Truths, Whole Truths, and Advanced College Football Statistics: Bill Connelly Answers Questions About the Georgia Bulldogs
Bill Connelly writes for Football Outsiders, Rock M Nation, Football Study Hall, and SB Nation, and he and I have a lot in common. In addition to our shared association with the finest sports blogging network of them all, Bill and I both root for SEC teams that recently have dealt with embarrassing arrests of high-ranking athletic department employees, though it could be worse.
Now that Dawg Sports has become a bit more statistically sophisticated, I thought it was time to call in the big guns and let Bill bring us up to speed on the numbers. ("I was told there would be no math" comment from vineyarddawg in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .) I caught up with Bill earlier this week, and here is our exchange:
T. Kyle King: You’re an advocate of what I suppose might be called "safermetrics," since it adapts sabermetric principles from baseball to football. Bearing in mind that we went to the liberal arts institution in the Classic City instead of the trade school on North Avenue, give us the short course on how your approach to college football statistics works.
Bill Connelly: Everything is based on one simple principle: your output versus your expected output. Regular college football stats are filled with so much "who did you play?" context that simply seeing that a team is averaging __ points per game or __ yards per game tells you almost nothing. Both Brian Fremeau (my Outsiders counterpart) and I take divergent routes, but the idea behind our methods is the same. He looks at per-drive metrics, and I look at per-play metrics.
Kyle: We have a regular contributor, oneloyaldawg, who examines ten statistical measures each week to gauge how the ‘Dawgs are doing. As a general proposition, which metrics matter most? If I could only look at one stat, which stat should it be?
Bill: Honestly, the single best piece of data in your typical box score (besides "points scored and allowed," of course) is yards per play. In a given game, teams will typically run anywhere between 60 and 100 plays, so think about that for a moment: if you average a modest 5.0 yards per play, that's the difference between 300 and 500 yards. Last week alone, Kansas gained an "impressive" 401 yards against Baylor, while Florida State gained "just" 259 yards versus Miami. But Kansas also ran 91 plays; Florida State: 52. That doesn't mean KU's performance was terrible and FSU's was fantastic, but seeing that FSU averaged 5.0 yards per play and KU averaged 4.4 tells you a lot more than the raw totals.
Kyle: Just looking at standard box scores, I’ve concluded that Georgia was as dominant on the field over Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Tennessee, and Florida as the Bulldogs were over Auburn, with the only difference being that Georgia’s dominance between the white lines finally showed up on the scoreboard in the Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry. Am I right? Why or why not?
Bill: Georgia's per-play numbers have been rock solid all year. One thing I noticed with their performances this season has been the tendency to play it very conservative once the game is in hand. They gained 282 yards in the first half against Ole Miss, 186 in the second. 218 in the first half versus MSU, 83 in the second. They gained 33 yards in 18 plays their last three possessions versus Tennessee once the game was in hand. You can get away with this if you have a good defense and a good running game. Georgia is getting there in both cases. And since we throw away garbage-time results with our metrics, UGa doesn't really get punished for packing it in early. Still, remaining conservative and letting teams get a little closer than it feels they should be is a sure way to give the fanbase a bit of anxiety, especially when a lead disappears like it did for Georgia against Vandy.
Kyle: Bearing in mind your answer to the previous question, just how good is this Georgia team right now? What’s the difference between the Bulldogs today and the Bulldogs who lost badly to Boise State?
Bill: This is a very good team. Not Top Five good by any means, but quite possibly Top 15 good. I said it after the South Carolina game, too. They lost to two very good teams -- both Boise State and South Carolina were elite in September before injuries/dismissals took their toll -- and it wasn't that difficult to see them going on quite a run as long as they rebounded. They've pretty clearly rebounded.
Kyle: Let’s assume for the sake of argument that Georgia and LSU will meet in the SEC Championship Game for the third time in a nine-year span. Can the Bulldogs beat the Tigers, and, if so, what must they do to claim Mark Richt’s third SEC championship?
Bill: UGa absolutely can beat LSU, there's no question about that. You won't see me predict it, but it could happen. Georgia's defense is nicely balanced -- Top 20 both against the run and pass -- and they are deep enough offensively to figure out a weakness to exploit (at least once) on LSU's defense. The problem, of course, is that you have to make your field goals to beat LSU. Can Blair Walsh do that?
