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Grading Mark Richt's First Ten Years With the Georgia Bulldogs (Part II)

We are halfway through our year-end review of Mark Richt’s performance as the head coach of the Georgia Bulldogs after a decade on the job. In the first installment, we compared Coach Richt’s records against specific opponents to those of his predecessors in the first ten years of each of their tenures, and now we turn to an evaluation of the respective coaches’ ledgers in more general terms.

As before, in an effort to draw direct apples-to-apples comparisons (of the sort some commentators accuse me, incorrectly, of failing to draw), I will be setting the first ten years of the Mark Richt era (2001-2010) alongside the first ten years of the head coaching careers of Harry Mehre (1928-1937), Wally Butts (1939-1948), and Vince Dooley (1964-1973). Excluded from consideration are Coach Butts’s last twelve years (1949-1960), Coach Dooley’s last 15 years (1974-1988), and the years of service of all Red and Black head coaches who lasted less than a decade (including Alex Cunningham, who fielded eight teams in ten years because Georgia took the war years of 1917 and 1918 off). Though, admittedly, times have changed in many ways since the late 1920s, those changes generally have been of the "a rising tide lifts all boats" variety that provide equal benefits, or, at least, the equal opportunity to take advantage of the available benefits, to all comers; Mark Richt has more talent on hand than his predecessors did, but, then again, so does every opposing coach and program he faces, so the net differential is slight enough to make meaningful comparisons possible.

Got it? Good. Here is the tale of the tape:

Overall Won-Lost Record and Winning Percentage:
Mehre: 59-34-6 (.626)
Butts: 79-27-3 (.739)
Dooley: 73-32-5 (.686)
Richt: 96-34 (.739)

When looking broadly at overall records, I believe it is necessary to look at winning percentages, as well as at total wins, losses, and ties, because the longer regular season, the proliferation of bowl games, and the advent of the SEC Championship Game have produced rather dramatic increases in the total number of games teams play. This is underscored by the fact that, after ten years as the head man in Athens, Coach Mehre had led the Bulldogs onto the field 99 times; Coach Butts, 109 times; Coach Dooley, 110 times; and Coach Richt, 130 times.

In light of that reality, it is noteworthy how close the ten-year loss totals are for the four longest-tenured head coaches in Georgia football history. In his initial decade in Athens, Mark Richt coached the Bulldogs in 20 more games than Vince Dooley, 21 more than Wally Butts, and 31 more than Harry Mehre . . . yet Coach Richt carded the same number of losses as Coach Mehre and only two more than Coach Dooley.

Likewise, Mark Richt coached 21 more games in his first decade than Wally Butts did in his, yet those extra outings produced only seven additional setbacks. Consequently, the two men’s ten-year winning percentages are virtually identical, with Coach Butts’s .73853 narrowly edging Coach Richt’s .73846 in the same sort of battle of decimal places that differentiated George Kell and Ted Williams in the race for the 1949 American League batting title. In terms of overall won-lost record and winning percentage, it’s hard to argue that Mark Richt hasn’t been a good coach, unless one is prepared to argue that Georgia has never had a good coach. As we shall see, this is a recurring theme.

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Bowl Won-Lost Record and Winning Percentage:
Mehre: 0-0 (.000)
Butts: 4-1-1 (.750)
Dooley: 4-3 (.571)
Richt: 7-3 (.700)

It wouldn’t be fair to hold it against Coach Mehre that he never took the Bulldogs to a bowl game; in an era in which all bowls were major bowls, his 1930 (7-2-1), 1931 (8-2), 1933 (8-2), and 1934 (7-3) squads did not qualify for postseason play, though all four of those teams would have gone bowling in the current climate. Coach Richt’s postseason success took a significant hit as a result of Georgia’s loss to Central Florida in last year’s Liberty Bowl, of course, but he continues to have the second-highest bowl winning percentage among the four longest-serving Bulldog coaches.

