Tuesday Night Dawg Bites: Men's Tennis, David Pollack, and Nike Pro Combat Uniforms Top the Day's Georgia Bulldogs Notes
After last weekend, I am worn out but nearly caught up, though the process of getting up to speed has caused a few corners to be cut, necessitating that I take the Inigo Montoya I-will-explain-no-there-is-no-time-I-will-sum-up approach. Please keep a firm grip on the handrail at all times as we rush through the rundown of recent minutiae of note:
- Are you still finding it hard to wrap your head around the idea of me in Las Vegas? If so, here is proof that I was there: Jim Bankoff snapped a photograph of breakfast at the SB Nation blogger conference, and I am visible on the left side of the open doorway, wearing a red shirt and looking toward the left edge of the picture. Yeah, J-Bank has the photographic skills of Abraham Zapruder, but, trust me, that’s me.
- All right, all right, all right; Ray Drew sprained his shoulder in a scooter accident, Kent Turene failed to make it through the NCAA clearing house, and both Isaiah Crowell and Richard Samuel missed practice due to injury. Depressive Kyle is back on duty, or he will be when he awakes. Right now, he’s sleeping in due to jet lag.
- My thanks go out to Auburn fan Mike Tarleton for alerting me to the fact that unused football tickets may be donated for the benefit of military personnel who want to see a Georgia game. Anyone interested in supporting this worthy cause is encouraged to go here.
- This piece is a couple of days old, but C&F does an exceptionally good job of stating the case for adding Texas A&M to the SEC, so it remains worthy of a link.
- Before you get too fired up for football season, take a moment to check out the Georgia men’s tennis team’s 2011-’12 schedule, which recently was released. The six-time NCAA champion Bulldogs, who will play host to the national title tourney in Athens next May after falling in the semifinals to Southern California in the Golden State last year, are slated to face at least a dozen squads who made the 2011 postseason field.
The Red and Black will begin the year with eight tournaments, commencing with the Atlanta Athletic Club Collegiate Invitational against Boise State on September 2-3 before the Southern Intercollegiate Championships come to the Classic City on September 23-26. Dual match play gets underway against Clemson at the Dan Magill Tennis Complex on January 21, while the Bulldogs’ SEC schedule includes away matches at South Carolina on March 2, at Florida on March 4, at LSU on March 25, at Alabama on April 6, at Auburn on April 8, and at Tennessee on April 14. Somewhere in Atlanta, NCT just exclaimed aloud, "Goat Roast road trip!" - Is this a good time to hear Vince Dooley talking about Herschel Walker? Hey, it’s always a good time to hear Vince Dooley talking about Herschel Walker! Keith Dunnavant, by the way, may be posting other interviews of interest here, as well; if he does, don’t flag him, because he was gracious enough to contact me asking permission before posting links here, so he is no spammer. While you’re in a listening frame of mind, tune in to "The Dawg-Gone Podcast" to hear Kit Kitchens with Gentry Estes, Verron Haynes, and me.
- There was a Herschel reference, so we might as well follow it up with a mention of the Bulldogs’ other three-time All-American, as David Pollack will be co-hosting an ESPNU college football show with Jesse Palmer. Your reaction to this news will tell you a lot about whether your fandom is premised more on your affinity for Georgia or your disdain for Florida.
- Newnan defensive back Tray Matthews committed to Georgia for the class of 2013, opting for the Red and Black over 17 other suitors, including Alabama. Apparently, recruits aren’t overly worried about all the "hot seat" chatter surrounding Mark Richt; hopefully, that chatter will be quieted considerably after the ‘Dawgs face South Carolina with No. 1-ranked running back Keith Marshall in the stands.
- I offer no guarantees or warranties, express or implied, as to the validity of this picture, but a reader forwarded it to me with an indication that he found it in the Facebook album of a Georgia player. I have not verified this independently, and, even if I had, it would not prove that this was, in fact, a rendering of the Nike Pro Combat uniforms the Bulldogs will wear in the Dome, but, with those copious caveats attached, here it is:

This variation on the familiar Nike theme is not novel, but, since this purportedly came from a player’s Facebook page, it is the first time I have heard of this design being linked to anyone in Butts-Mehre Heritage Hall, however tenuously and without independent verification. Once again, the usual caveats all apply, and, frankly, I hope this isn’t what the Bulldogs will be wearing on September 3. If the Classic City Canines have to vary their look, they should do something historical like wear silver helmets. Show me Georgia uniform that could be transformed into a South Carolina uniform merely by swapping out helmet logos, and I’ll show you a Georgia uniform the Bulldogs should never wear.
