2012 SEC Football Schedule Analysis: Where the Georgia Bulldogs Won, Lost, and Drew
by T Kyle King on Dec 28, 2011 12:01 PM EST
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PrintSome time has passed since the release of the 2012 SEC football schedule, which has allowed for a bit of reflection, producing the following observations about the Georgia Bulldogs’ upcoming slate:
The Saturdays following road trips are manageable. Georgia plays at Columbia, Mo., on September 8, and faces non-conference patsy FAU at home one week later. Georgia plays at Columbia, S.C., on October 6, and has an open date one week later. Georgia plays at Jacksonville, Fla., on October 27, and faces Ole Miss at home one week later. Georgia plays at Auburn, Ala., on November 10, and faces Division I-AA opponent Georgia Southern at home one week later. Apart from the fact that the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party follows the Bulldogs’ road trip to Lexington, Ky., the Red and Black should find the weeks following away games fairly easily negotiable.
The points at which Georgia catches particular conference opponents present a mixed bag. We don’t know the opponent Mizzou will face one week prior to opening SEC play against the ‘Dawgs, but Florida will host South Carolina, Kentucky and Ole Miss both will travel to Arkansas, and South Carolina will travel to Kentucky on the Saturdays prior to those teams’ respective showdowns with the Classic City Canines. On the other hand, Auburn is scheduled to take on Division I-AA McNeese State and Tennessee is slated to tussle with Terry Bowden’s Akron Zips seven days prior to their respective tilts with the Red and Black. Vanderbilt’s September 15 opponent is listed as “TBA.”
The loss of the pre-Cocktail Party open date is a wash, no better and no worse. Neither combatant gets a bye before traveling to Jacksonville. Florida has the tougher October 20 opponent, but the Sunshine State Saurians get the Palmetto State Poultry at home, while the Classic City Canines must venture forth to the commonwealth to take on the Bluegrass State Bobcats on the road. The ‘Dawgs aren’t worse off than the Gators going into the Gateway City, but they aren’t better off, either.
The 2012 Bulldogs are the Rodney Dangerfield of the SEC. Bill C.’s comments following his posting at Rock M Nation indicate that he is more worried about a road game against the Gamecocks than he is about a home game against Georgia; I would respectfully suggest that a glance at Mark Richt’s record in true road games might be in order for our new friends from the Show Me State. Alabama fans are buying into the Georgia “soft schedule” meme, and Kentucky fans show respect for the preservation of the Third Saturday in October while ignoring entirely the Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry. South Carolina fans have anointed the Bulldogs the winners, and the Gamecocks the losers, of the schedule wars. Aside from Ole Miss fans already conceding defeat and Florida fans noting the aforementioned loss of the open date, we’re getting no respect. The theme of the season for the Red and Black next autumn needs to be the plot of “Caddyshack.”
Go ‘Dawgs!
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The level of smug coming out of Tuscaloosa is unbelievable
I hope Saban retires soon so they can go back to wallowing in mediocrity like they were for the better part of the last two decades. There is nothing more obnoxious than a Bama fan when they’re winning.
Sic 'em Dawgs
by ClassicCityDawg on Dec 28, 2011 12:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Except for Florida fans when they're, uh... existing.
by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I couldn't agree more... unless you add GT in the mix!
by cgros on Dec 28, 2011 1:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
What game before FLA?
I’d argue that based on the talent level of UK… it IS an open date. Thesr aren’t your Rich Brooks’ Wildcats anymore…
by cgros on Dec 28, 2011 1:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
well, there is a standard we strive to uphold.
Remember the Rose Bowl: The Story of the Alabama Crimson Tide & the Grandaddy of Them All
No kidding
Bama fans are ridiculous. Over Christmas, my cousin (a Bama “fan” but not a Bama alumni – as are most Bama fans) told me with a straight face that Saban was “clearly” a superior coach to Richt. Granted, Saban does have 2 national titles, but he’s not “clearly” a better coach. Richt could have a National Title too if Edwards catches that ball in 2002, or if the talking heads at ESPN would have talked the voters into voting Georgia into the BCS Championship game in 2007 just like they’re doing for Bama this year. But regardless, I can’t argue too much about Saban’s national titles (but I can call Saban a bold-faced liar and be correct – remember "I will NOT be the next head coach at the University of Alabama – funny how the talking heads at ESPN never bring that up….)
But I can put some other numbers up which casts doubt on the “clearly” a better coach bit from my cousin. Namely that Richt has more 10 win seasons that Saban and a better overall winning percentage than Saban. Furthermore, although I don’t know if this really counts towards who’s the better coach, at least recruits don’t have to check their hands to see if thier rings are still on their fingers or that their watch is still on their wrist after they shake Richt’s hand like when they shake Saban’s. (or whether or not a mysterious “injury” will get rid of their scholarship after they have an underperforming season and to make room for the kids that Saban over-signed…)
Finally, and I hate to keep Saban Bashing (new phrase I just invented), but I was shocked – shocked – at how great of an interviewee Saban was the week leading up to the BCS selection show. I mean here’s a guy who growls at reporters and refuses to answer their questions repeatedly throughout the year, and he’s simply volunteering to give up his “valuable” time to do television appearances on ESPN, CBS, the Home Shopping Network, etc…to talk about how the BCS should simply be about pairing the “two best teams in the country…” What a stand-up guy, true a gentleman through and through.
Ok…what were we talking about again? Oh yeah, the Bama smugness factor. I’ll never forget leaving Sanford Stadium after the 2008 loss to Bama and hearing their fan’s classless victory chant after beating Georgia. Because of that, I was hoping that we’d get to go into their house and beat them this year…just like Richt did in 2002 and 2007…but it looks like we’ll have to wait till 2013 for that. (by the way who was Bama’s coach in 2007?)
As I told my cousin on Christmas, Saban’s only there until things get rough (see LSU after the 2004 season and Miami after the 2006 season). Then he’ll be out of Bama faster than he can say "I will not be the next head coach of X University/NFL team). And then the smugness will be wiped off the Bama fan’s face faster than Cam Newton can pocket a $100 handshake.
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Your stylistic criticisms of Coach Saban are humorous
but expected given that you (presumably) like Coach Richt’s style.
Your substantive charges, though, are baseless and tired. Saban has repeatedly explained how he never should have left the college game, that he mishandled his exit from Miami, that he meant no ill will towards the Miami Dolphins organization or Louisiana State University, and that all he does is win (no matter what).
