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Georgia Bulldogs v. LSU Tigers: Too Much Information (Part Three)

The SEC Championship Game kicks off in 24 hours. In the first two installments of this special edition of Too Much Information, I have compared the conference schedules and examined the shared history of the Georgia Bulldogs and the LSU Tigers. I now offer my final thoughts upon the matter, for whatever they might be worth, secure in the knowledge that most of what information follows comes from other sources, to which I have contributed mostly intuition. This posting is concise, because my point is simple:

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Louisiana State is the best team in college football, period. The Bayou Bengals are No. 1 in the BlogPoll (and No. 1 on my BlogPoll ballot) and No. 1 in the SEC Power Poll (and No. 1 on my SEC Power Poll ballot). Everyone is picking against us and rooting against us, while we are left to point out that our defense is much improved, in part because Brandon Boykin returned for reasons that offer hope that sugar may fall from the sky in a way that would do the late Larry Munson proud.

If Georgia wins, the Bulldogs will have secured their 13th Southeastern Conference title, tying them with the Tennessee Volunteers for the second-most all-time, behind only the Alabama Crimson Tide. Speaking of the Tide, since an all-SEC title tilt appears virtually certain, regardless of tomorrow’s result in Atlanta, a Georgia victory in the Georgia Dome would confirm that the league is so dominant that the BCS National Championship Game served to settle second place in the conference.

By rights, LSU should win this one, perhaps convincingly. We could see a repeat of the 2003 SEC Championship Game; in fact, that probably is to be expected. A Bayou Bengal blowout of the Bulldogs would confirm that the Tigers are who we thought they were. Louisiana State plays first-rate football in all three phases for 60 minutes every single Saturday, and it would take Georgia’s best game---better, certainly, than the Tennessee game or the Florida game; better, even, than the Georgia Tech game; better, perhaps, than the Auburn game---to beat that.

The Bulldogs’ history against No. 1-ranked teams confirms that the odds are long. The Classic City Canines have faced the No. 1 team in the nation four previous times in their history---each time at a neutral site, incidentally---and have won only once. The three losses were by margins of 24, 40, and 24 points, respectively. Georgia isn’t supposed to win, but Georgia can win. Georgia must play its best game of the season, but, in 2002 and in 2005, the Red and Black did exactly that, playing their best game of the season in the SEC Championship Game.

The last time I walked out of the Georgia Dome, I thought this month would see Kirby Smart introduced in Butts-Mehre Heritage Hall as Mark Richt’s successor. Well, I was wrong, and I should’ve known better. Last December, I predicted Georgia would win the Eastern Division championship in 2011, and I was right. Last January, I predicted Georgia would win the Southeastern Conference championship in 2011, too. I’m sticking with that prediction, because, as hailtogeorgia said in the roundtable podcast in October, if you’re going to risk being wrong, you might as well be wrong in support of your team.

The last time the ‘Dawgs were preparing to play in the Dome, I made a prediction. I think I got the score right; I just got the date wrong. It was a typographical error, really. I made more or less the same mistake George H.W. Bush made. I said September 3, but I meant December 3. Yeah, that’s all it was, just an accident of timing.

My Prediction: Georgia 27, Louisiana State 24.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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What do you predict will happen in the 2011 SEC Championship Game?
LSU will win by a lot.
126 votes
LSU will win by a little.
61 votes
Georgia will win by a little.
101 votes
Georgia will win by a lot.
25 votes
I don't know.
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I've known all along that LSU had monster lineman and good to great skill players

what has gotten me more scared is the lack of mistakes their QB (Jefferson) has made lately. If that guy is as sharp as he was vs. Ark. I don’t see us winning. Granted, he was at home then and we have a much better D than the Hogs, but still, we have to force him into several mistakes for us to win. It’s possible, but I’m certainly not shocked or offended at us being heavy underdogs.

