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Auburn Tigers Win BCS National Championship; SEC East Has No Top 25 Teams: Final 2010 BlogPoll Ballot Explained

Last night, I posted the preliminary draft of my final 2010 BlogPoll ballot. As promised, here are a few words of explanation for my rankings, which, as always, are based on each team’s actual resume rather than my thoroughly unreliable opinion of who would beat whom on a neutral field next Saturday:

  • For the benefit of those contrarians determined to argue that TCU has a valid claim to the No. 1 ranking, Auburn is Division I-A college football’s national champion, and it isn’t close. Texas Christian defeated No. 15 Wisconsin, No. 25 Utah, and a pair of 9-4 clubs in Air Force and San Diego State, and that’s it; the Horned Frogs’ other two victims with winning records (Baylor and Brigham Young) both went 7-6, and four of the five teams with losing records bested by TCU suffered nine or more losses apiece. While the Frogs had an impressive season, it simply isn’t on the same plane plain as Auburn’s victories over No. 3 Oregon, No. 8 Louisiana State, No. 11 Alabama, No. 12 Arkansas, No. 23 Mississippi State, and a South Carolina squad that went 9-3 against everyone else except the Tigers. Although the Plainsmen beat six teams that finished below .500, three of those opponents (Clemson, Georgia, and Kentucky) went 6-7, falling just one win shy of a winning record. No Auburn victim lost more than eight games, in stark contrast to such Texas Christian schedule fodder as Colorado State (3-9), Wyoming (3-9), UNLV (2-11), and New Mexico (1-11). I take nothing away from the Horned Frogs---they earned the No. 2 ranking with their undefeated Rose Bowl run---but the Tigers compiled far and away the most impressive resume of achievement in the 2010 campaign. Anyone who says differently is casting a thinly-veiled protest vote against the BCS or is an unabashed Auburn hater, and, as an unabashed Auburn hater myself, I have no patience for voters who allow such extraneous considerations to influence their ballots, which are supposed to be cast conscientiously without passion or prejudice. (I hate Auburn.)
  • I thought seriously about dropping the Ducks behind the Buckeyes, in light of the fact that Oregon beat only four teams with winning records, two of whom (Arizona and Washington) went 7-6, but I gave Chip Kelly’s club the benefit of the doubt based on the fact that the Pac-10 plays an extra regular-season conference game and the Ducks played the Plainsmen exceedingly close. Nevertheless, I left Ohio State out in front of Stanford, since Jim Tressel’s team got to 12-1 without facing a Division I-AA opponent, had a better "best" win (No. 12 Arkansas, as opposed to the Cardinal’s No. 16 Virginia Tech), defeated seven teams that finished over .500 (Jim Harbaugh’s squad beat five), and, yes, negotiated a tougher non-conference slate. It’s a fact!
  • Despite posting the same 12-1 record and facing an identical number of teams that finished with winning seasons, Boise State checked in behind Stanford because the Cardinal beat their two common opponents (Oregon State and Virginia Tech) by a larger margin (78-12) than did the Broncos (70-54). Boise State finished well in front of Nevada, despite the head-to-head result, because the Broncos triumphed over three ranked teams (Virginia Tech, Hawaii, and Utah), while the Wolf Pack bested only BSU. Nevada’s other dozen victims included Division I-AA Eastern Washington, three Division I-A teams that ended the autumn above .500 (two of whom went 7-6), and eight Division I-A teams that concluded the campaign with losing records (four of whom lost nine or more games).
  • The Sooners led among twice-beaten teams because their two losses both came on the road to teams that won nine or more games, and because Oklahoma’s seven victories over teams that finished over .500 included wins against No. 9 Oklahoma State, No. 18 Nebraska, No. 19 Florida State, and Air Force. Coupled with a conference championship, that gave Bob Stoops’s troops a narrow edge over Les Miles’s crew, which defeated No. 11 Alabama, No. 17 Texas A&M, No. 21 West Virginia, and No. 23 Mississippi State while falling twice on the road by eight or fewer points to a pair of clubs that each amassed a double-digit win tally. Admittedly, though, this was a close call---as were both teams’ seasons; six of LSU’s wins and six of Oklahoma’s wins were by eight or fewer points---and I could be convinced to switch the two.