That ought to hold you ‘til tomorrow, at least. On the more than merely minimal chance that I missed something of significance, though, I should open up the floor for discussion of anything I might have missed, or for comments concerning the stuff I caught. Have at it, everyone.
Go ‘Dawgs!
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I think you can scrap the idea of that picture being legitimate.
It has been making the rounds on the interwebz for months. It was specifically addressed by sicemdawgs.com here back in July.
Who know if it will be similar… but I don’t think that’s the actual uni. Either way, we’ll know on Saturday! The uniform is supposed to be unveiled at picture day.
well, we do know one thing
the real thing will have two-tone numbers. except it’ll use a fade effect instead of that clear demarcation nonsense.
Nike only has one trick
Heel for school, Vol for life!
Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!
by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 16, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's some more on the origin of that photo:
I am proud to be a Kennesaw State Fighting Owl. -- Vince Dooley
I don't think its legit
But that helmet is unacceptably Auburny.
"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone
by RedCrake on Aug 16, 2011 11:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Whatever the uniforms are - they have a much great chance of epic failure than success.
insertfavoriteepicfailure.jpg
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Of course*.
* – Except when such caveats are not necessary**.
** – Even then, however, it’s helpful to make sure your hindquarters are covered.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
One of the articles discussing this
Said that the Georgia team is required by the contract with Boise State and the Kick Off Classic to wear red jerseys. I think that picture, then, is an option that Nike was showing people to get them hyped up. We all know how much Richt said it was the players asking about it that caused us to break out the black jerseys in 2007. Maybe this was just Nike trying to sell this to the players in order to get them to pressure Richt.
DawgSports/Falcaholic/Talkin' Chop
by blackertai on Aug 17, 2011 2:09 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hmm that is an interesting point...
… And it’s the first time I’ve heard anyone make that point as far as the uni’s go.
I think for variation, a silver metallic helmet look, red jersey, and silver britches would look pretty awesome, at least it is in my head.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Aug 17, 2011 2:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i read that too
But its probably just a procedural thing establishing who is home/away. Since Boise is wearing the pro combats too, I’m sure it can be easily amended if there were uni changes. Especially with Nike involved. And I don’t see any reason why the peach bowl folks would hold it back.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 2:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Has the coaching staff considered
employing a more mobile philosophy and going with the run and scoot?
"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav
by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 17, 2011 5:12 AM EDT reply actions
A player's Facebook album?
Furthermore, the mention by Richt of “death threats” regarding how the importance of secrecy of the uniform design was impressed upon the players, however in jest, make it difficult to believe that a player would make such a public and easily traceable disclosure.
I haven’t commented much, if at all, on the potential design, but I could go for a silver helmet for a truly retro nod. I think Nike would be missing a great opportunity if they deviated from the silver britches (which, when all is said and done, might by itself be a sufficient homage to tradition to make up for almost any Oregonesque atrocity). Mindful of the houndstooth pattern incorporated into Bama’s iteration, I’ve tried to envision a way to get the Hedges acknowledged, but I just can’t see that happening. A paw print would prompt me to dust off my torch and pitchfork. The Arch? ’Twould please me, but in light of the “G”, that may be logo overload.
by NCT on Aug 17, 2011 8:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, all right, I dropped the ball on that one.
I was trying to deal with multiple links, and suchlike, e-mailed to me over the course of several internet-free days, and I didn’t exercise my editorial judgment adequately. That’s on me. My bad. Mea culpa. Sorry, all.
Go 'Dawgs!
No worries.
I hadn’t see that particular design, so it was an appropriate topIc for discussion. Also, please forgive my subject-verb disagreement above. Mobile posting make some things difficult.
by NCT on Aug 17, 2011 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The most substantiated rumor I've been hearing...
…here in Athens, is a metallic silver helmet with a central red stripe, red facemask, blood red jersey and pants.
I am NOT referring to the other fake picture floating out there that looks hideous… I’ve just heard the above and that there’s “A LOT of blood red” and that, although not particularly traditional, that “they look sick and the fans will love them.”
