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Georgia Bulldogs 24, Mississippi State Bulldogs 10: Second Verse, Same as the First

The Georgia Bulldogs led the Mississippi St. Bulldogs in first downs (20-13), total offense (315-213), passing yardage (160-157), rushing yardage (155-56), and time of possession (34:39-25:21). Thanks in no small part to Isaiah Crowell’s 104 yards on 22 carries, the Classic City Canines doubled up the Magnolia State Mongrels in yards per rushing attempt (3.2-1.6). The Red and Black D gave up five first downs in 18 third- and fourth-down plays, never allowing as many as 20 yards on any single snap. The penalties and turnovers evened out at eight and three per side, respectively. I predicted a 14-point victory, and I got it.

Why, then, do I feel as bad as I felt after last week’s two-touchdown win over a Magnolia State SEC opponent? Why does this year’s 24-10 win over Mississippi State feel like a nailbiter, when last year’s 24-12 loss to Mississippi State felt like a beatdown?

Star-divide

So much of this game went so very, very well. The Red and Black never trailed in a game they led by eleven after one quarter and by 18 at intermission. Vick Ballard, LaDarius Perkins, and Chris Relf all were held to fewer than three yards per carry, and the Mississippi State offense was held without a touchdown. The defense pitched its third consecutive second-half shutout, and Sanders Commings and Shawn Williams both brought in interceptions.

Brandon Boykin, one of multiple defensive standouts for the hometown Bulldogs, also contributed on special teams, providing 43 yards on a pair of kickoff returns and 45 yards on a trio of punt returns. The Athenians, on the other hand, allowed 34 total yards on a combined four kickoff and punt returns.

Georgia dominated this game defensively and, with one exception (to which we shall turn forthwith) looked much improved on special teams. What, then, was the problem? First of all, there was that lone exception in the kicking game; namely, the field goal unit. Blair Walsh connected on just half of his three-point attempts, and a fake field goal resulted in a four-yard loss.

Primarily, though, there was the simple, and infuriating, fact that the Bulldogs saw diminishing returns on offense. The Georgia O produced 14 points in the first quarter, seven points in the second quarter, three points in the third quarter, and (thanks to a 72-yard Darius Slay touchdown return of one of three Aaron Murray interceptions on the day) minus-seven points in the fourth quarter.

The home team began the third quarter holding a 21-3 lead, received the opening kickoff, and started at its own 30 yard line following a 27-yard return by Boykin. A pair of obvious handoffs to Crowell and an incomplete pass by Murray turned first and ten into fourth and 13. A 44-yard Drew Butler punt and a six-yard MSU drive later, the ball was back in the Red and Black’s hands, and with the pigskin came the renewed opportunity to put the game away. Instead, the Eastern Division Bulldogs ran three plays for nine yards, then punted.

Once more, Todd Grantham’s defense kept the Western Division Bulldogs in check. After three plays gained one yard, the visitors bobbled a snap on a punt, allowing Georgia to take over on downs at the visitors’ 14 yard line. This golden opportunity to put the game out of reach ended disastrously, both in conception and in execution. After Murray gave his all to set up a fourth and one on the MSU five yard line, the Red and Black opted for the trickery of a fake field goal over the obvious decision to line up and go for it deep in enemy territory.

The two teams traded punts, then Commings recovered a Mississippi State fumble to reclaim possession for the Red and Black 15 yards in front of the opposition’s goal line. The Georgia offense advanced the oval only five yards from that point, all of them on an MSU penalty. Walsh split the uprights from 28 yards out to make it 24-3. After the Classic City Canines held on downs on the ensuing drive, the home team marched from its own 30 to the visitors’ 32 on six straight running plays, taking more than four minutes off the clock in the process. On an ill-conceived first-down aerial, Murray threw the pick-six that brought the Magnolia State Mongrels to within two scores.

Georgia worked the clock expertly on the local Bulldogs’ next possession, bleeding more than five and a half minutes on nine consecutive running plays, but the drive that could have extended the lead to 17 points culminated in a missed field goal. Mississippi State therefore had nearly three minutes and still had half a chance, but the Red and Black D snuffed out the visiting Bulldogs’ hopes with the interception that allowed Murray to kneel out the victory.

A nearly flawless first half put the Athenians in a position to deliver the knockout blow early in the third quarter, but the offense never put the game out of reach. Murray was far from sharp, Walsh’s woes continued, and failures of wisdom and will on the part of the coaching staff prevented the offense from bringing down the hobnailed boot, so a stellar effort by the defense and a sound overall performance on special teams were marred by a final margin on the scoreboard that was less than the sum of the plays that unfolded on the field.

As 14-point victories over conference opponents go, this one wasn’t quite as disappointing as last weekend’s was, but still I left Sanford Stadium on a gorgeous day in the Classic City feeling underwhelmed after believing at halftime that I would depart feeling overjoyed. In this tale of two halves, I spent the first 30 minutes being reminded that this team is close and the last 30 minutes being reminded that this team is still far away.

Coffee is for closers. Finish the drill.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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Positive Polly comment ---- love how the D backs are playing and Figgins is a beast.