If ya can't beat em, bitch about how they illegally operate scooters

by Dawg in Beaumont on Dec 2, 2011 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

I posted in an earlier thread

that in the 8 games Jefferson has played in he has not been faced with much pressure. The teams average rank is in the lower 50% in the nation in sacks, INTs and TFLs. The only team respectable in those that Jefferson has faced was Alabama and we all know how well that worked. I think a major key is the UGA Defensive Line must plug the gaps and allow our big, fast linebackers to create havoc in the -10 to +3 box of the line of scrimmage.

On another note, have you seen the size, speed and nastiness of those guys we are playing tomorrow. We have no hope, there is no reason to even play this game. The Packers would have a hard time with these swamp boys from Cajunland…

GO DAWGS UGA 16 – LSU 14

And to Hell with gatech

by Dawg2011 on Dec 2, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We all know Jefferson is a great kicker.

At least, when a guy is laying on the floor of a bar.

by NRBQ on Dec 2, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

its a joke Jefferson is even on LSU's football team

Say what you will about Richt, but he would have kicked Jefferson off Gerogia’s team for that garbage (see Mettenberger).

by SoGaDawg on Dec 2, 2011 10:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No, Le Mile is overcoming obstacles, havent you heard?

Editor, "Dawgsports"

"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Dec 3, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

In fairness...

‘adversity’ is code for team arrests 90% of the time

by Swarles_Barkley on Dec 3, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

"Le Mile"?

Is the “s” key on your keyboard busted, or are you speaking French? :)

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by T Kyle King on Dec 3, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I was trying to fit in.

Editor, "Dawgsports"

"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Dec 3, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Kyle, I'm Not Gonna Lie...

… I’m usually as cool as a chocolate covered banana, but I’m fretting a little right now.

by Comin' Down The Track on Dec 2, 2011 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

As well you should, for the reasons Dawg in Beaumont stated, above.

LSU is the best team in the country. The Tigers play flawless football. We need to play our best game, and have them make a mistake or two along the way. Louisiana State should win, probably by a lot.

I just think we have a chance, and even bad odds are better than no odds, and I feel good about this team.

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by T Kyle King on Dec 2, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

LSU Jonno was probably right on in the other thread:

If we played this game 10 times, LSU would probably win 8 or 9 of them. But tomorrow might just be the one.

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by Spears on Dec 2, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think both you and LSU Jonno . . .

. . . are exactly right.

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by T Kyle King on Dec 2, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It's one of those things...

And why I love football.

All the data says LSU wins; however, I’m feeling it will be close. I still think the Tigers pull it out, but when games are close, anything can happen.

Go Dawgs!

GATA!

by Jman781 on Dec 2, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I Suppose...

… that I can reflect that, win or lose, when I walk out of the Dome tomorrow night, I will not feel the same sickening feeling that I did upon my last exit from there.

by Comin' Down The Track on Dec 2, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Precisely.

I will walk out of the Georgia Dome tomorrow feeling somewhere between good and great, secure in the knowledge that this will not be the last meeting between Mark Richt and Les Miles in that building. The future is bright; it’s merely a question of whether the winning streak we now are on will be same winning streak we will be on heading into next year’s SEC Championship Game, or a different one.

By the way, College Buddy (whose secret identity I trust you have discerned from his comments) and I will be at the game tomorrow. Shoot me a message on Facebook, and I’ll tell you where our seats are. We’ll see you there.

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by T Kyle King on Dec 2, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

And you're not Aaron Murray...

with Sam Montgomery and Barkevius Mingo matched up on somewhat oversized and not very quick footed Bean and Cordy. That scares me more than anything, especially considering he has never, never ever, never shown the ability to just throw it away.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 2, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Dec 2, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Where's Dave?

This series of TMIs has me so jacked up that I need to borrow some butter.

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by Spears on Dec 2, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

Look at the butter falling from the sky!

Look at the butter falling from the sky!

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by T Kyle King on Dec 2, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry...

Been at Costco. Buying in bulk.

Defense wins championships. We’ve got a very, very good defense. Never underestimate this.