I think there will be many of us that will cringe no matter what at a uniform change, but if it hypes up the players and it’s obviously not fake juice, I have no problem with it.
by HerschelBlogger on Aug 17, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
As NCT indicated above . . .
the silver helmets would be an interesting throwback. A more astute scholar could probably give us the exact years, but I believe the Bulldogs wore silver helmets for a time in the 1950’s and 60’s.
Truthfully, I don’t care what they wear as long as the equipment managers are left wondering how they’re going to get all the Bronco blood off of them.
I only did a quick search
but the helmet project is pretty good.
http://www.nationalchamps.net/Helmet_Project/
But I think they wore silver before then too. But obviously photo’s were b&w. Here’s a couple of confusing illustrations with Frank Sinkwich.
http://firstngoal.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/heisman-highlight-frank-sinkwich/
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/retired-jerseys.html
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody tell Arthur Blank.
I want a red field.
by first and thom on Aug 17, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Why are you making me post it again?

THE GOGGLES THEY DO NOTHING.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
We should definitely do that for the Chick-Fil-A Kick Off just to show Boise what it's like
The 984 Has Spoken!
I'd just as rather my eyes not be bleeding by the end of the first quarter, thanks.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
come on - all red uniforms on a red field. It would be great to hear them say "unfair".
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
I could not more completely agree with you, The984.
It’d be great to give them a taste of their own medicine, and to let them know how played out that Division I-AA gimmick is. The Broncos are a big-time team with a big-time coach, but Boise State is being held back by its academics, non-football athletics, small stadium, and silly field. There is where BSU needs to focus on improving if it ever hopes to receive the major conference invite its football team has made out a compelling case for between the white lines . . . assuming, of course, that the lines on their blue field are white.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 17, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, but just let me repeat one more time...
… BLEEDING EYES.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 18, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone know
or has it been mentioned if UGA had any input at all into the design of the Nike design? And I hate the white helmets. Auburn has ’em. Tech used to. Florida tried it a few years ago. It looks like shit.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
UGA input
I understand that the UGAA had to approve the design.
by NCT on Aug 17, 2011 9:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
As long as
the approval committee didn’t employ the dude who approved our lame video promotion from the last few years, I’m cool.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
Nike says "wish granted"...
… then your team shows up on gameday in a grey helmet with an italicized “G” on one side only.
/Nike sucks
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Nike
Why are many anti-Nike?
Just curious.
It’s simply a matter of taste. Personally, I dislike all “modern” jerseys and love the retro look that schools like UGA, Bama, Michigan, etc. traditionally use—simple and classic.
That said, many people, including some of my friends, actually prefer the modern looks of Texas Tech, VT, Oregon, etc. It’s a matter of taste. There’s no way to prove your preference is better than someone else’s.
I quite like Nike, despite some of the odd looking designs.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
That's because you're a communist and a terrible, terrible person.
(I’m kidding).
I cling to the notion that college football is an amatuer sport with strong ties to its traditions. Traditional uniforms are part of that tradition, and unless it is necessary to change the uniforms, I submit that it is necessary not to change them.
Nike is out to make a buck. Making bucks is good. We need more of that, not less. But I wish that they would make a better-functioning classic-looking uniform instead of a classic-functioning “better”-looking one.
by first and thom on Aug 17, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
No.
As I understand it, all the appeal of the pro-combat uniforms is the look. There’s no difference in what the uniform does. So it’s just “better” looking without actually doing anything new. As a result, if you don’t like the new look, you won’t like the new unis.
by first and thom on Aug 17, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong...
The pro-combat uniforms come with lazers in the shoulder pads, visors that allow players to see in the dark, and gloves that can emit an electric shock.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
In that case...
… I offer my tentative approval. If, however, they come with an automatic Bobo bad-call translater built into the helmet, sign us up (but only if it works against ranked teams).
by first and thom on Aug 17, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess Nike thinks they are better?
I know it really does not matter but Nike claims that they are better functioning. That’s what i was referring to. I grabbed this from the announcement from Nike…
“Built to be lighter, faster, stronger and tougher than anything ever worn on the football turf at any level, the 2011 Nike Pro Combat uniforms are truly a look into the future of gameday gear and apparel. And just wait till you see how they look”
I just want Jarvis Jones to introduce Mr. Moore to the brand new Field-turf at the dome….