Negative Nellie comment -— getting beat in the trenches on both sides of ball. It’s all breaking our way and we won’t be able to take advantage of it until our line play improves.

by hbtd on Oct 1, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Positives:

the D, all of it, in every way.
Figgins
Bennett
Mitchell

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 1, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And we are missing our two starting ILBs

Gilliard and Herrera have grown a ton in the past 3 weeks and when Robinson returns 100% and Olgetree returns, the coaches should feel comfortable giving the starters rest and keeping the group as a whole fresh and active.

by UGAVike on Oct 1, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a botched FG, not a fake.

At least, I’m fairly certain it was. The way the holder dropped it on the ground and all that makes me think we just flubbed on it.

That said, if you had told me we were guaranteed to win 24-10 before this game, I would have been happy with such an outcome. It’s just seeing how we got to the 24-10 (instead of say 35-3) which was so frustrating.

The 984 Has Spoken!

by The984 on Oct 1, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

It was 100% not a fake.

I was watching through my binoculars, and Drew Butler (the holder) clearly flubbed the snap and couldn’t get it set it time for Walsh.

by vineyarddawg on Oct 1, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hedged on it maybe being a fake designed to look like a flub

Then again, that’s something Les Miles would think up, not us.

The 984 Has Spoken!

by The984 on Oct 1, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a bad snap.

Butler had to pin the ball against the ground to catch it because it was low, and he couldn’t get it into position right away after that.

Hey…anybody else wonder why we didn’t review the Crowell run for a TD in the first quarter that was incorrectly ruled out of bounds—was that not a reviewable situation? And why in the world did the refs blow that? They were looking right at it.

by rbubp on Oct 1, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I made sure to replay that at the half

It looked to me that when he turned the corner, his heel barely went out of bounds. I think it was so absurdly close that the call on the field, whether out of bounds or TD, was going to stand no matter what.

The 984 Has Spoken!

by The984 on Oct 2, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whether or not the call was incorrect...

… the play was not reviewable because the referee had blown it dead at the point he thought Crowell stepped out of bounds.

I was watching the play through binoculars, and clearly saw the ref start waving his hands and calling the play dead, but the crowd noise was so loud that the guys on the field probably just didn’t hear the whistle.

I haven’t seen the replay yet, so I don’t know if he was in or not… but at any rate, once the whistle blows, the play is dead, so it’s not reviewable.

by vineyarddawg on Oct 2, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, vineyarddawg.

At some point a couple of years ago there was a policy of letting a play carry on if it was even remotely close on a fumble, int, or something like this. The Crowell play is exactly why they had that approach and I do not for the life of me understand why they changed it (they did, I’m sure, because I recall reacting by scratching my head at the time). You can always check the replay to see if a play ended earlier than it was called, but if you stop it too quick and you shouldn’t have, one team is screwed.

I watched it several times and from the angles I had on my computer screen I couldn’t see him going out of bounds. But they should have let the play continue all the way through and then reviewed whether he went out or not.

by rbubp on Oct 2, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Agreed, refs are screwing up on this

Similar thing happened int eh Bama-UF game on a fumble returned for a TD.

It’s especially annoying when one ref blows a whistle but the players and other refs still think the play is live.

by MDDawg on Oct 2, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I happy it was a win, but they're playing poor teams that don't capitalize on the

mistakes the offense is making. That luck is going to run out. I am happy about the defense. MSU left cleat marks on the defense running the ball last year. The defense is headed in the right direction.

by shadrach on Oct 1, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

i know you were there

So you might not have known, it was a bad snap not a fake fg.

by Mark Mandingo on Oct 1, 2011 9:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks.

It looked like a fake that went badly.

Either way, it was a blown call. Aaron Murray had just completely given himself up on the previous play for an eight-yard gain on third and nine. If you go for it, your best case scenario is a touchdown. Barring something truly fluky, your worst-case scenario is turning it over on downs inside the five when your defense is playing lights out. Anything other than sending the offense back out onto the field was a bad call, and the crowd signaled its displeasure with a chorus of boos.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 1, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given that it's the D which has to take over if we don't make it

I kinda want Grantham to be in charge of a situation like that. Let the defensive coach decide whether he wants to be put in the situation of defending just in case it goes wrong. On their 5 or whatever, I’m sure he would take it every time in a situation like what we faced.

The 984 Has Spoken!

by The984 on Oct 1, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I agree

But a fake would’ve been stupid, so it makes it more tolerable to me that we just screwed up the fg than ran a dumb fake instead of going for it. Its a matter of degrees of bad decision making.

by Mark Mandingo on Oct 1, 2011 10:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know I was

unhappy, and all the other students around me were too. If nothing else had worked we do happen to have this 270 lb. fullback that could probably have hammered through for the half yard we needed. Conservative in that situation would have been a QB sneak. The FG was just a bad idea.

UGA Class of 2013

by monty_python on Oct 1, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Is my only complaint.

But this is classic Richt.

"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.

by Jman781 on Oct 1, 2011 10:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Right,

Frix bounced the ball on the turf in a tough spot for Butler to cleanly field it. Frix had another low snap, too.

by shadrach on Oct 1, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the clarification, The984, vineyarddawg, Mark Mandingo, and shadrach.

