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T Kyle King
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Huh?
We’ve won a National Title in both.
I’m confused.
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Our 2005 season was the last SEC champion who didn't win a national title...
Florida , LSU, Florida, Alabama, Auburn have won the SEC and national title in the subsequent years.
And since we lost to Fresno St, the College World Series has been won by LSU, and now South Carolina back to back.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 29, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And Florida is exempt from losing the CWS
Because they won a billion national titles in football, basketball, etc.
Got it.
Although, losing the CWS doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the other component…
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Good point on the Gators; my bad.
What I meant was, we won the SEC Championship Game in 2005, and, since then, every subsequent winner of the SEC Championship Game has gone on to win the national championship; and, we went to the College World Series finals in 2008, and, since then, every College World Series finals has been won by an SEC team.
I believe this proves that (a) my mental processes are not conducive to Twitter because my mind simply does not produce thoughts in 140-character increments, and (b) I am badly in need of my forthcoming vacation, as points like Jman781’s regarding Florida are slipping by me, producing much recent sloppiness on my part hereabouts. Truly my bad.
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by T Kyle King on Jun 29, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
No worries...
We generate more profit than any other SEC school (only 2nd nationally to Texas).
Thus, we’re winners in the world of business!
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"profit" =/= revenue
so that can be termed cheap/frugal as well.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 29, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fair point...
But only Alabama generates more revenue, and it’s close.
You’re right, UGA doesn’t spend as much as some other programs, but why should we? It’s not like we have players to buy.
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Stealing the article
Now let’s take a look at who the big spenders are:
Football Expenses
1 Univ. of Alabama $31,118,134.00
2 Auburn Univ. $27,911,713.00
3 Louisiana State Univ. $25,566,520.00
4 Univ. of Florida $24,457,557.00
5 Univ. of South Carolina $22,794,211.00
6 Univ. of Arkansas $22,005,104.00
7 Univ. of Georgia $18,308,654.00
8 Univ. of Tennessee $17,357,345.00
9 Vanderbilt Univ. $14,152,061.00
10 Univ. of Kentucky $13,905,724.00
11 Univ. of Mississippi $11,920,510.00
12 Mississippi State Univ. $9,951,097.00
Again, perennial contenders Alabama, LSU and Florida maintain their positions atop the list. However, take a look at Auburn, who ranks higher in terms of spending than revenue. Perhaps a foreshadowing of the 2010 season that was to come? And what about Georgia? They move from being the second highest in terms of revenue to only the seventh biggest spender.
In fact, Georgia brings in the most in terms of profits in SEC football because of their lower expenses relative to their revenues. Their profit was over $8 million more than the next highest school, Florida:
Football Profit
1 Univ. of Georgia $52,529,885.00
2 Univ. of Florida $44,258,193.00
3 Louisiana State Univ. $43,253,286.00
4 Univ. of Alabama $40,766,391.00
5 Univ. of Tennessee $39,236,601.00
6 Auburn Univ. $38,251,007.00
7 Univ. of South Carolina $35,471,948.00
8 Univ. of Arkansas $26,519,140.00
9 Univ. of Kentucky $17,984,848.00
10 Univ. of Mississippi $16,489,264.00
11 Mississippi State Univ. $4,600,178.00
12 Vanderbilt Univ. $0.00
Georgia isn’t just #1 in the SEC in terms of profits, they’re #2 in the entire country behind Texas.
If you do the math, Georgia is only putting 25.8% of their football revenue back into the program. Meanwhile, the 2009 National Champion, Alabama, was putting 43.3% back into their program, and the 2010 National Champion, Auburn, invested 42.2 percent. Is there perhaps a correlation between this and results on the field? Georgia went 7-5 in 2009 and just 6-6 in 2010. Comparing Georgia to Texas, who is the only school with bigger profits from football, the two are spending at about the same rate, with Texas putting 26.7% back into their program. However, Texas is spending $25,112,331 to Georgia’s $18,308,654.
I’ll also note that Georgia is second in the SEC in terms of overall athletic department profit at $11.7 million. Alabama, who posted the highest profits for its athletic department, is an outlier with a $44 million profit (more to come on that in a later post). Ole Miss presented a balanced sheet, so they show no profit in the athletic department. However, the other 10 schools posted an average profit of $5.4 million, putting Georgia’s athletic department at more than twice the average profit.
Can these 2009 numbers predict the future for Georgia? Take a look at the teams ahead of Georgia in terms of expenses (in the second chart above). In 2010, Georgia lost to every team they played who spent more than them in 2009: Florida, Arkansas and South Carolina.
Just some food for thought as we all spend the offseason pondering what went wrong in 2010 for our respective teams and what we can expect in 2011.
