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Georgia Bulldogs v. Washington Huskies: The Haphazard Ill-Informed NCAA Basketball Tournament Preview

Dance anyone?


Mark Fox (March 13, 2011)

So, what do you want to know about the Georgia Bulldogs’ first round NCAA Tournament opponent, the Washington Huskies? You know, other than the fact that they also have an SB Nation weblog with the word "Dawg" in the title? (No, they don’t pronounce "Dawg" like we do; they spell it that way to emphasize the "W." Yes, that’s as silly as it sounds.)

The Huskies field arguably the Pac-10’s most talented lineup, led by the "cold-blooded" Isaiah Thomas, whose buzzer beater gave Washington the conference tournament title. Knowledgeable SEC basketball fans are impressed with U-Dub’s athleticism. Last year, the Purple and Gold made a run to the Sweet 16, and, in this year’s opening matchup, they will try to force a "program on the rise" to play their up-tempo style.

The Fox Hounds can’t afford to let the Huskies do that to them. A Sea of Blue’s Glenn Logan explained it to me this way:

The first thing that stands out about the Huskies is their guard play. . . . Freshman Terrence Ross has moved into the starting 2-guard spot, and he is a dangerous shooter, as is point guard Isaiah Thomas. . . .

The Huskies really like to get up and down the floor, but Georgia has the athletes to slow them down if the 'Dawgs get back in transition. Washington has some good big people as well as guards, and they have a number of really good athletes. One place where Georgia is going to be a bit disadvantaged is that almost all the Huskies can get their own shot and score, where Georgia's scoring tends to be concentrated more toward offensive execution and getting the ball inside to Price and Thompkins.

You don't want to turn the ball over against the Huskies. Not only are they awesome in transition, but they absolutely take care of the basketball. . . .

Georgia will need to control the tempo, as the Huskies love to fly around the court, and play at one of the highest tempos in Division I. If the 'Dawgs can keep the pace deliberate and possessions at or below about 64, I like their chances. Defensively, Washington has a small point guard and Terrence Ross is not a good defensive player yet, and I think if Robinson, Ware, and Leslie take their time and don't get suckered into a track meet with Washington, your more experienced players can hang with them. Washington will block some shots, so it's important for your big people to be looking for that. A blocked shot can often lead to an easy basket, particularly if they are blocked in defensive rotation, like most of UW's will be. Get the ball back and somebody will be open.

I can't emphasize enough how important it is for the 'Dawgs not to get into a track meet with these guys. . . . Georgia has to make sure that their guards rotate back on every missed shot, and send only your bigs to the offensive glass. . . .

Where Washington wins a lot is on the offensive glass. They are big, athletic, and can rebound like crazy, so defensive rebounding is critical against this team, but Georgia's thickness and size will help them against the thinner Huskies. Washington plays above the rim, so it's really important for your big people to block out soundly on defense. Conversely, Washington is not a very good defensive rebounding club and Georgia is a very good offensive rebounding team. So if the 'Dawgs can beat them in the offensive rebound war, it will put you in a good position to win. . . .

Washington is not an execution team, and if your defense can force them to execute on offense or sucker them into challenged shots, more the better. But take care of the glass, do not share the ball with them, and get back fast in transition.

Yeah, I really can’t top that, but I feel I should try to contribute something, so follow me after the jump if you feel so inclined.

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One of the factors that got Georgia into the tournament was the Bulldogs’ lack of bad losses. The eleven setbacks suffered by the Athenians were sustained at the hands of the second-seeded Florida Gators and Notre Dame Fighting Irish, the fourth-seeded Kentucky Wildcats, the fifth-seeded Vanderbilt Commodores, the sixth-seeded Xavier Musketeers, the seventh-seeded Temple Owls, the ninth-seeded Tennessee Volunteers, and the Alabama Crimson Tide, who earned a No. 1 seed in the NIT. Although Washington’s out-of-conference losses were to fourth-seeded Kentucky, the seventh-seeded Texas A&M Aggies, and the tenth-seeded Michigan St. Spartans, the Huskies’ defeats in Pac-10 play came at the hands of the fifth-seeded Arizona Wildcats, the play-in game-bound USC Trojans, and four other teams who didn’t make the field of 68.

Those four teams were the Oregon Ducks (who finished the season with a 16-17 overall record), Oregon St. Beavers (11-20), Stanford Cardinal (15-16), and Washington St. Cougars (19-12). The Cougs beat the Huskies twice, and all five of U-Dub’s league losses came at the hands of clubs that finished at or below .500 in conference play.

