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Georgia Bulldogs 33, Vanderbilt Commodores 28: I Ain't Afraid of No Goat

Here are a few questions and observations concerning the Georgia Bulldogs’ 33-28 victory over the Vanderbilt Commodores and last night’s Second Annual Dawg Sports Sacrificial Goat Roast:

  • Aaron Murray completed 22 of 38 passes for a career-best 326 yards and a trio of touchdowns, so why does it feel like he had another pedestrian outing and the latest in a series of "off" nights? (We developed a theory last evening that Murray and Blair Walsh learned during fall camp that they were dating the same girl, and that this threw them both into a funk, but, really, we have absolutely nothing with which which to back up that hypothesis.)
  • I don’t mean to be an energy vampire, but Bulldog Nation’s collective overconfidence about this game nearly came back to bite us. We as a fan base simply have to exhibit more negativity. It’s time for Depressive Doug to sock Manic Doug right in the nose. Our tradition is defined by such hall-of-fame poor-mouthers as Wally Butts, Vince Dooley, and Larry Munson. Let’s honor that heritage by being the most underconfident fan base in the conference. With the Florida Gators next up on the schedule, that shouldn’t be too difficult. Yes, I know the Sunshine State Saurians are on a losing streak; that was true last year, too, and look at how that worked out for us.
  • With five carries for 18 yards, Carlton Thomas was underutilized. Who thought that sentence would ever be typed?
  • Expressions of hubris concerning the kicking game are henceforth banned from the Goat Roast. Last year, I mocked the idea that Walsh might not make a field goal, right before he missed the field goal that cost us a two-point game. Last night, a loyal commenter who shall remain nameless haughtily remarked, in the face of my nervous pacing, that I should calm down, because a Drew Butler punt could never be blocked. You just can’t tempt fate that way, folks.
  • Marlon Brown picked a good night to have a breakout game, hauling in four catches for 121 yards and two touchdowns, including the 75-yarder that looked at first like it had put the game away . . . and that’s with a drop of what would have been a pretty big completion.
  • Is it just me, or was that the longest fourth quarter in the history of football? It seemed like we were slogging through the final 15 minutes forever.
  • Our special teams have gone from being the most reliable weapon in the Bulldogs’ arsenal to being the team’s Achilles’s heel. Last night’s breakdowns in the kicking game reached almost comically disastrous proportions. The tale of the tape (for those who can stomach it) included two missed field goal attempts, a 96-yard kickoff return for a touchdown, a fake punt that set up the Commodores’ first score, and a blocked punt to give Vandy the chance to win the game in the closing seconds. Yeah, I know the defense gave up 200 rushing yards, but, if you want to know why the ‘Dawgs had to win a nailbiter over the ‘Dores in a game in which the Red and Black held a 4-1 lead in turnovers, special teams failures account for why this was a 33-28 squeaker instead of a 39-14 laugher exactly like the one we all foresaw.
  • What surprised me about the postgame encounter between Todd Grantham and James Franklin wasn’t the fact that it occurred, it’s been the negative reaction to it, one of which included the inscrutable and downright bizarre observation that "Georgia might have given up an intangibles edge against South Carolina in the race for the SEC East." Though details are scarce, Jarvis Jones didn’t mind saying what others have observed: Vanderbilt was cut-blocking all night, and the Georgia players understandably got tired of it, and the game got a little chippy. At one point during the game, Coach Franklin came onto the field, yelling, and, after the contest was concluded, Coach Franklin again came onto the field, pointing at Shawn Williams, who incurred two of the Bulldogs’ three personal foul penalties. At the same time, at least one Red and Black defender was lying on the ground, presumably for reasons other than the fact that it was late and he thought the field would be a good place to take a nap.

    So . . . Coach Franklin’s players were cut-blocking, not Coach Grantham’s; Coach Franklin was going onto the field during the game and yelling, not Coach Grantham; Coach Franklin was pointing at (and, evidently, speaking to) opposing players after the game, not Coach Grantham; . . . and, somehow, the presumption is that Coach Grantham is the bad guy here? I’m sorry, I’m just not following that.

