Random Thoughts on SEC Expansion from a Tired Georgia Bulldogs Fan Sitting in an Airport Far From Home
This weekend, the fine folks at the largest and fastest-growing network of fan-centered on-line sports communities hosted the first (hopefully, the first annual) SB Nation blogger convention in Las Vegas. My wife and I, who celebrated our 14th wedding anniversary last week, went out to Sin City for the weekend, leaving our children with their grandparents (this was a win-win; Thomas and Elizabeth got to spend a couple of days with Grandma and Grandpa, and vice versa) while I met with MaconDawg’s and my network colleagues, and while Susan and I saw the Blue Man Group, toured Hoover Dam, strolled the Strip, and otherwise enjoyed visiting Vegas for the first time.
Because the intent behind the event was to have bloggers share information, look ahead to the future of the network, and enjoy one another’s company, we were asked to spend the weekend at least relatively unplugged. Consequently, I shut down my computer at noon on Friday, went home to pack and prepare for my parents to arrive to look after their grandchildren, and literally did not access the internet until just now, while seated in the Phoenix airport awaiting a connecting flight to Atlanta.
This does not mean, however, that I have been in a complete vacuum in the interim. Susan and I were on our way to the airport on Friday evening when MaconDawg called to tell me not to worry, that he was on it, and to enjoy my trip. I thanked him, expressed my appreciation, and asked him politely about what the heck he was talking. Needless to say, text messages and telephone conversations between your humble co-authors followed on Saturday, as news broke and rumors flew. This was good, because much of what was being relayed as fact in the meeting room of the Renaissance Las Vegas Hotel turned out to be, if not rumor per se, at least premature.
Here, for whatever they might be worth, are my disjoined thoughts on SEC expansion, offered from the perspective of someone who was in Vegas when it all happened, who has read not one word of anything published on the internet (including any postings or comments published here at Dawg Sports) in the interim, and whose body does not recognize the existence of any time zone other than Eastern:
- High on the list of "fun places to be when the Texas A&M Aggies vote to leave the Big 12" is "in a room with a bunch of Texas Longhorns sports bloggers." Austin was well represented in Vegas this weekend, and, while the disdain of rivals is to be expected in any such circumstances---we Georgia Bulldogs fans are still ticked off at the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets for leaving us in the lurch when they bolted the SEC in the ‘60s---the what-the-heck-is-A&M-doing? reaction of the Texas faithful left me more convinced than ever of the logic of the Aggies joining the SEC.
While we were in line for lunch on Saturday, a well-respected Longhorn blogger expressed bafflement at the decision of his team’s season-ending rival. Noting the difficulty of an SEC West slate that yearly included the Alabama Crimson Tide, the Auburn Tigers, and the LSU Tigers, he observed of Texas A&M, "They’re going to be Mississippi State over there." I conceded that this would be true at first, but noted that the Arkansas Razorbacks and the South Carolina Gamecocks both had improved steadily as a result of being in the SEC, to the point that, last year, the Hogs went to a BCS bowl and the ‘Cocks represented their division in the Georgia Dome. "The Aggies aren’t going to a conference championship game in the SEC," the Texas blogger retorted. I replied, "Well, they’re sure not going to a conference championship game in the Big 12." We cordially agreed to disagree, but it says something to me that the Burnt Orange fans are so incredulous about College Station’s attempt to strike out on its own rather than remain a Soviet satellite state in thrall to Austin’s Moscow. This, in short, is a marriage that works for both parties, and, if our league is looking to settle down and commit rather than flirt and play the field, Texas A&M is the right fit for the Southeastern Conference. - Because the Virginia Tech Hokies evidently have been the most vehement in their denials, and because the most persistent rumors flying about where I was concerned the addition of the Clemson Tigers, Florida St. Seminoles, and Missouri Tigers, I gave much thought to those three teams. Despite my initial opposition, I would be comfortable with (though less than thrilled about) Mizzou, if only because the Tigers’ presence in the SEC doesn’t particularly make any less sense than the Kentucky Wildcats’. As for the other two, well . . .