GO DAWGS!

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by DavetheDawg on Dec 2, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Kyle, I'm not gonna lie either.........

I have this sense of total calm…………….for no good reason. Having witnessed, listened to or watched close to 450 UGA games I have never felt this way before. It could be a good sign or ………………

by JRL on Dec 2, 2011 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

calm before the storm it is likely to be...lol

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by tankertoad on Dec 2, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL I once had a similar feeling on short final

hope this one works out better :-)

Honestly I guess I’ve resigned myself to the fact that LSU is REALLY good and should win but we also have a chance.

by JRL on Dec 2, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

calm on short final? or storm on short final?

those are very different situations

Life will always throw you curves, just keep fouling them off... the right pitch will come, but when it does, be prepared to run the bases. ~Rick Maksian

by oneloyaldawg on Dec 2, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Never before...

Have I felt a good UGA team was given so little chance. I doubt a single “expert” will actually pick UGA to win. In fact, I’m curious if any non-UGA bloggers will pick us to win.

I’m not buying LSU is THAT much better than us, but I guess we’ll find out!

Woof.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Dec 2, 2011 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

I'm not a big David Pollack guy

(As an analyst anyway), but he gave us a good deal of credit on College Football Live this afternoon. In between Erin Andrews cackling like an idiot and Robert Smith doing his usual smug routine and poking at him, DP highlighted our strengths and said we were the most balanced team LSU would face all year. He still picked LSU, but said he only thought it would come down to our inconsistent special teams play.

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by RedCrake on Dec 2, 2011 5:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I agree

I think he was referring more to if it came down to a clutch field goal.

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by RedCrake on Dec 2, 2011 5:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Or at least thats what it sounded like he was alluding to.

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by RedCrake on Dec 2, 2011 5:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LSU returns the ball well, and Les Miles is more adept . . .

. . . at successfully executing special teams trickery than any coach in the country. We have been susceptible to both, though I agree with tankertoad that the former has been less of a problem in recent weeks. However, LSU can hurt Georgia on special teams in many, many ways.

Fortunately, Blair Walsh appears to have gotten out of his own head a little bit, so I’m confident of his ability to kick a long one indoors, should the need arise. If we’re in for a repeat of the Alabama-LSU game, I like our chances.

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by T Kyle King on Dec 2, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with Pollack's analysis

I think we’re the most balanced team LSU has faced so far, and special teams has me more worried than any other aspect of this matchup.

by MDDawg on Dec 2, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

By biggest worry is our OL vs. their DL

I like the matchups elsewhere and think they aren’t too lopsided against us. But our OL vs. their DL, particular OTs vs. DEs, that is the….

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 2, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

On the flipside, though, Georgia clearly boasts the second-best defense LSU has faced, and they didn’t manage a touchdown against the best defense the Tigers faced.

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by T Kyle King on Dec 2, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

No time for AM, no holes for the RB de jour, means no victory for us.

by hbtd on Dec 2, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

We may be the best team in all phases LSU has faced

not “better” than Bama as a team mind you, but more complete with our passing ability, and good (at least when they aren’t shanking) kickers. Bama has the arguably better D and the clearly better RB, but other than that, LSU hasn’t faced a team that can run and throw effectively (if Crowell is healthy and hasn’t been acting up all week as rumors say) and has strong kickers with a strong run and pass defense in all around form like we have.

Unfortunately, we’ve seen nothing, absolutely nothing like them all year. We haven’t seen anything close to the bludgeoning death their offense can give without error. Nothing close to their D, both up front and in the back. Nothing close.

I’m excited for the game, but I’ve got absolutely no idea what to expect from one side or the other.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 2, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

More "love" from KH over at the wwl

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:7307136

I am so wanting to make him craw-fish on all his statements this week

I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs

by Dawg2011 on Dec 2, 2011 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

Where's the real analysis?

