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"Remain Calm! All Is Well!": How to Panic Proportionately About the Eligibility of the Georgia Bulldogs' Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Jarvis Jones

As Bard Parker brought to our attention, the Nike-sponsored and city-funded Columbus AAU basketball team may have put the eligibility of Georgia’s Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Jarvis Jones in jeopardy. Reportedly, the top two fellows in the Parks and Recreation Department had control over an unauthorized bank account used to provide improper benefits for athletes who played for the Georgia Blazers.

(At this juncture, I feel a rant is in order. First of all, when is the last time you heard an AAU program mentioned in any context that wasn’t sleazy? At best, AAU programs surface in media reports in ways that make the reader feel slightly dirty, producing squirms of discomfort regarding the thin grime of implicit impropriety that appears to coat everything about the enterprise; more often, those three initials appear the way Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s similarly-abbreviated New Deal "alphabet agencies" were noted in U.S. Supreme Court decisions prior to 1937---which is to say, solely in circumstances in which the three-letter organization in question is about to get slapped down. Also, the Parks and Rec Department, for crying out loud? Has proximity to Auburn caused Columbus to be poisoned by the steady seepage of unethical conduct from the (morally) Ugliest Village? Were it not for the fact that the Lowell of the South produced both Henry Benning and Doug Gillett, I’d be ready to let East Alabama annex the Fountain City.)

That said, it’s not yet time to panic. The Bulldogs are doing their due diligence, so there’s no reason to expect the worst. By that, of course, I mean there’s no specific reason particular to this situation that has yet been brought to light which would cause us to expect the worst; as Georgia fans, though, we have very good general reasons for anticipating that whatever can go wrong, will go wrong, but, hey, at least we made it as far as June 26 before getting any news so bad that it made the denizens of Bulldog Nation roll their eyes, slap their foreheads, toss up their hands, and yell, "You have got to be kidding me!" in response to this latest cruel twist of fate, which, when you think about it, is itself an encouraging development.

The potential consequences are as ominous as they are obvious. Mark Fox’s two best Bulldogs now are L.A. Clippers, and the Hoop Hounds’ hopes for avoiding a slide back to the pack after last year’s NCAA Tournament trip hinged in no small way upon the arrival of Caldwell-Pope upon the scene. As Kris Willis noted, the absence of so solid a scorer from a three-guard lineup could cause the Red and Black to stumble out of the gate, struggle to find their rhythm, and end up behind the eight ball early against another daunting non-conference basketball slate. Among the benefits alleged to have been received by Caldwell-Pope was the payment of a portion of his mother’s $280.90 cell phone bill.

More worrisome still are the reports regarding Jarvis Jones, who is said to have received $828.40 in improper benefits in the form of flights between Atlanta and Los Angeles. Not only was the price tag heftier, but I previously identified Jones as a versatile rising star in the Georgia linebacker corps.

This much is certain: precedent does not favor the Bulldogs. We learned from last year’s suspension of A.J. Green that proportional penalties for the Red and Black are not probable. We learned from one of Auburn’s more recent run-ins with the NCAA that AAU improprieties are attributable to the schools that benefit from them. (Come to think of it, maybe there’s just something in the initials "AU" that corrodes the integrity of the bearer of that abbreviation. Those two letters also form the chemical symbol for gold; perhaps their employment works an ethical alchemy that transforms the user’s moral fiber into lead.) Moreover, if Mark Richt is called upon to mete out a player suspension, there is absolutely no doubt that he will levy it immediately, with no concession made to the importance of the first two games on the fall schedule.

It is not yet time to panic. However, practicing panicking so you’ll be ready when the time comes wouldn’t be the worst idea in the world. On the plus side, at least no one was arrested, so we’ve got that going for us.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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soooooooo

is the AAU somehow connected to the university? or is the provider of the “improper benefits” not restricted to those connected with the university in some way?

I can bake like a demon.

by podunkdawg on Jun 26, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

i understand

that I would be construed to be an agent of the university since i’m pretty sure a quick search of my activities at dawg sports would prove that I “promote” the UGA football team. But I’m not understanding this AAU thing……..

I can bake like a demon.

by podunkdawg on Jun 26, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The AAU is not connected with the University of Georgia, or with any university.

However, the AAU serves as (read: exists as a flimsy pretense for the sole goal of serving as) a conduit for funneling prep players into major programs. (By way of example, UCLA just hired an AAU coach from the Atlanta area to be a basketball assistant in Westwood, and the Bruins shortly thereafter received a commitment from a big-name Atlanta area recruit. This was not believed to be coincidental.)

