College Football Bowl Open Comment Thread, with a Poll Question!
Today marks the start of bowl season, so I thought I’d open up a general postseason comment thread, and raise a couple of questions in the process. (There will be a separate thread this evening for tonight’s basketball game.)
As you know, last year’s Georgia Bulldogs went 6-7 and failed to beat so much as a single Division I-A team with a winning record. This autumn, the Red and Black went 10-3, with a bowl game to go, and much has been made of the supposed weakness of the Classic City Canines’ slate.
The ‘Dawgs lost to the Las Vegas Bowl-bound Boise St. Broncos (11-1), the Capital One Bowl-bound South Carolina Gamecocks (10-2), and the BCS Championship Game-bound LSU Tigers (13-0), and the Athenians’ victims included the Music City Bowl-bound Mississippi St. Bulldogs (6-6), the Liberty Bowl-bound Vanderbilt Commodores (6-6), the Gator Bowl-bound Florida Gators (6-6), the Chick-fil-A Bowl-bound Auburn Tigers (7-5), and the Sun Bowl-bound Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets (8-4). Wins by some or all of those clubs---particularly the 6-6 ones, for whom a bowl victory represents the difference between a winning and a losing season---would validate the toughness of the Bulldogs’ schedule, but, on the other hand, a loss by a rival is, well, a loss by a rival.
Which way will you be rooting this postseason? Let us know in the poll and the comments below.
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I like to see the SEC do well in bowls...
…except for Florida. I hope they lose 223-0. Also, I don’t care if Georgia Tech wins or loses. I don’t even intend to check the score.
by TreeDawgNight on Dec 17, 2011 8:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks, TreeDawgNight.
If I may ask a few follow-up questions, though, does it matter that Georgia Tech had the best regular-season record among the teams Georgia beat? Would the score of Georgia Tech’s bowl matter if Georgia lost to Michigan State (meaning that the Yellow Jackets likely would be the best team Georgia beat)? Would the score of Georgia Tech’s bowl game matter if Auburn and Georgia both lost their bowl games (thereby ensuring that Georgia Tech would, by record, be the best team Georgia beat)?
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Happy to answer.
Personally, if Georgia does not beat Michigan State, then I don’t really care who the best team Georgia beat was. I don’t watch ESPN except to watch football games, so I haven’t really heard much of the “Who has Georgia beat?” meme that has often been referenced here and on other blogs. The Auburn game was epic. The Georgia Tech game was fun to watch as well. I was nervous going into the games against Mississippi State, Tennessee, and Florida, because they hadn’t quite proven themselves to be so mediocre at the times that we played them. So I enjoyed those games, even though they were closer than they should have been in retrospect.
In summary, this has been an incredibly enjoyable season for me. Being born in 1983, I have never before witnessed a 10-game winning streak within a season. No ESPN talking head will take that away from me, regardless of what our opponents’ records are at the end of the bowl season. I will be rooting the same way I always root: I want SEC teams to beat the teams of other conferences, save for Florida, who I hope will suffer the most humiliating and emasculating loss in their history; and Georgia Tech is irrelevant, as they are in every week in which they do not face off against Georgia.
by TreeDawgNight on Dec 17, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, but Ohio St. has never beaten an SEC team in bowls
and I don’t want them to start now (although I’m not denying that a Florida loss would still be funny and heartily wish that Meyer were coaching the game).
by Cherokee's Grip on Dec 17, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, my hatred of Florida is on a near-vineyarddawglike level...
Plus, I work with Florida grads, and I don’t know a soul who roots for Ohio State. So it’s not like I’m going to hear about it if Ohio State wins. I will, on the other hand, let my co-workers hear about it if Ohio State wins.
by TreeDawgNight on Dec 17, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
I suppose this is a meteor game
where not many would object if such an object struck the stadium in which the two were playing. Truth be told, I despise both teams and will laugh cruelly at whichever team finishes the season with a losing record. I despise Florida more personally but also enjoy the “asterisk-and-whatever-against-the-SEC” Ohio St. trash talk.
by Cherokee's Grip on Dec 17, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
I give TreeDawgNight my proxy as his vote is same as mine
……..also hope LSU destroys Alabama.