    Last year, when Coach Grantham made an inappropriate gesture and inappropriate remarks toward an opposing player, I criticized him for it. This year, Coach Franklin is the one who made an inappropriate gesture and, apparently, inappropriate remarks toward an opposing player, and Coach Grantham is the one who rose to the defense of his players (including, it should not be forgotten, one who was at that very moment on the ground), and he directed his justified indignation not at a college student, but at a Southeastern Conference head football coach. Based on what we now know, Coach Grantham’s reaction was proportional and warranted.

    This brings us to the genuinely baffling and incoherent observation about intangibles. This is an incident reminiscent of Mike Gundy’s infamous "I’m a man! I’m 40!" rant, which played poorly in the news media but undoubtedly impressed a lot of mothers who wanted their sons to play for the Oklahoma St. Cowboys because they knew Coach Gundy had his players’ backs. The talking heads in Bristol seemed not to notice it, but Coach Gundy and the Pokes gained much, much more than they lost that day.

    In that same vein, what, precisely, is the intangibles edge Georgia supposedly lost? The Commodores were cut-blocking the Bulldogs; Georgia players impermissibly and unwisely retaliated, deservedly incurring penalties in the process; a Georgia player was on the ground at the end of the game; the opposing coach who certainly allowed, and likely condoned, the cut-blocking, and who already had come onto the field yelling, pointed and probably spoke to a Bulldog player; the Red and Black defense had performed as poorly as it had in weeks . . . yet still Coach Grantham came onto the field, confronted the offending party man-to-man, and stuck up for his players, in front of the young men who saw first-hand just how much their defensive coordinator had their backs. As a result, the impression those players will carry into the open date is not, "Man, we just messed around and nearly got beat by Vanderbilt," but is instead, "Man, Coach Grantham is behind us, and we’re going to go out and play with that kind of intensity!" I’m sorry, but I’m not seeing the downside.
  • My thanks go out to everyone who attended the Goat Roast, and most especially to podunkdawg for coming up with the idea and making it happen twice now. Despite the anguish the last two Goat Roast games have produced, both events have been a lot of fun, and it’s really cool getting to see everyone face-to-face.
  • Don’t sweat the close win over Vanderbilt; it was a win, which was won without Malcolm Mitchell and largely without Isaiah Crowell. As I noted in last night’s Mark Richt Victory Watch, Georgia’s last close win in Nashville served as the precursor to a dominant stretch run, and the ‘Dawgs take a five-game winning streak into the bye week, during which the Red and Black will be able to get rested and ready for the Florida game. Feel good, Bulldog Nation . . . just don’t feel too good. It’s a fine line, but, fortunately, walking it is coachable.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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Shoot.

Subject-verb agreement issue spotted; it should’ve been “reactions,” not “reaction.” My bad; it was a late night, a long drive, and an early wake-up call.

Thanks again to everyone who attended the Goat Roast. I had a great time.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 16, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

It's okay Kyle, I earned this one....

I’m the guy who said Butler’s punt couldn’t be blocked. Yep, I was that guy. I don’t know why I said it – perhaps because it had never happened before last night, maybe I needed to reassure myself about our VERY Special Teams or the outcome of the game in general.

I’m just glad Podunk didn’t have to ban me…..

by Just Some Dawg on Oct 16, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...

… and I insisted that the game was over right before the punt, too.

Don’t worry, Just Some Dawg… I put us both on notice in the post that’s coming out at 6:00. :-)

by vineyarddawg on Oct 16, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm looking forward to it.

Also, all y’all should be looking forward to the posting that’s coming out an hour later, which will give you what I assure you is the feel good stat of the next two weeks.

In the meantime, though, televised Georgia soccer in a couple of hours!

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 16, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no nails left on my fingers this morning..

At least now I know who to blame for the blocked punt. Thou shalt not tempt the football karma gods.:)

by CaptJackSparrow on Oct 16, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Special Teams horrific.

