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Grading Mark Richt's First Ten Years With the Georgia Bulldogs (Part I)

Ladies and gentlemen, we are about to put 2010 behind us. I have reviewed my preseason predictions and my bowl forecasts, which leaves me with the duty to evaluate Mark Richt’s tenure as the head coach of the Georgia Bulldogs after a full decade on the job.

As I did last year, I will judge Coach Richt in the only fair way I know how, by comparing his performance in his time on the job to the performances of those of his predecessors who lasted at least that long in the job, for the same period. In other words, I will be comparing Mark Richt’s first ten years as the head coach in Athens (2001-2010) to the first ten years of Harry Mehre (1928-1937), Wally Butts (1939-1948), and Vince Dooley (1964-1973).

I will not be looking at Coach Butts’s last twelve years (1949-1960), Coach Dooley’s last 15 years (1974-1988), or any part of the tenures of any Georgia coaches who guided the program for less than a decade. Accordingly, Pop Warner, Alex Cunningham (who technically led the program for ten years, from 1910 to 1919, but who fielded only eight teams, as the Red and Black took the war years of 1917 and 1918 off), Herman Stegeman, Kid Woodruff, Johnny Griffith, Ray Goff, Jim Donnan, and the lesser-known Georgia coaches will not be considered.

Only four head coaches have led the Bulldogs for ten or more football seasons: our current coach, the two men whose names are on the building in which our current coach’s office is located, and the man whose name is on the athletic complex in which that building is located. It is at these four men we will be looking, examining their respective records against the rest of the teams currently in the SEC, against perennial non-conference opponents Clemson and Georgia Tech, overall, in bowls, in conference play, and against out-of-conference opponents, in order to determine where Coach Richt rates in the context of Georgia history. We will look at the highs (championships won) and the lows (seasons at or below .500), as well.

This is an attempt at fairness, though I am sure it will get me branded a Richtophile by those who mistakenly believe Thomas Jefferson was in attendance at the Constitutional convention instead of serving as the U.S. minister plenipotentiary to France. (Please note that the foregoing is merely a good-natured jab at CCRider, with whom I have principled disagreements, but whom I nevertheless respect. Also, I’d be willing to bet we see eye-to-eye on Constitutional interpretation.) The ground rules having been established, let us begin:

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Georgia v. Mississippi State:
Mehre: 0-0
Butts: 0-0
Dooley: 3-1
Richt: 2-1

The two sets of SEC Bulldogs never have been frequent foils for one another, and the teams met only once before 1950. Coach Dooley and Coach Richt had similar starts against Mississippi State: their respective first three encounters with MSU each consisted of one double-digit victory, one three-point victory, and one low-scoring setback in the Magnolia State.

Georgia v. Vanderbilt:
Mehre: 1-1
Butts: 0-0
Dooley: 7-1
Richt: 9-1

As aggravating as it is that Georgia lost to the Commies in 2006, the performance of Coach Richt’s clubs against the ‘Dores has been no worse than par for the course. No Bulldog head coach has beaten Vandy more times in his first decade than Mark Richt, and every Georgia skipper with a ten-year tenure who faced the Commodores in his first decade on the job lost to Vanderbilt exactly once in that span.

Georgia v. Kentucky:
Mehre: 0-0
Butts: 5-2-1
Dooley: 8-2
Richt: 8-2

Here, we see the Vanderbilt theme repeated: Georgia coaches who faced the Wildcats in their first ten years lost to Kentucky twice during that period. Regarding his most comparable predecessor, Coach Richt continues to hold serve when measured against Coach Dooley.

Georgia v. Arkansas:
Mehre: 0-0
Butts: 0-0
Dooley: 0-1
Richt: 5-1

Once again, last year’s loss to one of the best recent Razorback squads was gut-wrenching, but, in context, it doesn’t look so bad. Coach Richt’s predecessors rarely faced, and never beat, the Hogs in the first ten years of their Georgia careers. More than half of the Bulldogs’ all-time wins over Arkansas have occurred on Coach Richt’s watch, as opposed to only one-fourth of the Red and Black’s all-time losses.

Georgia v. Alabama:
Mehre: 1-4
Butts: 4-3
Dooley: 1-3
Richt: 3-1

While the Bulldogs’ lone loss to the Crimson Tide in the Mark Richt era was absolutely devastating, it was a single setback, which distinguishes him from his predecessors, all of whom lost at least thrice against Alabama and only one of whom was above .500 against the Tide.