At least it was better than the consistently high snaps by Mississippi State, though! :)

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 1, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can hear Richt now defending the field goal try that they should have gotten

the necessary yards on third down. As much as I admire his character, I find myself believing he is a guy that doesn’t use tactics that play to winning. Instead, he’s finding the conservative call to protect a lead, not to add to it. I understand it’s a safe play in many cases, but the game is changing and offenses can quickly put points on the board passing. What appears to be a big lead can be a mirage with a turnover or two and a blown coverage. Leads aren’t safe with the proliferation of passing.

I’d like to see Richt “go nuclear” on some teams.

by shadrach on Oct 1, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That field goal would have put the score at 24-3, correct?

I think making the game a 3 TD game is the right call there.

by UGAVike on Oct 1, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

After so many 4th & shorts have swung momentum badly for the Dawgs

I’m less inclined to criticize an attempt to get the points on the board, especially considering the overall strategy. While I absolutely think the call should have been to go for it, I don’t think it becomes this big of a deal if they actually got the 3.

by Cousin Pat from Georgia on Oct 1, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I have to side

with UGAVike and Cousin Pat from Georgia on this one. If you get the 3, you’re up by 3 TDs, that’s sound strategy IMO. I think Richt’s “get it in 3 downs” line is meant as a challenge to his offensive players.

However, I will condede that Murray’s effort on the previous play definitely qualifies as “stepping up” in my book, and I wouldn’t have been at all displeased if we had gone for it on 4th.

by MDDawg on Oct 2, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's clearly a challenge to his offensive players.

It’s just as clearly not working. We’ve heard him say that since at least 2005, when we won, 23-10, in Starkville, but had to settle for several field goals.

I’m not saying go for it on every fourth down, but, in situations like that one, I think you go for it on general principle.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with going for it in that situation

but, to say his general answer is not working seems impossible to prove. I mean, how would we prove it?

by Xon on Oct 2, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 pts against the worst team in the SEC in the second half. 3 pts in 2nd half against a team we dominated today.

Our D once again slides to the top D in the SEC, while our O continues to throw them under the bus.

We cant make up our mind if we are play action or not. In the second half we weren’t play action until Bobo noticed we maybe needed a first down, which made it wacky and resulted in a pick 6.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 1, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Well maybe he like the routes being displayed on the play selection screen

But the only way to get them was to do the PA. I know that has happened to me a few times in NCAA.

The 984 Has Spoken!

by The984 on Oct 1, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

With our D, only Florida and Tech pose legit threats the rest of the way

maybe Auburn, and Florida only if Driskell grows up or Brantley is healthy.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 1, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want another

shot at Boise State and USCar. but maybe this time we can leave the turnovers for touchdowns out of it. I truly think the team would took the field today would have left with victories over those teams.

UGA Class of 2013

by monty_python on Oct 1, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

The defense seems to

have figured out how to stop plays over the middle, and the Offense (at least in the first halves) has been clicking rather nicely. Still, I can see you point. At the very least it would have been much closer than it was.

UGA Class of 2013

by monty_python on Oct 1, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You KIND OF can look at in a vaccuum

not in that it is acceptable to suck so badly in the second half, but in the sense that when you build up that lead the second half doesn’t matter as much. In our two losses this year, when we needed to score in the second half, we did on both occasions. In our wins, we went way conservative in the second half. Not saying I agree with it, or that we still couldn’t have played better even with being more conservative. But, our team is good enough to build up a big first half lead and then stifle them on D so that what we do in the second half hardly even matters. Compared to how we played against Miss St last year, I’m pretty pumped.

But I would like to completely drop the hammer on someone, too. I’m right there with everyone else in longing for that to finally happen.

by Xon on Oct 2, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 pts in the second half isnt playing conservative. It's playing bad or calling bad.

Running horribly called plays and then recognizing the need to get a first down and going back to play action does not work. Bobo wasnt calling conservative, he was calling mindlessly.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 2, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 1, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

We still make too many mistakes.

You have to remember how bad these last three teams are. We should have beaten SC, yeah, but we’re still way, way to sloppy to beat a really good team.

by rbubp on Oct 1, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, rbubp. I was beginning to think it was just me.

Anyone who doesn’t think Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Florida, Auburn, and Georgia Tech all represent daunting challenges for this team isn’t watching the same football team I am.

The only two safe wins left on the schedule are New Mexico State and Kentucky.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vandy?

I still don’t understand the love for them. They’ve done nothing to warrant any fear. We’ve done as much as them, if not more. Why fear them? Because they squeaked by UConn (a team that just lost to Western Michigan) and beat Ole Miss and Elon. Seriously, why the love for Vandy?

Mark my words: we’ll beat the tar out of them.

As for the other teams, I share your concern.

"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.

by Jman781 on Oct 2, 2011 10:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Let me clairify

Vandy is Vandy and has done nothing this season to change that fact. Their one big test this season resulted in an 18-point loss.

Beating Vandy, even on the road, will not be daunting and/or challenging.

If you disagree, why? What about Vandy scares you? Are they that much better than Ole Miss and MSU? Based on what evidence?