My thanks go out to Bill Connelly for taking the time to speak with us, even if he does think the Bulldogs are only going to beat Kentucky by a measly 25.7 points!
Go ‘Dawgs!
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I just want to say this is what I been saying!
" their performances this season has been the tendency to play it very conservative once the game is in hand." And it’s the very in 2 score games that has worried me.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
We've survived this flawed offensive philosophy...thus far.
The defense seems to be improving exponentially and the offense is producing when we need to produce, especially of late. We could’ve tacked on a last minute TD against Florida to inflate the final score. We absolutely could’ve hung 60 on Auburn if we wanted, but the clock-eating ball control in the 4th quarter was a beautiful thing to see, especially in person.
Yep…there’s been a lot of offensive angst at times around here, much of it deserved. But if we get a lead on anyone, you’ve got to feel pretty good about the defense shutting the door behind what the offense has opened.
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As long as we move the chains, I am ok with it. When we go "very" conservative for three and outs, I have a problem.
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by tankertoad on Nov 17, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've been wondering about the reason for that
Though the template has been relatively the same for many of CMR’s successful years (points early, conservative late, lean on defense), I wonder if the whole “taking the foot off the gas” early – so early in some cases – thing is being employed as a means to protect a thin offensive line, and mitigate the risk that comes with a lack of depth. With Georgia’s O-line concerns existing as an almost annual problem, would such a strategy make sense?
by Cousin Pat from Georgia on Nov 18, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Well, Xon and I debated back and forth on this tremendously -
but there is conservative, protect a lead play calling, and then there was the mindless hurling of a running back up the middle for 3 and outs and then every so often throw a bomb. I don’t believe you can go completely predictable and uncreative to be “conservative.” I think you still need to mix it up and be creative, but perhaps in a safer direction. And if the opponent just needs one big play and a FG to tie or go ahead, you are still in a close game and not moving chains or scoring is not, in my opinion, smart.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
I agree.
I’m perfectly fine with true conservative play-calling when we have a big enough lead, but by conservative play-calling, I don’t mean “no longer playing football.” I mean soul-crushingly long drives where each play is 3-4 yards and a cloud of dust—and, of course, the ever-ticking clock. I don’t care so much if the play-calling is creative, but it does bother me when we stop doing what works just for the sake of balance. If there’s something our offense can do that their defense can’t stop, then don’t stop doing it.
by Cherokee's Grip on Nov 18, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously, Cherokee's Grip, you and I were typing at the same time, . . .
. . . but I believe we are in complete agreement. Well said.
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by T Kyle King on Nov 18, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely, if it works, I am for it. And to me, the definition of works is 1st downs in this case.
Even if predictable. But if you are unable to achieve first downs, then you need to do something different. I wouldnt be nearly as bitchy about the old miss game if we just got 2 first downs, rather than use an injured IC on predictable, unworking plays. I am not saying that was a time to call a bubble screen mind you, but hurling him up the middle (although Xon believes it was a jet sweep to the outside, it failed so badly I am not sure still what it was), ineffective and left just enough room with a punt return or one big play to get back into it.
And everyone knows how much I love CTG, he was the exact hire I was looking for. But I still don’t like the “well, screw it, will depend on the D approach” If the O has the ball, they need to still produce yards per play. It’s their job both with play calling and execution.
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by tankertoad on Nov 18, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
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by T Kyle King on Nov 18, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
The problem is that
it’s a fine line sometimes between successfully executing the soul-crushing cloud of dust drive (as we have done against Florida and, with special excellence, Auburn) and failing to execute it (which is what characterized our second halves against Ole Miss, Miss St, and Tennessee).
I seriously doubt that Bobo ever goes out and tries to have 3 and outs. What happens is he’s trying to put together a long, steady drive of mostly running plays, but the o-line doesn’t block well enough to make it happen.
I don’t think there is anything significantly different between the drive we executed against Auburn in the 4th quarter on Saturday and the drives we were intending to execute against Ole Miss or Miss St in the second halves of those games. The only difference was, well, that we were successful one time and not so much the other time.