Through March 12, Washington led the Pac-10 in scoring offense (83.5 points per game), scoring margin (+13.1), field goal percentage (.471), rebounding offense (39.3 rebounds per game), assists (17.2 per game), and three-point field goals made (8.8 per game), but the Huskies ranked seventh in the league in rebounding defense (34.7 rebounds per game allowed) and eighth in scoring defense (70.4 points per game allowed). Georgia ranks third in the SEC in field goal percentage allowed (.396) and defensive rebounding percentage (.683), second in rebounding defense (33.0 rebounds per game allowed) and rebounding margin (+4.7), and first in assists (15.2 per game).

So, what are the Bulldogs’ chances of beating the Huskies? Well, Chris Mottram picked against the Red and Black, but he’s not a Georgia fan. John Berkowitz expects Washington to win a close one. Although Andrew Sharp has Washington as his sleeper team, ten seeds historically have enjoyed a 40 per cent success rate in the first round, and Mark Fox-coached teams are 2-1 in the first round of the NCAA Tournament.

Coach Fox has become so acclimated to life in Athens that it is easy to forget his Western roots, but, as SurferLucas noted, Coach Fox was an assistant coach in Seattle for two years, and he spent nine years on the staff at Nevada. Prior to landing the Georgia job, Coach Fox’s easternmost career outpost was in Kansas, where they tend to take their basketball pretty seriously. While the Wolf Pack never crossed paths with the Huskies during Coach Fox’s tenure in Reno, his Nevada clubs carded three wins over Pac-10 teams in his five years as head coach.

Though the two programs have history in the Women’s College World Series, Georgia and Washington have never met in men’s basketball. In fact, coming into the 2010-2011 campaign, the Bulldogs had crossed paths with Pac-10 teams on the hardwood on just eleven previous occasions, losing eight of those meetings.

How big a deal is this game? Georgia has not recorded an NCAA Tournament victory that still remains in the record book since March 16, 1996, when the Bulldogs defeated the Purdue Boilermakers in Tubby Smith’s first year in Athens. (You remember Tubby Smith, don’t you?) I’d say 15 years is a long time to go between wins that count on a major sport’s biggest stage; it would be nice if I didn’t have to be writing a year from now about how it’s been 16 years since the Red and Black carded such a triumph. Let’s go ahead and get it out of the way this year, shall we?

Unfortunately, any home region advantage the Fox Hounds might have enjoyed by virtue of facing a team from the Pacific Northwest in Charlotte, N.C., effectively will be negated by the contest’s 9:45 p.m. start time on Friday. The game will be broadcast on CBS.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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Just an excellent post

I think you captured the essence of the challenges both teams will face on Friday night.

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by John Berkowitz on Mar 15, 2011 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Excellent post! Good links!

By my screen name you can see I’m a Husky away from home.

First, I’ll say again you are posting a quality column. In addition the GA folks that are choosing to post on the UW blog are both insightful and polite. Thank you all.

I’m surprised you do not have more traffic; GA is pretty serious about college sports, where are your fans going?

Regards,

by HuskyInExile on Mar 15, 2011 4:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Our basketball fans are more concentrated on our losing Gym team and amazing Softball team.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Mar 16, 2011 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, both of you. We're looking forward to a good game on Friday.

HuskyinExile, we haven’t yet established enough of a winning tradition in basketball to get our fans on board for thinking of the winter as a season unto itself, rather than as the lacuna between the bowl games and spring practice. We’re getting there, but it’s the offseason as far as site traffic is concerned. I promise you we’re working on it, though.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Mar 15, 2011 7:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Trey and Jeremy (in particular)

have got to stay out of early foul trouble. Jeremy has a recurring habit of compounding easy missed-layups with an immediate foul by slapping at whoever just grabbed the rebound. We have got to have some production from him and for JP to finish off those close-in shots that we not falling against Bama.

GR2 did a great job against Tu Holloway of Xavier…for a half. If UW’s Thomas is to be contained, Gerald is going to have to be relentless.

