Too Much Information: Georgia Bulldogs at Vanderbilt Commodores
Next Saturday night, we will be gathered together for the Second Annual Dawg Sports Sacrificial Goat Roast to watch the Georgia Bulldogs tussle with the Vanderbilt Commodores in Nashville. This is a big game, insofar as it will either build on or obliterate the momentum the Red and Black have carried with them over the course of the last several weeks.
As we prepare for the SEC East showdown, we need to take a long look at the Commodores. Here are the historical and statistical minutiae you will need to know, conveniently combined in a single fact-filled package that offers not an increment of insight, nor a dribble of detail, but, rather, Too Much Information:
The Classic City Canines lead the all-time series with the Music City Mariners with a 51-18-2 ledger that includes a 23-11-2 mark in Nashville. Since 1958, the Red and Black have gone 21-2-1 against the Commies in the Music City, where the ‘Dawgs have taken nine in a row from the ‘Dores.
Since falling to Vanderbilt in 2006, Georgia has won four in a row over the Commodores. The Red and Black have held a series winning streak of exactly four games on four previous occasions, from 1962 to 1965, 1974 to 1977, 1986 to 1989, and 1995 to 1998. Each of those became a five-game winning streak, by margins of 32-6 (in 1968, after a two-year layoff), 31-10 (in 1978), 39-28 (in 1990), and 27-17 (in 1999).
Vanderbilt ranks first nationally in interceptions, with 14 picks in five games. Georgia is tied for 13th nationally in interceptions, with eight picks in six games. Curiously, though, neither the Bulldogs nor the Commodores snagged an opposing quarterback’s aerial last Saturday.
Georgia hasn’t lost to South Carolina and Vanderbilt in the same season since 1958.
The Commodores rank tenth in the SEC in rushing offense, averaging 115.2 yards per game. This is the Music City Mariners’ strength on that side of the ball, as Vandy ranks 11th in the league in passing offense (129.2 yards per game), total offense (244.4 yards per game), and scoring offense (20.4 points per game).
Prior to last weekend, Mark Richt had led the Athenians to victory in Knoxville on three previous occasions. In each of those three seasons, Coach Richt’s club completed the Volunteer State sweep by winning in Nashville thereafter.
Georgia last lost to Vanderbilt in a season in which the Bulldogs beat Tennessee in 1973. Before that, the last time it happened was in 1923.
On Saturday night, James Franklin will become the 14th head coach in Vanderbilt history to face Georgia in his first year on the job. Believe it or not, the previous 13 Commodore skippers to cross paths with the Red and Black as rookies were a combined 6-7 against the Athenians in those inaugural campaigns.
Admittedly, four of the six first-time winners achieved that feat prior to 1904, and six of the last seven Vanderbilt coaches began their careers in Nashville with an 0-1 record against the Bulldogs, but it isn’t as though no one in Coach Franklin’s position has ever had success against Georgia.
I have watched a total of three Georgia games while sitting (or pacing) in proximity to podunkdawg. We were seated in the same section at the 2009 Oklahoma State game and at the 2010 Liberty Bowl, and, of course, we both were at the Blind Pig Tavern for the 2010 Colorado game. The Bulldogs’ record in those three games was 0-3. Yeah, if we lose this Saturday night, there’s no way in the world she and I are ever watching a game together again.
Against conference competition, the Commodores were held scoreless by the Alabama Crimson Tide, were limited to three points by the South Carolina Gamecocks, and tallied their 30 points against the Mississippi Rebels on a trio of running plays, an interception return, and a safety. In other words . . . Vanderbilt has not thrown a touchdown pass against an SEC team in 2011.
As noted above, the Bulldogs are pretty respectable in the interception department. In addition to ranking sixth nationally in total defense and twelfth nationally against the run---yes, Todd Grantham has orchestrated a defensive resurgence in the Classic City---the Red and Black field the country’s eleventh-best pass defense, permitting just 174.7 yards per game through the air, and that’s after facing Kellen Moore and Tyler Bray in the season’s first six weeks. The Georgia secondary should be able to hold the Vandy quarterback in check, though it remains to be seen which quarterback will get the call for the Commies.
2011 marks just the second autumn in Georgia football history to have seen the Bulldogs lose to South Carolina but beat Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and Tennessee. The only other time that happened was in 1988, Vince Dooley’s last year on the Sanford Stadium sideline, my first quarter in Athens as a University of Georgia undergraduate, and a season in which the Red and Black beat the Commodores by a 41-22 final margin.