Georgia v. LSU:
Mehre: 0-3
Butts: 2-4
Dooley: 0-0
Richt: 3-3

The Bulldogs’ budding rivalry with the Bayou Bengals has blossomed over the course of the last decade, producing a .500 record (overall and in a pair of SEC Championship Game tilts), with two of the three losses coming by single digits. Coach Richt’s 3-3 record against Louisiana State represents an improvement over his predecessors’ records, particularly when we pause to consider how solid the Tigers have been during the Nick Saban and Les Miles regimes.

Georgia v. Ole Miss:
Mehre: 0-0
Butts: 1-1-1
Dooley: 5-3
Richt: 4-0

Since the series started in 1940, only Coach Richt has maintained an unblemished ledger against the Rebels in his first decade on the job, with the ‘Dawgs defeating the Mississippians by two touchdowns or more in three of four meetings during his tenure.

Georgia v. Clemson:
Mehre: 2-0
Butts: 4-0
Dooley: 8-0
Richt: 2-0

The heyday of the Red and Black’s rivalry with the Orange and Purple came in the second half of the Vince Dooley era, in which the two teams went 5-5-1 against one another between 1977 and 1987, with nine of eleven meetings being settled by seven or fewer points. Nevertheless, no Georgia coach who lasted at least a decade in Athens has ever lost to the Tigers in his first ten years on the job, though Coach Richt, like Coach Mehre, only had two opportunities to cross paths with Clemson during that portion of his Classic City career.

Georgia v. South Carolina:
Mehre: 1-0
Butts: 3-0
Dooley: 6-0-1
Richt: 7-3

Outside of the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party (about which more anon), there may be no series in which Bulldog Nation has greater cause for concern than in the annual division battle with the Palmetto State Poultry. That the gap has narrowed is evident, both from Coach Richt’s won-lost record against the Gamecocks---his teams have lost thrice to South Carolina, a program to which none of his long-lasting predecessors lost even once in the same time-frame---and from the routine closeness of those contests. To their credit, the Garnet and Black have gotten better under Lou Holtz and Steve Spurrier, ultimately winning the SEC East last season, so it isn’t merely a matter of the Bulldogs backsliding. Nevertheless, a trio of losses in ten tries represents a step in the wrong direction historically, with one caveat: Georgia lost to South Carolina five times in eleven meetings between Vince Dooley’s last season in 1988 and Jim Donnan’s last season in 2000.

Georgia v. Tennessee:
Mehre: 0-2
Butts: 0-0
Dooley: 1-2-1
Richt: 6-4

On the one hand, Mark Richt has lost to the Vols as many times in his first ten years (4) as Harry Mehre, Wally Butts, and Vince Dooley combined. On the other hand, Coach Richt has beaten the Big Orange six times in ten tries, whereas his three similarly-tenured predecessors defeated Tennessee once in a half-dozen attempts. Coach Richt has delivered more than one-third of all of Georgia’s victories over the Volunteers, including half of all of the Bulldogs’ wins in Neyland Stadium.

Georgia v. Georgia Tech:
Mehre: 6-2-2
Butts: 6-4
Dooley: 8-2
Richt: 9-1

Clearly, no Georgia coach has been as successful against the Yellow Jackets in his first ten years on the job as Mark Richt, and only Vince Dooley comes close. Truly, Coach Richt runs this state.

Georgia v. Auburn:
Mehre: 5-4-1
Butts: 7-2
Dooley: 5-5
Richt: 6-4

The closeness of the Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry is attested to by the fact that three of the four longest-serving Georgia coaches all hovered around .500 against the Plainsmen after ten years in the Classic City. Though he has not matched Coach Butts’s success against the Tigers, Coach Richt has fared marginally better against the Bulldogs’ oldest foes than Coach Mehre and Coach Dooley, claiming memorable victories over Auburn in 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007, and 2009. Half of Coach Richt’s losses to the Plainsmen came against Auburn squads that went undefeated.

