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Tennessee And Tech Hire New Basketball Coaches, Pray For "Fox Effect."


Georgia Tech appears to have hired Dayton coach Brian Gregory to replace the ever-underwhelming Paul Hewitt. Jeff Schultz gives them the skewering he normally reserves for all things Bulldog-related, and Tech fans over at Stingtalk are reacting in their usual measured manner (Stingtalk logic: so unassailable that it need not be spelled out in the form of premised argumentation. Subtle, nuanced barbs about how the other guy "sucks" will do just fine).

Despite my fondest wishes, it's likely not the worst hire in the world. I was pushing Ron Jirsa, but I fear I might have seemed a bit transparent in my motives. But as we sit here today, it damned sure doesn't look like the best possible hire either. Gregory led the Flyers to a 7-9 record and 8th place regular season finish in the Atlantic 10 this season, a deflating effort after the team beat North Carolina last season to capture the NIT title.

Taking an A-10 team to the NIT title is a pretty impressive accomplishment. He did it once, it's entirely reasonable to believe he could do it again. But if you're going to hire a midmajor guy, you want someone who's shown he can do it year in and year out, developing successive classes of players. Gregory hasn't been terrible at Dayton, but he hasn't been Gonzaga's Mark Few or Butler's Brad Stevens, either. Those guys have shown a gift for taking the big schools' sow's ears and turning them into a succession of silk purses. The jury's still out on Gregory in that regard.

I find the hire particularly interesting given what most of the Tech fans I know had been telling me about the hire. It was pretty widely assumed that Tech would go after a young up and coming coach and that private donors had finally put up enough cash to allow Tech to shop fairly freely. This hire doesn't seem like the kind of hire you make when you're serious about putting your ACC basketball program back on the map. Rather it seems like a decent hire designed to right the ship. Georgia Tech basketball has had a dark clound hanging over it for a couple of seasons now, and getting rid of Paul Hewitt was the first step back into the sunshine for Jacket fans. If Tech fans were looking to move forward, they could do a lot worse than Gregory.

Tennessee has likewise filled it's opening, securing the services of Missouri State's Cuonzo Martin. Martin led the Bears to a 26-9 record in 2012, culminating in a second round NIT loss to Miami. Last season his team captured the CIT championship in his second year on the job, turning around the 11-20 record of his first season. Martin also played and served as an assistant at Purdue under legendary coach Gene Keady, reputed to have run among the toughest practices in college basketball.

Tennessee still doesn't know exactly what the NCAA will do about the messy Bruce Pearl era, so it's entirely possible that, as Joel at Rocky Top Talk put it, 2011-12 will be "year zero" in a slog back to where Vol fans want their program to be. But Martin will probably try to instill the same philosophy he learned at Purdue under Keady and brought with him to Springfield: stifling, physical defense and aggressive rebounding from every player on the court. Depending on how things shake out Martin is either walking into a very difficult job that he may or may not be up to, or he's walking into a plum situation left by a guy who was amazingly stupid to screw it all up. Only time will tell.

While neither program made a "splash" hire, it's impossible to say yet that either is a bad hire. Remember that if Damon Evans had his way we'd now be coached by the recently unemployed Jeff Capel rather than Mark Fox. I think we did ok on that one. And that's what has to happen when you go searching for a new coach and you're not a top five national program. When you have an NCAA investigation hanging over your program, or when you have a limited budget. The vast majority of college basketball hires are like these. That is to say, there's an element of risk involved. Sometimes the risk pays off, sometimes it doesn't.

Ultimately, Dan Radakovich and Mike Hamilton are asking their respective fanbases to trust them, which is asking a lot given their recent histories.

Until later . . .

Go 'Dawgs!!!

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I feel justified right now in that when Evans was looking...

I blasted Capel as a horrible hire, and was clamoring for Sean Miller (although it was likely a year too late for him to be in our range) and mostly Brad Stevens.

I think Martin is the better of these two hires, in that he’s young enough to have potential after putting in time during whatever the NCAA throws at them.

