Crouching Tiger, Hidden Bulldog: A Few Things Every Georgia Fan Should Know About LSU
by RedCrake on Dec 1, 2011 8:01 PM EST
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I'm gonna be honest with you. I hadn't planned to write a "Few Things" post about LSU. The primary reason for this being that, until a couple of weeks ago, I didn't believe we'd be facing them. Winning the East and heading to the SEC championship was a big surprise. A pleasant surprise, mind you, but a surprise nonetheless.
In the interest of full disclosure, I really should share something with you. LSU is my second favorite SEC team. Ok, maybe "second favorite" is the wrong way to put it. I hate everybody but Georgia, want them to lose every game they play, and generally want misfortune and misery to befall all of them. I just want this a little bit less when it comes to LSU. I appreciate the style of football they play and I've found their fans to be knowledgeable, friendly, and enjoyable to be around over the years (of course, your mileage may vary).
But you know something? Just because I didn't expect us to be in this position and I don't totally hate LSU doesn't mean I'm off the hook. Here is your weekly helping of facts, fictions, and ramblings. In short, everything you, as a Georgia Bulldogs fan, must know about the LSU Tigers.
Hit the jump while I drop a little knowledge on ya...
1) Les Miles: Renaissance Man
Leslie Christina Virginia Dorothy Miles (b. 1953) is an intriguing and complex man. A man of varied passions and interests. Leslie is passionate for the game of college football, about this there can be no doubt. But there is so much more to the man, the myth, and the legend.
As a young boy, Leslie was abducted from his home in Ohio by his uncle (a former circus performer/current gypsy fortune-teller). Though the boy was recovered several days later, the damage was already done: Leslie became obsessed with (among other things) ball caps, the smell of freshly cut grass, and an unshakable desire to pursue knowledge of voodoo and dark magic. Aside from this unfortunate incident, Les, or "The Hat" as his friends had taken to calling him, had a relatively normal childhood.
Once The Hat made it to college, however, things began to get very dark. All his urges, which had been drilled out of him by a series of shock treatments and supervised sessions of self-flagellation, began to return. Unable to control himself, he shacked up with a Voodoo Queen and carpeted their entire apartment in lush Fescue.
Several years later, his now wife, Kathy, found him face down and naked in the snow on the side of the highway. Undeterred by his ragged appearance and preoccupation with voodoo magic, Kathy nursed him back to health and helped him pursue his passion for college football.
Among the other things you may not know about Leslie Elvira Miles:
- For a time, he ran the Midwest's largest underground cockfighting ring and was known as "El Pollo Loco Con Queso" by his enemies.
- He has run over a dozen marathons (winning the Boston Marathon in the late 90's before being disqualified for using a banned wheatgrass supplement).
- He has a long history of gardening for both sustenance and pleasure.
- He enjoys underwater basket weaving, long walks on the beach, and curling up by the fire with his favorite chew toy.
All in all, Les Miles is a man who deserves our fear and respect, if not our allegiance.
Since I do fear and respect the man, I sent him some cologne this week to commemorate his upcoming dominance in the Dome:
2) He's Grrrrreat!
Georgia fans are a soft-hearted and loving lot when it comes to live animal mascots. Other than the #1 live mascot of all time, I have to say that LSU's Mike the Tiger is probably the coolest. I mean, come on people, its a live freaking tiger! Like UGA, LSU had to fend off the ridiculous protestations of PETA when Mike V passed away (although I don't think they suggested that the Bayou Bengals replace him with a robot tiger), so in many ways they are kindred spirits in the realm of mascots.
Given the similarities our two universities share in this area, I think we should team up and work together to dispose of the other absurd mascots that populate the SEC. I say we lure Cocky, Albert/Alberta, Mr. Commodore, Aubie, the Rebel Black Bear, Smokey (the fake one), etc. into Mike's habitat with the promise of an appearance in that ever-elusive SEC Championship game. We get rid of those fuzzy ne'er-do-wells, Mike gets a tasty and nutritious meal, and I get to watch one of the great movie scenes of all time play out with a slightly more violent ending:
3) It Softens, Moisturizes, and Gives You That "Just Fried" Shimmer
I could use this space to wax poetic about the numerous LSU alumni that have gone on to make a significant mark in the fields of business, politics, entertainment, an so forth. But that would do a disservice to an alumna who has had an immense impact on the fields of dermatology, oral hygiene, dating/human sexuality, adolescent development, and culinary arts. That individual is Jennifer Fleet-Waldmire.
The great-great granddaughter of chapstick inventor Charles Browne Fleet and the granddaughter of corn dog creator Ed Waldmire, Jr., Fleet-Waldmire was destined for greatness. Beginning with a single flavor which was inspired by her time "interacting" with fellow students at LSU, she revolutionized the lip balm market forever.
4) A Chorus of Booooooooos
Every week I like to take a moment to highlight a crazy ass politician from the home state of our upcoming opponent. This week, I have no choice but to recognize former New Orleans mayor, Ray Nagin. I'm not going to assess the quality of Mayor Nagin's performance following Hurricane Katrina because this isn't a political blog. I'm not going to comment on Nagin's remarks regarding his belief that it is God's will for New Orleans to be a "chocolate city"... because, frankly, I think that's pretty hilarious on its own.
