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SB Nation iPhone App: My Review
The launch of SB Nation's iPhone app has been announced hither and yon. The app itself can be downloaded here from iTunes free of charge. Now that I've had it for a few hours and played with it some, I offer my thoughts.
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I offer a few caveats first. (1) I have just enough technical knowledge to be dangerous. (2) I studied political science and French at UGA. Even if there were real "science" in "political science", I got very little of it, since my emphasis was on theory. I am much better prepared to discuss cities of God, social contracts, "thou shalt" dragons, and (perhaps especially) le meilleur des mondes possibles than anything I'd consider to be science. (3) I love user manuals. I read them cover to cover. I find it a great sadness that technological advances have resulted in a world where so many of the products we buy (or, in this case, download for free) are boxless and manualless. In this particular case, the app's use is self-explanatory enough that it does not matter, but still: I miss manuals.
With those warnings out of the way, on y va.
The app does an excellent job of exploiting iPhone features. It feels nice and native, and navigating with taps and swipes is intuitive.
Now, I recognize that all of y'all who have iPhones will have downloaded the app and played with it already, and those who don't have iPhones may not care. But technology is cool, and Kyle really needs to be convinced to get a smartphone.
Launching the app takes you to the Newsfeed.
You just scroll down the page to view headlines. For stories that have updates, you can scroll horizontally through the last several updates and navigate to each one. If it's a topic you find sufficiently interesting, you can mark the little "Follow" star to make it easier to go straight to that story line later, comme ça.
From here, you can get the latest updates from all over SB Nation on the stories that are of particular interest to you.
But the part that I suspect will be most useful to me is the Lineup.
Here you'll get a list of your favorite blogs and/or sports you compile from SB Nation's lists. I have two "Georgia Bulldogs" because one is for football, and the other for basketball. They need to work on that.
From there, navigation to the individual blogs or teams isn't very exciting, but reading and commenting is extremely simple and straightforward.
I already find myself navigating back and forth on my iPhone between the mobile site and the full site, depending on what it is I want to do or see. And I likely still will access the full site through Safari from time to time. But as this app's functionality grows, I suspect I'll do that less and less.
Basically, what we've got is a very handy and easy way to read and post comments. We've got a pretty nifty way to personalize what stories you want to follow and what blogs/teams you want to get to quickly. Honestly, that's enough to make this a useful app.
I would like to see a few more things, though. These really aren't complaints. I'm sure more features will come, but I reckon I might as well record my wish list here. These are relatively modest suggestions. I can think of several more things that would be much more ambitious.
- Arrangeable Lineup: Right now, we're stuck with alphabetical order. Fortunately, Dawg starts with D. But some people probably would like to order their Lineup according to the ones they visit the most and not the ones that come early in the alphabet.
- X comments; y new: This is a great feature in the desktop and mobile sites. Without clicking through to an entire story you've already read, you know at a glance if anyone has added to the discussion. So far with the iPhone app, you get only the total number of comments.
- Highlighted new comments: One thing you get from the desktop interface that isn't available on the mobile site or the iPhone app is something to let you know which comments are new. I've seen people clamoring for the same type of perpetual comment updating that we get on the desktop site, but I think that's asking for a little too much, and frankly, I don't want it on the app. That's an awful lot for my iPhone and me to keep up with when we're just trying to steal a quick glance at the latest. I would, however, like some kind of easy way to scroll down and find the new comments.
- Access to Fanposts and Fanshots: Ok. This is a complaint: you get only front-page blog stories on the app. For Fanposts and Fanshots, you still have to use the desktop or mobile sites. Surely that's easily fixed and will be remedied quickly.
All in all, solid product, lots of potential, and another way my phone can waste my time.
Technology is fun! Get you some!
Go 'Dawgs!
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Awesome!
We really appreciate the detailed review.
Arrangeable lineup is a cool idea and one we definitely need to implement. We got a few other ideas on how to make the lineup more useful, including the number of new stories since you last checked, etc.
The multiple ‘Georgia Bulldogs’ w/o football / basketball thing is weak. We gotta fix that ASAP.