This game should be very close. Can’t wait.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Mar 15, 2011 7:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Does that funny little radar thingy

let you read minds? I have been thinking the exact same thing since the matchup was announced. Scary, for you not me.

by EricBDawg on Mar 15, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to get that radar

thing to predict lottery numbers. And I mis spoke about Tu Holloway earlier. The bulk of his points were the result of F/Ts late when we had to resort to fouling. GR2 actually did a great job defensively that night.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Mar 15, 2011 11:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree on the pace issue, and....

put my thoughts on the matchup (which I think favors Washington) here.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/2011/03/huskies-vs-bulldogs-didnt-mike-vick-go.html

I think we don’t control pace and get up tempo, where they tire us out and superior depth is an advantage. Plus, we just don’t guard the perimeter well, and I think their shooters will be able to go off. I wish I could follow my heart here and say our boys will be playing Sunday, but my head is calling my heart a homer and an idiot.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 15, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

We need a big game from Jeremy Price.

To be more specific, we need ten points or more from Price. I posted this in an open thread the other day, but I think it bears repeating. In games where Price has scored ten or more points, Georgia is 13-1. In games where he’s had nine or fewer, we’re 8-10. In the game against Bama the other day, Price had six points and missed atleast four lay-ups in the truest sense of the word. If Price makes just two of those four shots, he’s in double digits and we win the game. It’s important for us to get double digit scoring from our most important big man. As Price goes, so go the Dawgs.

by hailtogeorgia on Mar 15, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Game, set,

“I think if Robinson, Ware, and Leslie take their time…”

Match.

by D.N. Nation on Mar 15, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Because they've shown they do that so well...

of the 3, Ware has shown patience, Robinson and Leslie not so much. That worries me, because their play so far this season shows they can easily be fooled into turning up the tempo, and they often get out of control and turn it over when they do push the pace.

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 15, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope these guys...

have been locked in a room and shown the last 7:33 of the Bama game. They simply lost their composure and started forcing as you stated. Don’t mean to kick a dead horse (insert dead horse .gif here) regarding the Bama game, but that was just symptomatic of how we’ve lost every game when we had a lead.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Mar 15, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I look at Charlotte as the Alpha and the Omega

I was at the last NCAA 1st round game in Charlotte. We lost to UTChattanooga. We lost our coach (Tubby Smith). We lost our minds (Hired Jim Harrick). We lost our integrity (with Jim Harrick.) And lost our ability to compete ( with Felton in the aftermath of Jim Harrick.) I like to think if that game was the beginning of the Dark Ages, this game will be the end.
Toying with going, but a little afraid.

by hbtd on Mar 15, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Ultimately, I think the analysis for me boils down to one fact:

In the 2010-2011 season, we’ve beaten the teams whom we were supposed to beat, and we’ve lost to the teams to whom we were supposed to lose.

According to the seeding numbers applied by the NCAA, we’re “supposed to lose” to Washington, so my guess is that I’ll be looking at RedCrake very cynically late Friday night/early Saturday morning.

by vineyarddawg on Mar 15, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Were we supposed to beat Kentucky? Were we supposed to beat Tennessee in Knoxville?

by NCT on Mar 15, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Touche, NCT.

We have pulled off a limited few upsets… you are correct. We beat Kentucky back at the start of the SEC schedule, though, so really only the Tennessee win counts in terms of recent form.

by vineyarddawg on Mar 15, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll send you the extra Makers Mark

It’ll atone for my sin and help ease your pain.

"If there's one thing worse than chlamydia, it's Florida." ~ Emma Stone, Easy A

by RedCrake on Mar 15, 2011 5:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

CBS' Eric Angevine:
Most likely upset: Georgia over Washington. Yes, the committee has taken heat for including the Bulldogs in the field, but that has more to do with who else got left out. Mark Fox definitely has some scary players to work with in Travis Leslie and Trey Thompkins. The biggest (well, smallest) thing standing in the way of that possibility is 5-foot-9 Huskies point guard Isaiah Thomas, who may strip the ball from Gerald Robinson often enough that neither of the Bulldogs’ stars ever gets it.

Also, an interesting comparison of Georgia and U-Dub can be found here.

Outside of points scored and points allowed (question: does the Pac-10 play defense in any sport?), the overall season stats are very comparable.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Mar 15, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

"more to do with who else got left out . . ."

In other words, if Alabama basketball fans (of which there were 5 this time last year) had been on board the Titanic, they would have blamed the people who scrambled onto the lifeboats rather than the ship line that didn’t put more lifeboats on the ship. Either that or the pesky iceberg, which was clearly put there by the Aubbies.

by MaconDawg on Mar 15, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Iceberg makers are H8TRZ.