Instead, I'd like to tell you about a beautiful evening in January 2008. The Dawgs were about to take on the "chip on their shoulder" Hawaii Warriors (h/t Mark May) in the Sugar Bowl following the 2007 season. My father and I entered the Super Dome early and enjoyed the festivities prior to the game. One of these was the introduction of the various city, state, and school VIPs. Michael Adams (Il Duce) was announced to a rousing chorus of boos from the fans in attendance (I can't remember the specific reason, but douchebaggery was involved). Next up, Mayor Nagin was announced. The deafening roar of "BOOOOOOO!" dwarfed the contempt that Adams had received. So I'd like to take this moment to congratulate Ray Nagin for being more hated than Mike Adams... truly an impressive feat.
5) Toast When We Coast & Drank When We Stank
Instead of giving you the usual Toast When We Coast piece this week, I felt it was most appropriate to include it in this diatribe (inspired by LSU as it is). It isn't the most original idea but we're playing the Tigers (with all that purple), former home to the most famous "dranker" of all. Win, lose, or draw, you gotta hit dat...
All this bar fight nonsense the kids do nowadays? Children, listen to your Uncle JaMarcus...
Where You Can Get Your Hands On It: Illegally. Legally. Your choice.
Now you, the sacrificial lamb (Georgia Bulldogs fan), know everything you must about your new purple and gold overlords. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and observations about the SEC Championship game as well as any drankin' suggestions in the comments. Until next time...
GO DAWGS!!!
P.S. Dawgs Win 16-10... No offensive touchdowns. Hey, I warned you I was high on CTG!
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I've covered in great detail in the past my fan status vis a vis LSU.
Like you, they are my second favorite team. Unlike you, however, I actively root for the Tigers, and take great joy in their success. (My father spent part of his educational career matriculating in Red Stick.)
I love the Golden Band From Tigerland. They run a very close second to the Redcoats in my heart, but even the Redcoats have nothing like those first notes played by the LSU band that send their fans into raucous waves of fiery glee. If you’ve ever been in a stadium when the band strikes up that first line that says, “Where’s that Tiger??” then you know what I’m talking about when I say it’s enough to give anyone goosebumps. The videos on YouTube don’t nearly do it justice, but can be seen here. (You can’t really hear the band in this version, but it gives you a better idea of how loud the stands are.)
And before the game, the band actually plays the same song while running (yes, running) into the stadium. That can be seen here.
I know every word of the fight song. I’ve memorized their pregame ritual and in-game repertoire. And their version of Tiger Rag is the most authentic to the original piece (which, being from Louisiana, is as it should be).
It pains me when we have to play LSU, because there is no doubt and no denying where my first loyalties lie. If we were to play every single SEC Championship Game in which we appear against LSU (which has very nearly happened), I would be cheering my heart out for the Georgia Bulldogs to stomp their asses every single time.
Still, though, if someone looks my way during the game this Saturday and sees me quietly singing along with “Hey Fightin’ Tigers,” or some other song being played by the Golden Band from Tigerland, please be understanding.
Editor, Dawg Sports.
Go Dawgs!
Like you I have a love for uga and lsu, (of course today there is no doubt where my loyalties lie!). My father was born in Winder, ga and all of his side of the family went to uga (with the exception of one ga tech cousin), we still love her, but back in the 50’s my dad went to Louisiana and fell in love with a Louisiana girl, thus me. I was raised to love purple and gold but I always enjoyed watching my dad squirm when the two teams played, he would applaud lsu doing well but in his heart he wanted Georgia to kick lsus ass, and when Georgia would win he was always the gentleman to us. Our family still all love each other very much and football rivalry makes it even better! My dad is gone now, but I know he is pullin for them dawgs. Geaux tigers today, but geaux dawgs any other day!geaux tigers beat them dawgs but if it is anyone else against Georgia, geaux to hell!
by jamesdalasmith on Dec 3, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
jamesdalasmith - thank you for dropping by and providing your story.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
Maybe we all like them because we so rarely play them, but I like them too.
They are fun to watch. There fans are hilarious. There coach is so entertaining. Even when they beat us, they don’t really make me mad.
When LSU
beats us, it hurts. When Marc Curles beats us, it’s criminal.
/stillain’toverit.
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"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
SEC Officiating: Undefeated Since 1932
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Sacrificing goats, chugging Maker's Mark, and walking underneath The Arch.
by RedCrake on Dec 1, 2011 9:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah,
Not sure if I was basing it off of anything really, just knew those were the four guys I wanted.
by Swarles_Barkley on Dec 1, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Surprised at your political choice,...
the state has so many.
From Edwin Edwards using Laissez Les Bons Temps Rouler while running for reelection and under indictment.
To current Senator Mary Landrieu, who won her seat in part thanks to more votes than there were voters in souther parishes.
To the Longs, the wonderful Longs, particularly Earl. By far my favorite part of Southern Politics with Dr. Bullock, was Earl stories. Things like just driving around the Bayou, occasionally stopping at country stores and buying them out of various products, like all the potatoes. Or when Earl was committed to an Insane Asylum by his wife, only to tell the Dr running that hospital that if he was released, the Dr would be named the state’s Surgeon General. The Dr did, and he was appointed to the state’s top medical post. So the wife took Earl across state lines to commit him.