Conference Won-Lost Record and Winning Percentage:
Mehre: 29-25-5 (.534)
Butts: 34-18-2 (.648)
Dooley: 38-21-2 (.639)
Richt: 53-27 (.663)

Please note that, during the first five years of Coach Mehre’s tenure, the Red and Black competed in the Southern Conference, and that Coach Richt’s 2-1 record in SEC Championship Games is not incorporated into the above tally. Even excluding his .667 winning clip in conference title tilts, Coach Richt still has the best league winning percentage of any Georgia coach with a decade under his belt. Moreover, despite having led the Bulldogs in 80 regular-season SEC games, Coach Richt has lost only twice more than Coach Mehre (who presided over 59 conference contests), six more times than Coach Dooley (61), and nine more times than Coach Butts (54).

Yes, the critics will counter, but just look at the last five years, and see how Coach Richt has dropped off! It’s true; he has. From 2006 to 2010, Coach Richt was 23-17 in SEC play, posting a .575 winning percentage. This trails significantly Coach Butts’s 22-7 record and .759 percentage from 1944 to 1948. However, Coach Richt’s conference record in his sixth through tenth seasons still exceeds the .500 winning percentage of Coach Mehre (who went 12-12-2 in SEC outings from 1933 to 1937) and the .547 winning percentage of Coach Dooley (who went 17-14-1 in league play from 1969 to 1973).

The fairer criticism of Coach Richt is that, whereas Coach Butts (in 1946 and 1948) and Coach Dooley (in 1966 and 1968) both went undefeated in SEC play twice in their first ten years, Coach Richt has yet to complete a conference campaign with an unblemished ledger. The flipside of this is that, while Coach Richt has finished with a losing league record just once (3-5 in 2010), Coach Dooley did it twice (in 1969 and 1973), Coach Butts did it thrice (in 1939, 1940, and 1943), and Coach Mehre did it four times (in 1928, 1932, 1935, and 1937).

Non-Conference Won-Lost Record and Winning Percentage:
Mehre: 30-9-1 (.763)
Butts: 45-9-1 (.827)
Dooley: 35-11-3 (.745)
Richt: 41-6 (.872)

These numbers include bowl results, but do not include SEC Championship Game outcomes or the games against non-conference teams in the mid-1960s which counted as de facto league outings (which were included in the preceding set of figures). Bear in mind, as well, that Coach Mehre and Coach Butts faced the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets as a conference opponent, whereas Coach Dooley and Coach Richt locked horns with the Engineers as an out-of-conference rival.

Because SEC slates have expanded as regular seasons have lengthened, the four coaches faced comparable numbers of non-conference foes in their respective opening decades: Coach Mehre faced 40 non-league opponents; Coach Butts, 55; Coach Dooley, 49; and Coach Richt, 47. Of that quartet, Coach Richt has the fewest losses, the highest winning percentage, and the most undefeated seasons in non-conference play (5). Like Coach Butts and Coach Dooley, Coach Richt has never posted a losing record against non-SEC opposition in any of his first ten years, and the current Bulldog skipper has lost more than one out-of-conference contest in an autumn only once, last year.

Championships Won:
Mehre: 0 conference, 0 national
Butts: 3 conference, 2 national
Dooley: 2 conference, 1 national
Richt: 2 conference, 0 national

Rather a large asterisk needs to be attached to a couple of those national championships; Georgia’s only consensus No. 1 rankings came in 1942 (under Wally Butts) and in 1980 (under Vince Dooley), and the 1946 and 1968 titles were bestowed by the Williamson power ratings system and the Litkenhous difference-by-score formula, respectively. Those are the sorts of national championships the Alabama Crimson Tide are mocked for counting.

Still, the point remains: Mark Richt’s goose egg in the national championship column remains a sore spot among the faithful, though this likely has less to do with any deficiency inherent in our head coach than with the fact that the SEC has won five straight BCS titles---the last SEC champion not to take home the crystal football at season’s end was Georgia in 2005---and the disconcerting reality that four of Coach Richt’s current conference coevals (Gene Chizik, Les Miles, Nick Saban, and Steve Spurrier), as well as such former foils as Phillip Fulmer and Urban Meyer, all have ended the autumn ranked No. 1 at an SEC school. This shortcoming threatens to overshadow his having matched Coach Dooley’s first decade in number of conference championships won.

