... and I, for one, welcome our new Texan overlords.
Well, now it's all over but the crying softly in a corner whimpering that you got screwed and should sue everybody's pants off shouting. Texas A&M University has officially been accepted as the 13th member of the Southeastern Conference, and all the hullabaloo raised by Baylor and its other ne'er do wells in the Big XII-ish has been silenced. Long live the SEC. (ESS EEE CEE! chant goes here.)

So, goodbye to texas university. So long to the orange and the white. (And the Green and the White. And the Purple and the White. And the Red and the White. And the Orange and the White and the Black. And... well, you get the idea.)
We at Dawg Sports would like to warmly welcome Texas A&M to the SEC. Also (crossing fingers behind back), we totally promise that, as a conference, we won't treat you exactly like we treat Arkansas, because you're totally a lot more competitive than they are from a historical standpoint. Really.
Those who aren't well-versed in non-SEC history might be interested in how the Aggies stack up as far as tradition and success are concerned. Well, aTm has a great plethora of one and slightly more than a smidge of the other. Read on for your primer on our new SEC brethren. (And seriously, Aggies, welcome to the SEC! I, for one, am glad to have you.)
Texas A&M has been playing football almost as long as Georgia, fielding their first team in 1894. They have won one national championship during that time, in 1939 under coach Homer Norton. They won 17 Southwest Conference titles between 1917 and the league's dissolution in 1995, and have one Big XII Title to their name, beating Kansas State (during the 5 minutes the Wildcats were good) in the 1998 Big XII Championship Game.
A&M was also the penultimate coaching stop for Paul "Bear" Bryant, who is famous for saying he left College Station for Tuscaloosa in 1957 because "Mama called." The Bear was in the Lone Star State long enough, however, to make a documentary in the Texas hill country called "Junction Boys," which you might have seen on ESPN. One of the most well-known "survivors" of that Junction Boys documentary was Gene Stallings, who led Alabama to the 1992 national championship. So as a result, in the eyes of Aggie faithful, they're collectively responsible for about 7 of Alabama's national championships. So, if you need a reason to hate them when we meet them on the gridiron... just remember that all of Paul Finebaum's success can basically be traced back to Texas A&M.

The Bear with a couple of Junction Boys (ex post facto, obviously).(Via.)
On a more local note, Georgia has met the Texas Aggies (yes, that's what they call themselves) on the gridiron 5 times over the years, racking up a 2-3 overall record. The first meeting between the two schools was in the 1950 Presidential Cup, which was a bowl game held in 1950 with the U.S. Government's endorsement as basically an American Legion fundraiser. On that auspicious occasion, the agricultural engineers' offense proved too much for Wally Butts' defense, resulting in a 40-20 final score in favor of A&M.
The Aggies went on to claim the next two meetings in the series, which were a home-and-home arrangement in 1953 and 1954. (And which,coincidentally and fortunately for the Aggies, came during the nadir of Wally Butts' tenure in Athens.)
If you're like me, you've seen many replays from the fourth meeting between the Bulldogs and the Aggies, since that occasion was the first home game of the 1980 season. Texas A&M came into Athens prepared for the option stylings of Buck Belue and Carnie Norris, and got absolutely plowed by some new freshman running back Georgia had that year. Herschel Walker & Co. buried the Aggies 42-0 that day en route to the 1980 national championship, and gave rise to one of Larry Munson's classic calls.
Skip to 2:18 of this video to see Herschel's famous run against the Aggies.
And, of course, the most recent meeting between the schools was the 2009 Independence Bowl, won by the Dawgs by a score nobody remembers since REALLY GUYS IT'S THE INDEPENDENCE BOWL.
Lack of great success on the field aside, one of the greatest things about Texas A&M is their long set of traditions. They have so may traditions, in fact, that they have their own website to explain them, so I'll just link to that and post some explanatory pictures as a compliment. :-)
They also have a very unique fight song, the Aggie War Hymn. To be honest, the one thing I'm anticipating the most as a part of this deal is sitting in the stands at Kyle Field and feeling them sway during the last part of the Aggie War Hymn, as the crowd sways back and forth dramatically.