Now in addition to giving up a 68 TD to a defensive lineman on a fake put, we have given up another fake put with a pass completion to a CENTER. What other bizarre ways can we be snookered by these fake punts? I can’t think of any but I am sure I will see more before year’s end. We seem to THE team in the SEC that everyone knows they can be successful with their special gadget plays.

Not to mention our own botched kick returns, blocked kicks, some botched FG attempts.

Damn, I am working my self into a lather. Better switch to decaf rest of the morning.

Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the Dawgs of war; - Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1

by Vietnam Dog on Oct 16, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Got to support a coach who has his players back

I bet Franklin thinks twice before going out there and trying to pull a stunt like that against us again.

d-wade=d-ouche

by captainamerica* on Oct 16, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that in the end

Vandy players will rally behind Franklin’s actions just like I believe Georgia players will rally behind Grantham. As embarrassing as it is having that kind of on field incident, it could turn out to be a net positive…for both teams.

by UGAVike on Oct 16, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're right, UGAVike.

Both sides’ players will, and should, rally around their respective coaches. I just don’t like the portrayal of Todd Grantham as the instigator here. He was the instigator last year in Jacksonville, but, this year, the shoe is on the other foot: Coach Grantham was reacting, not acting.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 16, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Kyle

If I ever need a lawyer (heaven forbid), I know who I’m gonna call. I was on the fence about Grantham’s behavior, but as usual after reading your take I’m sold. My only issue that remains is, he still needs to consider that his behavior could have been the catalyst to a huge brawl. Which, in turn, could have resulted in multiple suspensions. And IMO destroyed the season. Although I realize that it didn’t play out that way and we’ve nothing to gain worrying about the what ifs. Hopefully it doesn’t turn out to be a bad deal and forever be in the mind if James Franklin…Haha.

by dgreene on Oct 16, 2011 1:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks, dgreene.

You’re right, it could have turned ugly, and Todd Grantham should consider in the future, but he’s not the one who put hands on anyone; security did that, which was what caused the situation to escalate. He could’ve contained himself better, but his outrage was justified, and the actions of others incited the situation. I don’t have a problem with Coach Grantham being the Mark Messier to Mark Richt’s Wayne Gretzky . . . or the Erk Russell to Coach Richt’s Vince Dooley.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 16, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to admit

At the beginning of the game, when I saw the Vandy students in the front row who’d painted their chests to spell “Inbred Dogs” or something, all I wanted was to hang 50 on ‘em. If not for field goal and punt shenanigans, we might’ve done just that, but alas. And then with the chop blocks, James Franklin’s aggressive crap, whatever happened to Rambo on the last play (unless it was just cramps or something), I don’t mind if the Commies get smoked in every venture for the next decade.

by Redcoat on Oct 16, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Bacarri Rambo could simply have been cramping up, . . .

. . . although I think that’s unlikely, at that stage of the game, and in that kind of weather. However, because I don’t know why he was down, I was careful not to be accusatory; I don’t know that anything a Vanderbilt player did put him on the ground. However, Coach Grantham didn’t know that, either, at that point, so, given the givens—-player on the ground; cut-blocking going on all game; James Franklin pointing and calling out a Georgia player—-I understand why he reacted as he did, even if I understand the argument for why he shouldn’t have. When the other coach’s players are playing dirty, and the other coach has the unmitigated gall to call out one of your players, you’re entitled to berate him for his insolent hypocrisy. This is one of those situations where asking forgiveness is better than asking permission.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 16, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lattimore done for the year

According to Andy Staples twitter.

by Mark Mandingo on Oct 16, 2011 2:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I hate to hear that.

Obviously, Georgia may reap some derivative benefits from the damage this is apt to do to the Gamecocks’ chances going forward, but that’s not how I want my team to win. Marcus Lattimore is a fine football player and a tough competitor, and I send him my best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 16, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't you see it coming though?

