Kwame Geathers, Shawn Williams Suspended: Five Reasons This Does Not Doom the 'Dawgs
As you know, I have been sick this week. Had I not had appointments every day this week, I wouldn’t have gone into the office most days, and, when I’ve been home, I’ve been taking over-the-counter cold medications that come with warnings not to operate heavy machinery, and that should come with warnings not to appear on podcasts. Basically, all I want to do right now is sleep while this plays in my fevered dreams.
However, Mike Slive is determined to ruin my rest and recovery, because he has suspended Kwame Geathers and Shawn Williams for the first half of the Georgia Bulldogs’ upcoming game against the Florida Gators, which is kind of a big deal, and which necessitates comment in this space.
At the end of the day, Year2 is right: Geathers and Williams swung on guys, and, while the punches they threw were hardly thrown without provocation, the fact is that socking a guy on a football field is a no-no, and it isn’t a legally adequate excuse to say he had it coming, even if there’s a pretty good case to be made for the proposition that he had it coming. They made their choices, and they were bad ones, and now they, and their team, will have to pay the price. I come neither to praise nor to bury Geathers and Williams; the situation is what the situation is. The question now becomes, "How pessimistic should this make us?" Here are five reasons why the answer to that question is, "Not very":
- We found out about it before the bye week. The main reason A.J. Green’s suspension wreaked such havoc on the early part of the Bulldogs’ 2010 season was the uncertainty surrounding it; Georgia spent all or part of the preparation time for the first two games of last season not knowing whether Green would play, so the coaches and players had to get ready for either eventuality. The ‘Dawgs will head into the open date knowing Geathers and Williams will be unavailable for a half, and they will be able to game-plan accordingly.
- Geathers and Williams will be well-rested for the second half. Remember last year’s Iron Bowl? The Auburn Tigers had players suspended for the first half against the Alabama Crimson Tide following the Plainsmen’s 2010 fracas with the Red and Black, but getting them back made the Yellowhammer State showdown a tale of two halves. Given the way Georgia came back against Florida after a sluggish start in Jacksonville a year ago, all the ‘Dawgs really have to do is keep it competitive for 30 minutes, and they’ll be at their best after the break.
- Mad ‘Dawgs are mean ‘Dawgs. There may be no better motivational ploy in all of sports than the classic "us against the world" theme. Overconfidence has seldom served Georgia well in the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, at least not during the lifetimes of any current Bulldogs, so using the "everyone’s out to get you" and "everyone wants to see you fail" tactics could help promote an irate underdog mentality, which is what we need. Yeah, it’s a lie, but, if the players buy into it and win as a result, who really cares?
- We won’t be able to build up a lead in the first half, so Mike Bobo won’t be able to call plays with a lead in the second half. You want Mike Bobo to keep his foot on the gas? Then don’t let him coast. A depleted first-half defense leads to an aggressive second-half offense.
- It’s the Florida game. This is the one in which our all-time leading receiver drops a critical third-down pass and our quarterback is injured for one dadgum game in an SEC championship season. If it weren’t for bad luck, we’d have no luck at all. If it hadn’t been this disaster, it would’ve just been some other disaster. The other shoe has fallen, so now we can relax.
That’s the best I can do. What do you think?
Go ‘Dawgs!
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I thinks its time
For Georgia to the realization that we’re just screwed no matter what we do. We’ve got suspended players, we’re gonna get Penn Wagers, and we’re gonna see PWG penalties all night long.
I propose we let Grantham loose… let him rip off both of Coach Larry’s arms, beat him to death with them, then dance on the corpse after our first score. Take the celebration penalty, then beat some jort ass anyway.
Sacrificing goats, chugging Maker's Mark, and walking underneath The Arch.
by RedCrake on Oct 19, 2011 6:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Imma put this in every thread:
I want a commercial on ESPN, like the “roll tide” one, where they say PWG 40 times.
I have more anger than I can figure out what to do with. And what’s scary is I know how do things if I wanted too.
