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College Football Special Teams Strategy: Show No Mercy to the Rugby-Style Punter

A football coach’s fear of Brandon Boykin is the beginning of his wisdom, and, as Dawg2011 has noted, opposing coaches have wised up by employing the increasingly infamous "rugby-style" punt, which allows the punter to roll out to one side rather than drop straight back, thereby buying time for his teammates to get downfield and cover the punt. The kick is not likely to go as far as a Drew Butler boomer would, but the return man is far less likely to gain any ground once he takes possession, and the coverage team has a good chance of being able to watch the ball roll to a stop before downing it.

Is there a way to negate the advantage the punting team gains by adopting this strategy? Actually, in a welcome instance of the NCAA rules committee making a salutary change to the guidelines governing the sport, there is:

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Let’s start with the basics:

Rule 2-15-1-a: Kicking the ball is intentionally striking the ball with the knee, lower leg or foot.
Rule 2-15-2: A punt is a kick by a player who drops the ball and kicks it before it strikes the ground.
Rule 2-15-7-a: A scrimmage kick made in or behind the neutral zone is a legal kick by Team A during a scrimmage down before team possession changes.
Rule 2-16-10-a: A scrimmage kick formation is a formation with at least one player seven yards or more behind the neutral zone, no player in position to receive a hand-to-hand snap from between the snapper’s legs, and it is obvious that a kick may be attempted.

Leaving aside the fact that the NCAA needs a lesson in why one should use the Oxford comma all the time, we’re now clear that a punt is a legal form of scrimmage kick made from a scrimmage kick formation. Now we turn to the fellow who will be doing the kicking:

Rule 2-26-3-a: The kicker is any player who punts, drop kicks or place kicks according to rule. He remains the kicker until he has had a reasonable time to regain his balance.
Rule 9-1-4-a: When it is obvious that a scrimmage kick will be made, no opponent shall run into or rough the kicker or the holder of a place kick.

A kicker---that includes a punter---is protected from being run into or roughed when it is obvious he will attempt a scrimmage kick---that includes a punt---as long as he’s the kicker, which he remains until he has had the opportunity to regain his balance. Note, though, the exception to the latter rule (with citations and obfuscatory punctuation omitted):

Rule 9-1-4-a-5-b: The kicker’s protection under this rule ends when he carries the ball outside the tackle box before kicking.

The tackle box is defined by Rule 2-34 as "the rectangular area enclosed by the neutral zone, the two lines parallel to the sidelines five yards from the snapper, and Team A’s end line." If he stays behind the line of scrimmage and within five yards on either side of the snapper, the punter is inside the tackle box; if he moves up into the neutral zone, or if he moves more than five yards in the direction of the sideline, he’s a ballcarrier.

In fact, the "Approved Ruling" on Rule 9-1-4 in the back of the NCAA Rulebook states unambiguously that "[t]here is no kicker until the ball is kicked." That makes sense, when you think about it; the rule isn’t designed to protect kickers just because, e.g., placekickers tend to be smaller than the average Division I-A college football player. Rather, the rule is there to protect holders, placekickers, and punters when they are in especially vulnerable positions. The rule is strictly a safety measure, not unlike the rule protecting a defenseless player. If a kicker (a term that includes punters) runs a fake, bobbles the snap and attempts to recover his own fumble, or even stands there with the ball and makes no move to put his foot into the pigskin, he’s not a kicker under the rule, so the receiving team is under no obligation to treat him as if he were wearing a green practice jersey.

That same Approved Ruling includes the following illustration:

Punter A22 is 15 yards behind the neutral zone when he catches the long snap, sprints to his right at an angle toward the line of scrimmage, and runs outside the tackle box. He then stops and punts the ball, and is immediately hit by a diving B89. RULING: Legal play, no foul by B89. A22 loses his roughing or running into protection by carrying the ball outside the tackle box.

The bottom line, then, is this: Our special teams players need to be acutely aware when lining up to receive a punt of the point that marks the 15th foot from the snapper to the sideline along the line of scrimmage. If the punter rolls out and crosses that point, he is, quite literally, not a punter under NCAA rules. He can and should be introduced to the landscaping with celerity, asperity, and severity. The rules of college football specifically and explicitly provide that there is an instant at which a rugby-style punter is a ballcarrier rather than a kicker; at that instant, he should be brought down, and brought down hard, so that opposing coaches will go back to punting properly when facing the Georgia Bulldogs’ return team.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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I agree. After blocking

two or three of these things, which would be quite easy given our speed, opponents would probably start punting correctly again.

