The HBO Special I Hate Auburn Open Comment Thread
A little over a year ago, Lane Kiffin bolted Knoxville in the dead of night, prompting a raucous comment thread that occurred while DavetheDawg was asleep. Dave was so dismayed that he e-mailed me his cell phone number and told me to call him if anything like that ever happened again. I promised him I would do so, but I pointed out that nothing like that had ever happened before, so he shouldn't hold his breath.
Tonight may prove to be one of those comment threads, but this hardly qualifies as the sort of thing that has never happened before; Auburn is the dirtiest program in SEC history, which is saying something, in light of SEC history. However, when HBO is set to air a special excoriating the Plainsmen for their wicked, wicked ways, well, that deserves a dedicated comment thread.
Toss the popcorn in the microwave and get your hate on while the Tigers get Gumbeled. Enjoy the Auburnfreude in the comments below.
Go 'Dawgs! Auburna delenda est!
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So, what you're saying is...
everyone owes all of this to little ’ol me?

You still really, really like me!
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
That story about you giving Kyle your number...
…Is possibly one of the funniest things i’ve read on here. Love it. I’m even tempted to give my number for such an occasion. Or maybe we just just send out a mass text to all the dawgs, to assemble and confer on big news worth shootin’ the breeze over.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
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by Southern Dawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not that much of a whippersnapper...
and Sally Field could stop a clock in the day. Mmm Mmm Mmm.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I almost get the feeling that tonight's expose
will be an anticlimax. Since I can’t watch, I’ll be interested in the body language, tone and tenor of all the payees. Sometimes, insincerity is a difficult thing to mask, especially when you have the heat of a 1000W television Fresnel lamp in your face. And Andrea Kramer’s eyes piercing your soul.

My God! Stop staring at me I’ll tell you everything!!!!
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
Yeah, after all the build up...
… anything short of a video showing Bobby Lowder giving a swedish massage to Cam Newton while simultaneously handing money to his father during the middle of a church service at which Cecil Newton is preaching about the evils of money will be a letdown.
And what the heck is that? She looks like the daughter of:

by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
A year ago -
Kyle said “best post season ever”. Until Evans got arrested and AJ got introuble.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
by tankertoad on Mar 30, 2011 9:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Off seasons
scare me about as much as hurricane season. Is this the year of the big one? Ironically, the peak of hurricane season pretty much coincides with the end of the off-season…that’s when the risk seems to be the greatest.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
Yeah, I wound up changing that . . .
. . . to “wackiest offseason ever,” or something along those lines. Which it was.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Mar 30, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Also on at 10pm tonight
is the McDonald’s High School All-American game on ESPN, so those of us without HBO can tune in to watch Kentavious Caldwell-Pope tear it up.
Here is a link to the rosters.
Representing the SEC are 1 future Dawg, 1 future Gator, and 4! future Wildcats.
if there was a hall of fame for sports blog posts
that 2006 post is a shoo in first ballot entry.
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I feel an update . . .
. . . coming in the near future.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Mar 30, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I do not have access to HBO
so I will depend on this open comment thread and the likely WWW firestorm tomorrow. It is truly a sad day for the SEC and college athletics in general.
feeling sad implies pity
of which i have none.
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I hate jerks who blindly repost what they've posted in other threads...
… so let me do that here.
As much as I love laughing at Auburn’s misfortune, I seriously harbor a secret fear that this could be the thing that takes the whole college football world (in other words, the SEC) down hard.
I would like to think that Georgia’s program doesn’t do the "thousand dollar cash envelope" thing anymore, mostly because of the leadership we have at the top of our program, but I can’t say that I 100% believe that it doesn’t happen.
I am personally convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that UGA boosters have, in the past, passed cash to players who outperformed in games when I was in college. (I had a good friend with solid secondhand knowledge of the act itself.) Now, however, with the hyper-compliance atmosphere surrounding the program (with which I have firsthand experience), I would like to think such underhanded deals don’t happen. I can’t say that I’m convinced it doesn’t happen without the athletics department’s knowledge, though.
My point is that if it can happen at Mark Richt’s Georgia, then it’s happening everywhere in the SEC (ok, probably not Vanderbilt). And if it’s happening everywhere in the SEC, we stand just enough of a chance to be worried about of suffering the fate of the Southwest Conference.
hush you
tonight we feast on schadenfreude. tomorrow we worry about the rest.
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You know that we're not all Bama fans, right?
/not wise to poke the Bama fan
//poking anyway
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
we are brothers in hate
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On this point, there can be no debate.
Down with the Tiglesmen!
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
death to the plainseagler!
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To Hell with Auburn...
Burn the whole thing down, and their oak trees.