The SEC fans are going to tell me I have to like the SEC? What the hell ever. 4 game for AJ over a jersey. SEC apologizes (but changes nothing) over AJ’s celebration. Fairely, over and over and over tries to hurt someone (particularly Aaron Murray) – nothing. Shawn WIlliams suspended, but only after a Vandy player slapped him and a team mate half a dozen times. Ohm and Williams was penalized. So this crap is severe double jeopardy.
Kit – I am ready bro. I got one hour on this.
"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker
My guess is Williams is suspended for the hit on the receiver after the incomplete pass
But I feel ya still.
The 984 Has Spoken!
meh
"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker
by tankertoad on Oct 19, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this one I like
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the Dawgs of war; - Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1
Serious comment is serious.
I personally don’t view this as a huge deal IF, Big Bad John can hold his own for the defense’s share of the first 30 minutes. He has now beaten out Geathers as the starter, and while it’s nice to have a rotation for the depth/fresh bodies, we can mitigate that some by controlling the ball, running Crowell, etc. For that reason, a healthy balance on offense, but with a heavy does of IC, can really help us in the first half (and of course all game along. Second, as for Williams, it does hurt the continuity back there, but our DBs have been playing great, UF hasn’t shown much of a passing game (not sure this will change just because Brantley will be back), AND I wonder if there is role for Ogletree to play in replacement of Williams for a while. I don’t know what others think about this option, but inserting ‘Tree back into the LB rotation threatens to upset some chemistry that has been working well with Gilliard et al, whereas we’re already looking at disruption in the defensive backfield, and ’Tree was naturally a hard-hitting safety in the first place. Any chance we see him playing that position for this week?
OPPORTUNITY IS NOWHERE
A thought...
do we run some 4-3, with Jenkins and Tyson inside, Washington/Drew and Jones on the ends? Or if we win the toss, do we elect to receive (“WE WANT THE FOOTBALL!”) in order to lessen the time of possession on the D in the first half when they’d be shorthanded?
I think a combination of both of those being answered in the affirmative could make this a benefit and not a detriment. Our D will be ready to rumble and rested in the second half, and in the first, Weiss has to deal with sets he hasn’t really seen us use much this year.
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Good point. Not sure about the scheme, but I had forgotten we get back Washington for this game
until my 7 year old son reminded me. (Made me proud!) That nearly offsets the loss of Geathers, particularly with the emergence of Jenkins, and the return of Robinson and Ogletree. Honestly, I have no idea if the 3-4 or 4-3 is better for us — though I do worry a bit about going away from the scheme that seems to be paying off this year, i.e., the former — but we have a lot of talented players that we can get on the field in various positions, which is really a bit of an embarassment of riches at this point.
OPPORTUNITY IS NOWHERE
Good point about the first-half benefits of electing to receive.
The flipside of that is that, since we tend to make better defensive halftime adjustments than offensive halftime adjustments, taking the football first would allow us to put Geathers and Williams out on the field immediately after intermission, to pair fresh bodies with a tweaked scheme. Electing to receive to open the first half could pay dividends in both halves.
Go 'Dawgs!
Don't Mean to be Pessimistic
Well yeah I do, I mean how can you not be after the way Slive is ensuring his conference is going to the MNCG. In response to your well written article above I give you 5 reasons we will not win Oct 29th in Jacksonville.
1. Mike Slive. He is making it perfectly clear that if you are not LSU, Alabama, Florida and sometimes Auburn, you are playing for 3rd place. His action (or non-action) over the past few years can only support my claim above.
2. Penn Wagers. I don’t know if the SEC has selected the crews yet, but we all know that Wagers will be in Jacksonville.
3. Mad Dawgs are Mean Dawgs. And you can bet the Penn and his crew will flag us for body slams.
4. Mike Bobo. As I stated in another post his name is an anagram for Boob…’nuff said.
5. It is the Florida Game. We find ways to shoot ourselves in the foot everytime.
And jsut think I was once chided for being overly optimistic
I HATE ORANGE and GREEN notebooks
I think #5 is sufficient reason to be pessimistic all by itself.
This whole suspension thing pisses me off more because of the principal of the matter than because I think it’s going to affect our chances of victory one way or another.
by Cherokee's Grip on Oct 19, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
And thats why I can't do the SEC! SEC! SEC!