Your most interesting accusation, though, is that Saban, a man who makes $5M+ per year, would resort to petty theft of the recruits he is wooing to Tuscaloosa. Is that assertion just something to make you feel better? Perhaps you were using it as hyperbole to emphasize your opinion of Coach Saban as a man of shady character with regards to recruiting, as alluded to by your use of the invented term “over-signed.” While I understand (and respect) the viewpoints of many UGA fans, especially those who discuss such things on Dawg Sports, it is important to note that Coach Saban has not broken any NCAA or SEC rules with his practices. Furthermore, there has been no public expression of anger, bitterness, or scorn from past players who have been placed on medical scholarships, as one might expect had “a mysterious ‘injury’ [made it necessary to do away with] their scholarship after they have an underperforming season and to make room for the kids that Saban over-signed.”
Lastly, the male singular form is “alumnus,” while the accepted unisex plural form is “alumni.”
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by animalcracker on Dec 28, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You are correct animalcracker
Oversigning at Alabama is just a myth and so are these 21 players in the past two years (21 – that is an entire recruiting class) who were signed by Alabama and then discarded after National Signing Day
2011: Glenn Harbin, Demetrius Goode, Petey Smith, Brandon Moore, Corey Grant, Keiwone Malone, Robby Green, Darrington Sentimore, Kerry Murphy, Kendall Kelly, Wes Neighbors
2010: Terry Grant, Travis Sikes, Rod Woodson, Star Jackson, Deion Belue, Alfy Hill, Taylor Pharr, Milton Talbert, Darius McKeller, Ronnie Carswell (Greyshirt), Wilson Love (Greyshirt)
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
Just off the top of my head:
Terry Grant and Travis Sikes both graduated from the University of Alabama and decided to forgo their last seasons of eligibility. Grant was tearing it up in the CFL until he broke his leg a couple months ago.
Star Jackson, Demetrius Goode, and Corey Grant (at least these three) all publicly stated they were transferring in search of more playing time at another school, and that there was no ill will between them and the University of Alabama.
Deion Belue and Alfy Hill failed to qualify; Belue was treated so badly by Nick Saban that he just signed with us again after a stint at a community college.
Had these players been “discarded,” as you say, don’t you think there would have been some blowback?
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by animalcracker on Dec 28, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There has been blow back. Round 1 of stopping oversigning started this year.
There also was a media day where Coach Saban lost his lid when he got questioned about it.
Just because you stick your head in the sand, doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
Editor, "Dawgsports"
"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
Your aggressive manner confuses me.
I am offering reasonable counterpoints when you, Dawg2011, and SoGaDawg have brought up legitimate points about the recruiting practices of Nick Saban. In no way is my head in the sand.
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by animalcracker on Dec 28, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
There is not one bit of aggression. But your attempt at being passive aggressive certainly won't work on me.
When I feel like being aggressive, you won’t be confused. Trust me.
You said
don’t you think there would have been some blowback?
Which seems to say you dont think there has been any. When in fact there has been a lot, with Bama as the lead. Which means you are being ignorant or trying to be aggressive yourself.
Editor, "Dawgsports"
"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
The only blow back is from what the media tries to make out of it.
That should tell you enough.
This is how the internets roll these days.
You write so profoundly about the mistakes in another’s post when given the opportunity, and neglect all the other data that is there. Let’s begin:
1) There is a difference between the law, ethics and morality. Perhaps Saban doesnt break the rules, but the massive oversigning is certainly unethical.
2) The old “fool me once routine” still applies. Poor Nick Saban left two teams, but it’s ok because he apologized? Right. And the 5 mil you quoted had nothing to do with that, huh?
3) “Baseless and tired”. You do realize you sound just like the snobbish tide fans the commenter was describing right? Coach Richt’s record is, in fact, better than Sabans and Coach Richt’s record versus Bama is still a fact as well. That’s not baseless, but I imagine it is tired for the bama fans who can’t live with facts.
4) Saban has “repeatedly explained” that he truly only cares about winning, and the paycheck. Ask yourself one simple question, if you had to leave your kids to one family, Saban or Richt, whom would it be?
5) Be careful correcting grammar around here, we have about 100 lawyers and several English/Romance language guru’s here that will clean your clock. But most importantly, when you end your rebuttal with a grammar correction, you look like a tool.
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by tankertoad on Dec 28, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did I miss the part where i was drafting a Complaint?
I apologize to my family and the Dawgsports community for my baseless charges against Coach Saban (notice I used the honorific “Coach” title when addressing Coach Saban). I did not mean to demean the fine gentleman by bringing humor into the mix through the "handshake allegations, nor did I mean to fail to distinguish between alumni, alumnus, or even alumnae (the female term for a graduate, not matriculant, of a college, university, or prepatory institution).
Perhaps next time, I will refer to Strunk & White before I haphazardly post on a message board.
I stand by all other charges and/or allegations against Coach Saban.
Hate, hate, hate.
by SoGaDawg on Dec 28, 2011 5:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Luckily, this isnt a message board.
And as I expected, correcting grammar around here is dangerous business.
Keep posting. Bama fans are just ate up because in there heart of hearts they know this chance at a title is weaksauce.
Editor, "Dawgsports"
"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
Strunk & White reference
TFW!
Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina
by The Feathered Warrior on Dec 29, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
TYPO
FTW!
Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina
by The Feathered Warrior on Dec 29, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Counterpoint
1) I will be the first to admit Saban walks a fine line when it comes to his recruiting practices. While some people like to throw out names (as if they belong on some Oversigning War Memorial) of players who they feel were kicked off the team because they couldn’t cut the mustard, many of these players have nothing but good things to say about the University, the team, and the coaches as they leave. Show me a player who feels he has been used and abused and we’ll talk about ethics and morality.
2) Saban took a pay cut when he left the Miami Dolphins to coach at Alabama.
3) Coach Richt has an excellent career W-L record, as does Nick Saban. Both Richt and Saban have four division titles to their credit. Richt has two conference crowns, Saban has three. Coach Saban has two national titles and will play for a third in twelve days.
4) Your “and the paycheck” inclusion is categorically false. Show me one instance where Saban has even hinted that he is motivated by money. I would be ecstatic if my child was under the tutelage of either Mark Richt or Nick Saban as I believe that they are both extraordinarily gifted in the practice of instructing young men.
5) If my clock needs cleaning, I’ll gladly accept the treatment.
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by animalcracker on Dec 28, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All right, you've now gotten the last word, animalcracker.
Let it go at that. If you want to discuss Nick Saban and oversigning, put up a fanpost and let folks talk about it there. We’re talking about Georgia’s schedule, and the only relevance of that subject to Alabama is the inexplicable disdain a sizable minority of the ‘Bama fan base seems to have for the Bulldogs. I’m not going to let this thread get Rangers100’d.