AU is very close to overtaking Florida as the team I hate the most…
"I will fly in the greatness of God as the marsh-hen flies, In the freedom that fills all the space 'twixt the marsh and the skies"
-Sidney Lanier, Poet and Writer from Georgia
by SurferLucas on Mar 30, 2011 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
See, I think it makes them easier to hate less than Florida.
Everybody knows Auburn are a bunch of dirty rotten cheaters. It’s almost makes them pitiful now that they’re being called on it and getting all “All In” and defensive about it.
Florida, however, kicks our ass and (as far as we know) does it relatively cleanly. That makes them even more hate-worthy.
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm....
I’ve always hated Florida, and I made the mistake of dating a girl that went to UF (yes, I was young/dumb/stupid) and that made me hate them more.
I think the reason why I’ve been loathing AU so much lately is the blatant “YOU’RE ALL HATERS” and “We’re all in”. It’s one thing to be a cheater and own up to, but to be cheaters and act like “your poop smells like fresh cinnamon rolls”, that’s when I take issue with it.
"I will fly in the greatness of God as the marsh-hen flies, In the freedom that fills all the space 'twixt the marsh and the skies"
-Sidney Lanier, Poet and Writer from Georgia
by SurferLucas on Mar 30, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If the preview I've read of this episode is accurate...
… it says that Rich Rodriguez will be one of the guests who will be wailing and gnashing their teeth about all the rules being broken in college football today.
Now if that won’t be quality comedy, I’ll be sorely disappointed.
Good evening
Just finished a round at Augusta National on Tiger Woods ‘12 and now I’m ready to feast on schadenfreude.
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this better be good
i deliberately purchased hbo for a month just to watch this show.
I can bake like a demon.
I hear "Gigli" is on this weekend...
so there’s that!
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my god...
… they got the commissioner of the Ivy League to talk about college football.
I have no words.
Bryant Gumbel always has that smug look on his face
Bugs the hell out of me.
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ok. why billy packer?
SRSLY
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Mike Shula
should pay house Tyrone Prothro and give him a healthy stipend for all eternity.
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-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Athens
Have to get my ticket order in tomorrow. Don’t forget, everybody.
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RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!

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"Forever and throughout the universe?"
So, is this the Stargate or Star Trek NCAA that we’re talking about here?
I'm confused:
Upper left: Mikael Gorbachev
Upper right: Cedric the Entertainer
Lower Left: Pete Rose
Lower Right: Michael Adams’ brother “Big Leo”
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
So, if Georgia is the SEC program of highlight before they get to Auburn...
… when are they going to get to Damon Evans?
what are they showing?
highlights from when we used to play defense?
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
They're basically pointing how much of an idiot Michael Adams is...
… then showing highlights of Georgia football while talking about other programs.
I don’t like where this is going.
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought this was
supposed to be about Auburn players getting paid dang it
I can bake like a demon.
worse
interviewing Adams with facts like 55% graduation rate for Georgia football players and 38% graduation rate for our Basketball team.
I can bake like a demon.
Yeah, what happened to the APR numbers that were 2nd best in the SEC behind Vanderbilt?
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is..
I hate Bernie Goldberg so much that his grilling of Mike Adams actually makes me want to empathize with Adams. CONFLICTED FEELINGS!!!
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(presses Jeopardy button)
What is, “Because he’s the best example of a hard-hearted jerk in the entire universe, Alex?”
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus...
I just hope we can avoid further embarassment…like them not showing our official “School Promo” video.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course
Rich Rod has to talk about the value of the education they receive………..but he wants to add a stipend of 300 – 400 per month for the kids.
/sad that I agree with the concept of a stipend as presented
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lol... Rich Rodriguez comment basically was:
“I’d like to pay players more, but not too much… just enough to cover expenses.”
So, is that before or after the monthly beer tab, Rich?
Is Andrea Kramer topless yet?
It is HBO…
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
Whitlock threw RichRod a great line, I'll give him that.
He practically yelled at him, “DON’T WIN ENOUGH GAMES, YOU GET FIRED.”
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, the first sign that you know this is a horrible panel...
… is that Jason Whitlock and Billy Packer sound like the reasonable ones.
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Meanwhile...
The East leads the West 13-10. Caldwell-Pope not on the court yet. This guy has an unbelievably deep 3-point stroke.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
And florida recruit
Brad Beal has most of the East’s points. The Beal v. Caldwell-Pope matchup will be a classic for as long as both are in school.
So, just to recap...
… when a guy hands you $500 as part of a handshake, that’s called a “money handshake.”
/The More You Know
See, the girls thing isn't as big a deal to me.
College-age girls seek out BMOC’s and want to have sex with them. This isn’t unusual.
Poor me...