Who do we open with next year? The Packers?
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I always am in favor of losses by GTU and UF.
If they ever played each other I think my head would explode.
It would be nice....
for all of the 6-6 teams to win. It’s sounds better when talking about the season to say that we beat x teams with winning records, y of which won their bowl game. Delightfully, Auburn has a one game cushion between a loss in the bowl game and a non winning record and so with an Auburn loss, we all win! Going to go watch the Auburn Sucks rap on YouTube. If you’ll excuse me.
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by The Quincy Carter of Accountants on Dec 17, 2011 11:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
So while I voted for "it's complicated"
It’s actually quite simple. I don’t care for Auburn.
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by The Quincy Carter of Accountants on Dec 17, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
No SEC pride here
I’m a Georgia fan not an SEC fan. If the other teams in our conference do well, then bully to them. If they lose, then I’m cool with that too. The only game I really care about is the Outback Bowl. Actually, that’s not completely accurate. I want LSU to win, because I have to deal with way too man Bammers on a daily basis. They have been absolutely insufferable this year.
Sic 'em Dawgs
by ClassicCityDawg on Dec 17, 2011 11:43 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's pretty much my take.
If SEC teams win, then we look better, but if they lose…ha ha, they lost. While I hate for any SEC team to lose to Ohio St., I would laugh pretty hard if those insufferable Gators lost to Urban Meyer’s new team (even if he won’t be on the sidelines for that game, which disappoints my desire for schadenfreude).
by Cherokee's Grip on Dec 17, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly
Maiden post here, but I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels the same way. As Phil Brigma said about hot ice, “It’s the best of both worlds!”
by Georgia Roads Scholar on Dec 17, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, Georgia Roads Scholar.
Good points, all of you.
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Mercenary Other
I voted my TeamSpeedKills Bowl Ballot at ESPN based on a melange of vegas odds, media stories, and gut. On the really tough ones I went Old Testament and tossed a coin so God could choose for me. Oh and I voted against Auburn, naturally.
I grew up in Georgia with a 'Bama Dad. I double hate Auburn.
It's complicated.
With any other school playing Florida, I’d pull for ‘em, but this one is really meteoric. I guess it’s a lose-lose situation for all the right reasons.
With any coach other than James Franklin, I’d not only be pulling for Vandy to win their bowl, but I might just be celebrating the fact that Vandy is in a bowl in the first place with mucho entusiasmo. There’s just something about that guy and I can’t put my finger quite on. Wait a minute…now I remember. He’s an asshole.
I hope Tech wins. We gotta keep Paul Johnson on the Flats.
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by DavetheDawg on Dec 17, 2011 1:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Re Tech: I think I can safely say.....
that in times where Georgia is not the opponent, I don’t root against the triple option. It just feels wrong to root against it.
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by The Quincy Carter of Accountants on Dec 17, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Vandy's idea of a cultural change was to go 6-6 and have a jackwagon coach.
If they lose, they have a losing season. That’s not a cultural change, that is Vandy. I am right with you, I would almost always support Vandy. Franklin is going to go Kiffen at some point. Somethings going to happen. Might be next year, might be 5, but some kid is going to be locked in a closet or Franklin is going to punch a ref, or he is going to leave in the middle of the night.
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by tankertoad on Dec 17, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I will not root for any other SEC team
I hate them all. I used to be somewhat indifferent towards Vandy, but Coach Douche has changed my mind about them.
The SEC is the best conference and nothing short of …..well nothing, can change that. Our conference is going to win a bevy of bowl games, but I will not be rooting for any SEC team. I’ll root for Sparkey’s new team in Columbus before I root for the detested and loathed Gators. I prefer LSU to beat Alabama, but I won’t root for them either.