The stories of political hilarity out of Louisiana are the absolute best.
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I am in the same boat here
Having lived in Houston, TX with a company that started in Baton Rouge, and working in the Oil Construction Industry; LSU is my second favorite SEC team. There were many Saturdays where (if I could not find a slice of heaven to watch the DAWGS play – or even before or after a UGA game) you could find me at a LSU friend’s house, a LSU friendly bar cheering on the purple and gold. I knew some of their songs and cheers better than some LSU fans. I have even dated a lady or two from Cajun Country. I like their fan base and find them to be as ever-loving of football as our fan base here. When I visit Louisiana I love the cuisine. No doubt about it, I will urge LSU to victory every time they play except for one…and one of those times is pulling around the corner in 2 days. So for one day out of the year, I will actively hate the Tigers of LSU; not for the same reasons that I hate Florida, Auburn, Tech, Tennessee, Alabama or South Carolina; but for the simple reason they are playing our DAWGS. The following day, depending on the outcome, I will gently jab my LSU friends or take their jabs and the next time we meet in person we will share a beer and talk about the good points, bad points and why one team or the other lost the game. We will sit at the same table and break bread. When we part ways, it will be with a friendly “Next time”.
And to Hell with gatech
Just read where the Aggies of A&M
will be breaking in a new coach on their inaugural season in the SEC…OUCH. At least he can ask Dooley and Muschamp for advice on handling things
And to Hell with gatech
Yes, I'm the same Dr. Morpheus...
whose secret reconnaissance on Jordy Hultberg’s Baton Rouge call in show was featured in the Junkyard Blawg yesterday. I’m flying in from Baton Rouge Saturday morning and flying out Saturday night at 10pm hoping I don’t have to leave before the game’s over- I attended the SEC C game when LSU defeated Tennessee on their way to the NC and the game stopped every single play for commercials. Sometimes they called time during the play and made everyone stand in place for a station break; then, they blew a whistle and everyone started running again. And the worst part was, Tennessee had on those day-glo orange pants that looked positively, what’s the strongest adjective here?… positively horrific on their offensive lineman with those gigantic butts… and LSU kicked their butts behind the arm of what’s-his-name who was gonna win 4 Heisman trophies but ended up at, umm, Florida A&M or somewhere. Anyway, I don’t need to worry about the game, since it will be over before halftime, as the incredibly large, fast and ferocious Purple Tigers wipe the floor with Jarvis Jones’ jersey… of course, Jarvis will be wearing the jersey at the time of the wiping. But, hey, loyalty requires that I attend with my daughter, the TIger fan who is in her third year of law school at a well-known law school in New York City and will no doubt be thrilled to see the cruel Roman spectacle of Tigers eating hapless Dawgs before the eyes of the nation. And enthralled to learn things about Les Miles that have largely been kept out of the local press. Later, Thugachumps…
"Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees." Thomas J. Jackson
Hey asshole, don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
Now now tt
Its not nice to make fun of the mentally handicapped. Let’s just pat him on the head and send him on his way.
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Sacrificing goats, chugging Maker's Mark, and walking underneath The Arch.
by RedCrake on Dec 1, 2011 10:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Actually I'm not sure what I just read
Hit the profile and he’s
A) A stealth troll
B) Doing some kind of LSU troll impression
C) Batshit crazy
B & C I’m ok with (I guess?). Don’t know what to make of it. I’ll defer to your judgement.
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by RedCrake on Dec 1, 2011 10:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well there was a reference to a friend of Bill's..
who posts on his AJC Junkyard Blawg under the name Dr. Morpheus and how he was helping him do reconnaisance on how LSU fans were feeling about the game. However, since that guy is an actual UGA fan, I don’t think this is really the same person.
His biggest mistake was assuming that many people on this site would get a reference from an AJC article.
His biggest mistake was the first sentence and last.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
That cannot be the same Dr. Morpheus
that Bill King refers to. I am thinking a hacked account or a very bad LSU troll impression??
And to Hell with gatech
He just changed his profile
To indicate he meant it as satire (which we didn’t get). I assume he was referring to us anyway… since he called us The Dawg Post.
It probably would’ve read better as satire if he hadn’t gone all James Joyce on us.
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by RedCrake on Dec 1, 2011 11:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought he was
being sarcastic, myself. But it didn’t seem to come across that way to a lot of other folks. The phrase “cruel Roman spectacle” kinda gave it away to me. Serious trolls are usually not that good and they use a lot of CAPS.
Back off, man. I'm a scientist.
The worst thing about it
is being a distraction from a brilliant piece of writing in a UGA community. Other than that, it’s like dreaming you’re Hunter Thompson and waking up to discover you actually fell asleep in freshman English class.
"Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees." Thomas J. Jackson
I am thankful we cleared it all up Dr Morpheus, as you can see, the staff here cross talks to sort things out.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
You were right to challenge the comment
The discussion process worked it out and it’s all good.
"Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees." Thomas J. Jackson
by Dr. Morpheus on Dec 2, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, I'm unbanned!