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Sorry TKK - didnt see this comment, and you beat me too it.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
It's fine.
I don’t mind having the conversation, I’d just like to keep it confined somewhere else, so we can keep this conversation on the schedule.
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Just sent an email about it. Completely agree.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
I, for one, have no disdain for the bulldogs. Just their fans. Specifically their students.
As far as the schedule goes, you should make it back to Atlanta next year thanks to keeping cupcakes and tossing better teams due to the inclusion of the new schools that have joined. But hey, that’s how the ball bounces.
And if you don’t want people commenting then don’t post personal attacks on other schools coaches, etc.
Dude. You're an Alabama fan complaining about Georgia students?
As opposed to the super-classy Alabama students who pelted our team with bottles and cups after their overtime-winning touchdown celebration in the endzone in which they were not taunting anyone?
Or how about these guys:
Rammer Lammer, burmbuster.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 30, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not talking about throwing cups. Thats not hurting anyone or costing anyone anything.
I’m talking about damaging peoples cars outside of your stadium. But just the ones with Alabama decals, mind you.
Yeah, and I witnessed it. Your student fans suck.
dude -
Once again, a bama fan shows up with that holier than thou tone, acting exactly in line with your stereotype. Saying you have “no disdain for the bulldogs, just their fans.” IS SAYING YOU HAVE DISDAIN FOR THE BULLDOGS.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
There is a separation there. I don't root for teams to beat the bulldogs, etc. so your statement doesn't hold much water.
I have quite a few bulldog fans that are great friends. But they are adults. Not the blowhard student fans that you have. If you are a fan of the bulldogs and you act like an adult then great. But if your a student that condones the type of behavior that so many of your students have exhibited in the past then your a loser.
Because Bama fans are such well mannered citizens, right Pawl?
http://sportsandgrits.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 30, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Hi! I'm an opposing fan!
“I’m going to be obnoxious and insulting while saying I’m not! I’m going to ignore the behavior of my own fan base while drawing sweeping conclusions about your fan base based on the unrepresentative behavior of one or two bad apples!”
Sometimes I wonder whether we attract actual opposing fans, or just stereotypes.
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As usual Kyle, you more clearly hit what I am saying.
I am going to insult you, but say it’s ok because I am not insulting you.
There isnt one single fan here at DS that supports vandalism. So, showing up at DS and accusing dawg fans, OH SORRY, I mean the “blow hard students” of behavior is lame. And then to act as if UGA is the only school with a small, small minority that exhibits such behavior is just dumb.
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by tankertoad on Dec 30, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice!
Thanks, Cherokee’s Grip. (We definitely need to make that a lexicon entry.)
Much obliged, tankertoad.
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by T Kyle King on Dec 31, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Just remember, it's a Bama fan that is going to jail for vandalism.
If you are going to be throwing stones, beware of glass me throwing them back.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
by tankertoad on Dec 30, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Bama fan: "I shoulda remembered the rocks."
Tankertoad: “Aye, you shoulda.”
Bama fan: … (falls down)
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 31, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've been hoping for this for months
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
Vanderbilt is playing The Basketball Academy the week before they play Georgia?
Geez, I knew they were hard up for out-of-conference opponents they were confident that they could beat in football, but this is madness.
Editor, Dawg Sports.
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Vandy's schedule
I basically the same as our schedule.
Thus, our early season tilt will decide who waltzes into the Dome, right?
GATA!
by Jman781 on Dec 28, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not at all. Vanderbilt's schedule is far more difficult than Georgia's pillowy cake-walk.
Most notably, Vanderbilt doesn’t get to play Vanderbilt, and has to play Georgia.
/Narrative’d
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
It will be odd
Not playing anyone for two straight seasons.
Oh well. ’Tis life in the WAC of the East.
GATA!
by Jman781 on Dec 28, 2011 12:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The 2012 Georgia season is like the plot of "Caddyshack?"
In that case, nobody go in the pool when we go to Auburn.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 12:24 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Funny
I agree, caddy shack holds a special place in my heart.
Also, as usual, your writing is very enjoyable and I appreciate you. I have to say that the more difficult schedules noted are naturally seasons that bring out the best in both the fans and the team. I will be looking forward to the tough slates, the less “news worthy” schedule for next season will be fun but most all of us should admit that playing the best at their best makes for a great time.
Either way, '92 grad, . . .
. . . thanks!
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My brother is a die-hard Gamecock...
He’s already predicting Georgia’s 11-1 record after a season of “cupcakes.” He seriously referred to an SEC schedule as a bunch of cupcakes. I chuckled and said, “Especially that patsy on October 6th.”
I’m already sick of this meme.
by Tiller on Dec 28, 2011 1:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
As I've said before...
win them all and it won’t matter in the least. Schedules are cyclical…when you don’t play a true round robin schedule, one team will always have an easier schedule than other teams.
by hailtogeorgia on Dec 28, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
Nobody remembers our 2008 slate when we played Alabama at home, LSU on the road, and future-national-champion Florida in Jacksonville.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Man, I keep talking about this, and no one will listen. It's the truth.
Editor, "Dawgsports"
"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
by tankertoad on Dec 28, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or 2003
When we played Clemson, Florida, Alabama, LSU, and Auburn.
In truth, after we lost to LSU again in the 2003 SEC Championship game, we were sent to the Outback Bowl where we truly played no one.
GATA!
by Jman781 on Dec 28, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I see what you did there.
Though I think it was the Hoard of Barbarians Ask What’s In Your Wallet Bowl.
Now on Twitter at @MaconDawg. Same great snark, fewer characters!
Rub-of-the-green
…is what Spurrier aptly called it. Just have to play the ball as it lies.
by Lady Dawg on Dec 28, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
According to some random comment at Alligators Army
We ALWAYS play an easy SEC schedule.
The 984 Has Spoken!
Well, Vandy and Kentucky do always seem to find their way onto our schedule...
… as does Georgia Tech, which USED to be an SEC team until they couldn’t cut it and ran crying to the ACC.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
And everyone seems to have forgotten that in 2007
with LSU’s MNC they avoided the two best teams in the SEC during the regular season (Tennessee and UGA), while getting the weak west and Tulane, Louisiana Tech and MTSU. Funny how everyone rags on UGA for remembering the past so well (1980), and they forget the cupcake schedules that brought home the trophy.
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
Exactly...
If UGA goes 13-0 (note: I’m not predicting this), we’ll shut people up.