The Aggie War Hymn (with lyrics) is here:
And you can see the swaying in this video at the 1:22 mark:
Welcome to the SEC, Texas Aggies! We look forward to paying a visit to Kyle Field real soon!
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So...who's number 14?
That is the big question. I’m with most on here, this is a quality addition to the SEC. The 14th will be more challenging.
Success is never final. --Winston Churchill
I heard today that Mizzou turned the SEC down.
The real question is, “How big a hurry is Mike Slive in?” – I would not be surprised if we have 13 teams for 2012. I think they are committed to getting this right as much as they are worried about 14.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
So
How would that work? Would the west simply have one more team? What happens to our schedule (and the other teams’ schedules) next season?
I don’t see how 13 teams play. This reminds me of the B1G before Nebraska.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
by Jman781 on Sep 26, 2011 12:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Team Speed Kills took a swipe at trying a 13-game schedule a few weeks ago.
That article is here.
The short answer is that the West would not get a truly round-robin schedule with A&M in a 7-team SEC West. It would solve a lot of problems if you could just do away with divisions, but I don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation to set at this time. That leads to questions of how you choose conference championship opponents without divisions, etc… too complicated if you’re only going to need the schedule for one year, anyway.
by vineyarddawg on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
I’m glad, at least in this scenario, our schedule would stay the same.
But who knows?
I’m excited for the addition of aTm; let’s hope I’m just as excited with the eventual 14th team.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
by Jman781 on Sep 26, 2011 12:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks
I’m glad, at least in this scenario, our schedule would stay the same.
But who knows?
I’m excited for the addition of aTm; let’s hope I’m just as excited with the eventual 14th team.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
by Jman781 on Sep 26, 2011 12:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dang phone
Sorry sorry for the double post double post.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
by Jman781 on Sep 26, 2011 12:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It may not be pretty or ideal.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
I don't think any rumors are true at this point.
Missouri was clearly lining up to apply to SEC if the Big XII-ish folded, much like West Virginia has already applied in the wake of the Big East’s impending (maybe) collapse. Rumors were that the SEC wanted Missou in that instance, but even if that were true, the deal was clearly contingent for both parties on the Big XII-ish breaking up. Since that conference appears to be ready to make a 5-year commitment to stay together and add a member to bring them back to 10, Missou is off the table as an option from both sides.
I don’t think we’ll hear anything about a 14th member until after football season. If the SEC had a 14th member already lined up, it makes sense that it would wait to announce the expansion until both teams could be announced simultaneously, as they did in 1992 with South Carolina and Arkansas.
My personal 100% non-informed conjecture-type guess is that sometime between January 10 and August 29, 2012 (the offseason), the SEC will announce a 14th member that will join the conference in the 2013 season, and we’ll play an SEC schedule with 13 teams in 2012, with the 14-team schedule starting in 2013.
by vineyarddawg on Sep 26, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
My version was more concise. And I tend to agree with your conclusion.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Concision may be good...
… but it’s not always the best option!
(Nor realistic for me, who likes to explain every option too many times.)
by vineyarddawg on Sep 26, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd be very surprised if you don't have 13 teams for 2012
If A&M wasn’t so determined to get out of the B12 ASAP and damn the consequences, they’d stay another year; trying to straighten out schedules less than a year in advance will be messy.
It's not really that messy. It's not the end of the world. We will still have a championship game.
Would you rather get 14 just for the sake of 14, or get the right team if it means we wait a year?
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
I'd like to get a 32-team SEC just for the LULZ...
… and to see if the same people who made the B1G logo can make a S3C logo and throw enough b.s. behind it to make it stick.
by vineyarddawg on Sep 26, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, the SEC should get the best they can even if they have to wait for them
as any team less inclined to burn the bridges on their way out than A&M won’t be able to move for 2013, especially if they have games against SEC teams already scheduled (which is probably true of most schools you’d want) and they don’t want do an Oregon/Colorado non-conference game between two conference members. You’re the SEC; a few years with an awkward schedule isn’t going to hurt you enough to matter (the Big Ten got away with 11 members for 18 years, and that was problematic than 13).