Sorry to cause confusion, my bad.
"Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees." Thomas J. Jackson
I think it was a misunderstanding
The initial post seemed to jump around a lot and by the time it got to the stuff at the end (and I’m only speaking for myself), I couldn’t tell where it was coming from. Upon re-reading it, I could see how it could be meant in a humorous fashion.
Its all good, Dr. Morpheus.
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by RedCrake on Dec 1, 2011 11:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know this more than anyone if you frequent the AJC comments
But, judging by the comments over there, most of the internet is populated by trolls. We just don’t tolerate them over here unless they bring an intelligent argument with them. There’s kind of a “ban first, sort it out later” policy here because there are so many people that want to come here and start an argument for their own pleasure. I’ve enjoyed my time as a commenter here (which is not as long as it should’ve been) because the conversation is intelligent and kind-spirited. I guess we take offense to anyone who seems to be attacking the University of Georgia, although you really weren’t. Anyway, no harm, no foul and Go Dawgs!
by Dawg from Canton on Dec 1, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BTW, the article is hilarious
If it’s possible to delete the offending post, go for it. I don’t see a mechanism of doing it myself. No point in explaining the attempt at satire but I’m going to the game and anticipating the Dawgs earn some respect from the LSU Kool-aid drinkers. Wiping the floor with Jarvis Jones, really, you guys thought I was serious? Not in this lifetime.
Later, pals.
"Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees." Thomas J. Jackson
And lower my comment count? Never :-)
And you have to admit that “wipe the floor with Jarvis Jones” does legitimately sound like some of the delusional garbage coming out of the West.
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by RedCrake on Dec 1, 2011 11:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It was supposed to, of course...
Look, I’ve been going to games since Johnny Griffith was coach. I went to Barrow Elementary School and sold Cokes at baseball games after school. I had a crush on Coach Red Lawson’s daughter. I went to basketball games in the Barn when Ray Jeffords and Billy Rado were starters. I saw Fran Tarkenton play. I was born a Dawg and will die one. This is not big deal, guys. I enjoy the ambience here and will certainly be careful not to rattle anyone’s cage in the future.
"Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees." Thomas J. Jackson
by Dr. Morpheus on Dec 1, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Just look at this way
The satire was so convincing that it got you banned. That’s quality work :-)
Like I said above, its all good.
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by RedCrake on Dec 1, 2011 11:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously...
Achievement UNLOCKED.
Also, TT, it’s “Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.” ;)
Or for Futurama fans....
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, ‘cause I don’t want ass prints on my new door!
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by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 2, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, you failed. From your first line. You came across as a holier than than thou arrogant person. Work on it.
Even in this response you continue.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
I saw Herschel play. And I had class with Garrison Hearst. So, that makes me cool?
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
Actually yes... yes it does
I had freshman English with Musa Smith. Thats all I got.
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Sacrificing goats, chugging Maker's Mark, and walking underneath The Arch.
lol. That's low on my list of cool. The rest is PG-13 at best. ) Unless you count flybys for UGA - Auburn. That was really cool.
Your damn good dawg bro.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
Thanks man.
The highlight of my first year would have to be falling asleep in the middle of Lumpkin St. and then hiding from the UGA PD in the bushes beside Morris Hall… so I’ve got that going for me.
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Sacrificing goats, chugging Maker's Mark, and walking underneath The Arch.
I gave Clarence Kay a Ride....
in my 72 Dodge Colt from the Palace Theater downtown to the Football dorm located just next to the tennis complex….BTW he caught a long TD pass the next day versus Auburn.
"Forget about style; worry about results."
Bobby Orr
by Caniac233 on Dec 2, 2011 5:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Terry Fair was my CPR partner in advanced first aid.
But y’all are all too young for a basketball reference from the Dominique days.
I did see Herschel regularly in the library (with a posse of beautiful girls) and on the bus occasionally. Rode the bus with him the day the Sport’s Illustrated with his cover came out. Every one was trying to be cool, but eventually someone had to ask for an autograph. When he got off the bus I said something about how fortunate she was to have the magazine with her at that moment. She said it was no luck -- she had been on the bus all day looking for Herschel.
by hbtd on Dec 2, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Really. He was so nice.
And I loved how when we would go through the things they make you say to the CPR dummy before starting, he would say them like it was a real person.
I miss college.
Oops, my mistake
it was another of that team, James Banks, now coaching at Athens Academy. Sorry.
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My sister had class with Will Witherspoon...
and a piss-drunk Daniel Inman once bought me a beer downtown. Does that make me cool?
/notcool.
by TreeDawgNight on Dec 2, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
My college roommate was good friends with one-time Dawg basketball standout Raymond Harrison.
What does that get me?
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Drama majors are cool too, right?
I was in a University production with Robert Singleton, who was the fourth string RB in the early Donnan days. He was the lead, and I (a freshman at the time) played a cop that arrested him. He later went on to play the drug dealer in the movie Blind Side.
I have no idea if this makes me cool…
Did I see that play?
Was that the one where Jayson played the devil, or the one where you played the embodiment of institutionalized racism?