"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.

by Jman781 on Oct 2, 2011 10:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't want to make this bigger than it really is, but as you asked...

Vandy kinda hammered Ole Miss, so there’s that. They clearly have a stout defense and a ball-hawking secondary.

But the biggest thing to be concerned about for us in any game is that we cannot take anyone for granted. Don’t tell me you weren’t this dismissive of Colorado or Arizona State in ’09—I know I was. Still scratching my head over the Colorado loss.

As long as I keep seeing us give up easy points by not catching pick-6s, fumbling FG snaps, missing easy FGs, gaffing up fake punts, etc., no one is a gimme in my book.

by rbubp on Oct 2, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, rbubp.

Jman781, you ask upon what evidence I conclude that Vanderbilt is “that much better than Ole Miss.” The evidence upon which I would base that conclusion is the Mississippi-Vanderbilt game, in which the Commodores beat the Rebels worse than we did.

Vanderbilt historically has played even good Georgia teams tough, particularly in Nashville, and the Commies are especially adept at pulling in interceptions, which happens to be a major problem for Aaron Murray right now.

The Vandy love is based on the fact that they’re winning games, something they haven’t done for a while. Also, since we’re not slamming the door on anyone in Division I-A, why would I think we were going to slam the ’Dores?

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough...

But last week you ranked Vandy as the 5th best SEC squad, which implies you like Vandy for some other reason. Ignoring UGA, I’m baffled as to what they have done to warrant such lofty praise. I’m legitimately curious why beating UConn, Ole Miss, and Elon makes a perennial doormat suddenly frightening, over and above the “W”.

As evidenced by the Colorado and UCF games last season, UGA could lose to any team, but UGA could also beat anyone on our remaining schedule, too. When looking at probabilities, not possibilities, we should win against Kentucky, Vandy, and New Mexico State, we should be slight favorites to beat UT and Auburn, and we should have toss-ups against Florida and GT. Obviously, we could finish the seasons 5-7, but I doubt it.

We’ll simply have to disagree on the quality of the ‘Dores at this point, lest you and the other Dawg fans become annoyed with me. I’m not afraid of the ‘Dores, but you are both correct, we should be wary of ourselves! I guess we’ll find out soon enough.

"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.

by Jman781 on Oct 3, 2011 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

A good team will convert those mistakes to points. MSSU almost lost to La. Tech last week. They are not a good team.
Hope the O line steps up next week. Looked to me like Figgins was the only one opening any holes for the RB. Murray would look sharper with more time.
Defense has looked good agains three teams with sorry offenses, and bad against one team with a sorry offense. They’ve only played one good offense. I would still like to see them get more pressure on the QB’s. They are better than the last two seasons, but that is not much of a benchmark.
The most impressive thing to me are the DB’s. Basically the same guys as last year, playing much better than last year.
And I did enjoy watching Big John sling that guy to the ground.
I watch Clemson every week. Love what their new OC is doing with their new freshman talent. Sammy Watkins is the stuff, but so is Mitchell. They don’t have an RB who can touch Crowell and Dwight Allen is good, but not better than Charles and White. I’d take Murray over Boyd and their O line has no better talent than our. They don’t have fullback like Figgins. And yet they look good.
Just sayin’

by hbtd on Oct 2, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

MSState DID convert one of our TO's

directly into 7 points. It’s not like they let us off the hook on that score.

by Xon on Oct 2, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but hbtd's point is that we turned the ball over three times . . .

. . . and won by two touchdowns. Against a better team that turned all three giveaways into touchdowns, we’d have squandered a 21-3 halftime lead and found ourselves headed to overtime.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK

but turnovers don’t normally translate to the worst case scenario 7 points for the other team. They’re bad, but you don’t just figure ’em to be 7 points a pop.

by Xon on Oct 2, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be careful for what you wish.

We might be able to pull one off against the Cocks, but I don’t think another shot against Boise would necessarily produce different results.

by vineyarddawg on Oct 2, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Any word on Boykin?

looked banged up at the end there

"Uvarum, Uvarum Fit, Uvarum.... double Fit..."
- Augustus "Gus" McCrae

by Munson's_Marbles on Oct 1, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Good lord

that is not good … not good at all

"Uvarum, Uvarum Fit, Uvarum.... double Fit..."
- Augustus "Gus" McCrae

by Munson's_Marbles on Oct 1, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't need teeth to play football, son!

Seriously, though, in his postgame radio interview, Mark Richt said Boykin’s mouthpiece fell out on a play, after which time he got hit hard in the head, and it pushed his facemask into his mouth area. I thought he was using “knocked his teeth loose” as a metaphor, but if he was serious… dang.

by vineyarddawg on Oct 2, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

Not upset.

I’d rather win with D anyway. This game reminds me of an early Richt Era squad.

After the last few seasons, I chuckle at those complaining about 14 point SEC wins!

With Auburn beating South Carolina, we are back in this thing, and I feel we may have the D to do the job.

"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.

by Jman781 on Oct 1, 2011 10:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I am first in line on the UGA D band wagon and am loving e some Coach 3rd and Grantham but

I am just afraid we have not really played a good offense since the Broncos.

Wonder if we could handle that UF speed like Bama is doing.