- The addition of Clemson and Florida State would both help and hurt Georgia. If the Country Gentlemen and the Tribe came into the league, it would leave the Bulldogs and the Wildcats as the only teams in the SEC East with obligatory in-state out-of-conference rivalry games, while the Florida Gators’ and the South Carolina Gamecocks’ non-SEC slates virtually would be guaranteed to consist of nothing but cupcakes. On the other hand, the Palmetto State Poultry and the Sunshine State Saurians no longer would be able to brag to recruits that they offered local prospects their only opportunity to remain close to home and play in the SEC. Georgia and Georgia Tech don’t really compete for recruits, but the public Division I-A universities in the states to our immediate east and south do, so it would be to our benefit to have conference opponents in both states diluting one another’s brands.
- The Blue Man Group is cool. That’s neither here nor there, really, but it was a point worth making, and there was nowhere else it fit.
- If the SEC kicks over the dominoes and creates the first (though not the last) 16-team superconference, it probably will pave the way to a Division I-A playoff, which I do not want, but Mike Slive is a smart guy, and he is going about this in a methodical way, much as Larry Scott did when shooting for the moon while knowing he had the Utah Utes as a fallback option if his grand design failed to achieve fruition. The SEC pioneered the twelve-team conference model, so I have complete confidence in the leaders of our league to be the ones to make a larger model work.
- When the rumors broke Saturday morning as though a 16-team SEC arranged along the above lines were a fait accompli, I found it difficult to contain my enthusiasm for the prospect of welcoming Clemson into the conference. Yes, I know all the reasons why such a move doesn’t make sense and isn’t likely to happen, but, when I was walled off from the virtual world and receiving information in drips and drabs, it became clear to me where my sympathies truly lie: I want what’s best for Georgia, first, last, and always; I’m not sure whether this is the right time to expand, but I trust the decisionmakers in this high-stakes game to make the right moves; I think Texas A&M is the right fit, but, at the end of the day, if expansion is going to occur, I largely don’t care what else happens as long as we get Clemson in the conference and go back to playing the Tigers every year. I recognize that this position is problematic, improbable, and largely financially irrational, but the heart wants what it wants, and what my heart wants is to revive a rivalry that defined Bulldog football as much as any other for my generation.
- I was born a Georgian, I will die a Georgian, and, in between, I will live in Georgia. I am tied to the place of my birth, so much so that I literally could drive you to every place I have ever lived in the course of a day, and maybe in the course of an afternoon; I do not believe it to be at all coincidental that perhaps the two most iconic Southern novels, William Faulkner’s The Sound and the Fury and Robert Penn Warren’s All the King’s Men, end with the words "place" and "time," respectively.
I don’t know if it is because of my innate Southerner’s sense of being rooted in a specific locale, but, every time I have designs to cross a state line for any purpose other than attending a sporting event, big news breaks. The day before I went to Florida on vacation in July 2010, the story broke that Damon Evans had been arrested for driving under the influence. While I was in Florida on vacation in July 2011, Caleb King was declared academically ineligible. On the day my wife and I left for Las Vegas, the Texas-A&M-to-the-SEC story went thermonuclear. Could there be any better evidence that Bulldog Nation’s luck is changing than the fact that, this time, I left town, and the news was other than uniformly negative, and (particularly if it gets Clemson back on the schedule annually) could be overwhelmingly positive? (Please ignore this point altogether if a Georgia player has been arrested for emerging from an alley on a scooter while wearing a stolen helmet and driving on a suspended license who misspelled his last name since I received my last update from MaconDawg.)
I don’t know where we go from here. Heck, at this exact moment, I certainly know less about this than you do, because you’ve had access to the internet since noon on Friday, and I haven’t, and your body clock most likely is attuned to the time zone in which you presently find yourself, while mine most assuredly isn’t. Nevertheless, I know this much: Ronald Reagan best expressed how it now feels to be a college football fan right now when he said there has never been a more exciting time to be alive. Help get me up to speed, though, folks. Where do you think we are, what do you think happens next, and how do you feel about our brave new world, which may have Aggies, Seminoles, Tigers, and Tigers in it?
Go ‘Dawgs!
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For what it's worth, incidentally, . . .
. . . my cursory glance at the site (which, I repeat, I have not visited since noon on Friday) reveals a number of new postings and a plethora of new comments, for all of which I thank all of you, and most especially MaconDawg, who would’ve been justified in quoting a certain mantra from “Clerks” when I asked him to pull weekend duty on this one.
In light of the heavy participation this weekend, for which I am most grateful, I thought I would mention that my flight to Atlanta is not scheduled to land until 6:00 a.m. Eastern, and, unless I sleep much better on the plane than I expect, I don’t think I’ll be particularly well-rested upon my arrival. In other words, don’t be shocked if it’s Monday evening before I really get up to speed on goings-on, in the world and at the site. Your patience and participation are appreciated.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 15, 2011 1:50 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I keep going back-and-forth
on this issue.