A loss on Saturday would be disastrous, so what matters most, of course, is that the ‘Dawgs win. That said, how they win is important, too. With the open date on the horizon and the crucial stretch run looming, Georgia needs to do emphatically against Vanderbilt what the Athenians did not do at all in their last three games; namely, put an opponent away early.
I’ve been saying for a while that the Bulldogs needed to win a close one, in order to prove to themselves they could do it. Well, they’ve done it, so now they need to open up a can on someone. Isaiah Crowell and Malcolm Mitchell need to get healthy, and none of our other starters need to get hurt, which means the Red and Black need to win convincingly and get an early start on the bye week, so Georgia can begin getting rested and ready as swiftly as humanly possible. The sooner Aaron Murray is wearing a baseball cap on the sidelines while watching Hutson Mason run the offense, the better.
For what it’s worth, the Bulldogs’ last two wins over Vanderbilt came by scores of 34-10 in 2009 and 43-0 in 2010. Georgia hasn’t won three straight series meetings over the Commodores by margins of 20 points or more since the period from 1979 to 1981. The latter season, you may recall, saw the ‘Dawgs go 10-2, with one of the two losses coming against a prominent non-conference opponent with national title aspirations despite not belonging to a major conference and the other coming against a longstanding rival from the Palmetto State in a game in which the Red and Black quarterback committed multiple turnovers. I seem to recall there being an SEC championship that season, as well.
So, yeah, we need Georgia to win this one, and it’d be better if they won it by a lot, and did so from the get-go.
My Prediction: Georgia Bulldogs 38, Vanderbilt Commodores 17.
Go ‘Dawgs!
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I think you give both teams way too many points
24-7 would be my prediction.
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I'm not sure I buy that Vanderbilt will score 17 points, even against our second stringers...
but part of me would be perversely happy about Vanderbilt outperforming Tennessee offensively.
I will admit that Jordan Rodgers can sling it better than Larry can.
He’s got a little bit of his big brother in him (Aaron Rodgers).
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
Methinks you forget.....
that for those last 2 games, I joined you & podunk. Maybe it’s ME, not her!
you were also present
with me for the Boise State Game – i think it might be the combination of you & me!
I can bake like a demon.
Vanderbilt wasn't a real Commodore
And he had a cousin named Frank……who was also his 2nd wife.
#themoreyouknow
by Mark Mandingo on Oct 10, 2011 5:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Word on the street is that Mitchell will sit and Crowell will play.
As long as their is apparently no risk of inflaming Crowell’s injury, I don’t mind him NOT going three weeks between snaps before the FL game (pardon the double negative). He needs the practice.
... also pardon the "their"
Can we petition to have gammar and spell-check added to the comment application?
Only if each user can turn it off.
I have to disengage Word’s grammar check because it’s proven itself to know far less about grammar than I know.
by NCT on Oct 11, 2011 7:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Practice what exactly? He needs to be healthy in order to have productive practice. Practicing winged just ingrains bad habits and trepidation.
"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker
Well I've never coached 18 & 19 year olds to play SEC football...
…but it seems logical that since he’s only a freshman more in-game experience couldn’t hurt.
Are you concerned that he will get hit in a tender spot and then be scared of getting hit there again? You probably have a point, especially in the way he might try to hold the football. I have to believe that the millions of $ worth of coaches he has will be able to talk him through that. BTW, I’m not trying to say he should be run into the ground or anything, but just take him out with the rest of the starters as it gets to that point.
IMHO -
IC has plenty of god given talent. But he isn’t Herschel. I dont think he needs practice as much as he needs a lot of healing and rest. He has gotten the ball over 30 times several occasions, so he is getting a lot of playing time really. If Samuel could run worth a durn, IC would probably see less snaps.
And yea, certain injuries can lead to certain bad tendencies, or they could get worse. I would like to see IC very healthy for Jacksonville. I guess the best balance, if he is healthy enough, is to get some good playing time – 20-25 carries, and then sit out as much as possible. Hopefully we won’t GNB this game and get a good, solid lead.