I was only 5’8" in college.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope they're not coached...
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair point
but usually a person who is lying has a “tell” of one variety or another.
I can bake like a demon.
Breaking News....
from Team Speed Kills.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
Mother of....
Audemus jura nostra defendere
Every day we make it, we'll make it the best we can.
by animalcracker on Mar 30, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Auburn connection?
The NCAA, according to sources, is also examining Lyles’ relationship with Sean Nelson of Thibodeaux, La., whose own relationship with top football prospects has been scrutinized by the NCAA. Last month, NCAA investigators interviewed former Thibodeaux High School coach Dennis Lorio about Auburn’s recruitment of receiver Trovon Reed and offensive lineman Greg Robinson this year. Reed signed with Auburn last year; Robinson signed with the Tigers in February.
h/t RollBamaRoll
Just more stuff on top of stuff on top off stuff…
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-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
that's NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP WINNING morally bankrupt institutions
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by kleph on Mar 30, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Somebody needs to tell the Ivy League guy that women don't play college football or men's basketball.
At least, not since Gary Barnett sexually assaulted that girl in Colorado.
/Yay, mixed up facts
Oh i we hate Abuurn...Let us count the ways
So have i missed anything that i haven’t already read?
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
RichRod HERPing a DERP.
But, other than that, not really.
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool
don’t have HBO so not getting to enjoy it with my own eyeballs.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
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by Southern Dawg on Mar 30, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
This whole show feels like...
… they got the Andrea Kramer 10-minute piece, said, “Holy crap we’re sitting on a gold mine here,” and came up with a show to put around it in about 20 minutes. And that 20 minutes included finding the panel for the show.
That's the magic of television...
typical newscast contains about 5 minutes of “news”, the rest is filler, banter and kicker stories (fluff pieces). Drivel.
IT’S ENOUGH TO MAKE SOMEONE WANT TO CHANGE CAREERS!
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget the weather guy.
Talk about boring filler… er, I mean riveting television!
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
down here?
I’d say it’s pretty much 95% boring “same as yesterday” filler. The other 5% is sheer terror.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who watches weather men?
i get all my weather stuff from online. or weather.com
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
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by Southern Dawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Me, too.
Except I look at computer models. And Jim Cantore can suck it.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
DtD is a weather man in real life...
… so I pander to him as often as I can.
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of which...
… I got your message, Dave. I haven’t responded yet because I’m a forgetful, slow person. Sorry about that.
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
no worries...
I’m a retainer of trivia, hyperactive type.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
well...
former weatherman….pending the Glenn Burns Border Swap.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah i know he is...
I was taking sarcastic shots at him (internet dead pan sarcasm fail)
In all seriousness if they could just explain why i had a whole 2 weeks of nice 60 degree spring weather (up here in louisville, KY) before going back to the 40-50’s this week i’ll kiss the man’s feet. I HATE THE COLD!!!!!
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
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by Southern Dawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I will say this
I agree with Rich Rod that the kids should get a monthly stipend – i just think that’s a no brainer.
I agree with Whitlock that a cash bonus upon graduation with a marketable degree is a damn good idea.
I agree that there is a point at which that kids likeness is his likeness and the NCAA ought to have to pay him to use it.
Finally, i’m kind of weirded out that I agree wtih them at all.
I can bake like a demon.
So, I guess it was a bit anticlimactic after all?
what did y’all take away? Sincerity? Worthy of an investigation? Thumbs up or down?
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
I didn't see any swedish massage or member of the Newton family...
… so I am bitterly disappointed.
by vineyarddawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
And I guess
Andrea Kramer didn’t reveal her jumblies, either. C’mon, HBO. It’s 11:00 P.M. Where’s the skin?
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Mar 30, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I gather that some of you were underwhelmed.
Nevertheless, an update to the infamous “Auburn deserves the death penalty” posting cited above is scheduled to appear here at a quarter after midnight.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Mar 30, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
by the Panel Guests,
yes they were underwhelming.
There’s no real smoking gun type proof, but, I felt like the kids were credible and really – does the NCAA need more than 4 kids to say the same thing as proof?
I can bake like a demon.
I didnt watch the whole thing because the Gumbel brothers frighten me
So maybe I missed it… but how do you do that piece and not mention the Cam Newton shenanigans/investigation?
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by RedCrake on Mar 31, 2011 1:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
$4K for a player's performance in a single game?
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a backpack full of money?
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permitting a culture of permissibility for boosters to capitalize on?
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lying to NCAA investigators?
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plying recruits with sex on official visits?
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selling game memorabilia for profit while playing?
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the involvement of an Auburn official on at least one payment to a player?
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multiple offenses by a program during a period it was on probation by the NCAA?
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