Seasons at or Below .500:
Mehre: 2 (4-5 in 1928, 2-5-2 in 1932)
Butts: 1 (5-6 in 1939)
Dooley: 2 (5-5-1 in 1969, 5-5 in 1970)
Richt: 1 (6-7 in 2010)

Even good coaches have mediocre seasons. It ain’t fun, but it happens, and it passes. Coach Mehre followed up his worst season with an 8-2 campaign in 1933; Coach Butts made up for the lone losing ledger of his first decade by improving steadily to 5-4-1 in 1940, 9-1-1 in 1941, and 11-1 in 1942; Coach Dooley erased the stigma of back-to-back .500 records by going 11-1 in 1971. In any case, Coach Richt has had exactly as many truly mediocre seasons as Coach Butts had had at the same point in his career, and fewer than Coach Mehre and Coach Dooley did.

Conclusion

As an admirer of concision, I must concede that Matt Wise said it best within the absurdly confining strictures of Twitter:

prior to last season 90-27. .500 or better vs every SEC school except UF (2-8). Still above Butts & Dooley pace. Relax

Any honest evaluation of the numbers in their totality necessarily leads to the conclusion that Mark Richt is the best Georgia head football coach of the last 50 years, and lends credence to the contention that he is the best of all time. The argument against Coach Richt---and it is far from a frivolous one---is that it matters not just that you win, but also when you win. Given the dramatic drop-off between Coach Butts’s first ten years and his last twelve seasons, there is a legitimate question whether evaluating the numbers in their totality is the most accurate approach to take, and no denizen of Bulldog Nation ought to have his fandom questioned for raising that inquiry.

Which, then, is the real Mark Richt? Is it the coach who went 52-13 and won two SEC championships from 2001 to 2005, or is it the coach who went 44-21 and failed to make it to a single conference championship game from 2006 to 2010? Is Coach Richt going through a bad patch, as Coach Dooley did between 1969 and 1974 before recovering and going on an impressive run from 1975 to 1983, or is he in the midst of a long decline, the way Coach Butts was between 1949 and 1958 before the short-lived resurgence of 1959?

At the end of the day, the way you answer those questions boils down to the way you answer this one: "Do you believe Mark Richt was right when he told the Bulldog Club that he knew what the hell he was doing?" According to the yardsticks established by Harry Mehre, Wally Butts, and Vince Dooley, there certainly appears to be a compelling case to be made for the proposition that he does . . . though the natives (including this one) justifiably are getting restless, so now would be a good time to prove that what we know was true in the past remains relevant in the present. Fortunately, there is cause for hope that the law of averages applies from season to season, as it does from series to series, inasmuch as 2010 was an autumn of significant statistical anomalies in which almost everything improved except the Bulldogs’ record.

Mr. Sanchez raises a fair question: "Can we do better than Mark Richt?" History is not necessarily destiny, but past definitely is prologue, and the heritage of Georgia football indicates that improving upon Mark Richt would be highly unlikely, and perhaps unprecedented. Anyone advocating a coaching change at this juncture must confront the fact that a grand slam hire would be required to take the program to a higher level over the next decade than the one it has occupied over the last one. A mere home run hire would not suffice; if Greg McGarity merely succeeds in bringing in the next Vince Dooley, we will be worse off, albeit only marginally so.

Of course, it remains plausible to presume Coach Richt has passed his prime. After all, his mentor, Bobby Bowden, undoubtedly did, and, among his long-lived predecessors in the Classic City, Wally Butts clearly did, while Vince Dooley arguably did. It remains the case, though, that, in order to improve upon Mark Richt, we would have to hire a coach who not only was better than our current coach, but who also was better than Harry Mehre, Wally Butts, and Vince Dooley, too. If we fire Mark Richt and hire someone else, either his successor undeniably will be the best coach the Bulldogs have ever had, or we arguably will have traded down.

The attainment of that goal is by no means an impossible dream. The Alabama Crimson Tide and the Florida Gators once faced the daunting tasks of improving upon Frank Thomas and Steve Spurrier, respectively, yet still they managed to find Bear Bryant and Urban Meyer. We know, therefore, that it can be done; we just need to be aware of the odds ere we elect to---as we may, and as we may have to---roll the dice.

Can we do better than Mark Richt? Yes, we can . . . but, historically, we haven’t, and we should proceed realistically with the full knowledge of our heritage. Lord Falkland said it best: "When it is not necessary to change, it is necessary not to change." If the downward trend continues this fall for a fourth straight season, it will be necessary to change, but, if the program begins to ascend anew, the wisdom bestowed upon us by history counsels against making a change we do not need.