Fair enough...
It depends on the school. For UGA, sure, but I tend to like (some of) Oregon’s new uniforms more than their “classic” uniforms.
Classic Oregon:

That’s hideous. They don’t have much to work with.
I guess I don’t understand why Nike “sucks”. That’s all.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
by Jman781 on Aug 17, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Classic and Oregon don't exactly go together.
The University of Georgia’s uniforms are classic. Alabama’s are classic, so are Notre Dame’s, Miss. St’s, and even Auburn’s. We don’t need gimmicks: we have a uniform that speaks for itself. Oregon, bless its collective heart, needs some help, so I don’t mind Oregon being going crazy in the uniform department. College football is big enough to accommodate some outliers. But I don’t want UGA to be Oregon.
by first and thom on Aug 17, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Just to clarify...
You’re against the pro-combat uniforms, not Nike uniforms in general, right?
Nike makes the uniforms for UGA, Alabama, LSU, Texas, USC, etc.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
At the risk of presuming to speak for others ...
I suspect the expressed disdain for Nike is a generalized way of expressing disdain for that feature of Nike representing radical, non-traditional changes to tradition and not for Nike products or the Nike corporation as a whole.
Once again...
… NCT wins at reading between the lines.
You sir, are awarded 100 cocktails and 1 free internet.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
NCT should get a job where people hire him to advocate on their behalf
Does anyone know of such a profession? I think he’d be good at it.
by first and thom on Aug 17, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's right.
Again, I have no problem with Nike as a manufacturer of athletic apparel. But I think the pro-combat stuff sucks.
by first and thom on Aug 17, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't discount the possibility...
… that the uniforms Nike will have designed for Georgia to wear in the Dome will look cool. We might actually like their look. (Note that I said might.) They just won’t be Georgia’s uniform.
Georgia has a traditional uniform, however, that is part of their brand. It’s how we look. When you see a Georgia team on the field (at home, at least), you expect them to be wearing a red jersey, red helmet, and silver britches. It looks awesome, and it’s part of the brand that UGA has built. Wearing something different during the 6 annual opportunities you get to wear the home uniform detracts from that brand identity.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
uniforms are part of branding. all this “let’s change it up for the sake of changing it up” nonsense misses that fundamental point
Heel for school, Vol for life!
Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!
by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 17, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What is tradition?
When does it start?
For example, if the Bulldogs switched to the black jerseys and continued to wear them for 60 years, wouldn’t they be considered our “traditional” jerseys?
When did we first start wearing the red jerseys with the red helmet? Without looking (for I’m busy and too lazy), I doubt we’ve work red jerseys with red helmets and silver britches since the beginning of time.
Thus, at some point some crazy manufacturer decided to change things up. Why can’t Nike (or any other company) do the same?
It all goes back to a preference. You prefer that UGA only wear red jerseys with a red helmet; I like the black jerseys and wish we would wear them more. Both are acceptable opinions and nothing more.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
Let me caveat the above...
I am generally against the pro-combat uniforms; however, some have looked pretty darn cool.
I realize simply wearing a black jersey does not equate to the potentially outrageous uniform Nike may come up with for UGA (see: tOSU’s uniforms…yuck), but if it looks cool, why not? It’s one game.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
oof...
caveat isn’t a verb (I don’t believe). Oh well.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
Dooley brought the red helmet with the G
But he got rid of the silver britches till ‘80. Despite what people say, there’s at least one time in the Dooley era (70s i think) that we wore black jerseys, I have it on a Georgia’s greatest moments video. Before then we wore silver britches and red jerseys. The helmets, I’m not sure of. But there’s a couple of links posted above that show different things. But I think we wore silver helmets from at least ‘42 till Dooley’s arrival. We wore red pants numerous times and black pants a hand full of times. Tradition is about what you remember wearing when you were a winner. In the Richt era we’re 2-1 in black jersey’s but because of the Bama game, people seem to hate em now (and maybe people hated them in ’07, but mostly they were a hit.)
So yes. I agree with your statement.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
and I left out
white pants, black helmet stripes, black independence facemasks, red G’s on silver helmets…..and the unspeakable grambling uniform combo and the ponzi scheme era 3D numbers.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Mark Mandingo is correct.
I believe Wally Butts introduced the silver britches when he became head coach in 1939, and the Bulldogs wore them through 1963. The silver helmets covered approximately the same time period, though I’m not sure about the year the silver helmets were introduced.