  • The Cowboys matched the Bayou Bengals’ record, but not the quality of their victories, as Oklahoma State’s best win was over No. 17 Texas A&M, but the Pokes’ two setbacks were respectable, even if they came at home. Likewise, the Tigers’ 10-3 campaign was slightly more impressive than the Tide’s, since Missouri bested the seventh-ranked Sooners and the 17th-ranked Aggies, as well as San Diego State and Miami (Ohio), while Alabama’s best triumphs came against the 12th-ranked Razorbacks, the 14th-ranked Spartans, and the 23rd-ranked Bulldogs. The Hogs also finished 10-3 and lost to ‘Bama head-to-head, but Arkansas was buoyed by wins over Louisiana State, Texas A&M, and Mississippi State.
  • Michigan State’s 11-2 record would have earned the Spartans a ranking higher than 14th if their two losses hadn’t been by a combined 86-13 margin, but their win over Wisconsin landed Sparty in front of the Badgers. Bret Bielema’s outfit won eleven games and lost two by a total of twelve points, but only four of Wiscy’s victims finished above .500, and two of those went 7-6. Fortunately for the Badgers, one of the others was No. 4 Ohio State.
  • The Hokies benefited from wins over No. 19 Florida State and No. 20 N.C. State, plus a quality loss to No. 6 Boise State, but VPI was dragged down by its blowout loss in the Orange Bowl and its narrow loss to a Division I-AA opponent.
  • Texas A&M finished ahead of any other four-loss team because the Aggies’ quartet of setbacks were sustained at the hands of teams who all finished with double-digit win totals. Texas A&M’s five victories over teams with winning records included triumphs over Big 12 division champions Nebraska and Oklahoma, which landed the Cornhuskers (who also lost four games, including one at home to a 5-7 Texas team the Aggies beat on the road) behind Texas A&M. Wins over the ninth-ranked Cowboys and the tenth-ranked Tigers, however, put Nebraska ahead of a Seminole squad with an identical 10-4 ledger but no win over an opponent better than the 22nd-ranked Terrapins.
  • N.C. State beat Florida State in North Carolina, but the Wolfpack also lost on the road to Clemson and East Carolina, each of whom finished 6-7. A convincing win in the Champs Sports Bowl landed N.C. State ahead of a West Virginia squad with the same 9-4 record. The Mountaineers’ head-to-head win over Maryland likewise put them in front of the Terps, who also finished 9-4.
  • As solid a season as Mississippi State had, the Bulldogs beat only two teams that ended the season with winning records, the best of which was Urban Meyer’s worst Florida team.
  • After that, the pickings got pretty slim. Hawaii’s win over No. 13 Nevada got the Warriors into the poll, even though their ten victories included as many triumphs over opponents that lost at least ten games as over clubs that won at least seven games. The Utes grabbed the last spot in the top 25 with a ten-win season that included victories over the Aztecs and the Falcons, but Utah was stranded in the lower reaches of the poll by virtue of three losses by a cumulative 101-13 margin.
  • Among the teams I considered but did not include were, in order of their finish, Tulsa (which won ten games and beat Hawaii but lost close games to seven-loss East Carolina and Southern Methodist), San Diego State (which went 9-4 and lost four close games but beat six teams that all lost eight or more outings), Air Force (which beat Navy and lost to four good teams but beat four opponents who all lost at least nine contests), Navy (which went 9-4 and lost to three teams who also went 9-4, but also lost to three-win Duke and claimed its best win over Notre Dame), Northern Illinois (which won eleven games against a schedule that included no wins over teams with more than eight victories but six wins over teams with eight or more losses), Miami (Ohio) (six of whose ten wins came against opponents with at least nine setbacks apiece), and Central Florida (which went 11-3 but beat no teams with winning records). I did not consider ranking any teams with more than four losses.