"Uvarum, Uvarum Fit, Uvarum.... double Fit..."
- Augustus "Gus" McCrae

by Munson's_Marbles on Oct 1, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll see.

You’re right, but there’s something different about this squad.

I still blame the offense for the Boise debacle. Had we moved the ball at all, the D would have been better, in my opinion.

"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.

by Jman781 on Oct 1, 2011 10:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I totally agree

there is definitely something different about this D and you are most certainly right about the Boise debacle – that D kept us in that thing the whole game.

"Uvarum, Uvarum Fit, Uvarum.... double Fit..."
- Augustus "Gus" McCrae

by Munson's_Marbles on Oct 1, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were only bad

For a quarter or so, too.

When a D is on the field constantly, it’s eventually going to break, especially against good teams.

The best D, sometimes, is a ball-controlling offense.

"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.

by Jman781 on Oct 1, 2011 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I think if we had gotten Mitchell and Crowell involved earlier

that game could have been a little different. We probably would have still lost, but I think we could have really pushed them.

I know we played Crowell early in that game, but he split series with Samuel. He gets the majority of carries now.

by UGAVike on Oct 1, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Our gameplan against Boise was the biggest obstacle.

It’s not even about “ball control” so much. I think ball control is what we were trying to do. Safe, conservative plays to move the chains. And it didn’t work out. You have to show explosiveness. In the second half of the Boise game, we did. We opened it up more with our younger playmakers and we got points.

by Xon on Oct 2, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The UF-UGA match-up that I am most worried about

is their D-Line against our O-Line. I just hope we can give Crowell a couple of holes and Murray a little bit of time.

by UGAVike on Oct 1, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

My take?

This looked like a classic, Richt orchestrated game of ball, clock, and field position control. It reminded me of many of the games Georgia played between 2001 and 2005. Defense also starting to look like that. More than that, this team looks like it is improving week to week.

I don’t know how special teams can look so good everywhere but the field goal unit.

At least one (if not more) of Murray’s interceptions occurred because he has to put his back to the defense in a play action set. That is going to hurt this team very, very badly if it continues.

Carlton Thomas, outside the tackles. Amazing how that works. Meanwhile, Isaiah looked banged up as the second half rolled on. I like seeing him get the ball, but we’re going to need him all season.

by Cousin Pat from Georgia on Oct 1, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Crowell is gonna need that bye

I hope we can give Thomas and Samuel 30+ carries the next two games, letting Crowell get 35-40 and rest. Then spend the bye week running 10 miles every practice instead of contact drills.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 1, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's his problem?

Can he be that out of shape? It’s awful, for he’s so darn talented.

Who’s to blame for this or is this typical for true freshmen?

"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.

by Jman781 on Oct 1, 2011 10:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He probably never took the physical beating

that he is now while in high school. I imagine it takes some time getting used to.

by UGAVike on Oct 1, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep,...

and max effort every carry is also something he didn’;t have to do in high school, it’s an adjustment, he needs to work harder.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 1, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

We seem to be

On the same wavelength.

Most wouldn’t complain about UGA’s return to the 2001-2005 success; however, those squads rarely blew away opponents. Why should I expect more out of this team?

"Don't go ninja'n nobody that don't need ninja'n!" ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly.

by Jman781 on Oct 1, 2011 10:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I saw that too

After the last 3 years, I’m ready for some game control strategy.

by Cousin Pat from Georgia on Oct 1, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we can get our run blocking just a little bit better

and turn those 2nd half 2-yard runs into 4 yard runs, I think we will be there.

by UGAVike on Oct 1, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

The “classic” Richt usually saw Georgia wear down the opponent in the second half. It is always easier to protect a lead if you can keep extending it.

by Cousin Pat from Georgia on Oct 1, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but you made a comment about play action. It was our lack to stay with it that is the problem on the O.

Along with the fact AM is not as comfortable with being in the spread. You can not run a “sometimes” play action.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 1, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait

Not every pass play out of the I-formation needs to be play-action, does it?

by Cousin Pat from Georgia on Oct 1, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Play action is or play action isnt.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 1, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Who is behind Driskel?

because that might be a real possibility to look at before this game is over

"Uvarum, Uvarum Fit, Uvarum.... double Fit..."
- Augustus "Gus" McCrae

by Munson's_Marbles on Oct 1, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

They play LSU too before us

We might see neither Driskell nor Brantley

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by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 1, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good lord Driskel is about to get killed

he does not understand that this is not high school

"Uvarum, Uvarum Fit, Uvarum.... double Fit..."
- Augustus "Gus" McCrae

by Munson's_Marbles on Oct 1, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry but I am tired of

GIVE ME

I HATE ORANGE and GREEN notebooks

by Dawg2011 on Oct 1, 2011 11:01 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Exactly.

I was at the game with ProfDawg, and we were talking at halftime about the need to tell Mike Bobo that the game is always 7-7.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

No hold on ... we might just yet.

There is this game in Atlanta we are trying to get to.

"Uvarum, Uvarum Fit, Uvarum.... double Fit..."
- Augustus "Gus" McCrae

by Munson's_Marbles on Oct 1, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am all for us getting to Atlanta

but you can go ahead and bank we will get destroyed.

