ESPN's Way Too Early 2012 SEC Heisman Contenders
Before the first snap of the 2012 season (heck, before the last snap of the 2011 season), Chris Low taps the following as his 2012 SEC Heisman Trophy Contenders: Honey Badger DGAS, Marcus Lattimore, Aaron Murray, Tyler Wilson (emphasis mine).
I've contacted Mark May for a comment, but I still don't have confirmation on whether or not Georgia plays anyone next year.
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Didn't realize Tyler Wilson would be back next year
I suppose that is good for us since Ark. will likely be playing Florida.
If ya can't beat em, bitch about how they illegally operate scooters
by Dawg in Beaumont on Dec 12, 2011 3:07 PM EST reply actions
I have heard rumors that UF would be playing at aTm
I imagine with the scheduling and Arky pushing so heavily to have their cross-divisional rival changed to Mizzou that the Razorbacks would get Mizzou on their schedule next year.
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Bobby Petrino getting out of something when it gets difficult?
I’ve heard something about that before…. but for the life of me I can’t remember where.
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by RedCrake on Dec 12, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There's a myriad of reasons they want to switch cross divisional rivals to Mizzou
They think that Mizzou is a natural rival for them given the whole border war element. Just don’t mention to them that two teams have played only five times, the last two meetings being in bowl games and the last regular season meeting being in 1963. So yeah. Natural rivalry there. Which has never been played.
Sinister minds think Arkansas pushing to always play Mizzou is meant to kill the ShowMeTigers’ recruiting base in Texas. While in the Big 12, Missouri could get Texas recruits, the theory goes, because they regularly played in Texas and against Texas schools. By keeping aTm as their cross rival, Missouri can keep making that claim. One of (THE?) Arkansas’ biggest states to recruit is Texas. If Arkansas can shove Missouri out of Texas by killing the annual aTm/Mizzou series, Arkansas would then have less of a threat when trying to poach Texas recruits.
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by The984 on Dec 12, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Whoops, one more reason
Some people think Arkansas just doesn’t like having to travel to SCAR every other year. Yeah. Well no one does. And aTm would like it even less. So whatev.
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See you in Columbia, in 2012!
Not sure which weekend though.
- FOW
by skandrewj62j on Dec 12, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
If I still leave in KS, and UGA does play MO which is likely, I will be going.
Be nice if they went ahead and got the scheudule out.
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I project us travelling to Mizzou for 2012
I think they would want to try and keep as many games in the current rotation as possible. With six East games, we should be home for three and away for three. If the rotation stays the same, we would be the home team for Tenn, Vandy, and Florida and away for SCAR and UK. That would make Mizzou away also. Unknown which weekend though.
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The AD is committed to 7 home games.
It seems all the talk has Mizzou in the East, which means we would have to play them. So, either they are coming, or we are going. We got Tech at home, so maybe that is part of us traveling.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
We'll have 7 home games
Next year, Tenn, Vandy, and our rotating West opponent (I think we will keep Ole Miss) should all be in Athens. We’ll also host Buffalo, Florida Atlantic, Georgia Southern, and Georgia Tech. That puts us at 7. In 2013 though, we’ll likely only have 6 home games (four true SEC home games, two OOC home).
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This make complete sense. And paves the way to Atlanta.
Next year, they are going to say “we didn’t play anybody” – I dont care. I will take 12-0 and on to Atlanta. And Auburn is no gimmie, Vandy may improve, UT can only improve, who knows about UF, and SC away next year is a BIG game. I will take Buffalo then stomping Mizzou to start for sure. Greg McGarity is a genius.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
It's no closer than Fayetteville
—about six hours. Just sayin.’
Likely September 8 if they keep the game on the second weekend of the season and the season still starts Labor Day weekend
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SC may move, I think a cupcake, then Mizzou would be a very good start.
And McGarity knows this.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
I look forward to the yearly "______ DIDNT PLAY NE1!!!!!!!!1"
discussion
If ya can't beat em, bitch about how they illegally operate scooters
by Dawg in Beaumont on Dec 12, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
If you win all of them, it doesn't matter who you played. Unless you're Bama.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
We have 12 games against Purdue?
I’ve contacted Mark May for a comment, but I still don’t have confirmation on whether or not Georgia plays anyone next year.
