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My Sister-in-Law is Going to be So Impressed with Me After This

My thanks go out to Dawg Sports reader Dylan, who sent me an e-mail with a link that reminded me that it was high time I reported the most recent poll results. (I'll get to the details of the link Dylan sent forthwith.)

Shortly following Ohio State's latest demolition at the hands of an S.E.C. team, I asked the question, "Who is the dumbest football coach ever to win a national championship?" It was not at all surprising that Les Miles finished with a comfortable plurality, pulling in 165 of the 454 votes cast (36.3%).

Former Clemson coach Danny Ford was solidly in second place with 102 votes (22.7%), followed by Miami's Larry Coker with 71 votes (15.6%). 56 of those casting ballots (12.3%) wondered whether titles won with Bill Curry's and Ron Zook's recruits counted and 33 of you gave the nod to Georgia Tech's Bobby Ross (7.3%). In last place were the 27 members of the electorate (6.0%) who asked, "Does Chan Gailey's title at Troy State count?"

With the season set to start only a little over a week from now, the new poll question is pertinent for those of the Georgia faithful who plan to follow the action at Foley Field: "How far will the Diamond Dogs go this baseball season?"

This brings me back to Dylan's e-mail, which reminded me to post the final tally from the poll. Dylan sent me the link to the following video:

I cannot say for certain whether the recent expression of pro-Trev sentiments here at Dawg Sports garnered the Sprint Exclusive Entertainment commentator's attention, but it's nice to be mentioned. Trev has always been a popular guy here in Bulldog Nation, owing largely to the fact that he used to be ESPN's lone pro-Georgia voice (well, that, and the fact that my sister-in-law, Jeannie, always thought he was hot), and now he's given us another reason to think well of him.

Thanks, Trev. Oh . . . and, as for that whole what-if-Mark-Richt-never-wins-a-national-title? thing, I think that line of speculation will remain valid all the way up until next January.

Go 'Dawgs!

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The Wrong Mindset
I think Trev's showing a flaw in college football coverage that this blog often points out.

Trev is overly obsessed with the national title.  Of course, his piece had to be about a national title because of the subject matter, but he implies faulty  reasoning in his argument.

Specifically, he points to national titles as the great discussion ender in college football.  As this blog constantly points out, college football is wonderful specifically because the national title has not traditionally been the single measure of achievement in the sport.

This is the one major sport where, at least historically, rivalries and individual matchups have retained primary importance in judging teams and programs.  

Do national titles make Ford, Ross, and Miles better coaches than Schembechler?  Of course not, at least they wouldn't have 10 years ago, back when fans of the sport could actually form their own opinions of teams, players, and coaches by judging what they observed with their own eyes.  Today, such subjective standards are roundly attacked by both bloggers and traditional media members alike.

We need objectivity, they say.  Over on SMQ's blog, commenters specifically attack the Mayor's praise of subjectivity.  What fun is a sport without subjectivity?  If formulas were all that were necessary to judge football teams, then I wouldn't love this sport so much--neither would a healthy majority of this blog's supporters.

Are objective measuring posts a good thing for college football?  Of course they are.  They serve to separate teams that we have no rational basis for evaluating against one another.  But are they the only criteria we should use.  No, and neither should they take precedence over our own eyes and ability to make judgments ourselves.

So I guess my answer to Trev is this.  Many UGA fans would be disappointed in Richt if he never won the national title.  Few fans of this blog would, however, because fans of this blog realize that capturing the golden egg is not per se evidence that a man is a great coach, and the absence of a title is not a disqualifier, either.

by TheUnknownStuntman on Feb 14, 2008 1:13 PM EST   0 recs

What about 2002?
I agree with the previous poster and disagree whole heartedly with Trev about the "National Championship" and having to be a smart coach to win one. In fact you have to be a LUCKY coach to win one. If we recall recent history a 13-1 Florida team wins the "National Championship" thanks in part to a lucky blocked kick against S.Carolina, LSU wins the 2003 "National Championship" at 13-1 also thanks in part to the fact that Billy Bennett had an unusually off day in Baton Rouge and missed 3 Field Goals that would have been the difference in the game. Look at the 12-2 2007 "National Champion" LSU Tigers, if just one of the 5 4th down conversions against Florida doesn't happen or the boneheaded "go for it at the end of the game" against Auburn is dropped, then LSU and Les "I would be Michigan's coach right now" Miles wouldn't have sniffed the National Championship game.

In contrast the 2002 Georgia Bulldawgs finish the year with an identical 13-1 record but end up 3rd thanks to some BAD luck (i.e. Terrence Edwards inexplicably dropping a wide open TD against Florida, and Ohio State and Miami going undefeated against lesser opponents.)

So to sum it all up, you DON'T have to be a smart coach to win a "National Championship" just a lucky one.

by RocketDawg on Feb 14, 2008 2:09 PM EST   0 recs

Exactly
RocketDawg, your sentiments are exactly why, although I may be hopeful of a national championship this season, I'm not hanging all my hopes on it.  We're going to be an awesome team, undoubtedly one of the best in the country.  But being the best doesn't counts for little if you don't get a lucky break or two along the way.

by Will on Feb 14, 2008 3:31 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Stupid for not wining a national title?
No, I would not say that missing a national title makes one stupid.  However if Richt coaches for 20 more years and racks up win after win but no national title he may well go down as the most disappointing coach of all time.  

Let's be honest, if Dooley does not have a national title, where would he rank?  How would UGA fans view him?  I seriously doubt there would be much clamoring for naming the field after him.

Heck I will go ahead and say let's save the stadium or field naming for Richt with the pace he is going.

by SkiDawg1985 on Feb 14, 2008 6:54 PM EST   0 recs

Exactly
I agree

by stewartbask on Feb 14, 2008 10:29 PM EST   0 recs

We all know...
...who the top 5 email link referrers of all time are:

Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan.

Spitting hot fiah!

by Kanu on Feb 14, 2008 11:35 PM EST   0 recs

nice
chappelle show reference

by loran smith on Feb 15, 2008 12:57 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Kyle...
I'm on the road as our baseball season begins tomorrow in Menlo, CA.  I just completed the Florida - Georgia comparison in Part II of my Sizing of the SEC series of articles.  Feel free to shred it and offer your own insights.  There are a couple of misplaced words I didn't catch last night in the wee hours of the morning in the office before we left so be nice.  

By the way...I agree with you on Mandel.  I like Stewey, but I can't for the life of me figure out why he chose Penn State for the Georgia comparison.  As an added insight, one of the things that has hurt Georgia in the National Championship B(C)S is that they haven't had an outright Heisman candidate to offer up to the BCS Gods (Television Networks, Bowl Officials and Super Conference Commissioners).  

I liken Georgia to Texas, with the major difference being Vince Young compared to Georgia's entire team.  Penn State was not a good comparison considering they have a sub .500 record in half of their BCS seasons.  Texas is the better comparison and maybe one reason why Georgia hasn't gotten that shiny star attention from the networks is the lack of a Heisman, which certainly plays into the BCS malarky.  Food for thought or do you disagree?

"A Regular Season Bracketed Playoff - Truly Making Every Game A Playoff in College Football While Upholding The Tradition of the Bowls!"

by bcsbusters on Feb 15, 2008 11:02 PM EST   0 recs

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