I, for one, am so sick of hearing absolutely zero analysis from these ESPN clowns. How about these guys take a real look at Georgia’s Defense? If they do, then they’ll see that it is more than a match for LSU’s one dimensional offense. If Georgia puts Jefferson or Lee in passing situations, they will turn the ball over. Furthermore, our offense is the most balanced offense that LSU will face all year. We can run, and we can pass, and as long as we don’t turn it over, we will score some points on the LSU defense – especially on the deep ball – which they are vulnerable to (hello Jacoby Brissett threw one on them – is he Murray’s equal?). Yes, they have us in special teams, but even then, I’m not willing to conced they’re that much better than us.

LSU is the better team, but they’re not THAT much better than us. I like what I’m hearing out of Athens, and I think we’re going to shock ESPN. Prediction: Lou Holtz chokes to death on his own spit, and Mark May’s head explodes when Georgia wins by 10. Then the surviving ESPN “analysts” go into spin control about how both LSU and Alabama “deserve” to play in the National Title game even though neither one of them won their own conference.

by SoGaDawg on Dec 2, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with much of what you said

The only part I’m concerned about is our ability to run and pass. Yes we’ve proven that we can run and pass, but I think it will be a lot harder to do so against LSU’s defense. Still, I’m hoping we can find a way and I’ll be cheering for our Dawgs tomorrow.

by MDDawg on Dec 2, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

our defense is built around stopping the run

more so than LSU’s is actually. and since their offense is so dependent on running the ball… if we win that match up, i think we win the game.

we’ve given up more passing yards than they have, but their passing offense is their weakness. we should make them throw the ball and then attack them however we can. against LSU we’re going to have to find all the yards we can on offense and not leave any points on the field.

but i think, from looking at a lotttttttt of stuff on both of these teams, that the key match up is our run defense vs their offense. if we stop their rushing game (like mississippi state did – yeah really – and like bama did) we stand a good chance at winning this game. if they run it down our throats all day, we’re gonna have to score more than we’ll be able to to win.

by DocSkraynj on Dec 2, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

F*ck Yes!

That’s all I can say, Kyle. F*ck yes. Georgia will win this game. I feel more confident about this game than I did the Florida game. Thank you for making my optimism seem justified.

The King is dead. Long live the King!

by Afghan Dawg on Dec 2, 2011 5:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

So much more excited about this trip to the Dome.

Losing to Boise in Power Ranger suits was humiliating.
Tomorrow I will see a much improved Georgia team, dressed in uniforms that reflect our rich tradition, play the #1 team in the country.
If we win it will be fabulous. If we do our best I will be satisfied.
But if there is too much looking to the sidelines and delay of game penalties I will come undone.

by hbtd on Dec 2, 2011 6:02 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Crap

Just when I was starting to feel a kernel of optimism…..

by Lady Dawg on Dec 2, 2011 10:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I also have this sneaking suspicion Kwame Geathers will come out like a man possessed and show his skills on the big stage.

Also, watching ESPN. May of course talks up LSU big. But Lou picks…..
Georgia! Talks up Murray, and our run D.

Best line “Hey Mark, you lost, be a good loser. Don’t go away mad, just go away.”—Holtz

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 2, 2011 6:37 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

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http://www.facebook.com/groups/118102148242399/?ref=notif&notif_t=group_activity
4 tickets for tomorrow’s game at face value. If you are looking may be a great opportunity I don’t know all the details..

I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs

by Dawg2011 on Dec 2, 2011 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone know anything about these IC rumors?

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"Don’t cuss. Don’t argue with the officials. And don’t lose the game."

by PJsGroundPound on Dec 2, 2011 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

I have only heard of rumors from people mentioning rumors.

I sure dang hope his teammates have a little “come to UGA” talk with him and use peer pressure to fix any ’tude he may have. There is only so much Coach Richt can do.

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by tankertoad on Dec 3, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

It's pure speculation because Richt won't talk about the TBs

so they make up reasons why with no proof and Crowell is the easy story to make.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 3, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

As I thought--thanks

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