In 1964, Vince Dooley redesigned the Georgia uniform, introducing the red helmets with the oval “G” logo and the white stripe down the center. With the exception of the Jim Donnan era (which featured a black stripe inside the white stripe), the ‘Dawgs have worn them ever since (with such notable exceptions as the 2009 Florida game, though, offhand, I can recall no other time in my lifetime that Georgia didn’t wear the red helmet).
Coach Dooley replaced the silver britches with white pants in 1964. Georgia wore them consistently until the 1970s, when red britches began being used for significant road games. This practice of wearing red pants continued periodically (though less frequently) through (I believe) the late 1980s. The silver britches were reintroduced as a weekly staple of the Georgia uniform in the Bulldogs’ home opener against Texas A&M in 1980, following the road opener against Tennessee (in which Georgia wore red britches). The silver britches have been worn consistently ever since, with the exception of the occasional road games in red pants mentioned above and such departures as the bowl game against Wisconsin at the end of the 1997 season (black), the 1998 Florida game (black), the 1999 LSU game (white), and the 2009 Florida game (black).
Offhand, I don’t know when Georgia began wearing red jerseys, but I’d imagine some variation of the red jersey dates back very nearly to the very beginning, since our teams were the Red and Black long before they were the Bulldogs.
I cannot comment authoritatively on its use in other contexts, but “caveat” is a verb in Georgia probate law; one caveats to a will when one objects to the will’s acceptance by the Probate Court as the last will and testament of a deceased person.
Go 'Dawgs!
I have seen a picture of Frank Sinkwich in a black jersey...
… but that is the only documented evidence I have seen of its prior existence. And Mark Mandingo, I guarantee you that I have whatever Georgia video to which you are referring, so if you’ll point me to the evidence in question, I will be glad to go back and review it.
The red jerseys at least date back to the 1960’s, which is when color TV was really established in the United States… and that’s really what matters in establishing the brand/tradition.
During the black & white TV era, wider audiences wouldn’t really have known if a jersey was red or black… it would have been a dark shade or a “slightly less dark” shade on TV. Since the advent of color, however, in our homes, Georgia home jerseys have been red. That should be the benchmark, in my opinion.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
We can both agree...
No matter what we wear, we won’t look as ugly as this:

"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
That's a given...
… but only because we are guaranteed not to have any orange in our uniform. (I think. Those Nike Pro Combat guys can be sneaky.)
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Compared to the Florida uniforms...
This is a masterpiece!
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
Dude, that is the most perfect picture of that uniform EVER.
Perfectly captures the emotion all of us feel when we see it.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 18, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
He's sad
because they beat Southern, but lost the Battle of the Bands.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 18, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
true lol, well done Mandingo
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Aug 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I would appreciate it
It’s VHS. It’s just called Georgia’s Greatest, narrated by Bill Hartman the younger. The cover is black and looks to have the Uga statue from the mausoleums on the cover. Its in the Glynn Harrison segment. They only show it briefly.
Some people that see it say its just dark red and I suppose that’s possible. But if it is, it’s almost maroon. It’s not a film problem because the helmet still looks bright red. I’ve also considered that it might have been caused by the jerseys being wet but historical records indicate that this day against Ga Tech (11-27-75) there was about .08 of an inch of rain reported in ATL. So I suppose it’s possible that a quick shower dumped enough rain to make the jerseys soaked, but I’m skeptical.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome.
A CSI show has broken out in the comment thread!
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
this has been my pet conspiracy for 15 years
/notsayingitsblackjerseysbutitsblackjerseys.jpg.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll have to look up that video...
… but in the interim, I have found these two promotional pictures of Frank Sinkwich from the 1942 season:


The tone of the black and white picture confirms that Sinkwich is wearing a black jersey with 1 red and 2 white stripes on each arm.
There are also these pictures from the ’42 season, however:


In these pictures, the Georgia teams appear to be wearing a solid-tone jersey that is not black, leading me to assume that it was red/crimson in color.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
And upon re-examining my google-fu...
… all of those pictures appear to have come from About them Dawgs! Blawg.
In his post on the jersey topic, he author noted that after the first Auburn blackout:
Dan Magill declared the black jerseys were a UGA football first while Charley Trippi told me prior to the 2008 Alabama game that the Dogs in his day never wore any colored top except red and white.