Except where work or family obligations took precedence, I watched almost all of the college football postseason, including every bowl of any significance, although our trip to Memphis caused me to miss some of the Division I-A action that week and on the morning of January 1. As always, your comments, questions, and constructive criticisms are solicited.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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On behalf

of the Auburn family, I humbly accept the Dawg Sports national title crown and will exit stage left quickly before the tomatoes and snowballs start flying.

Perhaps we Georgians can unite behind a good Atlanta Falcons team and see them to the Super Bowl, which if they were to win, would result in football nirvana for myself.

Auburn Tigers: The 2011 BCS National Champions!

by War Eagle Atlanta on Jan 11, 2011 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

Fear not; this isn't like Chick Hicks winning the Piston Cup at the end of "Cars."

Congratulations on the win. As far as the NFL is concerned, we’ve got the best of both worlds: Atlanta and Seattle both can win next weekend, prolonging both the good feelings of football fans in the City Too Busy to Hate and the arrival in Gainesville of a Will Muschamp assistant (hopefully harming the Gators’ recruiting).

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jan 11, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Just curious, but why the arbitrary cut off of four losses?

I think South Carolina’s 9-5 is better than the 9-4’s in your poll, and a few of the other teams at the bottom.

"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard

by GwinnettGamecock on Jan 11, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't characterize that cut-off as "arbitrary."

Five losses are a lot of losses; Georgia lost five games in 2009, and the Bulldogs stunk. Also, there’s a practical aspect to it, as well; you can’t very well look at one five-loss team without looking at all of them (or, at least, all of them from major conferences).

However, there are extenuating circumstances, and the fact that the Gamecocks represented the Eastern Division in the SEC Championship Game certainly mitigates in their favor. As always, I am prepared to be convinced. State a case for South Carolina, and I’ll hear you out; if you persuade me, I’ll adjust my ballot accordingly before the final deadline.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jan 11, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about GwinnettGamecock,

but I just don’t have the energy to state a case for USC’s inclusion in the top 25. In our last two game we got blown out by Auburn and played like hell against FSU. While I do think that our 9-5 season is just as good as most 9-4s out there (who didn’t have to play the eventual National Champions twice), inclusion in the top 25 is a hollow victory at best.

Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina

by The Feathered Warrior on Jan 11, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you've got to put USC in there...

since they defeated the #1 team in the country, at the time, in Alabama. At that time, most everybody was thinking that ’Bama had a very good chance as repeating as national champs. That combined with being a division champion would put them somewhere in the last few slots in my opinion.

How 'Bout Them Dawgs!

by Marshmanslim on Jan 11, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, for fun then:

South Carolina has a true marquee victory (Alabama) that none of the 9-4 teams (WVa, Mississippi State, Maryland, NC State) possess.

South Carolina’s remaining wins include a lot of decent but not great conquests. However, even without Alabama, that list still includes a collection of wins comparable or better than the wins of the 9-4 teams you rank.

Excluding non-bowl teams, South Carolina’s remaining wins are: at Florida (36-14), at Clemson, vs. Southern Miss, vs. Troy, vs. UT, vs. UGa (17-6)
Worst loss: 31-28 at Kentucky

Mississippi State: at Florida (10-7), Michigan, vs. Georgia (24-12), vs. Kentucky
Worst Loss: 30-10 at Alabama

NC State: FSU, at UNC, at UCF, WVa, BC
Worst Loss: 33-27 at East Carolina

West Virginia: at Pitt, vs. Maryland, vs. South Florida (for context, SF to the Gators 38-14), at Louisville
Worst Loss: 19-14 vs. Syracuse

Maryland: at BC, NC State, Navy, East Carolina
Worst loss: 31-7 at Clemson

Both of the ACC teams lost to Clemson, a team South Carolina defeated handily on the road.

If one is into mitigating factors, there is overwhelming evidence that South Carolina would have continued to run away from Kentucky had not both Marcus Lattimore and Alshon Jeffery missed most of the second half with injuries. There is also some evidence (50 yards from scrimmage in 5 snaps, 140 total yards from the demonstrably less talented backups) that South Carolina would have defeated Florida State had Lattimore not been lost to a concussion.

Perhaps most significant is that South Carolina’s fifth loss is a result of playing Auburn a second time. There is no reason to suspect any of the 9-4 teams would not be 9-5 if given a 14th game on vs. Auburn on a neutral field, while there is ample reason to believe they may be incapable of going 5-3 vs. our SEC schedule in the first place. As such, one is basically punishing South Carolina for being the best of a down SEC-E.

It is a hollow victory, but I believe South Carolina’s body of work is superior to the resumes of all the 9-4 teams on your ballot, and the that the recency effect of our final games clouds the memories of the entire season.

"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard

by GwinnettGamecock on Jan 11, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The fact that they are 9-5

and had to do something that not ONE other team had to do to achieve their records, is good enough for me. Not one other team had to face the same team twice when that other team went on to win the MNC. On top of that, playing in the SEC is still a tougher row to hoe than playing in any other conference, although the Big 10 or whatever they are now is a close second depending on the schedule.

by EricBDawg on Jan 11, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

All right, you convinced me.