And the north Atlantic was just a sea full of H8TRZ who were gunning directly for the Alabama Titanic.

by vineyarddawg on Mar 15, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It isn't so much a defensive issue

as it is pace. We try to get transition baskets as often as possible, leading to increased points for and against. A lot of the teams in the Pac-10 play pretty fast as well such as WSU, UA, Cal, and Oregon. I think it makes games more enjoyable to watch than the typical Big-10 slug fest.

Kenpom has us as the 42nd best defensive team using defensive efficiency and Georgia as the 43rd best. It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out on Friday

by UW11Bowdown on Mar 16, 2011 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

After visiting the UWDawgPound,

I’m wanting more and more to emerge from the first round of the tournament victorious. That’s not to say that I didn’t want to win to begin with, but after visiting over there and seeing several people refer to the Huskies as the “Real Dawgs”, refer to us as “the pups”, and see us be roundly dismissed as an easily dispatchable team, it’s making me really want to beat them just to see them eat crow. One poster predicted a UW victory of the going away variety. Seeing as how I haven’t seen any team beat Georgia “going away” this year (including two number two seeds who needed to go to double overtime), pardon me for not expecting it against the Huskies either.

I’ll make it clear that I haven’t had any unpleasant interactions at the other SBNation blog with “dawg” in the title, but a lot of them just seem a bit cocky. I’d love for us to knock them down a notch or two.

by hailtogeorgia on Mar 15, 2011 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing like a little surveillance in the enemy camp to get your fired up, huh?

Just want so badly to win that game and get a shot at kicking some Tar Heel ass! (I am sure it would not cross their mind to check out the chat here.)

by hbtd on Mar 15, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, as smack goes, it's been pretty tame.

They won their conference tournament and are a higher seed. I’m not all that bothered by what I’ve seen over there. And they assume, correctly, that our girls are hotter.

by NCT on Mar 15, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just posted a little history over there

which might help clear the air. Hey, they’re a proud fanbase and it’s their site…so whatevs…

But, yeah, beating the Huskies would be sweet. Hell, I’m just happy we’re dancing*.

*in no way is this a depiction of DavetheDawg…however, the dancer does appear to be wearing UW colors.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Mar 15, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't worry about it, hailtogeorgia.

They’re the higher seed, they’re the favored team, and they’re entitled to think they have the better team. Hopefully, what happens after tip-off will change that perception, but, until then, I don’t begrudge them their confidence, however misplaced I hope it turns out to be.

I have always found the “pups” stuff to be especially silly and weak as a rip on the Red and Black, particularly coming from a team with another canine mascot, and, as for which of us fields the “real ’Dawgs,” well, we’re the ones who pronounce it that way, and our university began holding classes in 1801, 60 years before their university was established.

If it’s any consolation, though, our Oregon blogger has written some classic anti-Washington smack talk, which will be posted here later in the week.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Mar 15, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

We also have "dog" in our mascot name

And when the national media says “How ’bout them Dawgs?,” at least 95% of the time (if not more) they mean UGA.

by The984 on Mar 15, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Kyle, OK I've tried to be a good guest here.

Please spare me the Duck fan Quack Attack.
If you feel compared to post that crap, please add two caveats:
1. overall long term UW/UO records
2. a link to one or more of the many sites that have critiqued Duck fans . . .

Best Regards,

by HuskyInExile on Mar 17, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Howdy "hailtogeorgia"

I’m a UW alum from ’70’s, and you guys were ’Dawgs," before we were. We adopted that during the great Don James run, sadly probably from some terrible pop music tunes that were playing at the time.

Anybody making sure bets on this game is a fool, if only because our talented Huskies have NOT always shown up and played w/ consistency. And we have no muscle inside besides MBA (long hyphenated name I never spell correctly). and we’ve been poor FT shooters lately.
BUT
UW also has several very talented atheletes, and most of us would love to see a track meet.

Chances are any overconfident Husky fans you’ve met online are blustering as much for themselves as for you . . . :-)

Most of the mascot exchange I’ve seen so far has actually been very tame, and largely tongue in cheek. UW adopted Husky mascot from Alaskan Gold Rush; we’ve always been ‘dogs," if not ’Dawgs.’

As an aside, if you ever get the chance to attend a Husky home game, blow a few bucks and book a pre-game trip on a boat delivering you to the dock on Union Bay. It really is the prettiest setting for college football anywhere.

Best Regards,

by HuskyInExile on Mar 17, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

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