UGA Class of 2013

by monty_python on Sep 29, 2011 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

this is one of the rules you point out to the ref prior to the game

to make sure they don’t throw a flag by mistake.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Sep 29, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Well, if it's Penn Wagers, let it slide

I’ve seen him talk [xxxx] to our punters on the ground, so I’d assume they could bust him up and everything would be OK. Then again, I keep waiting him to award our opponent a penalty FG for flopping.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Sep 29, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

CMR: Just so you know, when that punter leaves the tackle box, he is going to get killed in accordance with Rule 9-1-4-a-5-b

Ref: Yea, ok.

CMR: In fact, I printed a page from the rule book, here’s a copy.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by chuckdawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another idea...

do it in front of opposing coaches, so they know you’ll tee off on their punter. Maybe one panics, goes to a practiced less than normal regular punt, and you expoit a weakness.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Sep 29, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

And then

Boykin sets the record for most touchdowns scored on punt returns in a game.

UGA Class of 2013

by monty_python on Sep 29, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this even more.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by chuckdawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

But then again, a part of me...

the sadistic, evil part, really wants to see a punter get blasted.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Sep 29, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

See my comment below! )

I think we have to make an example of someone. And I feel a little bad for that someone, but we need the word to get out that this crap will result in disaster.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by chuckdawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree.

I look at it this way: Don Corleone only had to cut off one horse’s head.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 29, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which ever one

results in more points or a W works for me. The Win being more important.

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by monty_python on Sep 29, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

a, titles

b) height tags, please.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Sep 29, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, but, you know you want that stamp. I would mail order one right now.

Hell, I feel like going and getting that tattooed.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by chuckdawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for this, TKK

I’ve been wondering about the optimal return strategy given that they do use the rugby punt. I like the idea of putting two returners back (assuming it doesn’t open up a fake, lololololol) as a good start.

People are being really hard on Smith for mishandling or nearly mishandling these punts, but I imagine it is very difficult. They come in at that angle with a lot of lateral momentum, and the football can start doing all possible football-like things when it hits the ground somewhere in front of the return man. It can bounce straight up, it can tease around a bit, and it can suddenly shoot straight at the return man. It’s hard to know what to do, unless we just yield automatically and run far far away.

That ball that went through Smith’s wickets last week shot straight at him like a bad-hop grounder. It’s not easy to be a returner on that kind of kick. Which, again, is why opposing coaches are using it.

I think we need to practice something more aggressive, and run the risk of mishandling it perhaps. But I think if the returner is coached to have the attitude that he IS going to get the punt, no matter what it does, then at least his lack of indecision will help him handle whatever the ball does. Then you put two return guys back and whichever one is on the side of the kick streaks upfield right at it as its coming in, and tries to play it the way an outfielder charges in on a short-hop (sorry for all the baseball analogies, but it is similar, no?). When he gets the ball nice and clean, he’s moving full speed like he just caught a ball on a fly pattern.

We’re being too timid, because of the uncertainty of what these kicks do. I think the answer is to counter-intuitively attack the ball and tell the other team that if they want to give our excellent returners a chance to catch the ball only about 20-25 yards beyond the LOS at a full sprint, then more power to them.

by Xon on Sep 29, 2011 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Having done both and played both, catching a football on the ground is a whole lot easier than a hit baseball coming right at your feet.

The ball is moving about 60MPH slower for one. That being said, you are correct that the ball can bounce in an erratic fashion that makes it harder to field than in the air. Smith’s mistake was he didnt decide. You have to decide and commit. Plenty of returners can do it, and if Smith can’t, then he simply doesnt need to be back there. The ball was at least 10 yards in front of him, he had a chance to commit.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by chuckdawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we need to coach the players to

commit always on this. Not “make the call once you’re out there,” but rather “when you see the punter moving sideways you get ready to beeline right at the damn ball while it’s in the air. You aren’t deciding whether to catch it; you’re catching it. We know it’s a little tough, but we got your back. They aren’t going to do this too many times after you’ve caught a couple at full speed.”

by Xon on Sep 29, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can appreciate that

Part of working with young men versus the Pros is the coaches take the decisions away from the players sometimes.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by chuckdawg on Sep 29, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I am completely down with this..

….I have been having a heart attack with this since the Cocks were doing this to us in the the early 2000s (Lou Holtz?…. maybe is was Spurrier who first did it?)…KTMFD!

Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the Dawgs of war; - Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1

by Vietnam Dog on Sep 29, 2011 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I what turned out to be sort of like a production meeting over e-mail...

… Kyle used the term “pitch” when describing what the punter looked like he was about to do on a rugby punt.

Unfortunately, he omitted that little anecdote from the final story, which causes me to be completely off-topic when posting these pictures:

by vineyarddawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, vineyarddawg.