Bobo is not “mindlessly hurling a running back up the middle for 3 and outs and then every so often throw(ing) a bomb”. I just don’t believe that that is ever what is taking place. When he says he went conservative, he means that he was trying to put together a grinding steady drive to eat clock. When that fails, then we get frustrated. But every nice plan fails sometimes.
We rarely know as much as we need to know to make a lot of these evaluations. That’s the real problem here if you ask me.
The UF/Aubie games were the same type of play calling as the Ole Miss/etc ones
And, like you said, the results were different. I think what was partially frustrating to tankertoad, and many of us, was the fact that when the plays weren’t working against the Rebels, et al, we didn’t tweak the playcalling to fix it. It was WONDERFUL watching us run down the Gators’ and Chimaeras’ throats. However, when those same types of plays weren’t working against the others to grind out the clock, we should have mixed it up slightly. We could’ve, and maybe should’ve, still stayed conservative, but we could have done it without running up the gut for 3 and outs. If our line wasn’t blocking well enough to execute, we should have adapted some and gone with other safe plays that kill clock but sustain the drive.
tl;dr: There are ways to run the clock other than just running down throats. When the running it down their throats strategy didn’t work, we should’ve adapted and added a few other plays, probably short, safe passes, into the mix.
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You forgot the part about intentionally being conservative
and then using an injured IC to run the same play 3 times. That is mindless. If you want to blame the blocking, then why were we able to score in the first place? Again, we go through this, if everyone does exactly what I say, I can be an OC. It’s winning the chess match, making adjustments, finding things that works, getting miss matches, noticing small details that you get paid for. If everyone blocks perfectly, then we can hire a 16 year old at minimum watch to call 3 jet sweeps. And yes, there were a few bombs in there. A pass in the flat to the FB or TE is an effective and safe play for us. We didnt try it at all in the second half.
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"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
To me, it all comes down to whether a particular sequence of play calls makes situational sense.
Up on Auburn early by a little in Jordan-Hare Stadium against a good team with an explosive offense and a penchant for second-half comebacks, it made absolutely no sense to ease up on the offensive aggressiveness.
Up on Auburn late by a lot in Sanford Stadium against a mediocre team that hadn’t scored since the opening drive of the first quarter, it made tremendously good sense to take the play clock to one second, use safe running plays that steadily gained positive yardage, and keep the ball and the clock moving in order to take seven minutes off the game clock and put seven points on the scoreboard. In that situation, the best defense is a good offense.
Some play calls are just bad, period. Most, though, are good or bad depending upon the circumstances. I have no problem with being conservative when you are in a position to win merely by conserving; I have a big problem with it when you know you need to keep scoring in order to win.
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by T Kyle King on Nov 18, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I heard Coach Franklin being interviewed on Sirius/XM this morning.
He said Vandy ranked #1 in the conference for most plays 40yds and over and #2 behind Ark. for most plays over 30yds. You don’t take your foot off the gas agains a team like that either.
(Just an observation: Franklin is not very humble.)
Good point.
I hope the coaches remember that against Vanderbilt next year.
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I liked the argument "if your starters are in, you dont take your foot off the gas".
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by tankertoad on Nov 18, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
For effective conservative, protect a lead play calling
Look to Clemson’s last drive against Auburn this year. Lots of high percentage passes mixed in with running plays that took up the final 10 minutes of the game. play by play here.
by UGAVike on Nov 18, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I was told... that there would be no maths...

… because the maths had been done by the two squirrels, and they were married…
(mumbles incoherently)…
… I’ll set… the stadium on fire…
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Can I make a suggestion?

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by tankertoad on Nov 17, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Why is there a hospital
attached to their stadium?
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by animalcracker on Nov 18, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
have i mentioned recently how i feel about this lovely place?
what other sports blog could you have multiple stat articles a week with people who read and interact with it? it makes the numbers dork in me very happy
and i agree that averages per play are a better overall metric. i plan on doing a huge analysis at the end of the year with a ton of average stats like that. just dont have time every week for that kind of super in depth analysis, unless yall want to start managing my 4 fantasy football teams :)
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by oneloyaldawg on Nov 17, 2011 10:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This rocks. Thank you.
And…
Truths, Whole Truths, and Advanced College Football Statistics
I see what you did there. Well played.
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