/vineyardawg EDSBSing
GATA!
Well we know it won't be Michael Dyer...
Is it ever wrong to take a shot at the Barn???
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by PJsGroundPound on Dec 12, 2011 3:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Honey Badger DGAS
= Honey Badger Don’t Give A S***
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by RedCrake on Dec 12, 2011 7:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously.
Stupidest nickname ever. Stupidest haircut ever. Stupidest catch phrase ever.
The dude just needs to concentrate on being a great football player (which he is) and let the other crap go.
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Yea, but the real honey badger seriously dont give a ....
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
Couldn't agree more.
Honey badger? It completely ruined what I thought was a hilarious youtube video. It’s along the lines of calling Tebow Superman. The media takes a nickname and runs with it because it’s something to talk about. I say just let the guy play. I guess what bothers me about the Honey Badger moniker is that I feel like if it weren’t for his nickname, the media wouldn’t be as in love with him. While I feel like he’s an amazing football player, I just can’t help but think that they only included him in the Heisman finalists because of the notoriety of the whole Honey Badger epidemic instead of his football abilities.
by Swarles_Barkley on Dec 13, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can see how a an opposing fanbase would hate the nickname...
I’ve wondered myself how much the nickname aided his Heisman campaign.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the face of the Alabama fanbase, the Manager of the blog RollBamaRoll.com, and the kind of person Alabama fans get their football perspective from:
"Been saying it for six f**king years now...That g**damn hurricane just wasn’t big enough." - Outsidethesidelines, Manager, RollBamaRoll.com
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/12/3/2607240/sec-championship-game-open-thread#
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Hopefully I made myself clear.
I do believe he deserved the Heisman talk – I’m just under the opinion that the media decided his nickname was his selling point, not his playing.
by Swarles_Barkley on Dec 13, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
concur
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the face of the Alabama fanbase, the Manager of the blog RollBamaRoll.com, and the kind of person Alabama fans get their football perspective from:
"Been saying it for six f**king years now...That g**damn hurricane just wasn’t big enough." - Outsidethesidelines, Manager, RollBamaRoll.com
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/12/3/2607240/sec-championship-game-open-thread#
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Why so harsh on the nickname? Stupidest ever? Did you not watch the XFL?
I can see why other fanbases wouldn’t like it, but stupidest ever?
Aaron Murray approves!
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the face of the Alabama fanbase, the Manager of the blog RollBamaRoll.com, and the kind of person Alabama fans get their football perspective from:
"Been saying it for six f**king years now...That g**damn hurricane just wasn’t big enough." - Outsidethesidelines, Manager, RollBamaRoll.com
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/12/3/2607240/sec-championship-game-open-thread#
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Or Aaron Murray is wearing that shirt because it was a fairly well known meme that's been around for close to a year
And fairly well known memes, especially at the height of their popularity, now tend to get co-opted by stores like Hot Topic and branded all over clothing. If anything, this shirt is just another example that the internet is leaking, same as Mathieu’s nickname.
Personally, I’m waiting for a player to revive, and subsequently steal, a Mr. T Ate My Balls nickname.
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by The984 on Dec 13, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess the chances of a picture of AM looking GQ is pretty slim.
But in honest truth, that looks about like how I dressed in college myself.
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Precisely, The984.
Nothing personal, LSU Jonno; I respect the kid’s talent immensely, and, while he wasn’t the difference between Louisiana State winning and losing the SEC Championship Game, he certainly provided the spark that swung the momentum decisively from one side to the other.
Aaron Murray certainly isn’t wearing a Tyrann Mathieu shirt there. The YouTube video is funny; the nickname based on the YouTube video is dumb.
By the way, has there ever been a candid photograph of Aaron Murray that wasn’t embarrassing?
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The crazy part is, this is an improvement.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
Instead of a Special Teams maybe
CMR should hire a fashion consultant for AM
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
Bobo is the quarterbacks coach,
so maybe he can help AM procure a more balanced wardrobe.
by Cherokee's Grip on Dec 13, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
"has there ever been a candid photograph of Aaron Murray that wasn't embarrassing"
Embarrassing is subjective. I actively enjoy, and not in a laughing at him manner, his goofball personality. It’s heartening to see someone care so little about what others are saying that he can just do what he wants. Unless he’s doing this all ironically; that would make him a hipster and cause me to unironically hate him.