"The ball ain't heavy." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Oct 1, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is fine

I would rather get there and get killed than not get there

"Uvarum, Uvarum Fit, Uvarum.... double Fit..."
- Augustus "Gus" McCrae

by Munson's_Marbles on Oct 1, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not so sure about that.

If we finish tied with Florida or South Carolina, but lose the tiebreaker due to the head-to-head result, then the East representative gets obliterated in the Dome, we might actually get a better bowl bid than the East champion.

In any case, though, even having this conversation is crazy as a run-over dog. Anyone who isn’t scared to death of next week . . . and the week after that . . . and two weeks after that hasn’t been paying attention.

Get through those three unscathed, then we can talk about winning the East. Until and unless that happens, we’re just a team that has gotten above .500 by beating Coastal Carolina, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State. Let’s not start booking hotel rooms in Atlanta just yet.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Outback Bowls vs. Peach Bowls vs. Liberty Bowls...

is irrelevant to me. I’d much rather have a chance (however slight) to actually win the SEC than to not take the risk and get a better exhibition game at the end of the year. I’d say the same even if we were guaranteed a Sugar Bowl berth by not playing Bama/LSU.

by FisheriesDawg on Oct 2, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta agree with FisheriesDawg.

I harbor no illusions that we have any significant chance of beating Alabama or LSU if we get lucky and win the SEC East. Still, though… if you’re in the game, anything can happen. If you’re not in the game, you’ll never win.

Plus, if several teams in the East end up with 2 or 3 conference losses and Georgia isn’t the Eastern Division representative in the Dome, you know that’ll cause the Richt haters to say, “The whole damn Eastern Division sucked and he still couldn’t get the Dawgs to the Dome!” (Never mind that any Eastern team who makes it to the Dome is going to get destroyed… that’s irrelevant, because it doesn’t suit their point.)

by vineyarddawg on Oct 2, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but those same folks will use that annihilation to prove their point, too.

This is a young team with a fragile psyche. Would you rather the idea they carry into the offseason be, “We came this close to winning the East; let’s redouble our efforts and get to the Dome in 2012” or, “We were on the upswing, and we got skunked”? Given the carryover from last year’s Liberty Bowl to this year’s Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game, I know which option I prefer.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

meh

You play to win championships not to go to the outback bowl. And with a good defense, you never know what might happen. Both the tide and LSU seem to start out slow on offense, so there’s a chance. But, until proven otherwise, I like our chances better in the ATL against either one vs. our chances in Jax. Until proven otherwise. Until proven otherwise. Until proven otherwise.

by Mark Mandingo on Oct 2, 2011 8:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fair enough.

At the end of the day, though, we’re 2-1 in SEC play, with wins over two of the worst teams in the league. With Tennessee, Florida, and Auburn still on the slate, even thinking about Atlanta is extraordinarily premature. The idea that we should even be considering winning the East until and unless we come back from Jacksonville with the same number of losses we now have is out there, to put it delicately.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly think it would be better to go to the SEC Championship Game.

We might get smacked, but you know what? We would still be the SEC Eastern Division champions.

(I mean, it doesn’t really matter, because it’s not likely to happen anyway… but I’m just saying hypothetically.)

I don’t think a fragile psyche is a major issue, and I’m not so sure that the Liberty Bowl did carry over to the game against Boise State. We just got beat by a better team against Boise. Our defense played well until Kellen Moore picked them apart, but they still played well against the run and never game up the big overhead home run like they seemingly endlessly did last year.

And the offense… well, our offense has just been inconsistent all year thus far, not just in the first game. The brightest spot thus far is our freshman phenom RB, and it’s unreasonable to expect a freshman to play a key role in his first college game against a legit top-10 team. (Well, unless his name is “Herschel Walker,” but unfortunately ours isn’t.)

Even if we get stomped, give me the Dome. It’ll give us a chance to see what championship-quality football is all about.

by vineyarddawg on Oct 2, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree..

….with this:

“(I mean, it doesn’t really matter, because it’s not likely to happen anyway… but I’m just saying hypothetically.)”

I think UGA is the favorite in the EAST. At this point trying to figure out who is the best team is a rather impossible exercise, but I think UGA has the best chance of winning the East because of the way the schedule plays out.

Tennessee’s schedule is brutal. I think we end up with 4 sec losses. This would leave us at 8-4, which isn’t a terrible year all things considered, but it isn’t winning the East.

Florida also has a tough schedule. Assume for the sake of argument they lose to yall in the cocktail party and get destroyed by LSU (which isn’t much of an assumption). They would have 3 SEC losses and y’all would have the tiebreaker over them if it came to that.

South Carolina just lost to an Auburn is scrappy but ultimately mediocre. One thing we’ve seen before with South Carolina in recent years is that when things start to go bad, they will absolutely unravel into a shell of what they were pre-unraveling. South Carolina will beat Kentucky in their next game simply because Kentucky is one of the worst football teams in the country, and then they will lose their next four games. Or at the very least, three of their next four. That’s four SEC losses. Just like Tennessee.

