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Don't Bet On It: National Games of Interest

You know already what I think will happen in this weekend's S.E.C. action. Now it is time to highlight the games of note around the country.

Ere you forge ahead with reading what follows, though, you should be forewarned: I went 5-3 in last week's national picks, bringing my record for the season thus far to 20-10 in outings not involving Southeastern Conference squads. Now you know why I issue my weekly disclaimer: Don't Bet On It!

Behold . . . the secret behind my forecasting acumen.

Each of these games will be played on Saturday, September 29, unless otherwise indicated. Here are this week's picks:

U.N.L.V. at Nevada: Admittedly, this is stretching the definition of "national game of interest," but, as you know, I am a firm believer that Georgia Tech should not occupy the final spot on the Bulldogs' annual slate, so I take every opportunity to call attention to in-state rivalry showdowns that are played prior to late November, in order to illustrate that it can be done. Unfortunately, this requires me to take the time to read up on the Runnin' Rebels of the Mountain West and the Wolf Pack of the W.A.C. . . . or is it the other way around? In any case, U.N.L.V. just shut out Utah in what may or may not have been a conference game and Nevada comes into the contest fresh from an open date and looking to secure its first Division I-A victory of the season. Even though you can't spell "unloved" without U-N-L-V, I'm going to show the Rebels some affection by picking them to record the biggest little win in the world.

Viva Las Vegas.

Utah State at Utah: I didn't so much include this one to belabor the point about getting in-state rivalry games out of the way early, but rather to provide some small degree of solace to my SB Nation colleague JazzyUte, who wonders whether the season is over already now that the Utes are 1-3. As a show of support for JazzyUte, and in the hope that my placement of U.C.L.A. as the No. 25 team on my BlogPoll ballot will not prove to be completely misguided, I'm taking Utah to win over the third-best team in the Beehive State.

Southern Mississippi at Boise State (Thursday, September 27): Will this showdown finally reveal what the last mid-major Neanderthal said to the first non-B.C.S. Cro-Magnon? The Golden Eagles were one of the great small school success stories of the 1980s and '90s, bumping off the big boys often enough to make a name for themselves, but time seems occasionally to have passed U.S.M. by, as such flashier innovators as the Broncos have drawn national attention and big-money bowl bids while Jeff Bower has continued to toil with admirable consistency yet increasing obscurity. Here's the thing, though, and there's just no getting around it: Boise State's electrifying Fiesta Bowl win notwithstanding, the pride of the Gem State has gone 0-13 on the home fields of B.C.S. conference competitors since ascending to Division I-A status in 1996, but B.S.U. has been devastatingly effective at defending its turf against interlopers, posting a 51-1 record at home since 1999. This might be a different game in Hattiesburg, but Boise State will win this one in the city from which the university draws its name.

I like the Broncos and everything, but playing a college football game on a blue field is a travesty.

Maryland at Rutgers: Either the Scarlet Knights need to join the A.C.C. or the Terrapins need to join the Big East; I'm not sure which it is, but it needs to be one or the other. The outcome of this outing may be forecast even without recourse to such considerations as coaching, talent, and home field advantage; all one really needs to take into account is how each combatant spent last Saturday. Rutgers was idle. (Actually, that is an unfair characterization; the student-athletes from the State University of New Jersey simply did not play an intercollegiate football game last weekend; that, though, is no reason for me to accuse them of sloth. For all I know, they were quite productive during their bye week.) Maryland, by contrast, was busy losing in overtime a game in which the Terps held a 24-3 lead and were looking to tack on another touchdown with a little over 16 minutes remaining in regulation play when a 100-yard interception return for a touchdown sparked a Wake Forest comeback. The Terrapins simply have to be worn out, emotionally and physically, from that meltdown, so I like the Scarlet Knights to thump Maryland this weekend.

Clemson at Georgia Tech: A bit of linguistic precision is in order here. We often hear announcers say things like, "Traditionally, these two teams always play each other close." That simply isn't so. What they mean is that, historically, two teams have always played one another closely. The Tigers and the Yellow Jackets, for instance, historically have played several close contests; in fact, between 1996 and 2001, each of six straight series meetings was decided by exactly three points. Irrespective of these combatants' history of tight ballgames, though, Clemson did not break with anything that could be called a tradition by beating Georgia Tech by a 31-7 margin last season, nor will Tommy Bowden's Tigers be guilty of such a breach when they defeat the Yellow Jackets by a double-digit margin on Saturday.

If playing a college football game on a blue field is a travesty, then inviting Clemson to the Humanitarian Bowl and having the Tigers run out onto the blue field wearing all-purple uniforms would be an atrocity.