Georgia v. Florida:
Mehre: 6-3-1
Butts: 8-1
Dooley: 5-4-1
Richt: 2-8

There’s just no sugar-coating this one. Every previous long-lived Georgia coach has had a winning record against the Gators at the end of a decade, even if only barely, but Mark Richt has lost to the Sunshine State Saurians four-fifths of the time. Though Coach Richt is the only Bulldog skipper to have faced both of the Orange and Blue’s two greatest coaches, Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer, he faced the former only once in Jacksonville, and Coach Richt had a losing record even against the mediocre Ron Zook. Most maddening is the fact that the ‘Dawgs dropped thoroughly winnable games against the Gators in 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, and 2010. In the 1990s, Ray Goff’s and Jim Donnan’s teams were simply outmatched by the Evil Genius’s dominant squads, but, despite being essentially on an equal footing with Florida, Mark Richt has fared no better against the Saurians than the rest of the SEC East. Since the road from Athens to Atlanta runs through Jacksonville, this situation is intolerable and inexcusable, and it ultimately may prove to be as much of an albatross around Coach Richt’s neck as John Cooper’s inability to beat Michigan eventually did.

Conclusion

On the whole, it’s hard to be terribly critical of Coach Richt’s records against any SEC opponents or significant out-of-conference rivals except Florida and, to a lesser yet still not inconsiderable extent, South Carolina. However, the dominance of often good and occasionally great Georgia teams by often good yet rarely great Gator squads is unprecedented, as the Saurians’ only comparable periods of dominance came when the ‘Dawgs were down, the Gators were peaking, or both.

Likewise, the gradual decline of the Red and Black at a time of gradual improvement by the Garnet and Black is disturbing, though existing downward trends in the Bulldogs’ series with both SEC East competitors were ameliorated, but not reversed, when Coach Richt arrived in the Classic City. The Bulldogs were 1-10 against Florida from 1990 to 2000 and 6-5 against South Carolina from 1988 to 2000, so the Mark Richt era has seen incremental improvements in both rivalries, though not restorations of the previous trends that saw Georgia go 33-7-2 against the Gamecocks through 1987 and 44-22-2 against the Gators through 1989.

Aside from those division foes, the Athenians otherwise have fared well, and frequently very well, against the other opponents on the schedule under Mark Richt in comparison to the coaches who have come before him.

To be continued . . .

Go ‘Dawgs!

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A straight up comparison among coaches is fatally flawed. . .

The comparisons should take into consideration factors such as Georgia’s massive population growth from Butts’s days to Richt’s. That is just one example, but it is a massive help to any modern UGA coach.

There are many reasons to expect more out of a UGA coach today than we once did.

by GoonerDawg on Jul 13, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

True, but that cuts both ways.

You can’t hold a Georgia coach more accountable due to the Peach State’s population growth since the 1940s without also cutting him substantial slack on his record against the Gators, since the Sunshine State’s population has grown by even greater leaps and bounds in that same span. I prefer to say the Gators have to put on their pants, one leg at a time, the same as the Bulldogs do, and that, therefore, we ought to beat them more often than we do, because we historically have been able to do so.

The fact is that we have the history that we have, and the changes that have occurred have occurred across the board. Winning is still winning.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

But...

Have not the populations of S.C., Ala, and Tenn grown, too?

by NRBQ on Jul 13, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting stuff

I love those Clemson numbers. No Georgia coach to last 10 years has ever lost to Clemson in their first 10. 16-0

Dawg fan by birth,
no longer in Beaumont by the grace of God.

by Dawg in Beaumont on Jul 13, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

So what you're trying to say is...

if we never have a coach go past 10 years on the job, we’d never lose to Clemson?

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 13, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Haha, sounds right

Rec’d

Dawg fan by birth,
no longer in Beaumont by the grace of God.

by Dawg in Beaumont on Jul 13, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

As you've hinted before

It appears a Georgia fan’s feelings toward CMR at the moment seem to depend almost entirely on whether one believes he is on a permanent downward trajectory (or has permanently plateaued) or if he is simply going through a down part of a cycle (as almost all coaches with a long tenure do).

If you believe as I do that the latter is the case, the question becomes: How long is it acceptable for the down part of the cycle to last? I would imagine that, on this question, everyone’s mileage may vary widely.

"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone

by RedCrake on Jul 13, 2011 1:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Part two is scheduled to be posted at a quarter after midnight tonight, . . .

. . . but you have anticipated accurately a large part of my ultimate conclusion.

Still stay up to read it, though, ‘cause there’s some good stuff in there!