Just a Vince Dooley got Herschel hurt, Steve Spurrier got Lattimore hurt. Look at every running back that was a go to “horse” they all end up with an injury (usually a leg or knee) at some point. No offense should be that one dimensional. You can look at the NFL “athletic QBs” as well. Michael Vick is hurt. Warren Moon was injured off and on. Probably a long list of RB and QBs that were the workhorses that got hurt.

We need to be more careful with IC.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You want to know my honest opinion?

(Other than being sorry for South Carolina, of course.)

This now makes Florida the favorite to win the East. Yes, 2-3-in-the-SEC Florida.

Florida has lost to 3 teams from the SEC West, which is clearly the superior division this year. Their only remaining SEC games are Georgia, South Carolina, and Vanderbilt. They’re going to beat the latter 2, and unless the earth opens up and swallows Gainesville in the next two weeks, likely Georgia, too.

So Florida is going to end with a 5-3 SEC record. Right now, Georgia is 4-1, but still has to play Florida, Auburn, and Kentucky. If we lose to Florida, Auburn, and beat Kentucky, we’ll have a 5-3 record, but will have lost to the Gators, so Florida will once again represent the East in Atlanta.

I guess the net of what I’m saying is that the Cocktail Party is for the SEC East title.

by vineyarddawg on Oct 16, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

Florida’s problems go way beyond not having Brantley. Say what you will about SC, they win ugly. I still think its completely up in the air.

by Mark Mandingo on Oct 16, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Let's get rested and focused this week. And beat UF next week, and go from there.

This season is flying by. They are already listing out bowls and NC games and the computers come out today. This is the meat of our season – UF, AU, GT. I want to enjoy it while I can, because December will be here soon and we will be missing football again. I have accepted any/all of our wins will be hideous, ugly and painful. I just hope to win them at this point.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This comment

isn’t nearly as negative as it needs to be for us to win, Tankertoad.

by InternationalDawg on Oct 16, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle - point by point

- AM had a better game but he is still off. His deep ball pass is still off and he missed a few easy short ones. I am just glad it got better. Maybe his confidence will improve. Blair Walsh was Mr go to until this year, and CMR needs to pick a number, call it 40 yards, where if isn’t shorter than that we punt or go for it. BW doesnt need to leave our opponents with that much yardage anymore. I appreciate CMR giving him chances, but no more long ones.

- I told you if it didnt go well, it was my fault for being positive. I wanted to be in a good mood about a game and win one clean. Their O wasnt good, our D was very good, it seemed we would do well. However, no one saw what last night happened coming. I will be very worried about every game from here on out. )

- CT went absent in the second half and 4th Quarter. Good old Coach Bobo running worthless plays with RS. I wont go on to much about this one, but the green note book was seen repeatedly in this game, we even opened up the game with it, and we all know it now. Everyone sees it. CMR will not remove CMB during the season, but how he handles it off season, I will be very interested in. This “use RS for a 3 and out” and throwing the deep ball on 3rd and 5 needs to stop.

- I also posted RAMBO INT! DAWGS WIN! too early. I should have known better than to think our O can get one first down at the end of the game. GNB and finish the drill were none existent, again, we we could have closed. Maybe the blocked punt will put the clue bird in the coaches and players head it aint over until its over. Our O needs to learn to get 1 or 2 first downs at the end of a game, whatever the problem is.

- Good on Marlon Brown – hope this helps his confidence. We need two deep threat guys along with Bennet’s medium range reliability. This will help stretch Ds and help the run. T King is doing better as well.

- People wanted a fired up Coach, and we got one. Vandy’s coach was stupid to come out to midfield running his mouth and CTG was just returning the favor. I thought I went off about the officiated enough last week – but maybe I need to do more of it and mail it to our AD. The lack of calls on illegal blocks led to a lot of this. There was, again, too much “PWG” (playing while Georgia) and eventually it’s going to build up and kids will be kids. CMR was all up in the refs ear in this game. We even got an D offsides call with no encroachment, just moving the D around, ridiculous. We got called for a PF for a face slap when the Vandy player threw a few slaps himself; the ref saw the entire thing and only flagged UGA. Vandy played dirty, talked trash and the refs supported it and then Vandy’s coach goes out to midfield jawing and pointing this is all a formula for a mid field fight. I support CTG for being PO’d that Vandy couldn’t walk out and shake hands appropriately. And I salute the kids after the fight that shook hands and acted better. All of this can be used for teaching points and team meeting discussions. UGA has got to learn they are “PWG” and shut our mouths and fill your role.