It’s funny a schedule that includes games against Auburn (2010 National Champions), Florida (2006 and 2008 National Champs, South Carolina (10-2 last season), Mizzouri (should finish in the top-25), and GT (sadly, always an ACC contender) is considered a cake-walk…
GATA!
by Jman781 on Dec 28, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You know,
I’ve been thinking about what the meme would be IF/WHEN we were to win the MNC in the near future, and I think we’ve found it. I think pundits and rivals alike will attempt to put an asterisk by our MNC and forever point out our easy schedule, (while OF COURSE ignoring the schedule of the past 20 MNCs.) It won’t matter than in order to get there, we would have had to beat LSU and OkState (just guessing here.) They’d have a meme for that too, like “Georgia waltzed through their regular season and got hot at just the right time…”
I suppose if you can’t asterisk a program for cheating, you might as well find something.
by HerschelBlogger on Dec 28, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Subtle jabs at the Gators and the Jackets.
I like you, mpfische. Welcome to the SEC!
GATA!
by Jman781 on Dec 28, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
I should’ve cut you more slack, mpfische.
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If your brother has been "a die-hard Gamecock" for more than four hours, . . .
. . . he should seek medical attention to avoid permanent damage.
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by T Kyle King on Dec 28, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Not to veer too far afield . . .
but a while back there was a commercial for a car company that opened with three middle-aged men riding in a sedan and one uttering the line “if that goes on for 4 hours my doctor is the last person I’ll be calling . . .”
And then they get T-boned by a garbage truck and the revolutionary airbags save them. But mostly what I remember is the line about the doctor.
Now on Twitter at @MaconDawg. Same great snark, fewer characters!
by MaconDawg on Dec 28, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If they've got such a big problem with it...
… then let them try to beat us. Anybody in the SEC East bitching about Georgia’s schedule will have the opportunity to hand us a conference loss. If they can’t do it, then STFU. As for Alabama, never has one fan base gotten more out of one game than Alabama has gotten out of the 2008 Blackout. Of course, they failed to reach the SEC Championship Game this year, so we don’t have a more current result to examine.
Witty phrase.
by The Ugas Departed on Dec 28, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
How soon they forget
Funny how they forget Georgia going into the trailer-park of a town called Tuscaloosa and doing them in 2002 and 2007. Also, they forgot about Georgia’s complete domination of them in Athens in 2003. But since Georgia lost to them in 2008, they “own” Georgia and Mark Richt…
Makes sense that they would have revisionist history, especially since according to their history books, the South won the Civil War…
by SoGaDawg on Dec 28, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They don't have history books.
Witty phrase.
by The Ugas Departed on Dec 29, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
If LSU were to run the table next year, they will earn it, much like this year
Really tough schedule. West + S Carolina and @Fla
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
Conference schedule I should say
North Texas, Washington, Idaho, and Towson all at home nowhere near the OOC slate they played this year
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
Do you think Fla will be any good next year?
I don’t. UGA, Mizzou, and probably even Vandy would be tougher than Fla.
They have talent. It's really an unknown. Likely, they won't be that good, but they will upset someone. Best if not us.
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There's still talent in Florida, and that defense was pretty nasty.
Nobody from the East stood a chance against LSU or Alabama this season, and Auburn forever has Florida’s number. Things were bad for the Jorts this year, but even modest improvements on offense could easily swing 2-3 games their way.
Vandy played at a higher level for the second half of the season, but Florida is drastically deeper on defense, more talented across the board, and probably the better team.
by first and thom on Dec 28, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Going to into Gainesville is no easy task, even if Fla may be down
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
*going into Gainesville and WINNING
DFA Heyward. I'm dead serious
by wpf3211 on Aug 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
Much like Todd Grantham's defensive scheme, I expect Will Muschamp's to be drastically improved in year 2 of the program.
The problem is that they’ll once again be breaking in a new offensive coordinator, so that’ll hamper them.
I think an improved defense will help them ride to at least a 9-win season, though. So, you know… a complete failure for the babies that have only been Gator fans since 1990.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Depends
on the Urbs didn’t recruit meme.
If they are weak at DT and CB as may be the case, that defense won’t be much at all.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
Over at the wwl
the idiots patients are running the asylum
Aschoff: A Peach For The Bulldogs
After looking at Georgia’s 2012 schedule, coach Mark Richt has to feel awfully good about his team’s SEC chances and a potential BCS run, writes Edward Aschoff.
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
Ed Aschoff
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by RedCrake on Dec 29, 2011 6:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
2012 is the widest the door has ever been open for a title. 2013 the door will begin to close
UGA’s best chance to go to a National Title game is next year and stands to be the best shot since 2007. Murray coming back, RB will finally have depth, the WR’s are going to be the best in the country. A stout defense returning. Yes, Missouri is an unknown but very doable. At South Carolina will be rough as always and at Auburn will be a battle but they are going to have an entire new staff next year and will basically be in transition.
2012 is the year…2013, I figure that door will close a bit. You can almost guarantee that Georgia is going to get Alabama or LSU along with Auburn. Georgia has recently had series’ with Ole Miss, Miss. State and Arkansas so next up in the order would be Alabama, LSU and Texas A&M… I suppose there is a chance that Texas A&M may wind up the schedule but I seriously doubt it. Oh yeah, Georgia also plays at Clemson in 2013 and will be at Tech.
The 2013 & 2014 schedules could easily look like:
2013
@Clemson
SC
Missouri
North Texas
@Tennessee
@Alabama, LSU or Texas A&M
Kentucky
@Vanderbilt
Florida
Applachian State
Auburn
@Tech
2014
Clemson
@SC
Charleston Southern
Tennessee
@Missouri
Alabama, LSU or Texas A&M
@Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Florida
South Alabama
@Auburn
Tech
2014 looks like the door will crack back open but not as wide open as 2012 looks. Hope the Dawgs can smell blood and capitalize.
I've been known to be called a criticizer a time or two.
It's the SEC. The schedules will (almost) always be difficult.
Some coaches would say that playing games against great teams better helps to condition your own team to be great.
In fact, Georgia’s SEC championship seasons under Mark Richt have all come when our opening game was against a major opponent (Clemson in ‘02, Boise State in ’05, and Oklahoma State in ’07 when we should have won Mark Richt’s first national championship).
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
What's questionable...
About Missouri liking its chances at home against Georgia better than on the road against South Carolina? Seems logical….obviously the opposite would be true if the sites were reversed.
It's questionable because it displays an ignorance of history.