Michigan State at Wisconsin: I'm really looking forward to this game, because it will be in this contest that the bigger Big Ten parvenu is exposed, freeing me to drop the offending pretender from my BlogPoll ballot for good. The metronomic regularity of M.S.U. collapses following fast starts is both comforting for its consistency and disturbing for its disastrousness, as demonstrated in 1997 (5-0 start; 2-5 finish), 2000 (3-0 start; 2-6 finish), 2001 (3-1 start; 4-4 finish), 2002 (2-0 start; 2-8 finish), 2003 (7-1 start; 1-4 finish), 2005 (4-0 start; 1-6 finish), and 2006 (3-0 start; 1-8 finish). The Spartans are 4-0, which is all the portent you would ever need to sense impending doom. The hometown Badgers win as the Wiscy river don't run dry.

California at Oregon: 27 points. 27 points. 28 points. 31 points. 31 points. Those are some pretty impressive numbers from the Bears and the Ducks . . . until you stop to consider that those are the scores they're giving up on defense. Wait a minute, though; Oregon actually held Michigan to a touchdown on the road? Well, hey, now that actually counts for something! We know both teams can score. What we don't know is whether Cal can stop anybody who's anybody, or even slow them down much. That nagging uncertainty about the Berkeley Bears is made worse by the fact that the game is being played in Eugene: Jeff Tedford is 2-0 against the Ducks in Strawberry Canyon but 0-2 against them at Autzen Stadium. Last year's 45-24 manhandling of Oregon by Cal represented a deviation from the norm, as five of the previous six series meetings were decided by eight or fewer points. I expect another close contest, but I am less than impressed by Coach Tedford's suspect 17-11 record on the road. (Is it any wonder why I wouldn't hire Jeff Tedford to replace Mark "The Road Warrior" Richt?) The combination of home field advantage and superior defense will give the victory to the mighty Ducks.

If inviting Clemson to the Humanitarian Bowl and having the Tigers run out onto the blue field wearing all-purple uniforms would be an atrocity, then inviting Oregon to be Clemson's opponent and having the Ducks run out onto the blue field wearing either of these uniforms would be a catastrophe.

West Virginia at South Florida (Friday, September 28): U.S.F. began play in Division I-AA in 1997 before moving up in weight class in 2001. After a two-year stint spent in Conference USA, the Bulls joined Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, and West Virginia in the Big East in 2005. As the upstart member of a B.C.S. conference, South Florida has beaten every other team in the league at least once, capping off an eight-win regular season with a 24-19 victory over the Mountaineers in Morgantown last November. If I thought the Bulls had any meaningful home field advantage in Tampa, I'd probably pick U.S.F., but Rich Rodriguez's club has looked a lot like Frank Beamer's Virginia Tech squads in years past: methodical, relentless, and more effective than genuinely impressive. With revenge on their minds and their November 8 date with the Cardinals suddenly devalued, the Mountaineers will get the job done in the Sunshine State.

That, at least, is how it appears from my vantage point, although, naturally, your perspective may vary . . . and, honestly, you have at least as good an idea as I do of what will actually happen on the field of play. Let that be a lesson to you; since I have only the vaguest idea what in the world I'm talking about, anyway, you should proceed with extreme caution and pay close attention to my advice: Don't Bet On It!

Coming Soon: The National Game of Disinterest. . . .

Go 'Dawgs!

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Regarding the Oregon uniforms....
... I'm sure their mothers tell them something like "a good looking man looks good in any old thing" which is what my mother always told me.  

I like Cal to win this game.  Otherwise I agree with your picks.

by 34hawk on Sep 25, 2007 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes how about the Defense being played in the SEC?
I liked how you called out the ineptitude of the PAC-10 as California and Oregon (ASU as well) have given up points on defense, even though all three are a combined 12-0 this season.  Just in case you missed the glaring correlation:

S. Carolina gave up 31 points in their loss to LSU
Mississippi State gave up 45 in their loss to LSU

Washington State gave up 42 in their loss to Wisconsin and 47 in their loss to USC.

Kentucky gave up 34 and 29 in their two wins over Louisville and Arkansas.  

Alabama gave up 38 in their victory of Arkansas, while Auburn gave up 26 in their loss to South Florida.

Tennessee gave up 45 to CAL, 59 to Florida and 27 to Arkansas State?  Mississippi has given up 38 to Missouri, 31 to Vandy and 30 to Florida.

Arkansas has given up 26 to Troy, 41 to Alabama and 42 to Kentucky.