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011/01/26/whos-making-money-in-sec-football/#more-44
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Of note is how we are closer in spending to Kentucky and Vandy than we are to Florida...
evidence by uncompetitive packages/benefits for assistant coaches, extremely underfunded S&C, and other necessities to winning. And expenses mean little without knowing the revenue that pays those expenses. Doing the math of profit + expenses = revenue, we’re looking at around $70m there. Bama is there with us around 70, Florida and LSU seem to be around 68, Auburn 66, Tennessee 56. (Math done in head, so may have forgotten to carry a 1 somewhere). Basically what I’m saying is, I’ll take being middle of the pack in profits (which is still a hefty profit around $35-40m) if it meant 1-2 more wins and being at the top of the pack in production and resources.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 29, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully, that will change under the new regime.
Damon Evans was fond of referring to “unallocated resources”; e.g., profits, prompting aproposdenada to urge him to “come off of that cash pile.” Greg McGarity spent 18 years in the belly of the beast, watching Jeremy Foley make money, spend money, and build championship caliber (now runner-up caliber, but still) programs across the board. McGarity already has given Mark Fox a hefty pay bump, and some of the assistant football coaches have gotten raises, so I’m hopeful that McGarity will put that money to good use. You’re absolutely right, Mr. Sanchez.
Go 'Dawgs!
Agreed and as you said, and the old saying goes
gotta spend money to make money. A bump of between $5-10,000,000 of yearly expenditures (depending on the year and various construction project) could result in successes that bring in 2-3 times that amount (if not more) in revenue from merchandise, donations, etc.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
And in terms of expenditures as a % of revenue...
Alabama is spending around 44% of revenue by my count. Auburn 40%, Florida 35%, LSU 36%, Tennessee 30%.
Meanwhile Georgia is only reinvesting 25% of football revenue in to the program, a far drop off from our competitors at the top of the heap. Hopefully McGarity will change that and make the necessary reinvestments in to the program that keeps things running at top notch.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Business wise, if football makes the most money, you would think you would reinvest heavily.
As far as bama and what they spend, they are pretty weak in most all other sports. That’s their choice.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
That's probably why Florida, at 10% less of reinvesting
is a much better all around program. Unfortunately I don’t think our 20% smaller total means greater expenditures in other sports, but just used for whatever Adams wanted. I hope McGarity changes that fact.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
I'll be the contrarian here
I want to see more than raw spending numbers before feeling behind. How do coaching salaries compare? Training staff and facilities? Equipment?
We can afford to spend more and our peers are spending more both in real and percentage terms, but I won’t really feel like we need to spend more unless Richt can’t get it done this year. If he goes, I am all for blowing the top off of the bank and buying our way to dominance.
by first and thom on Jun 29, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Well -
First, Nick Saban makes more than all other HC’s combined.
Our facilities, now, are first rate.
I dont think paying more for a HC gets us anything at this point.
Coach Bobo, however, well, we can’t give him away. This is the one area we should spend some money and get a guy. Sure, we may lose him after a few years, but thems the breaks.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
by tankertoad on Jun 29, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Precisely.
Having coordinators getting hired away to be head coaches, and having position coaches getting hired away to be coordinators, is a good problem to have. In terms of the ability to make good hires, it’s the equivalent of putting guys in the NFL regularity and using that fact on the recruiting trail.
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Coaching salaries are ok...
unless McGarity has stepped it up though, the benefits and compensation aside from simple salary is woefully behind from what I’ve been told (retirement, etc).
Staff and facilities are beginning to come around, but before recent changes and improvements were also woefully behind.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
what the heck????
y’all trying to take the CMA exam with me?? This is exactly the kind of stuff on that test!
I can bake like a demon.
An SEC team had to lose that one though
so Kyle should have probably put in the qualifier of excluding those who lost to fellow SEC members.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 29, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
In 2002, we only lost to Florida in football. Additionally, in 2007 we only lost to Tennessee and South Carolina. Does that make us exempt from not winning the National Championship in football in 2002 and 2007?
No.
Thus, no free passes for the Gators. They don’t need your advocacy ;-)
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Were those losses in national championship games? Difference.
Not a pass for the lizards, I’m trying to excuse our kind hearted host.
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Thanks, Mr. Sanchez.
Yeah, I just plain blew it there, Jman781. No excuses; you’re right, and, although the point I was trying to make was fundamentally correct, the way I stated it was factually wrong, which is my fault. An SEC team has lost in the College World Series finals more recently than Georgia has, and the fact that it lost to another SEC team doesn’t change the fact that I was mistaken. My bad.
Go 'Dawgs!
As I said...
No worries.
This is my favorite UGA blog because of the heightened level of discourse. The plethora of information combined with impeccable wit from the posters/commenters on this site makes many other sites seem droll and lacking.
You’re allowed a free pass. Plus, I’ve seem much worse posted on Twitter. (We can all be grateful it wasn’t a Twitpic of you parading around in gray underoos.)
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At least when he posts that pic
we now know who to blame. Thanks for planting the idea jman.
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