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I played basketball against Matt Harpring
in whatever that old gym is where they hold summer HS camps. Got to play a few games at Stegeman too.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
True story
My college roomie and I went to the globe one night. We couldnt afford it. But it was all the rage. Michael Stype and company were at the table right next too us. We ordered the cheapest beer they had, which was still more than we had. Stype and friends left two full glasses of high dollar wine and about another glass in the bottle when they left.
Yea – we did.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
by tankertoad on Dec 2, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've heard Garrison Hearst having sexual intercourse.
I never had a class with him, though.
Dr. Morpheus, we’re all good.
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Fair enough, . . .
. . . but, since folks were comparing notes on interactions with athletes, I wanted to get proper credit! :)
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I've booty danced with Kara Braxton, but you don't see me bragging about it
well, I guess I just did. But yeah.
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Go Dawgs!
Let’s get back to 10-2 and playing for the SEC Championship. Thanks for a very funny article.
"Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees." Thomas J. Jackson
Thanks.
Just glad my purple drank induced stupor served some alternate purpose.
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by RedCrake on Dec 2, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Poster of Jamarcus... priceless...
speaking of lying on your back looking up at the roof of the Dome.
"Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees." Thomas J. Jackson
by Dr. Morpheus on Dec 2, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
looking from an outsiders perspective
The two best teams UGA played beat UGA. 10 game win streak is great no matter what league. Best win was against 8-3 Gtech (they lost 24-7 to Miami). Then rest of the wins were against mediocre to bad teams. Counter Argument: LSU played the same teams which is true. The difference no matter the opponent the two toughest games LSU played they won.
I understand that the Dawgs are playing 10x better than they were at the beginning of the season. The same can be said for LSU who ( by the way on a 13 game winning streak), finally got their starting QB back. This summer before the bar fight Jefferson was the clear cut starting QB. Is he a Aaron Murray? Not even close but he is a GIANT upgrade over Quick Pick 6. Jefferson inst a bad QB the offense we ran last year no one could be successful in it. Don’t believe me? Look at Maryland, Danny O’Brien was considered to be the best QB in the ACC. This year he has regressed by a large margin. Why? Gary Crowton (LSU former OC) is now the OC at Maryland and he is terrible.
I hope all the players can get through the game safely. Hopefully this will be like 2003 when LSU had a freshman run for 200 yds in the dome. We have another one and he is a GOOD. Good luck to you. Geaux Tigers 28-17
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An outsiders's perspective?
I see how easily you negate the better victory UGA had over Auburn than LSU. I assume when LSU played your team that they were fantastic and it was your defeat of the other Western Tigers that started their plunge into mediocrity? The GaTech team you dismiss with the loss to Miami was the same team that a week following the loss to Miami defeated, at that time, the ACC front-runner a #5 Clemson.
As for Jefferson and his QB abilities, if you scroll up, you will see that I am friends with a “few” LSU fans and if I recall, last year Mr. Jefferson was regarded as the second coming of Perriloux (over hyped and under-performing) as well often referred to as “Mr, Pick Six”. As for Crowton being the reason Jefferson suffered last year, find another argument. Crowton has Maryland performing much better in the passing game than last season (kinda hurts the QB argument you make), slightly less at rushing and on par with last year. O’Brien was a freshman last season, Maryland brought in a new OC and they are on par under his system, I think the Terps will take that and look forward to next year.
The reason for Jefferson’s improvement more lies in the fact that that in his 8 games this season he has faced defenses that are not known for putting pressure in the QB position. The teams he faced averaged 68th in the nation in sacks, 51st in Interceptions, and 51st in Tackles for Loss. UGA is 15th, 6th and 8th in the nation, respectively, in those same categories.
Should LSU be a favorite? Yes. Should the nation be prepared for an upset? Yes. LSU is the better team this year. UGA does have a “puncher’s chance”. In my opinion that chance is closer to when Douglas defeated Tyson more so than the Holmes vs. Ali scenario.
GO DAWGS
And to Hell with gatech
by Dawg2011 on Dec 2, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just can't see it happening, guys.
I don’t hate the Bulldogs. Granted, I don’t like ya’ll or nothing, and I do have a certain fondness of the Ol’ Chief there on LSU, but I just can’t see it happening, not from comparisons on stats alone because — let’s face it — no matter what the numbers say, you put any common opponent on two side-by-side televisions, and LSU looks like the better team against all of ‘em, save ’maybe’ Mississippi State, who Georgia beat by 14 and LSU beat by 13, or Auburn (who both teams really took to the woodshed). Let’s look at two columns of scores and ask me which ones you’d take:
- 27-13, 24-10, 20-12, 24-20, 45-7.
- 52-3, 19-6, 38-7, 41-11, 45-10.
I wouldn’t look too closely at the numbers hoping for a win, is all I’m saying: I’d look towards miracles, as someone else here noted. I just can’t believe, but goodness I know if I was insane enough to wear red and black, I’d want to. ;-)
Good luck, here’s to it at least being a fun game. I’ve got my doubts.
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
And, because I'm SO SMART, I forgot about THEM.
Why would I forget about THEM? No reason, just that THEM don’t need to be THOUGHT of because they SUCK and are total LOSERS and I’m not BITTER at all why would you THINK that I amskakflafglaaarggh.