In his career at Georgia, Mark Richt has gone 27-12 in SEC play in Sanford Stadium and 30-8 in SEC play in true road games (not counting neutral sites in Jacksonville and in Atlanta). Coach Richt has a significantly higher winning percentage against conference opponents in their stadiums (.790) than he has between the hedges (.692). The assumption that the Bulldogs will be easier to beat in Columbia than in Athens simply flies in the face of the facts established over the course of Coach Richt’s entire tenure at Georgia.
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Well, based on the last months, no one gives a damn about facts when it comes to UGA and Coach Richt.
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by tankertoad on Dec 28, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
"Displays an ignorance of history..."
Do you always come on that strong? Or is that a pleasantry reserved for new arrivals who ask genuine questions?
You’re suggesting that you think Georgia would fair better if it played only road games and that seems absurd to say the least. Given the option — if you could attend all the games — would prefer to have Georgia never play in Athens? Its crazy to actually believe your team has a better chance on the road, I’m not sure anyone actually believes that. You, for example, would have likely pounded Colorado at home last year.
"Displays an ingorance of history..."
… seems to be an accurate characterization of someone who thinks it’s easier to beat a Mark-Richt-coached Georgia team in their own stadium rather than Sanford Stadium. Mark Richt simply has a better record on the road than at home. You might be right that Georgia would have beaten Colorado handily in 2010 if they were playing in Athens… but then again, the 2006 season would seem to contradict your theory.
I’m sure no offense was meant, mpfische. Calling a position ignorant of history doesn’t mean one is stupid… it just means that it’s ignorant of the historical record.
Or, perhaps Missouri is simply a terrible road team. That would also be a reason to be more optimistic about one’s chances to win a home game than an away game. And the Tigers are 12-9 in away games over the last 5 years and 19-26 over the last 10 years… so maybe that’s it.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In fairness...
South Carolina hasn’t beaten an SEC Tiger squad since they beat LSU in 1994…This includes a loss to Mizzou in 2005.
GATA!
by Jman781 on Dec 28, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually...
This actually PROVES our point…
Winning @ South Carolina is much easier than hosting UGA.
South Carolina can’t beat SEC Tigers…
GATA!
by Jman781 on Dec 28, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mizzou fan here
Let me start by stating what I personally think on this subject: I’m more worried about Georgia at home than SC on the road because I think Georgia will likely be a better team.
That said, Bill C probably said what he said because Mizzou is very tough at home, not because we are a “terrible road team.” I’d say we are a decent, but not great road team (12-9 last 5 years, as you point out). At home, however, we are something like 25-5 over the last five years, with most of those losses (3) occurring in one odd-ball year of ’09 where we played most of the season with a first year starting QB that had one workable leg. We are 11-1 at home over the last two years (obviously both records padded by non-con schedule, like most teams). I would imagine his comment stemmed from his knowledge that we are usually a very good home team more than anything else.
Most Mizzou fans do not yet have full familiarity with our new conference members and their tendancies (like Richt having a better conference road record ) just like our new conference members don’t yet have full knowledge of our program and it’s tendencies. I have little doubt we will all resolve those issues shortly. Mizzou fans cannot wait for football season and look foward to hosting Georgia and your fans. Columbia’s a good town and hopefully (for us) you’ll all enjoy the town more than game.
One last point. When looking at anything regarding the current state of Mizzou football, it is really unfair to look further back than ‘05 or ’04 at the earliest (again this is regarding the current state of Mizzou football). Pinkel got here in ’01, but inhereted a train wreck that was almost completely irrelevant for about 20-25 years. Barring some bumps here and there and an outlier peak in ’07, we have been generally building up steadily since he’s been here. So the last 5-7 years is much more representative of where we are now than including his first several years here.
by fltfire on Dec 29, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks, fltfire.
We’re looking forward to getting to know y’all better, and no slight against Mizzou was intended; I was merely remarking Mark Richt’s ability to beat even good conference teams on the road, which, again, he has done consistently enough for long enough for me to believe it is something into which to place some measure of faith.
By the way, I watched the Tigers’ bowl game, and Gary Pinkel missed a golden opportunity. In the halftime interview, he was twice asked questions in which the reporter used the phrase “you guys.” He could’ve built up a lot of goodwill by beginning his reply: “Well, we’re headed to the SEC after this game, so, technically, that should be ’y’all’ instead of ‘you guys.’” Even so, though, we look forward to welcoming Missouri to the conference in September.
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by T Kyle King on Dec 29, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Appreciate it
I didn’t take what you said as a slight at all. I was just wanting to clarify what Bill C was probably thinking.
As for Pinkel missing the oppurtunity to say y’all.. it’s a good point, but Pinkel is a pretty authentic fellow by all accounts. Being from Ohio, I can’t imagine him ever saying “y’all.” As for me, like a good number of Missourians, use the word “y’all” regularly. I didn’t want y’all to think I was trying to “fit in” to the new conference or anything.
Asking this as an honest question and without any intent to sound sassy or condescending or anything (I reserve that for schools based out of Atlanta; yes, that includes Emory)
But how much of Mizzou’s home success do you attribute to the division y’all played in? To most observers, the Big XII North had been probably the weakest division ever the past eight or more years (much weaker than any slights against the SEC East this year). You granted the out of conference slate as being fairly weak (although I will give credit for playing the Fighting Illini and Ole Miss; BCS is BCS). However, just going over the past five years, you haven’t played that many good conference teams at home, and the few you did, you generally lost.
You’re a fan. You paid more attention to the Big XII and are likely to better recall each team’s relative quality from each season. How many of those 25 wins were over good teams? I can honestly count only two, but that Oklahoma win last season was big. Outside it and maybe Texas this year, how many of those teams were good?
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I don't think the Big XII North was as bad as you think it is.
Perhaps in its one or two worst years, it was pretty dismal, but it rarely sank to the level of, say, 85% of the Big East. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the general team quality in the Big XII during most of its “down years” would be approximately that of the SEC East this year. Not that that’s a huge compliment, mind you… I’m just pointing out that they weren’t necessarily abjectly horrible from top to bottom.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 29, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Fair point
Certainly the North was not the toughest division football or anything, but as vineyarddawg pointed out, it was probably a little overly criticized as week, largely because in its worst years the south was so strong – (kind of like SEC this year). I disagree that its worst years were equivolent to the SEC east this year, though – I think it had a couple years where it was weaker. I definitely agree, however, that even in its weakest years it was tougher than being in the big east (we probably would have had a couple undefeated season if we had been in that confernce, like many other teams). Outside of its real down years, though (in 07, for instance, Kansas was good, Mizzou was great, and no other north team belonged in a BCS conference), the North can be tougher than it appears.