Coming Soon: Looking ahead to the 2011 college football season.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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This will take more research, but

has there been shake -ups in the assistant coaches during these down periods? It can be hard to get things down without the right help!

by BSUPHAN1 on Jul 14, 2011 7:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Good question. There always will be room for more data.

Because any win or loss does not occur without an opponent, the goings-on at other programs are pertinent, too. The slide we experienced after Butts’s first ten years was accompanied by the promotion of a certain assistant coach to head man over at the Trade School and the “calling home” by Auburn of a former Tiger athlete to take the helm on the Plains.

Damn it. That was fun, but not very helpful. Bobby Dodd became Tech’s head coach in 1945. Shug Jordan became Auburn’s head coach in 1951.

However, because there always will be room for more data, one must draw the line somewhere.

by NCT on Jul 14, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well done

I’ve always felt, and this isn’t particularly original on my part, that many of the older era coaches would not have survived in today’s “win now” climate. Not saying thats a good or a bad thing, but it seems undeniable.

Dawg fan by birth,
no longer in Beaumont by the grace of God.

by Dawg in Beaumont on Jul 14, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

good coaching.

Mark Richt sits at number 5 on the Coaches Hot Seat….right next to Mack Brown at #6. Hard to believe CMB has been at Texas 14 years and 5 years removed from a NC and the recent 2009 conf championship there he sits. Player/Coach and Tennessee native: Phil Fulmer was the HC for the Vols for 18 years. The memory of a decade old NC and the recent Eastern Division titles were not enough to sustain him. Vols paid him well and he will never coach again. Rich Rod never gelled with the power brokers and was not a Michigan Man. He took his 5 million and now is an analyst. You have to be able to get along with the local power brokers if you want to coach at their University. Tubberville won 80% of his games yet it was only a matter of time before he was gone. He never learned to gee-haw! Tuberville is still driven to coach. Urban burnt up but he lasted long enough to run his string. When the super stars graduated and coordinators cashed in …… he also took to the sports network. Tressel’s demise was self inflicted or he would have made it longer. Like Fulmer I don’t believe he will coach again. Nebraska may win the Big 10(+2) this year-h/t to Tressel. Nick Saban is entering his 6th year a Alabama. His two previous college HC stints lasted 5 years each. It’s been 5 years since Les Miles won the NC and it’s been that long since the last conference title as well. If Les Miles is the luckiest coach in the SEC then Mark Richt is the most snake bit. I hope Coach Richt can turn it around. It’s hard to maintain excellence in a division like the SEC. If he can’t ,I’m sure the 6.8 million dollar buyout will be well spent.

by AthensHomerDawg3 on Jul 14, 2011 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

My first time to comment on a Georgia Blog

First, let me say well done on this article. As a Tech fan I never read what the Georgia blogs are saying but I saw this link on a Tech site and got curious.

Secondly, you have said in a more technical way what I have said for years in a more casual and intuitive way. Mark Richt is an excellent coach.

Finally, if you are willing, I would love for you to test one counter hypothesis. That hypothesis would postulate that Rich’s overall percentage in general, and his out of conference percentage in particular, is helped by the number of patsies Georgia schedules compared to someone like Vince Dooley who had teams like Michigan and Miami among his out of conference foes. I am not arguing a case, I simply have an impression which I am not interested enough in to research on my own.

I am aware that some Georgia fans base their dissatisfaction of Richt on the fact that Georgia is consistently rated in the top 10 nationally for recruiting classes and has no national championship to show for it. As a Tech fan this hardly rises to the level of serious complaint since from our perspective Georgia has always had good recruiting.

by Atlanta's original team on Jul 14, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

First of all, thanks for visiting, and for commenting.

There certainly is some validity to that point, though not as much as I expect most folks would think.

For one thing, as noted above, Georgia Tech was a conference game for Harry Mehre and Wally Butts, but a non-conference game for Vince Dooley and Mark Richt. That, obviously, strengthened the non-conference schedules of the Georgia coaches after the mid-1960s.