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
Who left the door unlocked again?
Lots of riff-raff just letting themselves in, making themselves at home (you know the type that waltzes into your house, puts their feet up on the coffee table and drinks all the good beer).
Hey Bobothevol guess what? That dumpster fire of a football program you have up there is DONE. They played their last game on Saturday and lost to UK.
Besides how would you know what good football looks like? Lord knows you haven’t seen any up there in 6 or 7 years.
I don't see any need to bite bobothevol just because he posted a comment saying that Georgia was worse than LSU on paper.
I agree with his conclusion. In fact, most reasonable people would reach that conclusion, I think.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 2, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
I spent longer than I should have trying to twist numbers to show that Georgia was better than LSU on paper, or at least as good. On paper, we just aren’t. To paraphrase tankertoad, though, we play the games for a reason. We definitely have a puncher’s chance.
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Not disagreeing that LSU is probably the better team
but using a lame stat like scores from common opponents to suggest that we have no chance is ridiculous. The circumstances are different for all of those games in regard to personel, location, weather, etc. Common opponents are a good starting point, but to draw definitive conclusions from a bunch of scores is short sighted to say the least.
One or two, I'd agree.
It’s a nice sample size of games though.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
But what you don't see
is what injuries were in play for those games on both teams, where the games were played (I would argue no tougher place to play in the SEC than Death Valley even in the day time), and what the weather was like.
In at least two of those games (Ole Miss/Miss St) we “took our foot off the gas” in the second half. If you want to compare apples to apples then look at the net statistics for those games. Compare rushing yds for vs rushing yds against or passing yds for vs passing yds against. Mark Richt as a general rule doesn’t run the score up on an already beaten team. We could have scored 70 against Auburn if we wanted to but the coaching staff chose to go into clock mode right after half time. I still think it’s an apples to oranges comparison.
Bottom line is we are going to find out at 4pm tomorrow who is the better team (at least who is the better team on Dec 3, 2011). I just am sick of people who keep giving us no chance like we’re Kentucky or Tennessee.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
I just am sick of people who keep giving us no chance like we’re Kentucky or Tennessee.
For this year, LSU is to UGA as UGA is to Kentucky or Tennessee.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
How on earth can you say such a thing? We havent even played each other.
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I’ve maintained all along that UGA is a solid team while LSU is a great team. We’ve talked about scores against common opponents; the fact that LSU gives up fewer points per game and scores more against a superior schedule. I’ve cited this source to illustrate the discrepancy between the two (note the greater difference in F+ between LSU and UGA than between UGA and UT to support my point.) I guess none of that is relevant for discussion about the probable outcome of the game. Also, I dare you to show me where I said UGA is a bad team (as you asserted in your cute little private message to me.) Seems like you have a short fuse there. Hell, you banned one of your own yesterday because you THOUGHT he was making fun of UGA. Sensitive much?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Dude, you need to stop, right there, right now..
I have not sent you any private message. Get your Mods straight. When you get a warning, then call out the staff saying “cute little private message” your reading comprehension isn’t that good, because obviously the warning didnt clue you in.
I rightfully banned someone, IAW dawgsports policy for using specific inflammatory words and language. The staff discussed and corrrected and in fact the person you aluded too was apologetic about the matter. So, you are stiring a pot that doesn’t exist.
You made a sweeping generalization that LSU is to UGA as UGA is to UK. This is absurd. We havent played each other and UGA is a much, much better team than UK or UT and the differences between LSU and UGA are much closer.
I am giving you the rope, please say something inflammatory.
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LOL
Show me an inflammatory statement I’ve made on here. I defy you. As far as the comparison between UGA-LSU and UGA-UK/UT, did you click the link?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Ok, reading comprehension fail yet again.
You made it personal, then didnt admit your mistake. You’re trolling and ruining a good thread, and your past history to quote the movies, “your jacket is two inches thick.”
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If, by that, you mean you are predicting Georgia will lose to LSU . . .
. . . by a 20-12 or 19-10 margin, J Tadpole, I’d say that’s a reasonable prediction.
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Vandy, bobo.
Vandy.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I believe the word you're looking for is "Kentucky," J Tadpole.
If you’re going to troll, troll successfully.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 2, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Ooh, you're right.
It was ‘Tucky, wasn’t it? They managed to beat Vandy.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Ah, for the days of muckbeast, at least he put up some good arguments.
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He's a Bammeroid
Been trying to pick a fight over on The Valley Shook.
Deserves got nothin' to do with it...
Not at all.
Just amused by how much you folks don’t want to play Bama again, that’s all.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Absolutely.
It was fun, too! Can’t wait to do it again.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I don't know about all of this LSU talk, guys.
They’re a bunch of rude, drunk, vulgar, crazy coon-asses. Tiger Stadium is the only place where I somewhat felt somewhat threatened for my life. And the closest I’ve come to getting in a fight in the last ten years was at the Georgia Dome in December of 2003. A crazed, drunk, stupid coon-ass talking sh*t and wanting to start something. I could have decimated him but really wasn’t up for the Atlanta jail experience.
They’re right up there with Florida, UT, and Tech in terms of the lack of class of their fan base as far as I’m concerned. But experiences do vary…
How 'Bout Them Dawgs!