Gregory on the other hand, seems good enough to be fired for Tech. He’s a Herb Sendek type hire. Can give you consistent results around the .500 variety, and certainly be a better team than what Hewitt has produced of late, but he will never get Tech to a high level of success like say a Mooney from Richmond might have (they are saying he cost too much). Both lack local recruiting ties, which should be a huge boost for Fox’s make or break 2012 class. But Gregory not only lacks recruiting, but he’s been at Dayton long enough he should have at least one NBA product (he doesn’t), and some NCAA success (which he also doesn’t). They could have done a lot better, as I said when Gregory’s name came up prior to Fox’s hiring.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 28, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree...

I like both your and MaconDawg’s assessments.

I think both hires are—in a non-Mr. Sanchez-or-MaconDawg-well-written-analysis way: meh. That’s good enough (or bad enough) for me.

While some are trying to compare the Gregory/Martin hires to the Fox hire, as you, and Kyle on another thread, point out, Fox had success at the big dance and put at least two players into the NBA (that I know off-hand).

That said, anything can happen.

I am bi-winning. I win not only here but also there.

by Jman781 on Mar 28, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the # from Nevada is 4...

Kirk Snyder, Nick Fazekas, Jevale McGee, and Ramon Sessions have spent varying amounts of time on NBA rosters. McGee and Snyder were first round picks; McGee and Sessions have had the most success.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 28, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

"He’s a Herb Sendek type hire. "

I think that’s a good way of saying it. Gregory’s a good coach, but I see nothing in his resume that makes me think he’ll build a consistent winner on North Avenue. The Jacket faithful want a perennial Sweet Sixteen team, and I don’t think Gregory’s the guy to deliver that. He could, but it’s far from a foregone conclusion. Given my choice between the two like you I’d definitely take Martin.

I do really like the Mike Anderson hire at Arkansas, by the way. If he can get his recruits in there and get a couple of big wins early, he could really get things rolling. Really, who in the SEC West is a demonstrably better coach than Anderson?

by MaconDawg on Mar 28, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnson has been successful until the last two years at LSU...

I’d put him on Anderson’s level though. I like Kennedy although his results have always been lackluster. And Stansbury has had spurts of excellence in Starkville. Barbee seems at least a threat recruiting at Auburn, as is Grant. I agree there is none demonstrably better, but I don’t think Anderson is demonstrably better than they are, even though I do love 40 minutes of hell type systems.

I don’t see how he has a better recruiting base for Arkansas than he had for Mizzou, or better facilities since the Tigers get a more than generous enough cut of Walton family money just like the Hawgs. And while Mizzou was a consistent NCAA team, they weren’t really much more than that. All teams want a “perennial Sweet Sixteen team”, as that’s probably the best you can ask for: perennial Sweet Sixteens with occasional forays into a Final Four. I think Arkansas is no different, and they may start shooting his horses too if he can’t get them to that level.

To end this long ramble, I think Nolan’s bad blood on the way out has me a bit surprised Anderson goes there, but I’ve also heard Anderson will be fully vested in their state employee retirement system before he’s done thanks to 17 years on Richardson’s staff; and something like 75 or 80% of a $250,000+ base pay is a pretty good incentive.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 28, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhat related (not really)...

But if you actually stuck by your promise of having UK bow out in the first round your bracket(s) gotta be worse then even the bad ones right?

by JRod1229 on Mar 28, 2011 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

But I did have UConn in the Final Four.

And they can never take that away from me. Of course, I had Kansas to win it all and that was taken away in wrenching fashion yesterday. Fortunately for me none of the other folks I know had VCU and Butler in the Final Four, so I won’t win, but I’ll at least show.

by MaconDawg on Mar 28, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

My worst bracket ever...

5 Sweet 16, 2 Elite 8, 0 Final Four.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 28, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delightfully noncommittal. I can't see any other way to be about either hire.

The only thing I can offer is that our community at RTT was sweating ice cubes when it looked like Gregory was going to be our hire. It threadjacked this post if you’re curious. For a brief while, when we didn’t really have any information on Cuonzo, our one shining hope was that he wasn’t Gregory.

Not that it means anything, so tifwiw – that UT fans would much rather have Martin than Gregory. And time will tell if we were right or horribly wrong.

by David Hooper on Mar 29, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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