"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker
Best case scenario
he has around 12 carries in the first half, while Samuel and Thomas split the load in the second as he rests.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 10, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
Starters in the first half, build up a lead; backups in the second half, rest the starters and get the second- and third-stringers game experience.
Go 'Dawgs!
And as muck says...
if Bobo decides to “go conservative”, get the starters out then and there.
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No such thing as "god" given talent . . .
Only God given talent.
Hate to be picky but sometimes capitalization matters.
You want to go there? Seriously?
99.9% of the time I say “G*d” given talent. IF you want to poke me, be prepared to get bit if you want to go into theology.
Do some research, read my posts, and get back to me.
"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker
besides...
you can’t make a post without at least one typo or other error. It’s a fact!
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by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 10, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I would go with "God-given."
While we are grammar policing, I can point out the necessity of leaving off commas in the case of a “so that” clause. It is essential. Remember that so you don’t add one next time. This seems a total non-sequiter, so I understand if anyone is confused.
by stretchdavis on Oct 11, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
We're on the same page.
How about just two carries that just happen to be about 80 yards each?
by mbrd71 on Oct 10, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Vanderbilt's defense leads the conference in INT's.
I figure they’ve got a pick 6 in them against Aaron Murray, and probably a return to the red zone, too.
Final score: Dawgs, 38- 14
Yea, but 3 were against SC and they only scored 3pts off of that. Garcia handed it to us plenty as well, we just wouldnt catch it.
"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker
Garcia threw 4 picks that game
and Vandy failed to get 80 yards total in that game. I’m confident our defense can win this game, and may outscore the Commodores on their own. They also got another 5 on Ole Miss, and we saw what kind of passing game they had, with another 5 coming from those vaunted offenses at Elon and UConn.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
Not to doubt any of these DawgSports traditions, but there is honestly no way to feel that Vandy can give us a run for our money overall in the game. They may jump to a 7-3 lead after the 1st quarter, but sense between these 2 teams gives us an automatic win. By a decently wide margin. Over 20 points.
My prediction:
Georgia 35, Vandy 14.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
"Here in the National League where we play REAL baseball, DH means double-header." -Me.
Vandy's offense
is atrocious. And we have (probably) the third best defense in the SEC. This is a good time to shut them out.
The whole point is...
winning an SEC road game is easier said than done, especially if your team walks in overconfident expecting the opponent to roll over.
http://sportsandgrits.com/
Feel weird stat of the week:
Brandon Boykin has the second most all purpose yards this year. Only 44 yards shy of the leader, Crowell (who is on pace for over 1300 all purpose yards).
Last season
we shut out Vandy with a defense that didn’t quite know what they were doing. We’re better this year. I still don’t trust our special teams and offense, and not having Mitchell hurts. Could we actually throw the ball to Orson Charles more than twice this week? I think we ride #7 and get Boykin and Bennett involved a bunch.
Dawgs 29
Vandy 10
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
Just curious here, but I see the “You’re on Notice, Dawg!” posts, and I was wondering, where did the Steve Colbert picture come up from? Like, what’s the story behind that? Is he a Georgia fan?
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
"Here in the National League where we play REAL baseball, DH means double-header." -Me.
Or is it a photoshop?
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
"Here in the National League where we play REAL baseball, DH means double-header." -Me.
The 100% honest truth, ChopMaster...
… is that Kyle used the on notice thing for one post at some point in 2010 (and probably had used it before at some point, too), and I thought, “Hey, that would make a neat feature… putting people on notice every week.” The first post got really good feedback, and voila… “You’re on Notice, Dawg!” was born.
by vineyarddawg on Oct 11, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Dang it, Kyle!
You’re giving away all our best secrets!! :-(
by vineyarddawg on Oct 11, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
What is the view of the commentariat with regard to tickets this w/e?
Do we wait until we get there to look for four together or do I overpay on stubhub?
by Gen. Stoopnagle on Oct 11, 2011 8:34 AM EDT reply actions
Can you not get tickets through the Vandy ticket office?
I can’t imagine that it’s sold out.
by vineyarddawg on Oct 11, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny thing about Vandy
The last two Georgia teams, both of which were severely flawed, had no trouble at all with Vanderbilt.
Yet ‘08 Georgia got into a slog with the ’Dores. ’07 Georgia should’ve lost to them, and ’06 Georgia did.
Eh. We’re better than Vandy. Play like it and we’ll have no problems.

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