What Must be Done to Ensure the Health of the Uga Mascot Line?
When Uga VIII went to his reward in February, concerns were raised in the ensuing comment thread about the health of the mascot line, given the brevity of the last couple of bulldogs’ reigns. At the time, I questioned whether it was appropriate to discuss such matters, but, since Uga VIII has been laid to rest and a suitable interval has passed (and since I am on something of a hiatus, anyway), this may be the proper moment to ask why our mascots have had such short lives lately.
Two years ago, British Kennel Club breeding standards for bulldogs were revised in an effort to address the many health problems encountered by the breed, which include orthopedic and respiratory difficulties. Being from this side of the Atlantic Ocean, of course, Uga and his progeny adhere to American Kennel Club breeding standards, but even the AKC sets goals our recent mascots only partially have met:
The perfect Bulldog must be of medium size and smooth coat; with heavy, thick-set, low-swung body, massive short-faced head, wide shoulders and sturdy limbs. The general appearance and attitude should suggest great stability, vigor and strength. The disposition should be equable and kind, resolute and courageous (not vicious or aggressive), and demeanor should be pacific and dignified. These attributes should be countenanced by the expression and behavior. . . .
The size for mature dogs is about 50 pounds.
While Uga certainly exhibits most of those sterling qualities, "vigor and strength" have not typified recent Georgia mascots, who have been large and lethargic. Uga VIII tipped the scales at 55 pounds, ten per cent heavier than the AKC says a mature bulldog should be, at the time he was introduced as the new mascot at the age of 13 months. It is evident from the progression from Uga I to Uga II to Uga III to Uga IV to Uga V to Uga VI to Uga VII to Uga VIII that the Georgia mascots have gotten progressive larger, perhaps dangerously so.
Equally obvious, though, is the fact that the Sonny Seiler family, for whom Uga is not just a mascot, but a beloved pet, cares deeply for these bulldogs and acts in what the owners sincerely believe to be Uga’s best interests, in adherence to the established breeding standards for the kennel club with which the line is registered.
Is it time to introduce some fresh blood---literally, as well as figuratively---into the Uga line? Is it time to adopt the British breeding standards, to loosen the requirement of a spotless white mascot, to appoint a Vice Uga, or to give Magical Munson Woods a chance? Your thoughts go in the comments below.
Go ‘Dawgs!
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The UGA line reminds me of the Habsburgs and other European royalty.
Sooner or later, that demand for purity of the blood line is going manifest itself in bad ways.
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Time to get "healthy" dogs
With all due respect to the Seilers and their extended family, I think it is time to start looking elsewhere for dogs. I don’t think any rational fan is super worried about having our mascot a direct descendant of the other Ugas. Heck, I would prefer an English Bulldog that can run around the field or end zone, rather than crawl between the dog house and his bag of ice. Yes it is “cool” to keep the same line, but at the expense of the health of the dogs, and the health of the image of the university, I think we should at least evaluate other options. I would pose the question over the neccesity of the dogs even being “all white.” Is this something that the DawgNation is truely behind, a demand rather than a preference? It doesn’t matter to me, and I would like to know what everyone else thinks. I am just tired of only getting negative publicity around the news outlets regarding our animal mascots.
I'm not dog-breeding expert...
But are they using male and female dogs from the same blood-line to breed? If so, can’t they just inject fresh genes into it with a new dog to make up half the breeding pair and still claim that its a descendant? Surely there are plenty of all-white bulldogs scattered around that they could breed them with.
To the extent factors must be balanced ...
Health and longevity must trump bloodline and color. I don’t know if those are choices that must be made, but if they are, I firmly believe that no amount of risk to health and longevity should be carried to preserve lineage from the original Uga and pure whiteness.
Take the Brits' Bulldog standards seriously....
they take dog shows as seriously as we take college football.
by Wonderful-Ohio-On-The-Gulf Dog on May 5, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions
I hesitate to jump into this nest of landmines...
… but to me, the most notable change from the previous line to the most recent 2 Uga’s has been their energy level. I mean, Uga V was famous for regularly roughhousing with Hairy Dawg all the time on the sidelines, and I don’t have to remind anyone of his most famous energetic moment.
Uga’s VI, VII, and VIII all seemed much more lugubrious on the sidelines; content to perch themselves inside their doghouses (or on top of their ice packs) for virtually all of every game.
I would feel much more confident about the next Uga, whomever he is, if he has an energetic, friendly personality instead of a somiferous, aloof air.
I'm with you part of the way, Pablo24.
I think it’s important that Uga remain a lineage mascot, but I don’t think it’s important that he remain monochromatic, and, like mbrd71, I don’t think maintaining the bloodline requires inbreeding.