The bottom line is that the precedent is there: fellows who work with the AAU will be treated as boosters for purposes of player eligibility. If the story checks out, both players will lose playing time due to suspensions. Fair or unfair, right or wrong, that’s the way it is.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jun 26, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a quick question

How does Jones’ issue effect us, since from my understanding his eligibility with USC would have been in question, due to being “funneled” there.

by blackertai on Jun 26, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not really that he was being funneled

It’s that he allegedly took money (plane ticket). That makes him ineligible for everybody until some sort of restitution is made at the very least. It doesn’t matter if its benign or shady. If your aau coach pays for your moms insulin, its still a no no.

by Mark Mandingo on Jun 27, 2011 12:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

so if i get this right

AAU coach = Booster = Agent and at the end of the day, if an athlete gets any $ of any variety for doing anything whatsoever, it’s an improper benefit because everyone knows he only got that $$$ for being an athlete, which means, athlete’s can’t have jobs, and probly their parents cant have jobs either since that would be an improper benefit right? I mean who knows if the parent only has that job because their kid is an athlete. If the parent’s cant have jobs, they’ll have to go on welfare, but I guess that can’t get that either, it must be an improper benefit somehow right?? I mean they get money that way, and they don’t work for it, so it must be an improper benefit. So at the end of the day, the only ways to avoid being declared ineligible by virtue of the “improper benefit rule” is to be jobless, homeless & starve to death, you and your entire family, be independently wealthy (likely from some inheritance that i’m sure we could find a way of declaring an improper benefit) or – don’t be an athlete. Yeah I’m sure that’s the NC2A’s purpose right?

I can bake like a demon.

by podunkdawg on Jun 27, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get your frustration

and it is a fine line sometimes, but not here. We all give the ncaa a lot of crap, deservedly so. But even if they were the most competent organization in the world, they still have a next to impossible job.

And I get your rant. Sometimes it doesn’t seem like they have the best interest of the athletes in mind (and sometimes they don’t). But you joke about parents getting jobs and benefits, BUT THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS. So they do have to keep an eye out for things like that.

Bottom line, if you don’t believe in paying players, you’ve gotta be strict. If you believe in paying players than all this wouldn’t really be a concern in that world anyway (Although if they did this when they were still active on a high school team, my guess is they’d lose that eligibility. I’m sure a lot of you high school ball nuts would know more than me about it.)

In a related note, and I don’t want to turn this into a “to pay or not to pay players” discussion, I don’t want to pay players. But when I hear that Auburn (and their probably one of many schools that do it, including us maybe, I don’t know) pay their hostesses, the tigerettes, for doing their thing, it’s getting hard to keep that position. It does sound pretty stupid to say that you can’t pay student athletes, but you can pay students to help recruit those athletes. That’s stupid and when I found that out it really made me begin to rethink my whole position on things.

by Mark Mandingo on Jun 27, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh i know

that parents getting jobs really does happen, and mostly i’m simply taking the extreme position out of general frustration with the whole thing. However, my extreme position isn’t all that out of the realm of possibilities, and ultimately, I do think players should get a stipend of some sort – many many college scholarships for non-athletic reasons offer stipends, or at least have a “de minimus” provision (cuz you know even the IRS has that). If you include stipends, then doesn’t a whole lot of this nonsense go away thus making everyone’s life easier, and the process simpler to manage?

I can bake like a demon.

by podunkdawg on Jun 27, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

IRS

I had to pay federal income tax on my academic scholarship money — or more accurately, my father had to pay the federal income tax for me. That still ticks me off.

by NCT on Jun 27, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

IRS Definition of income

unless we specifically say it is not income, it is income.

I can bake like a demon.

by podunkdawg on Jun 27, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that book

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 27, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

weird

i pulled an EIC from it

by Caban on Jun 27, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm.

Maybe Dad pocketed the credit. (I’m sure he did not.)

by NCT on Jun 27, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

More than likely

his income exceeded the prescribed limits and he did not qualify for EIC, but because you were a dependent on his income, you did not qualify on your own – I suspect Caban was an independent taxpayer rather than a dependent child of a taxpayer. But it’s just a guess.

I can bake like a demon.

by podunkdawg on Jun 27, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds reasonable.

And likely. I’ll defer to your expertise.

by NCT on Jun 27, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if Jarvis and Kentavious

went ahead and took out a couple hundred in student loans, they could immediately pay back the account and petition for eligibility?

I’m just trying to understand the process since the offense wasn’t by an agent of the University.

by UGAVike on Jun 27, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it's from an AAU coach, it depends...

if your name is Myron Piggie, and the kid you paid off went to Duke, it’s all cool. If you’re Myron Piggie, and the kid went to UCLA or Missouri, you’re screwed.

Isn’t the NCAA punishment of rules fair and simple?

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 27, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends because

under federal student loan rules (for those kinds) – money can only be spent for valid educational expenses, which do include buying a new computer or putting tires on the car you use to commute to school. If however, these are “private student loans” (which i never ever ever recommend) i dont think those same rules apply.

I can bake like a demon.

by podunkdawg on Jun 27, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will repeat my comment from Bard Parker's thread:

.

I can’t [redacted] handle this [offensive noun]. These NCAA [persons who perform acts that are illegal in some states even if consensual] can [perform acts that illegal in every state even if consensual].

Rules are rules, and I acknowledge that he has never been convicted of any wrongdoing, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all of Cam Newton got a job at the NCAA compliance office during the NFL lockout.

by first and thom on Jun 26, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Not a good day.

I’m sure that if a suspension comes down from the NC2A, they’ll do so rationally and proportionately just like they did with AJ. I’ve already begun steeling myself for their wrath.