I believe Charley Trippi actually played on Sinkwich’s 1942 team, which contradicts his account, but nevertheless, if Dan Magill says it didn’t previously happen, it’s likely that no black jerseys were worn in 1975.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
For what it's worth, . . .
. . . I pulled Clean Old-Fashioned Hate off the shelf and read the chapter on the 1975 game. Bill Cromartie made no mention of Georgia wearing unusual jerseys, and the black-and-white photograph of the game included in the chapter showed that the jerseys appeared to be the same shade of dark as the Bulldogs’ helmets.
Go 'Dawgs!
Seems that Kyle has solved the problem!
Thanks for the help!
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i'll take your word for it
But they look almost black in the film. Rain is the only thing I can figure. If you have the tape you should still check it out. As for the trippi/sinkwich thing, I don’t know, I’ve seen a lot of illustrations other than yours that have em in black too. But then again, there’s a link I posted somewhere else in the thread where they color his helmet red. I had never seen that before. Maybe the inkers just guess.
It’s hard to go against Dan Magill, but for what its worth he didn’t become SID until the late 40s. But he was obviously around before then. As for Trippi, I guess he was there so he would know. But then again, I’ve seen people not remember things from 10 years ago much less 70. I once watched a Penn state player say that they never had anything on the helmet other than a stripe while they’re showing footage of him playing with numbers on his helmet.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 10:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I think Trippi just didn't remember 1942 for some reason.
As you say, memories can be faulty, and we have photographic evidence of Georgia’s best player wearing a black jersey in 1942… so that seems to be pretty strong evidence against Trippi’s statement.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 18, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I was a UGA freshman in 1975.
We did not wear black jerseys when we played GT. The game was on TV (a night game) and I remember it vividly. As a GA football nut and as someone who has a keen interest in athletic uniforms, I can guarantee you I would have noticed and I would have remembered if we were wearing black jerseys.
As a matter of fact, . . .
. . . it was on Thanksgiving night!
Maybe it was the Grant Field lighting that made the jerseys look black on the video?
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 17, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know
It’s hard because its vhs, but I looked at it zapruder film style, and it just proves that you guys are right. At the very point of the edit (its like a 5 second clip of a td run) you can see some lineman on the ground for a few frames and they’re clearly in red. But for whatever reason, Harrison and a few other players are wearing jerseys that are about ten shades darker in shade. I don’t know what that reason is. Water? Georgia State players? Possibly aliens? Maybe.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 11:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
did you say aliens?

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Not saying it's Georgia State players.
But it’s Georgia State players.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 17, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
well i can't really argue with that.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 10:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't doubt what you're saying, though, . . .
. . . Mark. That’s why I asked whether the lighting for a televised night game—-not a common occurrence in 1975, the way it is today—-might’ve caused the jerseys to look unusually dark. There has to be some explanation for the way it looks; I just don’t know what it is.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 17, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
screw it
I’m calling em black till my dying day. Facts and truth be damned.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 11:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
It's a . . .
. . . fact!
(Because you said it is. No, it works that way. Really; I’ve seen an Ohio State fan do it on the internet, and everything!) :)
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 17, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
don't even get me started
on my other pet project: the non Uga bulldogs like Mike etc. Enter the great quagmire of debate. Trilby: is a bull terrier considered a bulldog for these purposes? But alas, those heady questions are for another night.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 11:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed; . . .
. . . I’m starting to wind down myself, but that, my friend, is a fanpost waiting to happen!
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 17, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
questions like these
are why you need to have Dan Magill as a contributor.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 17, 2011 5:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually, questions like these . . .
. . . are among the many, many reasons we need to have Dan Magill as a contributor!
Go 'Dawgs!
Not a Georgia fan, but. . .
While the Pro Combat unis are almost universally terrible (seriously, fading from one color to the other? never done that one before, have you, Nike), I have to give credit to their efforts on TCU and WVU, both of which came off pretty well.
Also, I’ve played on adidas and Nike teams before, and I just found adidas to have vastly superior products. And I’m a fan of an adidas school whose fans seem to love Nike for no apparent reason.
Heel for school, Vol for life!
Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!
by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 17, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked the Bama version and would be fine if ours was similar (although for us, not Bama of course)
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Call me crazy...