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed on the first...

and Richt almost seems like the upstanding version of John Cooper. A lot of pretty strong success except for a single bugaboo that just can’t be overcome which all fans begin to fixate on since they are our primary rival for championships.

And as I said elsewhere, the idea that it’s just a down cycle could be understandable to me if it weren’t for the mind numbing adherence to clearly problematic issues: Fabris’ kickoffs, Willie’s adherence to a base 4-3 vs spread teams, the reluctance to make a change in S&C, the problematic OL which has had a reoccuring issue multiple times now in his 10 years on the job, among other issues. I’d feel more confident in his ability to make neccessary changes if he hadn’t been so stubborn in not making obviously needed changes until they were long overdue so many times in the past.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 13, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr Sanchez, this hits the nail right on the head for my concerns.

I like CMR, and I want to see him through 2012 before I am ready to firmly say it’s time for change, even if this year isn’t great. My concerns have been what you listed, what seemed to be blatantly obvious changes took so long. One of the quotes about S&C is they had to “bus the athletes off campus” during the revamp of the new facility. Things like that sound like bad planning or bad excuses. Other things that I still don’t get is how we dropped what was working 17-0 against Auburn when you know they are going to come back. When we played Auburn it should have been all out they whole game. And all those Logan Gray fair catches. What the hell is that all about? I remember one game when CTG was begging CMR (people read his lips) to go for a punt block, CMR, if we read it correctly said something like “It’s ok.” So you dont go for a block, and you put in your known fair catch guy. It’s just all wierd.

I am sure it’s coming in Kyle’s next post, but what we need this year is a big improvement in attitudes, S&C and game preparation. Regardless of who we lose to. If those things happen and continue to happen then in 2012 I except our O Line mess to be straightened out and no less than 10 wins in 2012. If that doesnt happen, I would say the plataue is there and is staying.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

C+ for editing.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

@ Son of Sancho

I’ve noticed you post here more than on your own site. I like it here too.

by AthensHomerDawg3 on Jul 13, 2011 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Out of respect for the man who runs this site

I’d appreciate if you’d keep our banter there and not bring it here. He doesn’t deserve your nonsense bringing down his comment threads.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 13, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Play nice....

Are you fronting on me again? You had me at “I’d appreciate if you’d keep our banter there and not bring it here.” You lost me with that parting somewhat chickesque shot …“.He doesn’t deserve your nonsense bringing down his comment threads.”
“So please…allow me to retort. " This(King) post seems a response to your own CCRyder . Richt-O-Phillia (correction=Richtophilia) post.. One that Mr. K responded to and you rebutted in CC’s behalf. No response ever from CC. Curious? I addressed the same post. CC even praised my rebuttal per the whole " Richtophobe" meme. (Did you see what I did there S? a new word?)
"I actually want to compliment you because your posts over at DawgSports were very good. Some of the best arguments against us I have seen. Most people just call us Tech fans, or racists so that they can change the topic of discussion since they have no real answers. I must admit I baited a little to get you back over here as opposed to other blogs."CCRyder/sportsand grits. (I credit you with that quote CC…are you happy now?)
Apparently I am welcomed at your site( or at least CC’s site) but in your opinion … not here.
I leave that to Mr. King … and you sir can stick it in your ear. Read more …. post less.
http://www.hark.com/clips/twbfbmhfsq-let-me-retort
Good. “Now we can be friends again.”

by AthensHomerDawg3 on Jul 13, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a couple of points:

Mr. Sanchez is a regular commenter here, whom I have asked, on occasion, to provide commentary and dialogue in the form of fanposts. Because a fanshot posted here by Mr. Sanchez led me to the site he co-authors, I saw CCRider’s postings on Gary Patterson, to one of which I responded. The above posting is not a response to CCRider, per se, as I engaged in the same exercise last year, but, because the above posting concerns common topics of discussion, I linked to CCRider’s postings, which provide the contrary view. CCRider has responded to the above posting, but I am unaware of Mr. Sanchez having been a contributor to that conversation at Sports & Grits, unless he left a comment I did not see.

I see no need to sling mud at my fellow Georgia fans merely because they take a different view on issues over which reasonable people may disagree. The second part of this analysis (which will appear here at 12:15 tonight, and which was scheduled to be published before CCRider’s response, or Mr. Sanchez’s and your comments, appeared) specifically notes that it is unfair to question a Bulldog booster’s fandom merely because he raises concerns about the state of the program. I may think highly of myself, but I do not think so highly of myself as to suppose that I am in a position to question a fellow Bulldog’s fandom merely because he disagrees with me; to the contrary, I enjoy and wish to encourage spirited back and forth.