And, we lost another OL player today. Good luck to young Mr. Benedict. Don’t know your reason for leaving, but if your injuries were too much to overcome I hope you’re successful in whatever you decide.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jun 26, 2011 10:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

However...

if this little piece turns out to be true, I reserve the right to retract my sentiments of goodwill.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jun 28, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for the comment and for the awesome Emma Stone quote

/head slap – why didn’t I think of that one? The great thing about the SEC is that we can all agree on hating Florida.

or more colorfully for Ms. Stone on a related Florida condition.
/clap clap clap

Hey, bad guys. Look up in the sky. See the UAV? Nope? We see you. "Don't laze me, bro'!"

by memphispete on Jun 28, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Money Trail.

Man, I wonder how he got the specific amounts. Those are some pretty specific price tags. Money trails are hard to cover up. Yall should be ok in the end. Its just one player. With your 3-4 defense you should have at least 2 other guys who could take his spot.

by redheadcheme on Jun 27, 2011 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

actually i'd say we caught a break

At least we’re finding out now. Just imagine if Jones was lighting it up and this broke in October. There wouldn’t be time to figure it all out so even of he’s clean he wouldn’t be in uniform while they sorted it out. Not to mention the consequences to the season if we found out in October that he wasn’t clean. Same goes for caldwell-pope. All things considered we might have dodged one. Innocent or guilty, its better in June. Bright side.

by Mark Mandingo on Jun 27, 2011 12:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Well, if it would have been discovered in October during a break-out season...

… we could have just all buried our heads in the sand, claimed ignorance, and screamed that we were ALL IN.

by vineyarddawg on Jun 27, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Would these be the funds distributors mentioned?

"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav

by otisnixon'sparty on Jun 27, 2011 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought about going there.

In retrospect, I can’t come up with a particularly good reason why I didn’t. Nice job.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jun 27, 2011 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

When I saw that you hadn’t it was like walking down the street and finding a $20 just sitting there.

"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav

by otisnixon'sparty on Jun 27, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, it's falling, just you watch...

it’ll fall soon enough. And where will you be? Underneath a large chunk of fallen sky, that’s where.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 27, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bah.

Humbug.

"Insert witty and/or funny quote here" ~ The Person Who Spoketh Said Quote.

by Jman781 on Jun 27, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Question(s):

Jarvis Jones played several games for USC, correct? And just because the NCAA is just now finding out about it, UGA may have to suffer? If he is suspended this season, nothing happens to USC? Because that seems to fly in the face of the logic used for coaches, i.e. the punishment is of the institution, and does not follow the coach.

It’s not that I think the NCAA actually follows some form of logic – as we all know, “Each case is unique, and deserves its own consideration”. But has this situation ever happened before? Is there any precedence at all?

by NOLADawg on Jun 27, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

to be fair

And I think a lot of people are misunderstanding this, as far as I know nobody is saying usc had any more to do with this than we did. It doesn’t seem like a case of usc funneling money thru the coach. The coach just paid for his trips out there. So with the information right now, its not usc’s fault and they’ll suffer the same penalty as us by not having Jones on he sidelines. Assuming this is all true of course.

by Mark Mandingo on Jun 27, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

I definitely am not trying to blame USC for this. My question is more about the impact of when the transgression is discovered. If the NCAA finds Jones to have done something wrong, will he be suspended for 4 games this year AND USC will have to vacate wins for having played an ineligible player? It seems like the punishment would depend too much on the timing of discovery, making that much more important than the actual crime itself.

As I said, I don’t necessarily believe there is any particular logic the NCAA follows, but I guess I’m just hoping USC takes the brunt of the punishment so we don’t have to.

by NOLADawg on Jun 27, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hear what your saying

And I agree that the age of trying to guess penalties based on precedent pretty much ended last November. But at the same time I don’t think the ncaa is going to punish either school. We are getting screwed, but by Jones (again, assuming its true). So if usc has to vacate some games, I think its not going to factor into Jones punishment. If nothing new comes out, I’d guess what everybody’s saying, 4 games and restitution. I would bet that they give usc a break. And I have no problem with that.

by Mark Mandingo on Jun 27, 2011 2:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Vol fan reading for interest - not stone throwing

T Kyle King, we may fundamentally disagree about schools of choice, but I enjoy reading your work (except when you are skewering the Vols).

You are absolutely right about corruption in the AAU ranks. It is so tainted and so thoughly corrupt that it seems unfair to single out one institution in cleaning it up. It’s rather like throwing the book at one illegal immigrant who crossed the Texas border and ignoring the other 15 people on the van. Or the 30 guys on foot just down the road.

We seem to have learned our lesson on the character front – Martin and Dooley are quality people and a distinct shift away from the kind of coaches who have me standing in the doorway of a glass house without rocks in my hand. (Oh, and at least one of our new coaches has a great family….)

Hope it doesn’t go badly for you because of this issue. Great piece.

Hey, bad guys. Look up in the sky. See the UAV? Nope? We see you. "Don't laze me, bro'!"

by memphispete on Jun 28, 2011 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

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