We all have different experiences which influence our perspectives.
Personally, I moved to South Mississippi in March of this year, where LSU fans seem to outnumber Ole Miss and Miss. State fans 2 to 1 (but maybe that’s just because the Ole Miss fans haven’t been as loud this year…) My next-door neighbors are LSU fans, and they are among the most hospitable people I’ve ever met. A co-worker of mine is an LSU grad, and he let me live with him and his wife for three weeks while I waited to close on my house. I watched the LSU – Bama game with a huge gathering of LSU fans, and they were all hospitable and respectful to my wife and I while cheering their hearts out for their team. I showed my gratitude that day by also cheering hard for their team, but there is no doubt as to whom I will cheer for in two days.
Go ’Dawgs! Sic ’em!
by TreeDawgNight on Dec 2, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Different fans' mileage may vary, Marshmanslim.
I’m good with LSU fans, personally, but, then, a lot of folks I know say they get along well with Auburn fans, so different folks have different experiences. You’re certainly entitled to have your opinion, and to express it.
If we could steer clear of the “coon-ass” term, though, I’d appreciate it. I understand it’s particular to a specific geographic region, but it creeps up to the edge of racially inflammatory language, even though I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way. Thanks for your understanding.
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Definitely not racial in any way...
I’ve known that term for years as a non-racial description of Cajuns but I do understand where you’re coming from. It’s your blog anyway—I won’t use it again.
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Thanks, Marshmanslim.
Yeah, I know it wasn’t meant that way, but, as when Nick Saban used the term offhandedly, it can be misread that way, and, while I’m not exactly politically correct, I think it’s worth a modicum of effort to avoid offending people, even inadvertently. Your understanding is appreciated.
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I enjoy the image of LSU you get on TV...
but in person, the only hardcore LSU fan I have ever met was the scum of the earth. A waste of oxygen. A superfluous gob of goateed protoplasm. He didn’t smell like corndogs, he smelled like sh*tty cologne and used cars. I’m afraid the association is permanent, and I also can’t forget the screwjob in Athens, 2009. Hopefully our boys are just as geeked up about that as they were about the Auburn game where Fairley tried to cripple Murray, and they bring their A game – because one of my happiest memories in Athens is sitting in Walkers watching our defense break LSU’s QB in the 2005 SECCG, and I would love to have that back again. Go ’Dawgs.
Toast When We Coast & Drank When We Stank
Just for the record, while no one should really be grippin’ and sippin’ anyway, if you do, please don’t use the 50/50 recipe in the linked image. You will die.
While I’m here, I’ll second/third/threve LSU fans being among the best in the SEC. When I was in Red Stick earlier this fall for LSU/Fla, I saw, among other things: an actual barbecued gator; an LSU fan stick up for a Florida fan who was being hassled by a cop; and a petite, 5’ brunette run up to my 6’3", jort wearin’ buddy, scream “TIGER BAIT!!!!” at the top of her lungs, and then immediately drain a tall boy of Miller Lite. (I’m still kicking myself for not proposing to that chick on the spot.) Put “tailgate in Baton Rouge” on your bucket list if you haven’t already been.
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by Spears on Dec 2, 2011 9:59 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Charles Darwin might suggest
That if you are dumb enough to drink 50% codeine syrup, perhaps you should not survive to pass on your genetic material.
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Sacrificing goats, chugging Maker's Mark, and walking underneath The Arch.
by RedCrake on Dec 2, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thinning the herd, are we, there, RedCrake?
Carry on, my friend. I’m just looking the other way. . . .
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huh?
How does one pass on the preeminent thinker on biology since Linnaeus?
Uga is the best mascot of all time!
Ain't nothing finer in the land than the Georgia Redcoat Marching Band!
Well....
Isnt there something ironic about a school founded by William Sherman coming to atlanta to play a team from georgia?
(sarcasm) (lack of creative content)
Burning through Georgia just like General Sherman... it's the LSU Fightin' Tigers!
/self-troll
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 2, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Saying you like sherman wont score style points on a UGA blog.
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I think Sherman left Athens alone
He knew better.
Uga is the best mascot of all time!
Ain't nothing finer in the land than the Georgia Redcoat Marching Band!
by BlueDawg77 on Dec 2, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The North did take over our campus and put livestock in north campus buildings.
I guess even they thought Athens and UGA was just too nice to burn down.
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by tankertoad on Dec 2, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That would explain why
the older buildings are still here, which is what I was basing my assumption on. Thanks for the info!
Uga is the best mascot of all time!
Ain't nothing finer in the land than the Georgia Redcoat Marching Band!
Good article.
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Les is going to show you how he has Moves Like Jagger" -Tiger on the Mountain, Track'em Tigers
"Les has charm. Petrino has none." -Pat Forde, Yahoo Sports
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky, Track'em Tigers
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples, SI
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton, Dr. Saturday
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
by LSU Jonno on Dec 2, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Booos 2007
Regarding that chorus of “Booos” for the Mayor of New Orleans, that extra volume came from the Hawaii fans’ participation. Incredibly happy to be in NOLA (and boy, they spent the money in the restaurants to prove it), the Hawaii fans happily cheered the introductions of their dignitaries. I even think the University of Hawaii President was wearing face paint. They loved it.