The proliferation of bowl games also adds respectable non-conference foes to the slate, as all bowl games are against non-conference opponents, all of which are Division I-A opponents who qualified for bowl games.

Mark Richt clearly has benefited from having Division I-AA opponents on the schedule, and Vince Dooley deserves credit for the games against Miami and Michigan. After 1965 (Coach Dooley’s second year), however, the Bulldogs did not travel outside the South for a regular-season game until 2008, so his non-conference opposition almost always was local and usually was between the hedges. Likewise, Coach Butts faced non-conference opponents like Mercer who would’ve been Division I-AA (or FCS) teams had that designation existed at the time.

On the whole, I don’t know that Coach Richt’s non-conference slates have been significantly easier. Yes, there have been more patsies, but there have been more legitimate opponents, as well, and his impressive record against ACC opponents lends legitimacy to his non-conference winning percentage.

Nevertheless, you raise a valid point, which is worth more detailed examination. I’m sure I’m right as far as it goes, but, without deeper exploration of the question, I don’t know how far it goes. Thanks again for commenting. Good luck from Labor Day until Thanksgiving!

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 14, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say we've had more patsies either, but my memory of Dooley's schedules isn't strong

Richt has faced a respectable at the time Arizona St and Oklahoma St in the regular season schedule. Boise with Zabransky was well regarded at the time, although not as much as this year’s Boise. Colorado was at least D1 although Hawkins really had them pretty bad. Georgia Tech, as you mention, is now a yearly OOC opponent. We had a pair of solid beatings on Clemson early in his time. I’d wager since he’s been in Athens, we’ve played more respectable OOC opponents (not including bowls either) than any other SEC team and maybe any major conference team in the South (unscientific off the top of head statement that could easily be wrong).

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 14, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's no question you're right about that.

To me, the question is how Mark Richt’s non-conference schedules compare to those of his predecessors. I feel comfortable saying that, on the whole, Mark Richt has faced tougher slates than Wally Butts or Vince Dooley. Harry Mehre, though, took his team on the road to face the Eastern powers of his day, and acquitted himself respectably well. Coach Mehre deserves credit for taking on Fordham, Harvard, NYU, Yale, et al.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 14, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

All true...

… but don’t automatically discount the 2005 Boise team, either. The 2004 Boise State team went undefeated in the regular season, losing only to a Bobby Petrino-coached (and #8-ranked) Louisville team in the Liberty Bowl. (If memory serves, this is also the only time the Liberty Bowl has ever had a matchup of top-10 teams.)

Then, in 2006, the team went undefeated and beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl with that hook-and-lateral and then statue of liberty play.

In my opinion, the 2005 Boise State team wasn’t that different from the teams in 2004 and 2006… it’s just that they ran into a buzzsaw named Georgia in their first game, which broke their confidence and got them off to a sour start.

by vineyarddawg on Jul 14, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not discounting them vine,...

just saying this year’s version is much more respected nationally than 2005 Boise.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 14, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Buzzsaw named Georga

and Zebranski’s brains running out his butt.

by BSUPHAN1 on Jul 14, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

He had to go to a psychologist

to sew his head back up after that one. But to his credit, he got it back together for 2006.

by BSUPHAN1 on Jul 14, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Without crunching numbers ...

Dooley also had fewer SEC games on the schedule and fewer games over all, but very frequent OOC matchups against Clemson and South Carolina (in addition to the aforementioned GT). We hosted the likes of Pitt (during the Dorsett years) and UCLA (off the top of my head) but outside of the states of Georgia and South Carolina travelled nowhere.

by NCT on Jul 14, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

A bad patch of note...

Bad patches happen to the best. Look at Paul “Bear” Bryant’s “bad patch,” for example.

1967 Alabama 8–2–1
1968 Alabama 8–3
1969 Alabama 6–5
1970 Alabama 6–5–1

Bear had won two National Championships in the ’60s (and split a third). Beginning in 1967, Alabama had consecutive 8-win seasons and then two mediocre years where the Crimson Tide finished both seasons unranked. At the end of the 1970 season, Bryant was being roundly criticized and may have been on the original “hot seat.”

But Coach Bryant adapted. He implemented the wishbone in 1971 and the winning ways returned to Tuscaloosa, as Alabama reeled off 5 consecutive SEC Titles until Georgia broke their run in 1976.