To directly address your question/point – it is certainly a fair one – it first would depend on how you define “good” teams. I don’t think Texas was very good this year, yet they are somehow ranked. If we say Texas this year and better teams, I would say 5 wins are over “good” teams in the last 5 years. Tex this year, Sand Diego St. (trust me, they were good – 9-4 with losses to MU, BYU, TCU, and Utah by a combined 13 points) and OK last year; and then Texas Tech and Texas A&M in 07 (both 9 win teams, both ranked). If you say a team is “good” if they are pretty good but not ranked all year or respectable or even just a bowl team that number probably goes to about 10-15.
While I certainly agree thats not many, we didn’t have that many to play at home over that time period. We lost to 4 good teams over that time period at home, two of them in ’09 when Gabbert was a one-legged first year starter (the other loss was that year to a bad Baylor team). Gabbert got hurt by Suh against Nebraska in a Monsoon game. We were winning that game until Gabbert and our best cornerback got hurt late in the first half – so who knows what would have happened. So we are 5-4 over the last five years against good teams at home. But if you take ’09 out of the equation, we are 5-2 against good teams at home. One of those losses was to Ok St. this year, which is a legit top 5 team and has a good argument to be in the National Championship game. They were clearly a better team than us this year but we still had a lot of chances to win that game. Some inconsistent play from a first year starting QB and some freaky plays (two passes tipped and intercepted by D-linemen and Franklin fumbling on the one yard line (I think he only fumbled about 3 times all year) shifted the game out of reach.
With small sample sizes, one monsoon injury season can really affect the numbers.
Alright, cool
Thanks for the extra information. Best of luck in the SEC next year, save for September 8.
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What's so strong about stating that someone who obviously is ignorant of history . . .
. . . displays an ignorance of history?
You asked why I thought it was a mistake for Missouri fans to suppose that they have a better shot at Georgia at home than at South Carolina on the road. I replied by pointing out that, over the course of his eleven seasons at Georgia, Mark Richt’s winning percentage in SEC games is almost 100 points higher on the road than it is at home. A disparity that large over a period that long using comparable numbers of games (39 at home, 38 on the road) would seem highly relevant, particularly to someone like Bill C., whose football analysis is so strongly statistically-based.
If I came across as rude, mpfische, I apologize; that wasn’t my intention, though I must confess that I don’t understand how it came across that way. I regret it if we got off on the wrong foot. I’m happy to have a civil conversation, but, if you’re interested in that, as well, cheap shots about last year’s Colorado game—-the highly unrepresentative nadir of the Mark Richt era—-may not be the way to go.
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So if the only consideration was maximizing Georgia victories, and you were given
the option to move the entire 2012 SEC schedule to away stadiums, including the Florida game, you would jump at the opportunity?
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by GwinnettGamecock on Dec 29, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
No, but, if an opposing fan's primary basis for believing . . .
. . . Georgia will be easier to beat than another SEC team of comparable quality to Georgia (such as South Carolina) for the sole reason that the opposing fan’s team gets Georgia at home and plays the other SEC team of comparable quality on the road, I feel justified in pointing out that the Bulldogs’ statistical history in the Mark Richt era generally does not favor his position.
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NO KYLE THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID!
YOU SAID A=B AND I KNOW B=C THEREFORE YOU’RE SAYING THAT A=C AND THAT’S A STUPID THING TO SAY.
/Gamecock’ed
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 29, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
NO DAMN MATH...
makes my head swim as I watch a Big-12 and Pac-12 game reset the scoreboard……UGH
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
Georgia's been a terrific road team in the Richt era,
but I think the other variable (opponent’s performance) would lead rivals fans to greatly prefer facing Georgia in their school’s home stadium rather than travel Between the Hedges, the lovely ladies of Athens notwithstanding.
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by GwinnettGamecock on Dec 29, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
That's fair.
From South Carolina’s perspective, in particular, there is a clear trend over the last several years that Georgia is significantly less likely to score many points against the Gamecocks in Columbia than in Athens.
My initial point was simply that, all other matters being equal, having home field advantage against Georgia probably isn’t going to be the difference between victory and defeat; on the whole, I haven’t seen my team play very many games, at home or away, in victory or defeat, that I genuinely thought would have turned out differently had the venue been changed. (That’s part of why I find the arguments of some Georgia fans for moving the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party from Jacksonville so unconvincing.)
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by T Kyle King on Dec 29, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The word "ignorance" is not an insult, even if it is taken as one.
It simply means a lack of knowledge on a subject. Everyone is ignorant about something.
by dawgfan will on Dec 29, 2011 1:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
REALLY off the subject....
But MAC football is on ESPN on a Wednesday again. Toledo is beating Air Force 28 to 21 midway through the second quarter. First team to score 60 wins.
God I love mid-week MAC football. Its like the Arena League but only slightly more relevant.
by SoGaDawg on Dec 28, 2011 5:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I just got word from a reliable source...
Given UGA’s MAC-like schedule, all our games will be played on Wednesday next season.
GATA!
by Jman781 on Dec 28, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In other breaking news from a reliable source...
Due to UGA’s instability at running back, Herschel Walker has been granted a special waiver by the NCAA for one more year of eligibility. The source – the infallible Danny Sheridan – reports that, after viewing Walker’s MMA fights, the NCAA officials were afraid for their life if they denied Walker’s request and therefore they assented.
In other news, Bear Bryant is still dead.
by SoGaDawg on Dec 28, 2011 6:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Is this the same news release
that says since Alabama is so great their games will be played on Sundays and ESPN will have them all on national television to compete with the NFL TV schedule on CBS and FOX?
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
I'll take it!
I finally DVR’ed and watched the Herschel Walker Storied documentary… and I swear he looks like he could easily still compete today on the Division I level.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yep Go DAWGS
Got the easiest schedule for the 2nd year in a row!! Ole Miss and Auburn there’s 2 wins for you!!! So yep let’s GO DAWGS you’ve earned it!!!!!!!!
by pchappel on Dec 28, 2011 7:38 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
If he is, he's wrong
no one knows schedule strength a year from now without a crystal ball to see the future. Things change so much in college sports. You love key players as seniors, among others move on. You add new players in recruits. Some players get better as they work hard. Some players get worse as grades, liquor, girls, drugs, etc, etc, etc get a hold of them. None of the teams this year will look the same next year, so schedule strength for next season is very much to be determined.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 28, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You mean, UGA actually has to play the games, and UT, UF, Vandy, SC all might improve?
You arent with the narrative.