CCRider and I choose to take different approaches in confronting these questions, both in our styles and in our conclusions, but any fan, of Georgia or of any other school, is welcome here, provided certain basic civil guidelines are followed. Though Mr. Sanchez and I often have disagreed strongly, and sometimes have disagreed heatedly, he has never been uncivil here. While certain aspects of CCRider’s confrontational style might not be appreciated here, he is free to take whatever tone he deems appropriate at his own site, and I will attempt to meet him fairly without ad hominem attacks (though, admittedly, with a spirited historical jab or two).

You are welcome here, AthensHomerDawg3, and I have had no problems with your comments prior to this thread, but Mr. Sanchez invariably conducts himself reasonably around these parts, and I will not allow an attack on him to go unremarked merely because the attacker generally tends to agree with me more than the attacked does.

The form and tone your exchanges take at Sports & Grits is between Mr. Sanchez and you, and they are none of my concern. Here, however, I would be most appreciative if we could keep it a little more civil and a little more respectful. I thank you in advance for your cooperation. Carry on, everyone.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, . . .

. . . I do feel slightly honored to see Dawg Sports deemed “mainstream.” Who’d have seen that coming five years ago? :)

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't play favortites!

and consider the source.
Just sayin’

by AthensHomerDawg3 on Jul 13, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you kind sir...

and to clarify, my remark about “nonsense” was to both his outright falsehoods such as Richt’s contract ending after 2012, Auburn, Texas and Michigan, among others not running a “spread” in recent years, etc and the disrespectful style he comments over there (which I’ll admit, I am not above myself. But as you eloquently state, the tone and tenor of that blog is wholly unlike what you have here).

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 13, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently, you have ignored Mr. Kings request and now this is platform for you to further disparage me. I yield to Mr. King. What say you Kyle?

by AthensHomerDawg3 on Jul 13, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

well I never!

also…. quit ass kissing!
just sayin’

by AthensHomerDawg3 on Jul 13, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Liar ...liar ...pants on fire!

Really that’s all you got? My" falsehood" about Richt’s contract? I thought it was 2012 it is 2013! How do you ever win a case in court? MY Gosh…. Let me fix it for you …2X!

"According to calculations by Tim Tucker of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Richt would be owed approximately $5 million if he is fired after this season, with another $1.86 million as part of a longevity bonus. That’s a total of $6.86 million, which isn’t peanuts but is still considerably less than three times his salary ($8.7 million)."
SEC Talk( 10/08/2010 9AM), Richt’sContract[Msg 1]. Message posted to
http://groups.earthlink.com/forum/messages/00025.html

by AthensHomerDawg3 on Jul 13, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am hoping that I am not being singled out here for “poor behavior” —>The form and tone your exchanges take at Sports & Grits is between Mr. Sanchez and you, and they are none of my concern. Here, however, I would be most appreciative if we could keep it a little more civil and a little more respectful. I thank you in advance for your cooperation. Carry on, everyone..
 Sir, consider:
After all my post was in response to : “He(King) doesn’t deserve your nonsense bringing down his comment threads.” Where were you then? I take it that you and Mr. Sanchez are friends or at least have a professional/blog relationship. If you wanted to take umbrage with rude behavior it might have started with Mr. Sanchez. However, I seem to be at a disadvantage here. It’s your world here Mr. King. Do try and be fair.

by AthensHomerDawg3 on Jul 13, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're not being singled out for poor behavior, AthensHomerDawg3, . . .

. . . nor are you at a disadvantage, though I am sorry if it appears that way to you.

You began by taking a jab at Mr. Sanchez. He responded, and the worst that he offered in retort was the word “nonsense,” which I do not consider out of line. You went on for a while in reply, ending with, “and you sir can stick it in your ear. Read more …. post less.” He explained the “nonsense” remark, referring to “outright falsehoods,” a charge you answered.

Maybe I should’ve played ump a little more and warned both benches after letting both pitchers throw at a batter; if that was a misjudgment on my part, I apologize. I assure you that I am trying to referee this fight fairly, and I certainly don’t want to run off someone who’s trying to agree with me. However, Mr. Sanchez isn’t the one who keeps going on about it. How ‘bout this: everyone, refrain from personal attacks or take your personal spats somewhere else. I can’t get much more evenhanded than that.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evenhanded.