1971 Alabama 11–1
1972 Alabama 10–2
1973 Alabama 11–1
1974 Alabama 11–1
1975 Alabama 11–1

Shit Bad patches happen. How does one recover?

Drink lots of iced tea and become bold. Adapting works, too. Maybe the second season of Grantham’s 3-4 defense will bear this out. It better.

Dawg in Beaumont has a good point. I’m taking some liberties here, but I wonder how much heat Bear Bryant would be feeling if the interwebs, blogs, twitter, etc were around at the end of the 1970 season (Especially after Alabama hosted and lost to Southern California, led by an African-American – Sam Cunningham)? If this is 1971, would Richt be so squarely on the hot-seat with none of the aforementioned 24/7 news cycles around?

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jul 14, 2011 9:57 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

PAAAAWL....

We need to fire that Bryant feller PAAAAWL!

"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone

by RedCrake on Jul 14, 2011 10:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bad patch? I'm unfamiliar with that term...


25 yrs, not a single one had more than 3 losses, or less than 9 wins. 60% (15 of the 25) had 10+ wins. 3 undefeated seasons and 3 more with jusst a single defeat. He is probably a rare exception of sustained excellence though.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 14, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he spent most of his career in the Big Eight, . . .

. . . which consisted of Nebraska, Oklahoma, and . . . uh . . . did I mention Nebraska and Oklahoma?

If Mark Richt had faced Tom Osborne’s schedules, he’d have Tom Osborne’s record, too. Most decent coaches would. For all the grief Boise State gets, the Big Eight was closer to the WAC than it was to the SEC.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 14, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kansas and K St were bad....

Iowa St was too. I assume Okie St and Mizzou were mediocre at best. But Colorado got solid under McCaratney, especially around 90-94 when Nebraska was hitting it’s peak. Of course, if I’m not mistaken, that was probably when Oklahoma was getting run in to the ground so the Buffaloes just replaced the Sooners as lone competitor for a title.

Still though Kyle, you have to admit the man was consistently strong and had no real bad patch or down period like you see with almost every other coach who lasted 15+ years at a single school. He took over that train from Devaney and it never stopped chugging.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 14, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

The point is that it was always a two-team league, . . .

. . . though you’re right that it briefly went from being Nebraska-Oklahoma to being Nebraska-Colorado. It’s a lot easier to maintain success when your schedule is loaded with weak sisters (e.g., Florida State in the pre-Virginia Tech ACC).

I’d also point out that the train may not have stopped chugging, but it went off the tracks a few times in Sunshine State bowl games. :)

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 14, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

gotta give him credit for the balls to go for 2 and the win, instead of a tie and probably title in that early 80s game against Miami. Also, his 93 team lost to FSU, if I recall correctly, due to a blatant missed holding call on the Noles decisive TD.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 14, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always admired that about Osborne

I still think Texas wins the National Championship over Miami if they would’ve beaten Georgia.

Nebraska had been ranked #1 from the start of the season in ’83. Texas was ranked #2 virtually the entire season. When Miami and Nebraska met, Miami was #4 in the nation.

To this day, despite the upset, I doubt the Hurricanes (the definition of an upstart program) jump Texas in the polls.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jul 14, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bear was smart

He set the Tide up to lose that year to Southern Cal to reinforce the point he had been making behind the scenes to the powers that be, namely that it was time to let African-Americans join the team.

by Atlanta's original team on Jul 14, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

A quick change of pace

Here’s a quick pick-me-up before you all call it lunch back there. A little of what the Atlanta game might be like!
http://www.wimp.com/crazydownhill/

by BSUPHAN1 on Jul 14, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I was just thinking, "It's been a few days since some random Boise State fan posted a weird video link..."

So, you’re saying the game is going to be like mountain biking down a cliff in southern Utah? Have you been to an SEC game before?

That will only be a correct comparison if 80,000 people are rooting for one of the guys to fall off his bike to his death in the canyon, and if both cyclists have knives.

by vineyarddawg on Jul 14, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I just wanted to share the video

and hope that the game is as insane to watch. I ride (rode) mt. bike and down hill is my favorite. I love the excitement and hope the game is as such.

by BSUPHAN1 on Jul 14, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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