Yeah, I should’ve used that phrase: “If you can’t stand the hit, don’t roll out like you’re pitchin’.”

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 29, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I could have just sat on them and used them another time.

But hey, I still can use the bottom one when we play the Irish in the 2037 Ireland Bowl in Dublin.

by vineyarddawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I've ever, in my entire life...

… used the word “efficient” in any sentence describing a meeting with government officials (unless the words “not very” immediately preceded it).

by vineyarddawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

This seems so odd now as I am not that young anymore. but,

I have never been in a civilian business meeting. I have no idea what they are like.

The assumption is the civilian world wouldn’t waste as much time as we do.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by chuckdawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are very different....

….. in good and bad ways

Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the Dawgs of war; - Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1

by Vietnam Dog on Sep 29, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always found the person running the meeting

was the most important variable in efficiency, not so much the organization he works for.

Back off, man. I'm a scientist.

by Droz on Sep 30, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

At this point, and this is perhaps a tad unethical, I wouldnt mind a UGA PF (if called) for killing the punter every game.

As long as it was a punt early in the game. It’s complete BS that a 3 and Grantham can result in 4 guys standing around our punt returner.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by chuckdawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

+ 1

Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the Dawgs of war; - Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1

by Vietnam Dog on Sep 29, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a rugby player

I’ve always cringed when I hear announcers call this a “rugby style” punt. This is more like “running for your life because you weigh 200 pounds less than the people chasing you style” punt.

by elfcrash on Sep 29, 2011 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

And speaking of rugby moves...

… I’ve often wondered if a grubber is legal in college football.

Because it would add a fun dimension to games, I’m going to guess not.

by vineyarddawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alas not

Nor is a Gary Owen. Now THAT would make for some good football.

by elfcrash on Sep 29, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah??

Well… the jerk store called, and they’re running outta you!

/Costanza’ed

by vineyarddawg on Sep 29, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The above

just proved tankertoad right. haha

UGA Class of 2013

by monty_python on Sep 29, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I quite

understand that. Although “Monty” has been my nickname for ages.

UGA Class of 2013

by monty_python on Sep 29, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ALL YOUR PUNTER ARE BELONG TO US

Love this idea. Tackle the ball carrier. Simple.

by NCT on Sep 29, 2011 10:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I am convinced...

let the beatings begin!

Back off, man. I'm a scientist.

by Droz on Sep 30, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I love this.

I got into it on OBNUG with some Boise folks about this a few weeks ago. They were offended when I called it a “gimmick” (which it is, as they get offended at anything that suggests they aren’t the greatest football team in the history of football).

My contention with rugby kicks has alwasy been that you don’t just throw your hands up and surrender. We have two of the best punt returners in college football. There is no reason we should allow other teams to neutralize that advantage.

Go after the punter once they’ve made it obvious that they’re going to rugby punt. Don’t even worry about putting a return on, because the extra three seconds they effectively add to their hangtime is going to make return blocking a moot point. Have two or three of your defenders spy the personal protectors in the backfield to make sure they don’t take a direct snap and run right past your rushers. Ignore the eligible receivers and dare a punter to beat you with his arm until he proves to you that he can do it. And, as this eloquent post suggests, kill the ever-loving crap out of the punter if he steps foot outside of the tackle box.

Once you’ve blocked a punt or two, teams will go back to a normal kick. The risk is more than worth it, iFDho.

by FisheriesDawg on Sep 30, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

T.K.K. Poet:

“He can and should be introduced to the landscaping with celerity, asperity, and severity.”

by EdDawg on Sep 30, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, EdDawg.

Yeah, I was kind of proud of that one.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 1, 2011 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remind me how this works

Since the kicker is not a quarterback, there is no “late hit” penalty, right? I mean, once he’s outside the tackles? We can light into him at any point as long as it’s not from behind?

I’m taking the LSAT in about 11 hours, so my brain may simply be missing something.

by Xon on Sep 30, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

If he goes outside the tackle box he is a ball carrier, or basically like anyone else. He can be hit, and needs to be.

Essentially after a punt the punter becomes a potential tackler as well, so somebody needs to key on him and hit him every punt.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by chuckdawg on Sep 30, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

But let's please not get beaten by the fake punt pass ...

… oh good lord I can just see it now… the whole team trying to plant the punter and him dinking a little lobber over the onrushing onslaught to some fat linemen who then rumbles and tumbles his lard ass 83 yards for the score.

"Uvarum, Uvarum Fit, Uvarum.... double Fit..."
- Augustus "Gus" McCrae

by Munson's_Marbles on Sep 30, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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