As a matter of fact, Georgia and Arizona State look to be fairly even as the Bulldogs have given up 69 total points all season, while the Sun Devils have given up 62 all season, with 30 coming in one game against Oregon State.  In comparison, Vandy - one of the better scoring defenses statistically in the SEC has given up 58 in only three games.

Kyle, I really enjoy your articles, but I didn't take you for one of those grandstanders who jump on that Bash The PAC bandwagon when the numbers are far more humiliating to the SEC than the PAC-10.  Next time maybe pull out a calculator and do some addition because the reality for me is I don't see much difference defensively between the conferences on both sides of the ball.  

This is exactly what I was talking about in an earlier article where I mentioned stereotypes as related to a certain civil rights movement of the past.  Although I understand the temptation, for how do you account for UCLA, Washington and Oregon State's performances against Utah, Ohio State and Cincinnati respectively, but then again how do you respond to the numbers I have just given for the SEC?

This is getting really, really old!

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by bcsbusters on Sep 26, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

BCSBusters - Correction!
South Carolina gave up 28 I believe in their loss to LSU - My mistake.
"A Regular Season Bracketed Playoff - Truly Making Every Game A Playoff in College Football While Upholding The Tradition of the Bowls!"

by bcsbusters on Sep 26, 2007 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

You did see the part where . . .
. . . I ranked five Pac-10 teams in the top 25 on my most recent BlogPoll ballot, right?

I have Cal and Oregon ranked sixth and eighth, respectively. Both teams rose one spot from last week, leapfrogging other undefeated teams on the strength of their solid resumes. U.C.L.A. also went from being unranked to reclaiming a spot in the top 25 after rebounding from the Bruins' loss to Utah.

My top 13 contains four Pac-10 teams and only three S.E.C. teams. When making the foregoing pick, I noted that the Ducks deserved credit for going on the road and holding a Michigan team that can score some points to a single touchdown.

In short, I don't believe I can fairly be accused of being "one of those grandstanders who jump on that Bash The PAC bandwagon," given the record I have built up over the last year and a half regarding improved interconference understanding. I deeply regret it if you see it otherwise.

by T Kyle King on Sep 27, 2007 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Postscript
Incidentally, the Georgia defense has given up more than 24 points just three times in the Bulldogs' last 41 games.

I'm going to go out on a limb and call that a respectable level of defensive prowess.

by T Kyle King on Sep 27, 2007 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

WHAT!!
A Rutgers reference and no Kristen Davis pic?!?!  Whats up with THAT?!

by Blogger who came in from the cold on Sep 27, 2007 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I understand your reaction Kyle...
Now do you understand mine.  Why is there always a reference to the perspective that the PAC-10 doesn't play any defense?  

The reality of it is that the score are the way they are because the offenses are high risk - high reward.  Yes, there are a number of great players who create big plays, but the offenses in this conference throw it about 30-50 times a game, and we all know that two of the three things that can happen on a passing play are bad.

UCLA gave up 44 to Utah because they turned it over 6 times, not because their defense sucks, and yet all the hype - FOR YEARS - is how the defenses out here can't play.  I can break it down for you if you'd like with over 15 seasons worth of scores, but I won't insult your intelligence because I know you are highly intelligent and a good football mind.

Let's try to pick a different angle than the one that has been over-used for decades in regards to the PAC-10, and one that isn't true in the majority of cases.  

"A Regular Season Bracketed Playoff - Truly Making Every Game A Playoff in College Football While Upholding The Tradition of the Bowls!"

by bcsbusters on Sep 27, 2007 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I never said it was true in the majority of cases
I don't "always" make such a reference; in fact, I think I made it once, when noting that Arizona State's surrendering of 30+ points did little to discredit the perception.

Please note that this was not an endorsement of the perception, but, even if it was, it was a single instance made in passing. I would like to think that a mere acknowledgment of the perception's existence falls far short of the sort of slight that could overcome such statements as this one, which I wrote nearly 14 months ago:

The truth, of course, is that the quality of S.E.C. defenses makes S.E.C. offenses look worse than they really are and the quality of Pac-10 offenses makes Pac-10 defenses look worse than they really are. This is why, for instance, last bowl season featured Pac-10 teams putting up points on good defenses (Southern California's 38 points against Texas in the Rose Bowl) and S.E.C. teams shutting down good offenses (Alabama holding Texas Tech in check in the Cotton Bowl). Where S.E.C. teams broke down defensively, they also performed well offensively (Georgia scoring 35 points in defeat in the Sugar Bowl).

I remember when my opinion of the Pac-10 began to change for the better. For a while in the late '90s and the early 21st century, it seemed as though West Coast teams had a nasty habit of losing non-conference road games. At the time, the Pac-10 commissioner defended his league by saying, in essence, we'll do better when we get some of these teams in our back yard.