We’ve heard a strong chorus of requests for mobile commenting that lives up to the experience we provide on the web. I’m glad that we’ve set such a high standard for commenting that folks demand it be replicated everywhere we go. So that one is exciting to tackle and we already have a few ideas on how to not only duplicate the features, but take them to the next level for mobile.
Finally, getting Fanposts and Fanshots into the app is a super high priority. It’s what sets our sites and communities apart from everybody else in a lot of ways. Can’t have that go missing.
Again, thanks for the time to write a Fanpost review. We love getting this type of feedback. It’s the whole reason we put out a v1.0 – to get something out there, get feedback, improve, evolve and then release early/often.
Would love to hear your ambitious ideas too! Keep them coming.
oh god is powerhorse even a term?
For anyone who doesn't know, Trei is the head of the SB Nation technical team.
If you enjoy any aspect of SB Nation technology and find it superior to that offered at other websites, thank Trei and his team. I’ve corresponded with Trei for years now, and I finally met him face to face in Las Vegas, and I can tell you without reservation that he and his crew are the best in the business.
As long as I’m commenting, and since NCT brought it up, I’m open to recommendations regarding a smartphone. Disclaimers: I’ve never used a cell phone to do anything other than make phone calls and (reluctantly) send text messages, and I’ll be using it primarily for SB Nation-related stuff, so focus your arguments upon those points.
Go 'Dawgs!
Kyle - I work with a lot of geeks and gadget hounds.
IPhones were the first, and have proven to be the most stable. Various Android models have died. Some of them work better. Iphones, IMO are easier to use (and even my anti Iphone folks agree with this) and are stable. However, some people just hate on Apple, and some people hate on AT&T (I hate on at&t). IPhones means using ITunes on your PC though – some people hate that.
The IPhone 5 comes out October. If Verizon offers it I am likely to switch over. I currently have a 3Gs.
BL: IPhones are generally more user friendly, stable, work well. They are generally more expensive and will tie you into AT&T or Verizon. Android would be the other top pick, but they have had problems (which are being fixed fast with newer models), and when I say problems I mean like die, dead, problems. But they are cheaper to buy, and you have more plans to work with. Most of the aircrew I work with have IPhones. The geekier guys that want more freedom to tweak their data have Androids.
Hope that helped.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Mrs. Vineyarddawg has an iPhone...
… and her Angry Birds and Chicktionary applications only come up correctly about 40% of the time.
(I mean… uh, that’s what she’s told me. Yeah, that’s the ticket.)
by vineyarddawg on Aug 26, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I have never once had an app fail to load correctly. I have had autocorrect say anal a lot though.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Thanks Kyle
It was a pleasure to meet you as well.
And FWIW, I’d consider getting an iPhone 5 when it comes out in October. Sounds like you may have the option of Sprint, Verizon or AT&T from the rumors I’ve read.
oh god is powerhorse even a term?
by Trei Brundrett on Aug 26, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
see Kyle - what he said.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
I'm relatively slow to adopt new technology.
I went from having a car-mounted cell phone to a handheld Sanyo (I think) with Sprint, complete with fancy LED screen. I kept that until I moved to Atlanta. I then moved up to a Razr in connection with switching from Sprint to Cingular (because I always prefer to “trade local” — yeah, I know, but still). I kept the Razr for a few years, changing only because I lost it in a parking lot on Juniper. Even through I’m a slow adopter, I do love me some gadgets, so I took the plunge and bought a first gen iPhone.
Getting my first iPhone was a life-changing event. I cannot tell you how happy I’ve been with the product. I kept that iPhone through successive models. About a year or so ago (I think — hard to remember), I dropped it, and the glass on the front cracked. It still worked fine (if not as attractively) and I still would have kept it, except someone accidentally spilled some Wild Turkey on it and killed it.
So I got my current iPhone 4.
I have had absolutely zero problems with either (other than my and mine having negligently destroyed the first one).
Everything about the iPhone is intuitive. Operation is a breeze. Those Apple people are amazing.
Having the Internet in my pocket, as I’ve mentioned before, is wonderful. Full Internet browsing in your hand is something you will love. I can instantly look up who was in that movie, UGA’s records against Mississippi State and Vandy in my lifetime, and of course get email from work (including reading attached documents) and anywhere else. By hooking into the server at work, I also can coordinate my work calendar and Outlook reminders.