Initially, I don’t see the benefit of adding an FSU to the SEC East, for that would make our quest for SEC titles and mNCs more difficult.
However, I feel the expansion of the SEC would move us one step closer to a playoff. While I believe I’m in the minority on this issue, I dislike the current BCS set up, and I’m in favor of anything that makes a playoff more probable.
"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.
by Jman781 on Aug 15, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Funny you should mention Blue Man...
… because this seems to have been the Big XII-ish’s reaction to the aTm story over the weekend:

(Seriously, though, Mrs. Vineyarddawg and I love Blue Man. We actually got engaged at a Blue Man show in Chicago in January, 2002.)
Those Boise fans rare really dedicated to their color aren't they?
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Aug 15, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"I'm afraid I just blue myself"
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"It'll only be reviewed because the guys up in the booth want to watch it a few times too." AJ's one-handed catch at Colorado
by AdamLilly on Aug 15, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
There really has got to be a better way to say that.
"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone
Never seen Arrested Development, eh?
That was pretty much the whole point of the show. :-)
by vineyarddawg on Aug 15, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
actually that was a response on the show to one of
Tobias’ many double entendre’s.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Oops.
Thwarted by my own comment. Geez.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 15, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
That was half my fault.
I thought I saw a Graham Cracker out there.

"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone
by RedCrake on Aug 15, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"I was made to understand there would be grilled cheese sandwiches"

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Aug 15, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Best line in the history of television? I submit that it is:
“These are my awards, Mother. From Army. The seal is for marksmanship, and the gorilla is for sand racing."
"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone
by RedCrake on Aug 15, 2011 10:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I caught a marshmellow last spring there.....its a good show. Pricey, but such a rare oddity, its worth it.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
by tankertoad on Aug 15, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can't wait to re
I’ve got a ton of questions regarding the future of SBNation, your interaction with some of the other member blogs, etc, etc …. But I’ve got to know: did you get a tattoo?
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Aug 15, 2011 7:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Most things, perhaps
But I think the nature of tattoos is such that you must take them with you when you leave.
by NCT on Aug 15, 2011 8:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
True enough, . . .
. . . but, if I got a tattoo (which, for the record, I did not), no one who frequents this site would be privy to the details thereof! :)
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 15, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Except herpes.
That sh*t’ll follow you home.
/Continuing the Hangover theme.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 15, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't wait to learn more about the trip
I’ve got a ton of questions regarding the future of SBNation, your interaction with some of the other member blogs, etc, etc …. But I’ve got to know: did you get a tattoo?
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Aug 15, 2011 7:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Were you by any chance attacked with a tire iron by an angry Asian-American who was locked in your trunk?
‘Cause I’ve heard that kind of thing happens in that Godless land.
Will
by wqueenjr on Aug 15, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's OK. It's OK. Kyle hates Godzilla too. He destroys conferences.
And the fact that Ken Jeong is, to this day, licensed to practice medicine still blows my mind.
Adds a new dimension to his age old question...
… “You gonna f*ck on me??”
by vineyarddawg on Aug 15, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
while you were there
you should’ve found a “high ranking source” to tell you that the B1G was poaching Nevada and the PAC 12 was taking UNLV. Good times would be had by all.
by Mark Mandingo on Aug 15, 2011 8:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
"I'm tired and will therefore only give you 10,000 words on this topic." - The Mayor.
"We may have to retire this feature, because the final story in this post will never be topped for sheer Spicy Livin' outside of the silver screen or our own imaginations."
by Silver Britches on Aug 15, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
The Mayor is indeed a gracious, loquacious interlocutor.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 15, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
self correction
that should say “and an admirer of concision”. stupid sbnation comments can’t be edited.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Aug 15, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how does one get to be the senator or the mayor in the interwebs anyhow? I want a cool handle too - like General, or President- Czar, yea, that's a good one.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
How about Captain?
Set phasers to blog!
We're all on the Hindenberg. No reason to fight over a window seat.
by Stubob72556 on Aug 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
by tankertoad on Aug 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If only because it likely warrants a lexicon entry, . . .