If I am to believe that I am not the only one being reprimanded here for boorish behavior I would be more secure in the knowledge that I wasn’t the only one Head Lining your disapproval. I seemingly can’t influence that and I wish to move forward.
Thank you.

by AthensHomerDawg3 on Jul 13, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then move forward we shall.

Consider it forgotten. Much obliged.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

But of course. I learned long ago that often it is all about standing and connection that rules the day. Clearly I have neither here or should I. However , in my defense… I like nanner pudding shakes too…..
just sayin’
;-)

by AthensHomerDawg3 on Jul 13, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am eternally grateful to Chik-fil-A

for releasing the banana pudding milkshake on the day that our appellate brief was due.

by UGAVike on Jul 13, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this would also be a good time to point out

A) That shot was 275 yards. Not 300.
B) You are ignorant and morally reprehensible
C) Ohio State has the toughest non-conference schedule in the country. It’s a fact
D) How many times have we punted? x15
E) *Ed Hardy Colone $15* Free Shipping!!!

/I did not just say any of those things that I just said.

"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone

by RedCrake on Jul 13, 2011 6:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Classic!

Xinyue123456 finds your humor amusing and wishes to compensate you for your jokes. Do you accept the paypals?

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't spent much time over there

But I don’t care even to visit again a world where it appears the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual [sic] Union [sic] would have been a preferable way to go about things.

by NCT on Jul 13, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

It's the concision I enjoy.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I never have heard of Mr Postero, so I looked him up.

I guess I just learned something cool.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

As soon as I finish working my way through this thread, . . .

. . . I’m going to go do the same thing. (No spoilers!)

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, man.

Part of the childhood memories of our trips to Athens for football games is the very distinct sound of his voice on the radio giving us the rundown of the week’s matchups. Surely there are archived recordings accessible on the Interwebs somewhere. Colorful stuff.

Ok, before I start to wax a bit too nostaligic … GET ME OUTTA HERE, PERCY!

by NCT on Jul 13, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

All right, now I've looked him up, . . .

. . . and thanks, Hogbody Spradlin. I never knew Leonard’s last name; “Leonard Postero” was twice as much information, but it was less than half as informative! :)

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

the use of other names for the mascots is your thing kyle, you just didnt happen to be as original as you thought!

Pope’s Pupils – that’s awesome. Giant water lizards…..love it.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

USA vs France right now

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

In a sporting event, . . .

. . . or did we invade?

If it’s women’s soccer, call me when somebody takes her shirt off.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

On FB with my cousin, she is very upset about those "male chauvinistic" type of comments.

It’s been everything I can do not to say something like “what’s wrong with that?” If not for the fact she has 100 very pretty girlfriends, I probably would. I guess that is kinda chauvinistic too.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least we arent like the French

We don’t make our players pose nude before we’ll pay attention. We just want em to flash a little sportsbra. Classy!

"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone

by RedCrake on Jul 13, 2011 6:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

um, just in case it came up as a conversation piece or something, where would said photos be?

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by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently it was a German newspaper

And the ratings in France went through the roof.

Also, I can’t speak intelligently on whether the picture were or were not sans armpit hair.

"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone

by RedCrake on Jul 13, 2011 7:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'll admit though...

while it may be questionable, the practice would certainly work wonders to raise interest levels.

Also, how many of y’all are now familiar that one of our players wears a pink sportsbra? Brilliant marketing for her.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 13, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes she is

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by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care what anyone says; . . .

. . . soccer will never be as popular in America as breasts.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truth.

"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone

by RedCrake on Jul 13, 2011 10:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tell her it's not chauvinism.

I don’t care about men’s soccer, either! :)

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why you gonna hate on Hope Solo like that?

Her brother was frozen in carbonite for your sins. Hasn’t she suffered enough?

/recycled EDSBS joke

by vineyarddawg on Jul 13, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, I so made the obvious joke ahead of you, . . .

. . . only I didn’t steal the obvious joke from EDSBS; I came up with the obvious joke all on my own!

(The fact that I am now independently coming up with the same jokes as EDSBS ought to cause Orson grave concern, because, if he’s becoming as unfunny as I am, he’s slipping!)