Plus, I was late to the mp3 game. My iPhone also was my first iPod (or any such device). Yes, I loaded up tons of music, but I rarely listen to music on it. A whole new world of podcasts opened up to me: history, language, sports, music, philosophy, … My commute often is very much like listening to an engaging academic lecture, free of charge. Bliss.
Again, I’ve got zero complaints about the iPhone. It’s everything I hoped it would be and a lot more. A lot of what I love about it is not exclusive to the iPhone, of course. But for ease of use and reliability (not to mention design — it looks and feels so cool), I can’t imagine anything would be better and likely would not be as good.
"hooking into the server at work"
Just to be clear, that “hooking” requires no physical connection at all. The only time any physical connection is required is when the phone’s charging (I have no complaints with how long my charge lasts) and syncing through iTunes. I sync daily to keep up with podcasts (although podcast updates can be had without a physical connection).
For the record, . . .
. . . you had me at “someone accidentally spilled some Wild Turkey on it and killed it.”
What am I looking at, price-wise, for an iPhone 4 or, if I wait, an iPhone 5?
Go 'Dawgs!
dont get an IPhone 4, the 5 is supposed to have Skype ability (which the droids have). And a good camera.
The price is going to depend on the plan, and no one knows how the plans are going to work out yet. The 3Gs is still really good and they may get cheap as well, but the camera isnt good.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Thanks.
Two questions, though:
1. I’ve never priced these things (thought I thought about pricing a Droid, just so I could have the salesman walk me through my options, then tell him: “These aren’t the Droids I’m looking for”), so give me a ballpark. I have no idea what these things cost. Talk to me like you’re explaining basketball to podunkdawg.
2. You’ve known me for more than 15 years; answer honestly: What in our previous experience together leads you to believe I have Skype ability? (Seriously, do I need it? I had it on my old computer, but not on this one, and I don’t miss it.)
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 26, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Honestly Kyle
Depending on plans the phone may go from $200-$400. I would say $300-400 for the 5 is likely. Probably $60-$90 a month for the service. Since AT&T has had exclusive rights, there is no way to really know how the market will change with 3 carriers this fall.
And seriously, listen to NCT. I wake up, pick up my phone and I can check FB, emails, texts and this blog within 5 minutes. These are not phones, they are mini laptops. As your family grows older, yes,I think you will end up texting and skyping. the biggest reason I want a 5 is to get away from AT&T, to get a better camera, and to get 4g ability (faster).
I bluetooth my Iphone in my truck for complete hands free, I use it for my music at the gym, i dont have to take my laptop on trips because i got google and google maps right on my phone. You can set up your email accounts. The only issue I have is giving ATT $90 a month.
Droids are cheaper and they are about to take over in the market, but the IPhone is the easiest to use, period.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
I see what you did there....
and thaaaats a Lucasian auto-rec.

"Dorsey Hill thinks when you die you go to Vince Dooley's house. He can't wait." --The Incomparable Lewis Grizzard
Everything you said - I agree. Not knowing if you have new comments and/or highlighted comments is a problem. lack of fanposts and shots is another.
Very nice brief.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
"Required Elements"
I can’t believe that slipped by, or was everyone simply being polite? Mindful of the fact that this writeup would be mostly useless, I posted it primarily so I could add Required Elements to my Lineup and post a screenshot of it.
Either you people are weak, or it was taken seriously and you’re far too kind.
On second thought (and read)
Perhaps it is not unreasonable to think that someone who gratuitously writes “comme ça” in a post on a college sports blog might also include a site like Required Elements in his Lineup. NOT THAT THERE’S ANYTHING WRONG WITH ANY OF IT
I thought Required Elements was a technical thing...
… and I was wondering why an app required you to have a folder named “Required Elements.” I had no idea that was also the name of the SBNation Figure Skating blog.
I can rib you ex post facto, if you’d like.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 26, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I actively, publicly, and angrily call for the firing of women's gymnastics coaches.
I judge no one on his sports preferences.
Except Notre Dame hockey fans, of course.
Go 'Dawgs!
Yeah, Notre Dame hockey sucks almost as much as Georgia State football.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that…
by vineyarddawg on Aug 26, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions

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