While I know the policy on color has nothing to do with racial matters, it always makes me wince whenever it is mentioned that Uga represents a tradition of being all white at the University of Georgia since the mid-1950s. It’s coincidental, I realize, but it’s bothersome, nonetheless. Besides, a brown spot here or there didn’t detract from Russ in any way that matters to the fan base, and, as noted above, other qualities are much more important in a mascot than being solid white. I know of no one who would choose a short-lived pure white mascot over a mascot with a brown spot on his back or ear who reigned for a decade.
Magical Munson Woods, while being too young yet to ascend to the throne, is a part of the Uga bloodline; basically, if a dog has papers tracing his bloodline back to a previous Uga, he’s part of the bloodline. I’m perfectly all right with a great-grandson of Uga VI becoming Uga IX, even if he isn’t the grandson of Uga VII or the son of Uga VIII. Bringing in fresh blood—-literally, rather than merely figuratively—-makes good sense genetically, and, if his ancestry is traceable back to an earlier Uga, his claim to heirship is legitimate, even if the degrees of consanguinity are greater in number. They’ve gotten British monarchs that way, haven’t they?
In short, I believe we are able to have our cake and eat it, too, if we allow the line to branch out, enabling us to take advantage of the benefits of greater variety in breeding while still taking our mascots from the same family tree, albeit from more distant branches.
Go 'Dawgs!
If I'm not mistaken about this, we could copy the rule for thoroughbreds...
maintaining the blood lines just means males, so females can come from wherever keeping the inbreeding away.
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Exactly.
Here’s the way I look at it: if you’re trying to trace a bloodline from my grandfather, you can get it through me, or you can get it through my first cousin, but we’re both grandchildren of my grandfather, so we’re both a part of my grandfather’s bloodline, and to the same extent.
I apologize if, by using that example, I suggested in any way that I was of comparable importance to Uga.
Go 'Dawgs!
"They’ve gotten British monarchs that way, haven’t they?"
So we’re going to import a dog from Germany?
/House of Saxe-Coburg’ed
Actually, I think the first Saxe-Coburg monarch of Britain didn’t have to be imported, as he was the son of the last Hanover, which house had been imported from Germany in the early 18th century, because (at least in part) big ol’ Anne couldn’t have any babies. But Anne herself was the daughter of some imported Dutch couple, if I’m remembering correctly, who took over because a century of Scotsmen couldn’t keep the sh!t together after QE1 wouldn’t have any babies (and dipping into Catholic Spanish cousins was unthinkable).
by NCT on May 5, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
For what it's worth, I ran that by my wife, the AP European history teacher, . . .
. . . who (generally) gave it her seal of approval, though she had minor quibbles over Anne (several of whose 17 pregnancies resulted in stillbirths rather than miscarriages, so, technically, should could have babies, just not live ones), Anne’s parents (one of whom was Dutch, the other of whom was English), and the Stuarts (some of whom she’s pretty sure were English rather than Scottish). Still, that’s better than I usually do, so kudos!
Go 'Dawgs!
Well, it was a quick, off-the-top-of-my-head recount.
I’m pleased I got reasonably close. Pre-Tudor, I have some trouble and get confused by Shakespeare’s liberties. I still can’t remember which of red and white go with Lancaster and York, and every time I think of Richard III, Richard Dreyfuss in Simon’s The Goodbye Girl comes to mind, and something-something Lionheart and Robin Hood. BUT, get me as far back as the 11th century, and I can tell you more than you needed or wanted to know about too many things one man’s bug is another man’s feature the life of William the Bastard (who became le Conquerant) and his wife the Proud Mathilda of Flanders (daughter of Baudoin), as I spent a few months in school en Normandie. Which prompts me to observe that William himself was imported from France and was only two or three generations removed from Norse Vikings.
And why don’t people name their daughters Ælfthryth any more?
by NCT on May 5, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
(“imported from France” might have been a generous characterization.)
by NCT on May 5, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose that would be one way to put it.
I’m just pleased that we’ve managed to turn a thread about canine husbandry into a discussion of European monarchy through the centuries.
by MaconDawg on May 5, 2011 8:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, when one talks about inbreeding, it is the most natural analogy to use.
I mean, think about it… the Queen of England can draw her ancestral tree from both the Saxon and Norman leaders of the Battle of Hastings in 1066, Robert the Bruce of Scotland, and the old Celtic Scottish royal famlies.
And Queen Victoria was the longest reigning English monarch, but her eldest grandson was Germany’s Kaiser Wilhelm of World War I infamy. Not only that, but her direct great-grandchildren include both Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip, along with the current kings and queens of Spain, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.
It's also a cautionary tale.
We don’t want Uga ending up like those Windsors, do we . . . or like Pee-Wee Herman from that “30 Rock” episode?
Go 'Dawgs!

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