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope Solo says, "really?"

Also, this is a replay, not the live event, which was during my (2-hour) lunch break today.

by vineyarddawg on Jul 13, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

She loves me! I knew it!

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love you to Hope

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Her name

is the greatest name for a player which defines a position, ever.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jul 14, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

We just kicked their goalie in the face. And took out another.

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by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

turns out the women are worse than the men for their playacting injuries.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope Solo is a really damn cool name. I want a cool name, I have this stupid old english welsh name.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I hear that, if Lucas had made Episodes VII through IX like he originally planned, . . .

. . . Han’s and Leia’s half-Jedi daughter, Hope Solo, would’ve been the female lead.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, . . .

. . . I didn’t expect this to turn into a soccer thread! :)

(Seriously, does anyone want vineyarddawg to open up another dedicated thread?)

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sunday at 2... yes.

This seems to be working for now

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by RedCrake on Jul 13, 2011 7:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Will do.

Thanks. I need guidance on these things.

I’ll also need a reminder on Sunday.

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by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can set up the thread, if you'd like.

I said I wouldn’t, but if there’s popular demand, who am I do say no? :-)

Besides it’s a World Cup Final, which our men certainly won’t be seeing for a while…

by vineyarddawg on Jul 13, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just dont make me the Number Two. I will leave that for Rangers100.

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by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn't Number Two, . . .

. . . it was Number One Point Seven Five.

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by T Kyle King on Jul 14, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

What are you, a Romulan*?

 * – I did not just call you a Romulan.

by vineyarddawg on Jul 14, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

let me fix this for you:

Besides it’s a World Cup Final, which our men certainly won’t be seeing for a while ever.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just wanted to talk about ANYTHING other than what was above. Sorry, I wont talk about soccer anymore.

I was just using my thread altering mojo. Which also means the USA is about to lose to France.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry about it. You're fine.

I just didn’t see that one coming.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unlike Vine - I like US Women's soccer. It's nice to see us on a world stage actually competing well.

But, Vine is correct, this is a semi final and its on ESPN 2 and half the arena is empty and no one even knows about it.

But come on, you want our girls to beat French girls, right?

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean WOmenses.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, foosball

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mission Accomplished.

It’s now a tie and I need to log off and go in the basement.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell, France as a girl name Bompaster. That's a cool damn name too.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This sounds like something I need to watch . . .

. . . while I’m overly tired and working through the sugar rush from a Chick-fil-A banana pudding milkshake!

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle - nothing personal, but I pretty much hate any reference to Chick Fil A

Y’all don’t even know.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blasphemy

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 13, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahhhhhh

understood

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 13, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad, man.

I wasn’t trying to give you a hard time.

If you want, you can give me a hard time about, I don’t know, the fact that I’ll never see 30 feet of snow at one time.

Yeah, I know; it’s not the same thing, is it?

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

All they have here is restaurants, I have no idea why they don't have a chick fil a. It would kill.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like a franchising opportunity you should take up

because the naner pudding milkshakes are pretty tasty.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 13, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh did you not tell me

there is one on a nearby college campus??

I can bake like a demon.

by podunkdawg on Jul 15, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have to have a parking permit, and it isnt a full menu. it isn't a real chick fil a.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 15, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

What we need is a Wookie playing sweeper

"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone

by RedCrake on Jul 13, 2011 7:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Damnit USA you are on your ass

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by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Sunday morning.

Unless you’re talking about the 3rd place game.

by vineyarddawg on Jul 13, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks vine

I thought I heard them say Saturday.

And toad, sorry if i spoiled.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 13, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep, you did. It "looks" live. But now I can enjoy it without fear.

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by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Afternoon actually...

2:45 eastern, correct?

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 13, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's when the game kicks off.

ESPN coverage starts at 2:00. I should have my thread up at least by that time.

by vineyarddawg on Jul 13, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it would be midnight in Germany. Duh.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

USA USA USA

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

OMG - USA USA USA

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

this is when i dont like soccer -

why the hell would they do stoppage time in a 3-1 game. What is supposed to happen in 2 minutes?

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by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Stranger things have happened.

(Well not in this game. But in general.)

by vineyarddawg on Jul 13, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think its BS. USA legitimately went up 2 goals and held them off until 90 minutes. I hate stoppage time.

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by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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