… but I kind of like that look. Oregon wore that combo again recently on a “throwback” day against Oregon State, except it was updated with newer, shiny paint and less dull colors on the clothing.

Let’s put it this way… it ain’t highlighter yellow. And it’s a far sight better than something like Wyoming’s monstrosities.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 17, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Just for a start - I would appreciate it if Nike didn't call them "pro combat". Just that alone would be an improvement.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
What? You mean you as a veteran have a problem with applying the term "Pro Combat" . . .
. . . to amateurs playing in an athletic competition?
Oh, yeah, I guess that does make sense, doesn’t it?
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 17, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, I thought...
… that they were “warriors” and “soldiers.” I’m quite sure I’ve heard that terminology somewhere before. Or maybe that comment has been vacated. Never mind.
(Don’t mind me. I’m just looking for another way to bang on Miami.)
by vineyarddawg on Aug 18, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
It's tough in these situations
I remember this same thing coming up when Bowden asked Flight 93 relatives if he could use “Let’s Roll” as his team motto for a season (they said yes) and there was a lot of controversy. But I had my mind changed when they brought up the fact that football is 25% military and war terms. I don’t think elderly Londoners or people in Belgium or France would be fans of talking about blitz coverages. Same goes for bombs, flankers, civil war, ten year war, you get what I’m saying. I didn’t serve, so I’ll stay out of it. But if this were debate class, you’d have a pretty good exercise.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 18, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm terrible.
I’m oh, so liberal, politically, but my sense of humor is liberally politically incorrect.
I might start referring to Florida’s hiring of Spurrier as their Great Leap Forward.
Perhaps Saban’s Bama teams should be called the Khmer Cramoisi.
[dances around Godwin]
In the heyday of Beamerball, maybe he should have said something like, “We don’t have ‘special teams’: we have ‘special ops’.”
Would someone please give Arizona State a season when they could use “Desert Storm”?
Some of you may remember GT’s “Black Watch” defenses in the mid-80s. The Scottish in me was deeply offended.
I must stop.
In 1994 or thereabouts (the season Sports Illustrated named Arizona as its . . .
. . . preseason No. 1 team), the Wildcats referred to their defense as “Desert Swarm.”
Your reference to the “Black Watch” defense reminded me of Nebraska; before the Cornhuskers have earned the right to don the blackshirts, might they be required to make do with a slightly lighter color? Brownshirts, say?
Go 'Dawgs!
the funniest thing
I might have seen that’s sort of similar to this subject is those shirts that Missouri fans wear with an illustration of Lawrence burning during the Lawrence Massacre (or Quantrill’s raid if that’s somebody’s preferred term. Staying out of it.) Underneath it just says “Scoreboard!” Funny but horrible.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 18, 2011 4:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think very few of us care about certain war terminology "that" much, but what we do care about is this:
“We’re going to war…..we soldiers on the battle field” . That kind of thing.
Because, no, you’re not. You really aren’t.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
by tankertoad on Aug 18, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
And (though I'm just a civilian)...
… I draw a distinction between war analogies in peace time and war analogies in the middle of two (three?) wars. If there is a time for battle field talk, it is emphatically not when the people actually wearing “pro-combat” gear and their classmates are leaving high school, enlisting in the military, and offering incredible sacrifices for their country.
by first and thom on Aug 18, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The status of the Tennessee tennis program as truly elite is not necessarily over...
…but it will be interrupted for a year.
Tennessee would have unquestionably been a top 5 program this coming season, with a chance at finally bringing home the NCAA hardware that has continued to just barely elude them.
But then Rhyne Williams — who lost in the finals of the NCAAs to USC’s Steve Johnson — recently turned pro after winning a pro tournament* this summer and posting some other very nice results (e.g. putting a pretty nice whuppin’ on Robby Ginepri, who is a former top 10 player).
And now Tennys Sandgren — who lost to Rhyne Williams in the semifinals of the NCAAs — is rumored to be strongly leaning toward going pro after winning two back-to-back pro tournaments this summer. I’m just going to assume he’s gone.
These are (were) two of the best players in college tennis. With their departure, the Volunteers are looking at a major rebuilding season.
*NOTE: college tennis players can play pro tennis tournaments and retain amateur status so long as they don’t accept prize money that exceeds their expenses.
...just apologize for not thanking me.

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