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by tankertoad on Dec 28, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
just FYI - pchappel is trolling. Signed up for DS right before he posted this. Please dont feed the troll.
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Let me add - pchappel is also a fan of SC - take that as you will.
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Now I owe you an apology, tankertoad.
I didn’t read your comments before replying to pchappel’s comment. You are, of course, correct; he’s a whiny moron, and I should’ve ignored him.
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It's like were moderating our moderating. Or something.
Maybe I will do one big Front Page Post about how UGA has the easiest schedule ever, SC got hosed, and Alabama is the rightful heir to the throne of the world no matter what devil is running the place. Get it all out and in one nice package.
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by tankertoad on Dec 28, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're right.
It just burns me up that we’re getting this kind of crap from South Carolina fans.
This year, they played East Carolina, and we played Boise State. They played Clemson, and we played a Georgia Tech team that beat Clemson. They played everyone else in the East, and we played everyone else in the East. They played Mississippi State, and we played Mississippi State. They played Auburn at home, and we played Auburn at home. How, precisely, were we the ones with the soft schedule?
The only way in which the Gamecocks’ schedule was tougher than the Bulldogs’ was in the remaining Western Division game; they played Arkansas, and we played an Ole Miss team that lost to the Razorbacks . . . by five measly points. The Palmetto State Poultry need to learn to beat Auburn at home, or quit their whining. (I love how pchappel insinuated that Auburn was a gimme win; he’s too dumb to know that he was insulting his team in the process.)
Next year, they get Arkansas and we get Auburn, because those are our respective permanent rivals. We’ve been playing the Plainsmen since 1892, and, when I suggested giving South Carolina a new permanent rival from the West, Gamecock fans said they’d grown accustomed to facing the Hogs. We didn’t whine about how we had to play a tough Auburn team while South Carolina drew an inconsistent Arkansas team during the many, many years that the Tigers were better than the Razorbacks, yet, because this year is one of the very few in which Arkansas is better than Auburn, we have to take grief about this year and next year? Please.
Likewise, next year, Georgia and South Carolina both draw rotating Western Division teams which were already scheduled to be on the slate prior to expansion. We both have to play the teams we play, including each other (in Columbia). They whine that they want our respect—-which they have, due to their team’s improved performance on the field in the last five years—-yet they act like sore losers even when they win, and begin pre-emptively making excuses before the games are even played, all while lambasting us for our supposed inability to admit when we’re beaten by a better team (which a search of the site archives here reveals is a bogus charge).
If they keep this up, I’m going to give vineyarddawg the green light to start replacing the second syllable of South Carolina’s nickname with the sexually suggestive five-letter word he applied to Isaiah Crowell.
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by T Kyle King on Dec 28, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Having just cruised around all fan bases
I have learned everyone’s schedule is hard. Except ours.
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by tankertoad on Dec 28, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Good it is about time
we enjoyed a schedule normally reserved for Alabama or Florida.
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
by Dawg2011 on Dec 28, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I said it on another post but you let these guys win two years in a row
and then they start to sound like Ga Tech fans after their once a decade victory. Can we trade the Chickens for Clemson. I mean we already have 3 tigers and 1 wildcat in the SEC, would a fifth feline hurt? On another board I had to remind a “cocky” USC Jr. fan, who stated that USC Jr. had been better than UGA in “recent” years, that since 2001 South Carolina has finished ahead of UGA in the conference ONE time (2010). In that same time frame UGA has an SEC record of 55-30 while South Carolina is sitting at a massive 38-54. I had to point out that there was a basic flaw in his statement: the FACTS. I also went one step further and explained that if he was talking about just the last 2 years that USC Jr. was not as dominating as he thought: South Carolina does hold a slight edge there 11-5 over UGA’s 10-6.
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
by Dawg2011 on Dec 28, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I regret that I have but one "rec" to give for this comment.
Nicely done, Dawg2011.
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Thanks for the rec and compliment
but they make it so easy when they spout assumptions, forget FACTS and “Display an ingorance of history…”
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I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
Yep.
His commenting history betrays him. Virtually every comment he’s ever made at SB Nation is at Garnet and Black Attack: that bastion of even-handed coverage of South Castlevania athletics*.
* – Yes, I meant to type that. I’m stealing it from EDSBS, dammit.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, pchappel!
We really appreciate your willingness to provide us with the benefit of your psychic abilities, since you obviously know what records each of the teams in the SEC will compile next fall if you’re in a position to predict which team will have the league’s easiest schedule!
We also appreciate your compliment to the Bulldogs’ 2012 schedule! Obviously, the “easiest schedule” line was intended humorously, since you said Georgia would have “the easiest schedule for the 2nd year in a row,” and that’s obviously not true, since Georgia had a top 20 schedule this year, so I gather you were predicting another top 20 schedule for Georgia next year, too! If so, thanks!
Of course, if you were being serious, pchappel, please try to stop being an embarrassment to whichever fan base you represent.
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I'm not a UGA fan,
but you play the cards you’re dealt. Everyone has a schedule to play. Worry about winning yours and let the other conferences find stuff to cry about in regards to the SEC.
Precisely.
Thanks, Aaron.50cal. Georgia will play all five of the teams that were in its division already, its permanent opponent from the opposite division, one of the previously-scheduled rotating opponents from the other division that already appeared on the slate, and the new team joining its division, which took the place of the other previously-scheduled rotating opponent from the other division . . . exactly like the other eleven current members of the league. The complainers are operating from the assumption that no currently good teams will get worse and no currently bad teams will get better. This assumption is refuted by every season in every sport ever.
I’ve decided simply to accept the compliment. Basically, they’re saying that Georgia doesn’t play any teams next season that are as good as Georgia. To that, I reply: “Thanks!”
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Not trying to be a jerk
And certainly not as dumb as you are making me out to be!! But thanks for all the nice comments from all you great Georgia fans!! That’s one more reason I can’t stand Georgia fans the other being the time we beat yall in Athens on the last second dive over the top by Brandon Bennet. What happened after that game let me see if I can look back in my crystal ball oh yeah my 10 year old son was hit with a rock by some great Georgia fan!! So yes I’m a GameCOCK FAN and proud of it!! Least when we loose 2 games we don’t want our coach ran out of town!! So go ahead make your Georgia fan comments that’s fine with me. Cause the only ones who look childish is all you who like to insult others!!!!!!!!!!
by pchappel on Dec 28, 2011 11:27 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Uh -
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by tankertoad on Dec 28, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Not trying to be a jerk."