. . . the answer to tankertoad’s question is that, back in the Pleistocene Epoch of the sports blogosphere (2005), Brian Cook noted on MGoBlog that the Atlanta area—-home to Orson Swindle, Eagle in Atlanta, Braves ‘n’ Birds, and a plethora of Bulldog bloggers—-was “the capital of blogworld” (that may not be verbatim; this is from memory). Subsequently, when LD of The Corporate Headquarters of the San Antonio Gunslingers was updating his blogroll, he linked to the predecessor site to this one, Kyle on Football at Xanga.com, and referred to me as “the mayor of the capital of blogworld” (again, that may be a paraphrase). The term “mayor” stuck, thus saddling me with perhaps the lamest public office-based nickname conceivable that wasn’t either “county manager” or “election superintendent.” Even “chancellor of the exchequer” and “prince regent” would be improvements, not to mention “president,” “prime minister,” “czar,” “general,” “judge,” et al.
Go 'Dawgs!
How about...
… “Prince Mayor Regent, Esq.?”
by vineyarddawg on Aug 15, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd go with that for a while, then, . . .
. . . when SB Nation tried to claim intellectual property rights in that nickname, I’d start going by an unpronounceable symbol instead.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 15, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah. I followed you in those days, but not as intensely as I was busy. I remember xanga.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
"I Remember Xanga."
I forget, was that one by Asimov, Clarke, or Heinlein?
(Clearly, Tired Punchy Kyle is on duty!)
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 15, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What's worse is i get it. Those guys were like my food source for a while.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
by tankertoad on Aug 15, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Meanwhile, unless someone somewhere has commented more recently . . .
. . . than you have, tankertoad, I believe I am now completely up to date on events at the site over the last few days!
Now, I just need to get caught up on e-mail, Facebook, other sports sites, and non-sports news, and I’ll be good to go!
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Aug 15, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
most excellent
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Four Tigers!!
We should start suggesting new nicknames. Auburn can just use one of their other ten nicknames but, what should we call the others?
“Please ignore this point altogether if a Georgia player has been arrested for emerging from an alley on a scooter while wearing a stolen helmet and driving on a suspended license who misspelled his last name since I received my last update from MaconDawg.”
This is on your head, Kyle.
"It'll only be reviewed because the guys up in the booth want to watch it a few times too." AJ's one-handed catch at Colorado
An ordained minister got injured riding a scooter home from church on Sunday.
God must really hate him some Georgia.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 15, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I just
posted a fanshot before I read your response. I wonder if he’s more banged up than a ‘sprained shoulder.’ Road rash comes to mind, and if you’ve ever had it playing a contact sport ain’t exactly the best thing in the world for it.
D, JD.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Aug 15, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Having now read DavetheDawg's fanshot - this post makes much more sense.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
I haven't read it yet, but, having gotten the gist, . . .
. . . dang.
Am I the only one having Ron Gant flashbacks?
Go 'Dawgs!
Trivia within trivia
At the conclusion of the Route 66 drive my brother and I took several years ago, we headed northeast from Santa Monica into Death Valley, concluding my portion of the road trip in Vegas (my first and only trip there). We did the “hardhat tour” of Hoover Dam, which I understand was discontinued after 9/11, but I could be mistaken. We got to go into the belly of the dam itself, which was a tad disconcerting. But for me, the best part of that visit was the explosion of art deco that the structure and accompanying facilities present.
A few years later, I again found myself in California, this time on a stage with Alex Trebek. For Double Jeopardy, the categories were Gone With the Wind, Frankly (about Frankish kings), My Deer, I Don’t (about categories of persons based on behavior), Give “A” (in which all correct responses began with “A”), and Hoover Dam.
If you listened closely, just before a commercial break you would have heard me pronounce “art deco” correctly (the “t” is silent).
P.S. I’m bored with conference realignment talk. I’m sure I’ll be ready for some more in a few hours.
are you Stephen1980?
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Hey, I may not be universally loved, but that right there is downright unkind (and, I think, unduly so).
I only meant in jest, apologies if you were insulted.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
You are all morally reprehensible.
I did not just call you all morally reprehensible.
Wait . . . wrong [name][number] screen name combination. My bad. Still jet-lagged.
Go 'Dawgs!
You be trippin'

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Aug 15, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the migraine! :-)
"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone
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"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Aug 15, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The closer we get to kick off
the more ornery & restless the natives get……….
I can bake like a demon.
by podunkdawg on Aug 15, 2011 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs

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