- Podunkdawg is awesome. She has raised money for a child, put two socials together, got us the T Shirts and always touches base to monitor the blog. Glad the Goat Roast was fun and I missed being there.

- We beat Vandy at Vandy at night in a game we overlook every few years. And this year’s Vandy is NOT last year’s Vandy. It’s a W. I enjoy doing the Xs and Os but our Special Teams are so horrible I don’t think any good analysis can be done until our STs are fixed. They are hurting us on both sides of the ball. I hope our team has the take away that they can win a scrappy, tough game and learns nothing is a given and goes to Jacksonville with the attitude they must play hard, shut their mouths, don’t let the “PWG” get them down and plays hard for 60 minutes. Our STs need to stop hurting us so badly so we can fix the things on Xs and Os that we need to fix.

- Final points on our D. I said on the podcast our weakness on D was containment. We had a lot of containment issues. We over pursued. And we need our full LB corps back. Oh, and I did get my wish of multiple INTs. Our DBs are so much more improved, physical, and we are very close, again, to having 5 or 6 INTs.

- Final points on O: We need to score TDs in the red zone. We stall at around the 30 to 20 yard line. Play calling, execution, whatever. Fix it CMR and CMB.

- Thanks to all for a lively game thread and all the knew folks. Cherokee’s Grip, Ed Wilson and a few others had me laughing so hard while I watched disaster on tv. I am glad most folks went with the sarcasm and laughter when we had disaster in the game (for the most part). One secret: After the blocked punt at the end, I thought I was about to post a Dawgs lose post game rant and I was preparing for a firestorm. I am glad that didnt happen.

-

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Well said,

and not just because you mentioned me. I was right there with you on that blocked punt; I was trying to figure out how I was going to manage to write a poem that wasn’t going to get me fired as poet laureate. I don’t remember who it was that said he had to stare at the TV for a few seconds before he realized that we actually tackled the guy and that we hadn’t yet lost the game. My eyes are still bleeding from watching the wilddawgcatwhatever twice in a row and from watching our special teams act special. As unfortunate as the ending of the game was, it does provide me with numerous literary opportunities; as a Dawg, I’ve learned to take victories wherever, whenever, and however I can get them.

by Cherokee's Grip on Oct 16, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was Xon agreeing with me that we thought they scored a TD for a moment.

I am a fundamental loss for words about the “double wild dawg”. Every game our success come from mid range passes and some good runs and yet every game CMB has some new special strategy.

I look forward to your poem, as usual.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Murray does a better job with long balls

Brown has an amazing game. At least one he was wide open for an easy TD, and Murray just screwed it. If Murray was hitting, we tear them apart.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 16, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't look now

But we just cracked the AP poll at #24.

While don’t expect Kyle to rank us until after the Florida game, for obvious reasons, it’s good to see our team starting to get back into the national picture.

"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.

by Jman781 on Oct 16, 2011 3:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

and CBS

can avoid having two unranked teams.

by Mark Mandingo on Oct 16, 2011 3:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I heard the computers will announce

that they’re taking their talents to South Beach.

by elfcrash on Oct 16, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nah.

They’ll just announce that the new #1 is Qatar.

by vineyarddawg on Oct 16, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would really enjoy if there is a foul up and Bama is ranked 5th or some sort of craziness.

I actually like the BCS system more than most (certainly more than a playoff), but I always enjoy BCS drama.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, I guess I'll be "that guy" and ask...

… what’s the new masthead mean? The “KTMF” part is pretty self-explanatory… but how about the rest?

by vineyarddawg on Oct 16, 2011 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

We have a winner!