As far as the rest of the games, I generally root for the underdog. I like a good upset.
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I'm pulling for LSU
because the level of Alabama’s pomposity, which is steroidically high to begin with, could actually blot out the sun if they win.
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by DavetheDawg on Dec 17, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It seems like with all the NC national titles and major in conference game, most all the fanbases have gotten a tude. And I hate all of them as well.
But I do hope Bama loses, and big.
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I do hope Bama's kicker doesn't cost 'em
because his life could be in serious jeopardy if he gaaks it up again. Seriously.
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I never thought much about Bama one way or the other
until I started listening to Finebaum during carpool. If there is a more egocentric fan base anywhere, I have never heard of it.
Really.
Apparently my exposure to fan bases beyond that of the nearby schools is fairly limited. Do either of these schools have their own “Finebaum” I could tune in to to broaden my education?
Well, tune in to NBC every fall and listen to the endless butt kissing of all things ND.
And talking to an Oklahoma fan is about like talking to a Bama fan, except they have had their hearts crushed in the last years and don’t run their mouths as much. But those 3 are absolutely top 3 for arrogance. They also have a boatload of NCs, so I guess it comes with the it.
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My 14 year old son was amazed that there is a major network dedicated to Notre Dame football.
I kind of am too. Do that many people really watch those games anymore? How long can that last?
The last contract was like 7 years or something crazy. It's not going to change.
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I can't believe it is a money maker.
But I guess I am not well traveled enough to appreciate how people view ND outside the South.
They are the Catholic Church's football team. They painted their helmets with actual gold.
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But none of my Catholic friends pull for them,
Their loyalties are to the local schools. It must be different “up north.” (“Up North” being everywhere not the southeast plus parts of Florida.)
Robert Smith and Todd McShay!
Two guys who exist for the sole purpose of making Mark May and Jesse Palmer appear credible.
Right about now, it’s looking like the addition of Temple would do a lot to legitimize the Big East as a conference. Think about that for a minute.
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I am truly amazed that the New Mexico Bowl didn't generate more comments than this.
I mean, they even interviewed Bob Davie in the booth in the first half!
/sarcasm
(Basketball game thread set to open at 9:30 p.m. Eastern, FYI.)
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I just got back from shopping
and I’m so worn out I could barely log onto my computer. I mean, shopping just sucks it right out of you. It’s the ultimate energy vampire.
I’ll try and do better going forward ;-)
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Not a problem.
Now that the Temple Owls have won by a 37-15 final margin a bowl game that was not as close as the score indicated, I will try to spark additional discussion while we get ready for the upcoming tilt involving Ohio (Ohio) and . . . um . . . aw, y’all aren’t actually going to make me go look that one up, are you?
Here goes:
Resolved, Steve Addazio is a better head coach than Will Muschamp.
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It just occurred to me . . .
. . . that every team playing in a bowl game today is a team that has played in Sanford Stadium to serve as schedule fodder for the Bulldogs in a paycheck game, or should have.
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Let's see...
Georgia is all-time:
4-0 vs. Temple
1-0 vs. Wyoming
1-0 vs. Utah State
and have never played Ohio (Ohio) who also call a city named Athens their home, but doesn’t have the same music scene us our Athens. They do a fine Polka, however.
We’re 2-0 against Louisiana-Lafayette and have never played San Diego State, the teams to play later in the New Orleans Termite Bowl*.
*Not really the name of the bowl, but it should be. Termites (specifically, the formosan subterranean termite) were thought to have been introduced as an invasive species in the Southeastern United States shortly after equipment, used in the Pacific Theater, was shipped back to the port of New Orleans at the conclusion of World War 2. This equipment was crated in Asiatic wood which was infested with termites. Once this wood was disposed of in the hot, humid climate of the Mississippi Delta, the termite plague spread throughout the southern states, beginning in and around New Orleans. Les Miles house is infested, according to published reports on other blogs.