Y’all are gonna beat Vandy. Y’all are gonna beat Kentucky. And y’all are gonna beat Auburn.

All you have to do is win against either Florida or Tennessee and the East is yours.

And I wish you the best of luck against Florida :)

No homer.

by kidbourbon on Oct 3, 2011 2:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You are, of course, entailed to your opinion, kidbourbon.

Me, I choose to wait until UGA has won a close game against a good team before I start making grandiose predictions!

by vineyarddawg on Oct 3, 2011 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely!

Success is never final. --Winston Churchill

by Inteljumper on Oct 3, 2011 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL!

imma rec that…

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Oct 3, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

It is never safe to assume wins over Tennessee, Florida, or Auburn, much less all three.

Right now, what we’ve won is the Mississippi state championship, and what we’re in contention for is going 1-0 on October 8. Accomplish that, and we’re going for the Tennessee state championship a week later.

If ever there was a team that had to “take ’em one game at a time,” this team is it.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 3, 2011 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take getting skunked.

Remember what the feel-good systematic destruction of Hawaii in a bowl game got us in the 2008 season? We play for this season. You can’t play what-ifs worrying about the next one. I wouldn’t like our chances against either team, but I remember Kansas State beating Oklahoma in 2003…who would have expected that one?

Besides, whoever hypothetically beats us in the Dome is probably the 2011 national champion. I’d be much less embarrassed to get thumped by them than I was when we got thumped by Boise freakin’ State in the same stadium.

by FisheriesDawg on Oct 2, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, the Big 12 Championship Game produced an upset . . .

. . . at least once every other year, so, no, it really wasn’t that much of a surprise.

I see your point, though. I just think the 2005 SEC Championship Game would’ve been the better analogy.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy pick

You have to want to go to the SEC champ game, because none of us know how it would turn out. I’ll always want to be in Atlanta when every other team from our division is at home watching us.

by TexasDawg86 on Oct 2, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I got no dillusions of grandeur here...

… I was just responding to the “Thank God we don’t play Bama this year LSU either.” comment above. I personally think that we are going to have all we can handle and maybe even some serious heartache if we do not get this offensive schizophrenia sorted out. Not even close to thinking about playing in the dome. I was just thinking that we better play like we are trying to get there. We better play like we are still trying to win a national championship.

That is all.

"Uvarum, Uvarum Fit, Uvarum.... double Fit..."
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by Munson's_Marbles on Oct 2, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think I am gonna cry

Verne is so upset about UF losing Brantley. BOO HOO

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more-

by Lakepoets on Oct 1, 2011 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

It looks as if the implosion is pending...

and these guys still have LSU, AU and….UGA left in October. Looks like Jabba will be working with a true freshman at QB also-can you smell it?

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more-

by Lakepoets on Oct 1, 2011 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

That's all well and good...

But I don’t like how the TV announcers on this game and the USC game have been talking about how great this night is for Georgia. It seems like major Jinxtification.

by mbrd71 on Oct 1, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually it sounded kinda sarcastic to me...

Gary Danielson’s comment that “UGA is in the drivers seat, but you can crash!, ha ha ha” tells me they do not believe we stand a snowballs chance in hell.

by dgreene on Oct 2, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was just responding to Lundquist's rather appropriately puzzled reaction--how would we be

in the driver’s seat right now when SC owns the head-to-head? Not to mention the history…that was not a reasoned statement by Danielson.

And T. Kyle is right. SEC titles of any kind, even the partial kind, are crazy talk at this point. Let’s just beat Tennessee and then see where we are.

by rbubp on Oct 2, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Alabama is a very good football team.

by UGAVike on Oct 1, 2011 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

I thought I was impressed with our D today until I saw Alabama. I don’t know if I am perceiving them different because they are so prepared and play so well and disciplined – but do you see the physique of those guys? Every player looks like a billy bad ass. I don’t recall thinking that when I see one of our games. They just look so strong.

by jumping_jack_flash on Oct 2, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

They are very very....

physical in the secondary. I’m not sure how much better their lineman are than ours, but their secondary tackles very well.

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by The Quincy Carter of Accountants on Oct 2, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know why everyone is feeling so good about the Tennessee game.

A night game in Knoxville against a rested Volunteer team that appears to be every bit Georgia’s equal, after our last two trips to Knoxville to meet what appeared to be evenly-matched Tennessee teams ended in absolute disaster? What about this spells “certain success” to everyone? Seriously, I’m not getting why any Georgia fan is even remotely confident about next Saturday.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was reading over y'all's thread here

and starting to wonder whether I was a delusional homer for thinking Tennessee has more of a chance than Kentucky and Vandy.

Really, neither team should be that confident. Maybe us a little more so, because our expectations are lower, so it takes less to meet them. Although, that said, if recent history is any indication, it’s going to be a blowout, one way or the other.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Oct 2, 2011 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I am in 100 per cent agreement, Incipient_Senescence.

In fact, I’m planning to say as much on this evening’s Rocky Top Talk podcast!

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am glad y'all beat the Magnolia State though

I feel better not facing “I’m Coaching for my Job” Richt. Not after I saw “I’m Coaching for my Job” Fulmer in ’07, and the revenge last year.