Precisely, UGAVike. Well done!

(In this case, obviously, “MF” is short for the “Snakes on a Plane” -ing form, rather than the more common -er form.)

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 16, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's some GNB for you:

UGA’s first four possessions: missed field goal (50 yards), punt (three and out), field goal (53 yards), missed field goal (42 yards). Twice the Dogs failed to capitalize on Vandy turnovers. Their first touchdown came only after a botched Commodores punt.

CMR cannot rely on the long FG this year IMO. And the GNB was out in force in the 1st Q.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I was losing my mind

at the end of the game. A first down wins the game with no more drama. Instead we run it out of the shotgun into a loaded box for a loss. It was obvious that the coaches were content to take as much time off the clock as they could then punt it and hope the defense could prevent the big play. If Vandy had had less than 2 timeouts, or there had been 20 fewer seconds left on the clock, they would’ve been right. Instead, we basically took a knee on three plays and casually set up to punt. We weren’t even careful. Punt formation was a mess. Punt gets blocked and we’re in trouble.

If we were going to run it and try to kill the clock… Why not do so from a power formation? The falcons put in an extra lineman in those situations and run it down the other teams throat with a FB leading the way. I don’t understand what we were doing. How about we throw it to Samuel or Figgins out in the flats against that loaded box? In fact… Why didn’t we run that play at all? Ugh

by DocSkraynj on Oct 16, 2011 5:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Yea, I agree. Shotgun handoffs to RS - and not the first time this year.

We ran IC for no reason against Ole Miss for a 3 and out.

Wrong players, formations, calls.

And the punt, again, don’t we assume they were going to go for a block. They almost had too in order to win.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I did my AJC driveby.

I dont believe Shultz, Towers or Bill King actually watch football games. They bemoaned UGA’s penalities and lack of discipline without any mention to the horrible officiating and Vandy’s continual holds and cut blocks. They are right about out STs being horrible.

And the message boards. 90% of those people dont know a single thing about football. I wish the AJC would get at least one guy that likes UGA and knows football on the staff for some counter point and smart reporting. Kyle’s analysis is better than anything those guys wrote, and most of what they wrote were some stats and block quotes.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

It really is sad

But I haven’t gone to the ajc since Tony B left. Its just not worth getting worked up about. I think about the comments there like Lovecraft thinks about the Necromomicon. Man should not know such things.

by Mark Mandingo on Oct 16, 2011 4:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Someone warned me a few weeks ago "Why would you do that?"

But as a writer here and doing radio/podcasts, I like to drive by when there is “drama” to see what the AJC is saying. But I try to wear my body armor. I don’t know why Shultz and Towers even write on UGA – they aren’t fans. BIll King called Chuck Dowdle “always positive”. Uh, that’s a bad thing? What the heck?

And every time something happens the message boards are endless “Fire X”. Apparently locking players in a cage and firing all the coaches every year is the formula for success. Furthermore, because most people don’t watch and follow football closely, they just assumed Vandy is bad and UGA should win. Except Vandy this year is much better than last year, and if you actually followed the SEC you would know this.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I literally never read the AJC columnists any more.

I go to the AJC site for news, but the sports guys just angry up my blood.

by vineyarddawg on Oct 16, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah, it is kind of bizarre when you take it completely out of context

What I said was that if you’re someone who believes in distractions being a major factor — and, with a few exceptions, I’m not — it’s not unreasonable to ask the question. If you don’t think this is going to at least a bit of a distraction, that strikes me as a bit bizarre

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Oct 16, 2011 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know what you mean by "completely out of context," because I don't think I took it that way, . . .

. . . and I know you recognize “I was taken out of context” for the cop-out it usually is. If you’re going to buy into distractions being a major factor, though, it seems pretty clear that this ended a distraction rather than creating one. As I indicated, this eliminates any risk of the focus being on the Bulldogs’ poor play and puts it on a defensive coordinator’s willingness to go to bat for his players. Besides, South Carolina just lost Marcus Lattimore—-sincerely, I’m sorry about that, by the way—-and Georgia is playing Florida, so I’m pretty sure intangible distractions from last Saturday are utterly irrelevant to both teams.