I thought that was wishful thinking and hyperbole. It wasn't. Oregon lost at Wisconsin in 2000 . . . but the Ducks defeated the Badgers at home in 2001. Oregon State lost at Fresno State in 2001 . . . but the Beavers beat the Bulldogs at home in 2002. Stanford lost at North Carolina in 1997 and at Notre Dame in 1998 and 2000 . . . but the Cardinal beat the Tar Heels at home in 1998 and defeated the Fighting Irish at the Farm in 1999 and 2001.

Along the way, the Pac-10 started winning on the road, as well. Cal beat Oklahoma in Berkeley in 1997 . . . then the Bears beat the Sooners in Norman in 1998. U.C.L.A. lost at Ohio State in 1999 but beat the Buckeyes in Westwood in 2001 . . . and the Bruins also beat Alabama, both at home and away, in 2000 and 2001. U.S.C. lost at Notre Dame in 2001 but beat the Golden Domers in the Coliseum in 2002 . . . and the Trojans also beat Auburn, both at home and away, in 2002 and 2003.

Those results speak to the Pac-10's quality as a conference.


I have written respectfully of the Pac-10 and tried to critique the conferences fairly and honestly. There may be commentators, bloggers, and fans from other regions who fail to give the Pac-10 its due, but I am not one of them and, given the record I have created here at Dawg Sports, I feel absolutely no need to apologize for a perceived slight attributable not to insensitivity on the author's part, but to hypersensitivity on a reader's part.

by T Kyle King on Sep 27, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

No need to Apologize Kyle...
I'm a big boy, and just wanted to promote the fact that this sentiment is everywhere, and it comes flying out of the woodwork at the first instance when a PAC-10 team gives up big points, and yet nothing is said regarding the other conferences giving up the same...or worse...type of point spreads.

I have just decided to fight fire with fire, for I am sick and tired of the same old theme being replayed over and over and over.  It's kind of like the USC fight song.  It's boring and its slow and we wish it would really go!

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by bcsbusters on Sep 28, 2007 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Nonetheless Kyle...
You're stuff is really awesome and you convey your thoughts and points really, really, well!  It's always a pleasure to visit your site!
"A Regular Season Bracketed Playoff - Truly Making Every Game A Playoff in College Football While Upholding The Tradition of the Bowls!"

by bcsbusters on Sep 28, 2007 1:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Just read through last years articles...
And wanted you to know that the rivalries that used to exist between Auburn and Georgia Tech and Clemson and Georgia would likely occur if we utilized the BCSBuster Regular Season Bracketed playoff model for college football and we would get the bowl match-ups as well.  

We should do an article together drawing comparisons to this conference comparison argument which took place on your site last year as compared to how this would be solved via head-to-head competition within the BCSBusters Model.  Just a thought.

"A Regular Season Bracketed Playoff - Truly Making Every Game A Playoff in College Football While Upholding The Tradition of the Bowls!"

by bcsbusters on Sep 28, 2007 1:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, BCSBusters
It is fair to argue, as you do, that tired old attitudes color current perceptions long after they remain relevant (even assuming they ever were), in college football as elsewhere in life.

We Georgia fans like to give Georgia Tech fans a hard time about being shoehorned between a highway and a housing project, while Georgia Tech fans malign Georgia fans for supporting a school that hands out diplomas to anyone who drives through Athens with their windows down.

The problem is that these perceptions are nonsense. The housing project next to Georgia Tech was torn down to make room for the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta and Georgia's academics have been improving steadily for two decades, to the point where the University now has several nationally-ranked schools and colleges. Unfortunately, old habits die hard.

The same, admittedly, goes for the Pac-10. Southern California's defense has been a large part of its recent run of dominance. Despite one bad game, Arizona State (which I have ranked fairly high) is among the top 15 teams in the country in scoring defense. Oregon State ranks second only to L.S.U. as having statistically the best run defense in the country. Both the Beavers and the Sun Devils rank in the top 20 in total defense.

I will try to avoid the intellectual laziness of shopworn cliches when commenting on college football, including the chimera that the Pac-10 does not play defense. Nevertheless, I would ask that occasional passing mentions of what is (admittedly wrongly) a widespread perception be met with a proportional response; you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

Finally, follow up with me after the end of the regular season on that article idea. I'm intrigued by the possibility, but there's too much going on during the season to explore that option right now. Like last year's playoff debate with Sunday Morning Quarterback, though, it's something I'd like to save for the offseason.

by T Kyle King on Sep 28, 2007 7:40 AM EDT reply actions  

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