I’m hoping you’ll invite WVU ASAP but that’s for selfish reasons; more of the Big East heading elsewhere should mean more votes for letting Pitt and SU head to the ACC ahead of the official 27-month deadline.
Georgia State
Its not your daddy’s commuter school.
Sacrificing goats, chugging Maker's Mark, and walking underneath The Arch.
by RedCrake on Sep 25, 2011 11:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
No, that's in Statesboro.
DawgSports/Falcaholic/Talkin' Chop
by blackertai on Sep 26, 2011 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
If you value your sanity
don’t go to I am the 12 man. It will make you hate the Aggie fans already. I’m just gonna hope that like a few other SB nation blogs, its the idiot fringe. If you need am example, look up their 2009 Independence Bowl review. Save your sanity, save yourselves.
by Mark Mandingo on Sep 26, 2011 8:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sorry, I'm not joining in with the warm welcome
The SEC doesn’t need a 13th (or 14th, or 16th) team. This conference was the best in the nation already; snapping up a 13th team just because it was there is a little like the Sultan of Brunei buying a 13th gold-plated Maybach just because he can.
I have a feeling we’ll be looking back on this move in five or six years wishing we’d stood pat and left the Aggies to work out their issues with UT and the Big 12 on their own.
by Doug Gillett on Sep 26, 2011 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nah...
Once we add Rutgers (NY market!), Georgetown (DC Market!), and the University of Cambridge (London Market!), you’ll be happy.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
And Jupiter.
Bear in mind that there is more evidence of college fandom amid the outer Jovian moons than there is in, say, New Jersey.
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by delicious.crab on Sep 26, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Jupiter sucks.
The moons of Saturn is where the action is.
Ever been to Zegema Beach?
by vineyarddawg on Sep 26, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Typical Georgia fan.
Saturn. Pff.
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by delicious.crab on Sep 29, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
You're probably right, Doug...
… in fact, deep down, that’s really what I think, too.
But a 13th gold-plated Maybach might be a fun toy to have. And have you ever tried to play Maybach polo without a baker’s dozen?? The numbers just don’t work.
by vineyarddawg on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
If they asked me (and the surely won't), we should skip this 13/14 team nonsense...
and skip straight to a 16 team, 4 division conference with. That would make 9 conference games for each team. This leaves us our two cupcakes and Tech to play, or we could drop the Tech annual game and make it more of an ever-so-often rivalry to vary up our OOC lineup.
I’m all for having as many of our games matter as possible. Then again, I’m not exactly the biggest traditionalist on this site.
Excuse my proofreading failure
and they surely won’t
*I have no idea what was going to go after 4 division conference with…
Lot of traditions
On that page.. Almost like they come up with names for everything that other schools do and want to act like they’re special. But hey, welcome to the family, A&M!
There is another "Aggie" tradition not to be overlooked...
…whenever ANYTHING is screwed-up here in Texas, you blame it on a Aggie. A poke at their engineering skill/expertise mainly, but something UT alums enjoy ad-nauseum.
For example, we can now claim our special teams coverage on trick plays “must be designed by an Aggie”. In time, you too will find this more satisfying than picking on the North Ave Trade School folks.
Run Lindsay Run!
gigitty gig'em
All riiiight!
We just crushed their face.
by thebrookssays on Sep 26, 2011 6:22 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Thanks for the "welcome" to the SEC
Most all Aggies, myself included, are very excited about joining your conference. You guys have great schools with great tradition and history and I look forward to watching the great match-ups next year….should be alot of fun. Y’all will love College Station, it’s a fun town on football weekends Gig’em.
A sincere welcome to the SEC
We are rather tounge and cheek in the room and no matter how you read our threads at the end of the day it can always be explained with “Aggie Math”
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