Dawgsports: Georgia Football, concision, grammar, the Oxford Comma, BBQ, redundancy and now: forensic entomology. You just can’t get info like this on any blog.
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by DavetheDawg on Dec 17, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Dawg Sports staff trivia team . . .
. . . would rock!
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Hmmm....
I’m smelling a SBNation trivia challenge…
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by DavetheDawg on Dec 17, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Famous Idaho Potato Bowl???
I thought the only famous potato bowl was the Mashed Potato Bowl at KFC????
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by Dawg2011 on Dec 17, 2011 7:27 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
The humanitarians ate all the humans, . . .
. . . so now they’re forced to eat potatoes, along with the vegetarians.
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GeorgiaDogs.com says Fox Sports Net, . . .
. . . but it doesn’t specify which, and, when I went to the Fox Sports Net site, it listed the basketball game as a “buy now” option, which didn’t sound promising to me. I’m planning to start flipping around at 9:55; I expect to be cursing at around 10:05.
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OK, I have never seen the replay official overturn themselves.
Somehow I feel less special when this level of ineptitude is shared with others.
by hbtd on Dec 17, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Penn Wagers has now explained this three different times, in three different ways.
Also, using “boy” to describe a football player? Probably not a good idea.
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Yep, and badly explained, to boot.
Good to know we’re not the only team against whom Penn Wagers botches calls.
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PWG
Playing While Georgia or Penn Wagers Goof
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by Dawg2011 on Dec 17, 2011 8:56 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Final play...
I believe that Utah State player had the sideline with a blocker…and threw it back over the middle.
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Ohio (Ohio) has just claimed the first bowl win in program history.
Folks may scoff, but, under a playoff system, the Bobcats would never have a shot at a win like this.
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Just because you have a playoff
Does not doom the bowls. Currently there are 34 Bowls, in a 16 team playoff where the higher ranked teams hosts at home the first round, it would only require 7 bowls to be utilized (Cotton, Fiesta, Sugar, Rose, Orange, Outback and Cap1). That would still leave 27 bowls and 58 teams needed to fill them. That is a total of 74 teams in post season FBS football….
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That was fun.
Reason # whatever-you-choose that there are not too many bowl games.
by hbtd on Dec 17, 2011 9:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dont care if UGA isnt playing
I will watch the NC and a few other bowls but the only win i care about is ours
by DawgSantaCruz'n on Dec 17, 2011 9:17 PM EST reply actions
Kerwin Bell
interviews for Florida’s vacated offensive coordinator post. Interesting pedigree, but this just seems odd to me.

…and I could watch this for hours. In fact, I have.
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by DavetheDawg on Dec 17, 2011 9:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Again, not only is the spike funny, the fact he gets punked at the end is like the icing.
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I'm disappointed, tankertoad.
I thought this would be an opportune time for you to type: “Spike the ball into your own junk!” :)
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by T Kyle King on Dec 17, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Do you think the flag
was for the punk-shot, or for the junk-shot? Bell should’ve gotten a flag on principle…
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by DavetheDawg on Dec 18, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Good catch, Dave.
On the one hand, I am giddy at the apparently low caliber of the potential coordinators Will Muschamp is pursuing. (Insert “Charlie Weis left a big pair of shoes to fill” joke here.)
On the other hand, I think I would regret seeing Kerwin Bell hired, because seeing a current picture of him would force me to update the mental picture I have of Bell, with the early ’80s butt-cut/porn-stache combo.
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by T Kyle King on Dec 17, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Shoes, Shoes
"Charlie Weis left a big pair of shoes to fill"
Pants, Shirts…pick any item of clothing from Weis
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Thanks
If Bell is hired, and for all I know he may very well be an excellent coordinator, it’ll only serve to divide the UF fanbase which is fairly divided already. Such a shame…
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by DavetheDawg on Dec 18, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
"They've shot him up to get him back out on the field"
Sounds very North Dallas Forty to me.
by hbtd on Dec 17, 2011 9:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
A "North Dallas Forty" reference . . .