I’m sorry if I misread you, and I’m sorry if I worded it in such a way that you misread me, but, yeah, it seemed strange to me, and I’m baffled at how the general focus seems to be on Todd Grantham, rather than on James Franklin, when Coach Franklin rather clearly was the aggressor here.

For the record, you should take the compliment; I don’t care when the Journal-Constitution writers miss the real story, because they always miss the real story. I linked to Jason Kirk and you because I always appreciate both of your takes on the stories of the day. This just happens to be an instance in which I strongly disagree with Jason’s and your perspectives.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 16, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am in agreement -

At the least both Coaches should be called out. But this perception James Franklin is ok and Coach Grantham isn’t is flat out wrong.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any Bulldog fan

Who expresses anything even remotely resembling even a degree of confidence about a game against FLORIDA has clearly been living in a cave on Mars, with his eyes shut, and his fingers in his ears, for lo these past 20 years.

A Georgia fan going into a Cocktail Party feeling confident is like a Buffalo Bills fan going into a Super Bowl feeling confident. Or an England fan going into a World Cup feeling confident. Or an Ohio State fan going into a Sugar Bowl feeling confident.

by RJohn on Oct 16, 2011 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I always mentally pencil Florida in as a loss

and pat myself on the back for not writing that L in pen before it happens.

by Cherokee's Grip on Oct 16, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Vandy fans are too bright on football.

Apparently they think UGA played the dirtier game. The refs actually hurt them more.
They also feel they played well (as for Rogers, I give them that). And should have won.
They think they just needed to catch the ball more – no mention our DBs owned them.
They now think CMR is classless. Which shows they didnt watch or read his post game reviews.

The concept UGA blew STs to heck to give them many more chances than they should have had doesnt even exist. No discussion of how badly UGA blew it in the red zone. No mention of multiple missed FGs that would have made it more than a two score game. geez.

I hoped to kill someone this year. I will now except winning every game as ugly as it gets, as long as we win.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow. Just . . . wow.

If that’s really how the Vanderbilt fans feel, they’re exhibiting a combination of arrogance and ignorance last seen among the Auburn fans after last year’s game. James Franklin let his players play dirty, then had the gall to call out a Georgia player for reacting to the situation he created. That level of hypocrisy is intolerable, and good for Todd Grantham for calling BS on that nonsense.

Any Vanderbilt fan who calls Mark Richt classless is clueless. In 2007, when Georgia players danced on the Commodores’ midfield star, Coach Richt angrily shoved his players off the star, apologized personally to Bobby Johnson during the postgame handshake, and publicly apologized to the Vanderbilt faithful in a nationally televised postgame interview. That’s the definition of class, and any group of people whose student section dons “inbred” body paint for a game and whose head coach condones a second half full of cut-blocking, then calls out a Bulldog player for not liking it, has no business whatsoever criticizing anyone else’s class.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 16, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many more penalties do they think should've been called against us?

It was pretty one-sided in terms of flags thrown, and that wasn’t in our favor.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 16, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are actually using that stat to say we were dirtier.

They dont know anything about PWG.

Vandy is just being pissed because they lost and making excuses. Like any weak fan base.

IF we lost, we would say we suck. MSU and Vandy (now) and SC (always) cant just say we suck. Or sucked.

The defining deference between UGA and everyone else is this: WE SAID WE JUST SUCKED LAST YEAR and we did it from the get go. oh, and we dont take ugly wins as some sign of glory.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 16, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugly, ugly win.

Ugly wins a infitnitely better than ugly losses. Our coaches get all the information that would normally come from a crushing loss, yet we still get a W.

Get it straightened out. Get it calmed down. Get our guys rested. And find a way to beat Florida. We got work to do.

by first and thom on Oct 16, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

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