I love it. Your comments should be in the dictionary next to the definition of “jerk,” but you’re not trying to be a jerk. Either you’re lying, or you’re just naturally a jerk (which would explain why you gravitated to South Carolina fandom, and particularly why you capitalize the accurately descriptive second syllable of “Gamecock”), or you are, in fact, as dumb as you are making yourself out to be. I don’t rule out the possibility of all three being true.
If the story about your son getting hit by a rock is true, pchappel, I’m truly sorry that happened, but one bad apple does not a rotten bunch make, and no one here threw that rock, or would do such a thing. You came around here, and you went out of your way to be as obnoxious and confrontational as possible, and, frankly, you embarrassed yourself, you accused others of sins of which you plainly are guilty, and you brought shame to your fan base. Would you want your son behaving this way? If not, straighten up and act right; if so, well, that’s really sad, and I’m glad tankertoad banned your sorry pathetic butt.
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he cannot help it
he once had wealth, power, and the love of a beautiful woman. Now he only has two things: his friends and… uh… his thermos thermos.
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
Well played, Dawg2011.
Still, the least he could’ve done was bring us some fresh whine!
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by T Kyle King on Dec 29, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
There go the children!
Over the top of the stadium!
Key the cars, boys! Light fire to their lawn chairs!
Push grandmas down the exit ramps!
I like trucks.
by Gen. Stoopnagle on Dec 29, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
If you don't want to look like such a ASS
Don’t be a typical Georgia fan!!! Goodnight to you Sir!!!!!
by pchappel on Dec 28, 2011 11:58 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Imma have to go ahead and put a ban on you for that. Nothing you have said has had any value, and you started trolling from the start.
Good night.
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2 posts too late IMHO..
I would have said 3, but as great as the staff here is, I still do not expect you to be omnipotent
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
He was flagged a troll from the start. Like to go ahead and have them prove it.
I through in the gif, as we often do, with a “dude” or what not, but he wanted the ban. I guess having a ten year old doesnt mean you have to stop acting like one.
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by tankertoad on Dec 29, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Amen.
This was absolutely handled the right way. The guy signed up for the sole purpose of trolling, but we gave him the rope with which to hang himself. Nicely done.
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You know what this comment needs?
More exclamation POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Jman781 on Dec 29, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you, pchappel, for confirming the worst stereotypes about your fan base, . . .
. . . up to and including the delusional cognitive ’Cocknitive dissonance of falsely accusing Georgia fans of exhibiting the traits South Carolina fans embody definitively!
If you don’t want to look like such an ass, don’t be a typical South Carolina fan. Good day to you, sir!
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I love a good banning as much as the next person
Yet, there’s something sad about a schedule that deprives us of an October Saturday
between the hedges. We’re going from one this year to none next year, and it’s a shame because October is such a fine month to be in Athens.
I would like those of you who pore over schedules and historical trends to explain why we have gotten away from having a couple October dates at home, including Homecoming. Is it Open Date’s fault?
September it’s usually still a bit too warm to guarantee a crisp, classic football Saturday, and November is a crap shoot whether it will be too blustery for comfort, especially sitting in the south stands. This year vs. New Mexico State turned out Octoberish but was touch and go early in the day.
I realize I’m whining, but I typically make it back there for only one home game and I like to make the most of it. Having said that, I’m happy to wrap myself in layers of goretex and fleece to watch Georgia football, and my enjoyment will be increased immensely if we are in the process of taking advantage of a favorable schedule to put together a season for the ages.
by memphisdawg on Dec 29, 2011 12:57 AM EST via Android app reply actions
I understand your frustration, memphisdawg...
… and I agree. October is a damn fine month to be in Athens.
Our home game challenges in October occur for two related reasons:
1) The Georgia-Florida game has recently landed on the last Saturday in October (or, sometimes, the first Saturday in November if it’s November 1st or 2nd).
2) Georgia has tried to get back to the practice of scheduling an open date before the Florida game.
So that takes away 2 dates right there, which means the maximum number of home games the Dawgs can have in a typical October is 2, or possibly 3 in a year when October has 5 Saturdays.
In 2012, the situation is compounded by the fact that we moved Vanderbilt (home) up into September and South Carolina (away) back into October. So, using the old schedule, we probably would have had 1 home game in October once again, against Vandy. Because of conference expansion, though, we don’t even have that.
Mike Slive also specifically said that the 2013 schedule is going to be generated “from scratch” and will not have any specific relation to this one in terms of who is visiting whom and so forth. So, we could suffer another homeless October if the schedule shakes out in that way next year, too.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 29, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's one of my biggest beefs with our scheduling...
it seems like every couple years, we get an October sans home games. We need a better balance, which I suggest means flipping Kentucky and Vandy
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by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 29, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea, we talked about giving up a game not long ago - do an away and away, if that's what it takes to get an october game.
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Actually, that could happen in 2013, when (or so Mike Slive has said) . . .
. . . the league essentially will be starting from scratch.
Some reshuffling to get a more even alternation between home and away games would be nice, but the priority has to be keeping the open date before Jacksonville, which (as vineyarddawg noted) means not getting a home game in the second half of October ever, unless we move the Florida game later in the year, which might be wise, but which has other complications.
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I used to buy into the bye week. But not so much now.
I think it’s best to hit Jax in stride – playing UK the week prior is just right to me. Athens deserves Oct games. Heck, if it wasnt for those dirty rotten jort wearing mullet heads, I would be ok to get out of Jax.
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OMG... you said "buy into the bye week"...
by vineyarddawg on Dec 29, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Here's the thing about the bye week:
We can’t afford to let them have it if we don’t. It’s fine if we both have it, or if neither of us has it, but we’re at a disadvantage if only they have it.
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I've been a little out of the loop
so reading this post and the predictable USCe trolling/response has been, well, predictable. While I am disappointed that we are not playing ’Bama at home, I am rejoicing in the fact that I will most likely be taking the September 8 road trip to Missouri. My sister still lives west of St. Louis and is only about 20 miles north of I-40 which puts me about 2 hours from Columbia.
I wonder how much influence McGarity had on the schedule set-up. I also wonder if the SEC is throwing Mark Richt, the Dean of SEC coaches, a little dawg-bone here. Having said this, our schedule isn’t some crazy-assed conspiracy, but the logical re-arrangement of chairs to fit the theater. Or in South Carolina’s case, chairs on the deck of the Titanic.
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It is Logical
which of course drices the resto of the SEC insane…Logic does not compute
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Love the schedule!
Gamecocks should be happy, too. Afterall, Auburn rolled off the schedule!
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by Gen. Stoopnagle on Dec 29, 2011 9:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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