Then again, this is coming from the guy that does wear a Three Keyboard Cat Moon shirt. And a community college shirt (albeit one for the show Community). And a free law school shirt he got from a law school he didn’t even attend. So maybe I’m not the best judge.
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I mostly agree - he's just a young man being himself at UGA. Thats a good thing.
The reason I say “mostly” is – be careful holding a Natty in a photo with some other schools gear.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
I know
he could have at least been holding a Yuengling or something
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
by Dawg2011 on Dec 13, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Unless he’s doing this all ironically; that would make him a hipster"
I think you got it.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 13, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
He also wears purses...
drinks crap beer, and goes to see the Twilight movies. Not a good track record there Jonno.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 13, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Hey!
You can talk crap about my quarterback, but you leave my beer alone!
/Hastodrinkthecheapstuffsohecanafforddecentbourbon
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by RedCrake on Dec 13, 2011 11:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
At least you can drink Yuenling or something
made Tanker laugh above, so I thought I would try it again
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
Difference between the "cheap stuff"...
and good beer is like$3-5 per 12. That’s not a difference maker.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 13, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I either can afford decent beer or I cannot. I don’t scrap pennies for natty lite or any of that crap.
by Swarles_Barkley on Dec 14, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Depends on how you look at it I guess
A 12pack a week at $5 is $260 a year. That’s a lot of Makers. It’s also 10% of my monthly paycheck… which to me seems like a lot for beer.
Plus this way I get to live up to the Techie stereotype of Georgia fans.
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by RedCrake on Dec 14, 2011 12:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
DAMN, i just spent 10.99 on a 12 pack
3 more and that is a handle of decent liquor…..you may have a point
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
I have no standards when it comes to beer
As it allows me to have some standards when it comes to liquor. It’s a life decision I made years ago. I’m unashamed.
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by RedCrake on Dec 14, 2011 12:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
They were the sponsor of The World Series of Poker!
How are you supposed to argue with that?
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by RedCrake on Dec 14, 2011 12:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also
I think the root of this philosophy may be derived from a college experience I had prior to a Georgia game. Let’s just say it involved a plastic bucket of Schlitz. While I can’t stomach the stuff now, it did the job.
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by RedCrake on Dec 14, 2011 12:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Meanwhile...
… Keith Marshall is the early favorite for the 2015 Heisman Trophy.
You heard it here first!
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It's . . .
. . . a fact!
(That makes up for the Doogie Howser .gif above.)
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No nicknames, please.
Especially not one of the rodent family.
(are badgers considered rodents?)
by Swarles_Barkley on Dec 13, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
I don't intend on bestowing any animal-related nicknames upon Keith Marshall.
Now, if you want to start calling his 2015 Heisman campaign the “Marshall Plan”… well, then that’s a whole ’nother thing altogether.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 13, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So you're saying Keith Marshall will be the key factor in rebuilding European economies
And here I thought the fans had too high of expectations for Crowell…
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by The984 on Dec 13, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Could the new scheduling
move the South Carolina game back a few weeks? I wouldn’t complain.
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Seth asked the AD about it, and it is possible. And he is a scheduling guru, I think we go cupcake, MIzzou.
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Agreed.
I’d rather play Auburn early and South Carolina late than South Carolina early and Auburn late.
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I believe Murray’s candidacy depends perhpas far to much on the viability of Malcom Mitchell as a true #1 receiver. Mitchell’s talent has never been in question, but we’ve yet to see that AJ Green-dependability from him. I know that’s asking a lot, but I know the kid has that kind of ability.
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Uh, really? The kid dropped one pass at a bad time, and made a dozen bad passes look good.
He caught 3 deep balls I remember clearly that were not thrown well.
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As great as A.J. was his freshman season
He still dropped a few. Tennessee, at home… in the end zone comes to mind. Mitchell is the truth. Murray is going to have to improve upon his accuracy next season. As solid as he was, he missed a couple of shots. It’s fixable.
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by DavetheDawg on Dec 12, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Given what we saw this season
I’d say it depends more on whether or not Orson Charles declares for the draft.