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Oct 2, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

The results of two and four years ago have no bearing on the game.

And I don’t think Tennessee appears every bit Georgia’s equal. They’ve beaten three bad teams and were dominated by a Florida team that obviously isn’t THAT good. Georgia might lose because of turnovers and mistakes, but it won’t be anything resembling the beatdowns of 2007 and 2009.

by Biggus Rickus on Oct 2, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quality of opponents beaten.....

I’m not sure we want to go there at this point :-)

But I agree with you that it will not be a beat down, I think the secondary is playing quite a bit better than in those years.

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by The Quincy Carter of Accountants on Oct 2, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I could do with an 06-style beatdown instead :-p

but seriously, Georgia’s 2007 was loads better than the 2011 team. So good UGA teams can be destroyed in Neyland. And honestly, last year’s teams weren’t nearly as far apart as the game they played in October, but bad UGA teams can destroy Tennessee. It just seems to be a series where there are two evenly matched teams, one makes some big plays, and the other just folds. Been like that for much of the last six years. So when people say there’s beatdown possibility, they’re not necessarily disrespecting either team.

Now regarding schedule, it remains to be seen how good Cincy is. I know NC State is bad, but I thought that beatdown was fairly impressive. They obviously aren’t USC or Boise, but are they Mississippi State? Possibly. And that game against Florida. . . you try having your best offensive weapon injured on the first series on the road against a ranked team and see how the game goes. Tennessee has now had three weeks to figure out how to work life after Hunter, but it still hasn’t been tested. The Florida game should be a lower limit, but there’s a lot still up in the air.

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Oct 2, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said, Incipient.

Sometimes very evenly-matched teams still play out as a blowout. I don’t think the 09 UT team was loads better than Georgia, nor was the 07 UT team loads better than Georgia. Similarly, I agree with you that we weren’t nearly as superior to UT last year as that single game might have indicated.

The one wrinkle is (hopefully) our D. This time around, I think we might actually have a D. As such, I don’t think we will fold. We may be in for a nailbiter, as in 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2004.

by Xon on Oct 2, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with the King on this one

I haven’t watched any of the Vols’ games this year, but I don’t think we’ll just coast through this game. Tennessee may have lost their most potent offensive weapon, but they’ll have had 2 weeks to address that issue by the time they play us.

 Also, in the past 2 games our offense has gotten off to a decent start in the 1st half, only to struggle in the 2nd half. I think a night game in Neyland stadium might make our offense less effective in the early going, and so far our O hasn’t shown that they can get it done in the latter part of the game.

by MDDawg on Oct 2, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't worry

our defense has shown an ability to give up a touchdown on the first drive. It’s happened in the last four games against BCS conference opposition (Kentucky, North Carolina, Cincy, Florida). Fortunately, they also tightened up later in those games.

Heel for school, Vol for life!

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by Incipient_Senescence on Oct 2, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am all for UGA getting to Atlanta, and I've enjoyed the heck out of the last two games.

We may be a bit gun shy after the start of the season, but if we beat Florida by only one point after a slew of questionable calls, would y’all please just celebrate the victory without any bellyaching? We beat Miss State like nobody else has, and this was a tremendous overall effort that I was thrilled to see. Receivers on, interceptions made, and bonerattling sacks completed. What’s that comin’ down the track? A mood to celebrate, my brethren!

by stretchdavis on Oct 2, 2011 7:53 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

If we beat Florida by only one point, I will celebrate the victory without any bellyaching.

Ole Miss and Mississippi State are not easily to be confused with the Gators, however.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Oct 2, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we beat Florida by one point on account of 7 bad personal foul penalties called by the referees...

… I will celebrate it as a win just as much as if the Dawgs won 75-0, as they did in 1942.

by vineyarddawg on Oct 2, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

not easily confused

Unless you are Alabama/LSU

by dgreene on Oct 2, 2011 8:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

HA!

That’s true/funny.

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by The Quincy Carter of Accountants on Oct 2, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

My analysis

Sorry about not doing it last week, but here they are:

+ Bacarri Rambo, Sanders Commings, and Boykin are really leading this defense. We’re getting to be very tough here, and that’s what we’ll need against Florida later on.

+ The running game is just getting better and better now. Crowell, Samuel, and Thomas are really picking up yards on every carry.

+ I truly found out the power of our offensive line. In Collegiate AND NFL, Georgia has the largest average weight of an offensive line at 329.4, which is a few pounds above the second place team, the Cincinnatti Bengals of the NFL. That is amazing.

+ John Jenkins is awesome. If he can do what he did today to #27, our D-Line will be hard to break through.

+ We’re really defending the pass well with Commings, Boykin, and Rambo. They can match up with almost any receiver.

- What’s with Walsh? He’s 6-12 this year in FG, although he kicked a career-high 56 yarder. He almost missed an extra point yesterday, and he’s just looked shaky all around.

- What’s with the holding? We need to work on blocking defenders without holding them. Some very good runs were wiped out because of the blocking problems.

- Murray looked a little shaky in this one. 2 TD, 3 INT, including a pick-six. He’s looking a little nervous in short passes down the middle. It may be a sophomore thing, but I hope it gets picked up.

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