. . . always gets a rec from me.
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by T Kyle King on Dec 17, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Don't look now, . . .
. . . but it appears we’re in for a second straight exciting finish on the first day of bowl season!
(Yes, I flipped back over to the New Orleans Bowl after the end of the basketball game. Yes, I know this probably is not a healthy sign.)
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I've watched the whole game
because football is better than basketball.
by Cherokee's Grip on Dec 18, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
I'll consider basketball to be better than or equal to football
when you start worshiping devoutly at the Church of Bobo.
by Cherokee's Grip on Dec 18, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I don't think anyone is saying it's better than or equal to football.
However, it is our second-biggest sport (at least in terms of revenue), and, now that football-first athletics programs like Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee have made a point of being good at it, we need to be good at it, too.
Furthermore, it’s fun to watch, it’s the most fundamentally American of all the sports (inasmuch as basketball is wholly indigenous to the United States, owing nothing to such European forebears as cricket or rugby), it helps pass the time during the offseason, and we have a coach who’s able to win at it without luck, cheating, or leaving!
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It has came a long way since
that Canadian used a soccer ball and 2 peach baskets…
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First and bomb?

Why, oh Lord…why!?
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by DavetheDawg on Dec 19, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I felt like I had to root for ULaLa
since they’ve donated us a win or two over the years.
by Cherokee's Grip on Dec 18, 2011 12:54 AM EST reply actions
I've gotta be honest...
…for the past few years, I’ve considered myself the typical “Georgia first, SEC second” fan. I believe I’ve even chanted “SEC” before. I didn’t actively cheer for, but wanted the SEC team to win in the NC each year at least since this streak started in 2006. I figured it was good for our specific program for our conference to finally be considered the best of the best.
Well, that happened. Nobody in the world can honestly argue with a straight face that any conference is better than the SEC. We own the college football world, and that’s not going to change for awhile.
What I discovered last year was that, basically, there was no way in hell I was going to root for Auburn. After all of the mess of last year’s Auburn team, Scam, the fisticuffs and ugly behavior in their game against us, I discovered that I hate Auburn with an irreplaceable, burning hate. I actively rooted for Oregon to win last year.
We don’t need the conference recognition. We have it. It’s not going anywhere.
So with all of that being said, my new viewpoint is an incredibly simple one:
“Georgia first, everybody else can go to hell.”
It doesn’t matter what everybody else is doing. If we take care of business and go undefeated in the SEC, we’ll go the the NC. It’s on our shoulders each year, so (for the most part) I say screw the strength of schedule arguments. It’s just something for them to talk about. I want every single SEC school to feel the pain of loss. Let’s face it, Gator tears aren’t the only ones that taste sweet. I want a mix drink of Bourbon and a Gator/Tiglesman/Cock/Vol/Commie/Bengal/Rebbear/Tide/Fauxdog/Cat/Hog tear cocktail.
So yes, I hope that all of the SEC teams, and Boise State, lose their bowl games. As for the NC game, I choose LSU because the Tide doesn’t deserve to be called NCs over LSU.
that being said, Go Dawgs!
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I'm with you on the Auburn/Oregon dilemma last year.
Actually, after watching the way Fairley handled himself in our game, seeing Cam Newton get reinstated simply because the man who pimped him out happened to be his father, and experiencing the “All in” bullshit spouted by every Auburn fan I know, it wasn’t a dilemma at all. I rooted hard for Oregon.
That being said, after stealing their lunch money and kicking them in the teeth this year, combined with the departure of Smiley McNewton and Thugs McFairley, they have reverted to being my (distant) second most-loathed team.
by TreeDawgNight on Dec 18, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I'm with TreeDawgNight.
I can’t bring myself to root for Florida ever. Fortunately, Arkansas saved me from what could have been a very uncomfortable UF/USC game if USC still needed another loss. As for everyone else, I’m fine with them rubbing the SEC’s superiority in the other conferences’ faces.
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