When Adams was introduced, the Hawaii fans nearby began applauding politely, and got this incredibly stunned look on their faces when UGA fans booed him loudly. That got a chuckle, and kind of broke the ice in the section where I was sitting.
With C Ray introduced, and the Hawaii fans properly instructed on Sugar Bowl etiquette, the chorus was quite unified in voicing their opinions. I can’t remember if he skipped the National Championship intro a week later – if Georgia and Hawaii fans booed him, I can’t imagine what the Dome would sound like populated with the Tiger faithful.
by Cousin Pat from Georgia on Dec 2, 2011 1:02 PM EST reply actions
great read
nicely done. looking forward to a fun game tomorrow.
Dawgsports readers and dawgnation, I want to clarify a few things.
1) Dr Morpheus kinda came out of no where, using inflammatory language, and his satire didnt come across well. I apologize for my language, but not for my initial ban, which the staff here discussed and corrected.
2) J Tadpole was privately warned by another mod, actually unknown to me until he mentioned a “cute little private message”. He is banned for continually thread jacking and due to a massive past history of trolling, and by not “getting it” he needed to chill. FWIW – anyone can create a fanpost of their own and talk all they want about Alabama. Continually attacking comment after comment, with no continuity to the OP, is eventually going to cause problems. RedCrake made no mention of Bama in his OP at all.
3) Please watch your language (that goes for me, most certainly). I apologize for mine.
4) RedCrake wrote a great humorous post. I hope y’all can continue to enjoy it and talk about it.
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by tankertoad on Dec 2, 2011 3:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I am honestly surprised
that you allowed J Tapdpole to hang around as long as he did. From my view point, as an avid reader and frequent commentator, I enjoy the polite restrain, keeping to topic, non-feeding of trolls, and general conversation that happens here. The last thing I want to see is to this become something similar to an AJC, ESPN or CBSSports Blog. I want to thank the staff of DawgSports for allowing me a place to enjoy discussing on of my more passionate hobbies and keeping the riff-raff to a minimum.
And to Hell with gatech
second
Hi there. Long time, first time. I really enjoy this blog. I consider it a respite from all the other cripe I read at other boards about the hubris of UGA even being in SECCG. You guys do a stand up job, and I am glad you are actively ensuring this place has a relatively civil discourse. Thanks! And Sic ‘em!! Ain’t Nothing Finer in the Land!
BlueDawg77, glad to have you here.
Sorry for the circumstances that brought you out.
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Thanks, Tanker.
My football knowledge has been greatly enhanced because of y’all. I focused my collegiate studies less on the nuances of football and more what would get me into grad school. What a waste that was.
Uga is the best mascot of all time!
Ain't nothing finer in the land than the Georgia Redcoat Marching Band!
T Kyle has a long standing record of "not banning" as long as the person isn't personal or inflammatory.
We want to support differing views. The issue, with virtually every ban, is someone is warned, and doesn’t even count to ten before coming right back at it. I have seen it happen many times, from both sides of the house (fan vs staff). Kyle has even lifted bans by the way.
To repeat, however, about differing views: Create a fanpost and go to town. If it’s well done, it will likely be promoted. Few sites do that.
Dawgsports will never be a message board, I assure you.
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by tankertoad on Dec 2, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I am going to make a motion
I motion that Tankertoad’s Title be changed from “Editor” to “Editor, Sargent at Arms and Bombardier”
I HATE ORANGE, and DGNBs
I support the motion, . . .
. . . but that’s going to take up a lot of room on the masthead, along with “senior class bigshot” and “chief vigilante.”
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We try, but it is a fine line
we like big numbers, and that comes from new people finding the site and joining the discussion. And some of these new posters take time before they learn the community and how to best interact with it. Plus, this is America, and inhibiting speech and free thought is somewhat frowned upon.
So it’s kind of hard, you want to let people talk, and have as many view points, especially well thought out views, as possible. But you don’t want trolls bringing things down to a bad level and putting some of the good posters off so they no longer get the enjoyment of the community that Kyle and Macon and others have taken a long time to build up.
It’s a fine line to walk between being too lenient and letting the AJCishness take over, and for being too harsh and restricting discussion that helps enhance the site.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 2, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks, Dawg2011 and BlueDawg77.
To the extent that we can be self-policing by enforcing established mores and folkways informally, with a helpful suggestion to a new commenter or a well-placed “dude,” we appreciate the assistance of the community in that respect. Banning is an extreme step (though sometimes warranted), and even warnings are a tad formal. Everyone’s help in nudging novices in the right direction through polite reminders of the guidelines can help us educate new users in the standards to which we try to adhere, in order to avoid misunderstandings before they get out of control, as well as to identify the recalcitrant early, and deal with them accordingly. Your assistance and patience are very much appreciated.
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You and NCT need a break from talking with each other:
established mores and folkways informally
I dont even know what that means.
That being said, I figured you would come through and wrap things up, I appreciate it.
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I think a simpler way of saying it would be:
“People act better when they act like they’re worried about what their parents are going to think than they do when they act like they’re worried about what the police are going to think.”
But thanks! :)
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