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by RedCrake on Dec 12, 2011 7:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
And I'd say Crowell stepping up
Murray looks a lot better going off a strong running game than he did trying to carry the load.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 12, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
True.
By the way, also true of just about every quarterback ever.
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I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist,
but I don’t think a Georgia player will get the sort of media attention required to win a Heisman unless we literally see a Herschel Walker type player again. Call it PWG, Mark May syndrome, or plain old anti-Georgia bias, but the media (read “ESPN”) really likes to sink its teeth into who it want to win early on and not let go. Andrew Luck still got 2nd place in the voting, ahead of Richardson and Montee Ball – two much more deserving candidates for this very reason.
On a more specific note, with Aaron Murray I just don’t think he’s a flashy enough player to generate the kind of talk he would need. I hope I’m proven wrong, but Murray has a tendency to quietly lead the conference in a lot of categories and therefore goes unnoticed among certain media-types.
by Swarles_Barkley on Dec 13, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno, how flashy is Andrew Luck?
I haven’t watched a ton of Stanford games, but he just seems like he goes about his business, albeit better than just about anybody else does. I think you’re very right about the narrative becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy in a lot of cases, but let’s see AM have a truly outstanding season—on a truly outstanding team—and see if he doesn’t get some talk. And remember, he’s got two years left (potentially).
Andrew Luck completed 70% of his passes this year for 8.5 yards a toss, with 35 TDs to 9 picks, on an 11-1 team; Murray was 58.8, 7.7, 33/12 in almost the same number of attempts. If Murray’s completing 2/3 of his passes next year and we go 11-1 (which, hey, 70% completions would help…), he’s absolutely in the conversation for ‘12 and would be a strong favorite for ’13. But that’s a big if.
I guess my argument is that putting up those numbers doesn't generate talk.
It only validates preseason talk. Someone with no preseason hype has to do RGIII types of things to win. But yes, we’ll see. I’d like to see Murray get some Heisman talk this year or next. He works hard enough for it.
by Swarles_Barkley on Dec 13, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
I realize Chris Low's ESPN blog isn't a feature on Gameday but....
I’d like to see Murray get some Heisman talk this year or next.
Isn’t that exactly what’s happening?
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by The Quincy Carter of Accountants on Dec 13, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
So I'm the only one who hates off season attention and hype
and wish every winter/summer, ESPN and the rest of the national analysts would spend their time telling us how much we suck, our players stink, and we’re gonna go 2-10, at best?
http://sportsandgrits.com/
I see both sides.
We do better if our players aren’t praised the whole off season. Yet, at the same time, as a fan I like seeing Georgia get its due credit for its success in the media.
by Swarles_Barkley on Dec 13, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Personally, I'm fine with being denied the Heisman Trophy.
It’s the most overrated award in all of sports. It rarely goes to the right player, and it’s given out before the bowl games are played. That made sense when bowl games were viewed as glorified exhibitions and didn’t count either statistically or in the determination of a national champion, but now they do. Honoring the best player of the season before the season is even over is dumb.
Beyond that, John Heisman was an offensive innovator who ran up scores and insulted his opponents after beating them. He coached at Auburn, Clemson, and Georgia Tech. Wanting to see a Georgia player win the Heisman Trophy is like wanting to see a Georgia player win the Spurrier Trophy.
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Spurrier Trophy?
Must be a bronze rectum…
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by Lakepoets on Dec 13, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, I agree 100%.
We argue so much about how to find the best team in college football and whether the BCS or playoffs can do it. Yet somehow we think it’s perfectly logical to eyeball test choosing the best player in all of college football.
Teamspeedkills did a great poll a while back posting stats of QB’s and RB’s without telling you their name. It listed yards/%’s/overall records/records vs top 25 teams, among others. The results spoke volumes. RGIII ran away with the QB votes despite all the talk at the time being about Luck (at this point in the season, RGIII was just barely getting attention, but Luck was still the heavy favorite).
And that doesn’t even touch on how they neglect to consider defensive players. The only ones who come close or actually do win are ones that play on special teams and/or offensive along with their defensive role.
by Swarles_Barkley on Dec 13, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Perhaps Orson Charles can win the Heisman next year
Then break it with his ass.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 13, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Don't tell him to strike the pose
or he might take you literally.
by Cherokee's Grip on Dec 13, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
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