Rah rah stuff. Until I see Georgia get into a MNC over a Big 12/Big Televen/Etc. school, Bama, UF, or Auburn winning one does jack for me. I don’t like them, I don’t want them to win, and I don’t concede the point that them doing so is somehow good for Georgia when the one time that the rep of the conference and the difficulty of the schedule could have potentially helped us, we ended up playing the Rainbow Warriors.
But then again, I hate every team and want them to be as miserable as I am… so my attitude is really just par for the course.
Sacrificing goats, chugging Maker's Mark, and walking underneath The Arch.
by RedCrake on Oct 19, 2011 9:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
here's why
because in some future year, UGA might finish undefeated (or with 1 loss) during the regular season and the record of all those other teams will ensure that the Dawgs will be playing for the national title that year instead of playing in the Sugar Bowl and watching some Big 10 school play Oklahoma for the national title instead, knowing that you could have beaten either of them! That is one of the reasons I always pull for SEC teams.
The other is because to be the best, you need to beat the best, and if your best win is over a 7-5 Arkansas team, nobody is going ot take you seriously.
But see the SEC seems to be doing just fine without me pulling for the other teams
So I see no reason not to continue to hope that they lose. They generally don’t and I get to continuing hating everyone. Win – win!
Sacrificing goats, chugging Maker's Mark, and walking underneath The Arch.
I think otherwise...
we often recruit against each other, and selfishly, it’s easier to recruit against teams without crystal balls in their recent past. So I fail to see the benefit to my school by rooting for our competitors.
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Not a huge deal...
with the depth coming back at linebacker for the Florida game. Kwame’s big body can be rested for the second half. It does show a startling nearsightedness on the part of the SEC. Consider the consequences of a cheap clip on a 350 pound man; the punishments should be viewed differently. At any rate, this is my non-pessimism.
by CommDawg on Oct 19, 2011 8:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just Beat Florida...Do It...Go Get It Done ...No Excuses.....End of Story
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the Dawgs of war; - Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1
It almost feels like now or never for the Dawgs .
Even with the suspensions we should be favorites in this game. Tree is healthy and ready to reck havoc in Jax. He’s good for +1 in the turn over margin alone. Washington being back is huge. If he gets a good rush on one of those young Qb’s might as well make that a margin of +2. I expect the defense to be more creative in its blitzing sceme with these two on the field.
Mike Slive's recent decisions
The decisions that Slive and his crew has made over the past couple of years has been frustrating. Slive needs to get back his realization that he represents the entire SEC and not just Bama or UF. He has done a lot of great things for the SEC in the past but I would question many of his recent administrative and strategic decisions.
I know I'm a little late to the party on this thread
Just wanted to toss my two cents in.
I’m ok with Geathers beins suspended. He threw a punch, and the rules are what they are. In fact, if he hadn’t been suspended, I was going to write a fanpost about how Richt should take it upon himself to hold Geathers out from some playing time, even if the SEC/NCAA hadn’t.
As for Williams, I think his suspension is excessive, seeing as his personal fouls were called on the field, and I think that should have been the end of it.
And, like everyone else here, I think the SEC higher-ups are a bunch of hypocritical fools, but we already knew that from previous experience.
My biggest fear
is that missing 2 important defenders for the first half means we decide we need to “control the ball and run out the clock in the first half.” And that’s in quotes because what I really mean is “run it up the gut out of the shotgun for a bunch of 3 and outs because we’re not actually being aggressive and trying to score.”
I’m worried that part of the game plan will be a focus on burning the clock instead of on scoring. The defense will be ok. We have depth and it’s only one half. Really nervous that we’ll change our offensive approach in an attempt to protect the defense in the first half. We’ve all seen what happens when we switch to “ball control offense.” Against Vandy and Tennessee, we stopped being able to produce offense when we did that. So, I’m concerned.
Is it ok if I put my faith in John Jenkins?
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
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Dawg Sports -Georgia Bulldogs. When life gives you Gators, make Gatorade.
Why not, he is a pretty good outside shooter.

Or did you mean Jon Jenkins?
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