The quality win over Alabama was what put the Gamecocks over the top, along with the facts that (a) Georgia experienced something similar in 2003 (when the Bulldogs faced eventual national champion LSU twice), and (b) I gave Nebraska consideration under similar circumstances four years ago. My revised ballot is posted as a fanpost here.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jan 11, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's my argument:

South Carolina sucks. How do we know they suck? Because they’re South Carolina.

(Sorry, they used up all the goodwill I had for them when they let Vanderbilt’s players suit up in their uniforms in the SEC Championship Game.)

by vineyarddawg on Jan 11, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought you heard?

We had transportation issues getting to Atlanta, so we asked the closest SEC East team to fill in. Unfortunately for us, that was 2010 Georgia.

It’s a little too early to start working on my enmity for next year. You actually made me laugh, but the same comment eight months from now will have me seeing red.

"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard

by GwinnettGamecock on Jan 11, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Touche.

We’re all about to experience the college football withdrawal pains… we’ll all be a little more jittery 8 months from now. :-)

by vineyarddawg on Jan 11, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

I’m taking heavy doses of college footbal methadone right now. I need the break. It’s been a shit-tay year.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jan 11, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah

that’s like drinkin mouthwash…

Auburn Tigers: The 2011 BCS National Champions!

by War Eagle Atlanta on Jan 11, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

As an LSU fan and BlogPoll voter...

… I’ll have Oklahoma ahead of LSU. The tiebreaker for me is that OU won their conference title, and those are things that matter to me. I obviously couldn’t be more biased in favor of LSU, but you made the right call.

Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!

by Poseur on Jan 11, 2011 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

UCF...

Did not beat a team with a winning record. Sigh. But they beat us. Double Sigh.

I am a fan of the Dawgs, Falcons, and Braves...oh...and tacos, but I like the other three more.

by Jman781 on Jan 11, 2011 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

Oh...

And Stanford > the tOSU. Why? Because as far as I know, they didn’t win their BCS Bowl with a bunch of cheaters…That’s enough to vault them over the overrated Buckeyes.

I am a fan of the Dawgs, Falcons, and Braves...oh...and tacos, but I like the other three more.

by Jman781 on Jan 11, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

There was more to this...

Stanford > THE Ohio State University. Why? Because as far as I know, Stanford didn’t win their BCS Bowl with a bunch of cheaters. That is only one of many reasons why I feel the Cardinal should be ranked ahead of the overrated Buckeyes.

I am a fan of the Dawgs, Falcons, and Braves...oh...and tacos, but I like the other three more.

by Jman781 on Jan 11, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm ranking them based on what happened on the field.

Whatever I may think of the eligibility decisions made with regard to players for Auburn and Ohio State, those decisions were made, and the games were played accordingly. I agree with you, Jman781, but that is not germane to my top 25.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jan 11, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

5 Top 18 SEC West teams So Car # 22, Florida # 31 final AP Poll

Former players saying Mark Richt is not getting the job done at not Top 7 SEC :

HERSCHEL WALKER

FRAN TARKENTON

By winning percentage during the BCS era in SEC games :

1.Urban Meyer 38-13 74.51
2.Nick Saban 56-20 73.68
3.Gene Chizik 12-05 70.59
4.Les Miles 34-16 68.00
5.Phillip Fulmer 62-30 67.39
6.Jim Donnan 16-08 66.67
7.Ron Zook 16-08 66.67
8.Mark Richt 55-28 66.27

Aaron Murray :

  1. 62 in nation at getting sacked
    1.9 yards per carry 87 carries
  2. 55 in nation in 3rd down conversions
  3. 56 in nation total offense
  4. 72 in nation 1st downs
    lost to 2 not Top 25 final AP teams
    lost to all 5 Top 25 final AP teams
    lost most games since lost 7 in 1957
    beat 6 teams ALL with LOSING RECORDS

by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 12, 2011 2:14 AM EST reply actions  

your sample size is HIGHLY lacking dude.

the data is not comparable – 17 games for Gene to 83 for CMR? are you kidding me? Urban Meyer had one of the greatest athletes and a great run and quit after his first down year? I would have liked Urban to stick around and help that stat again next year.

This post just smacks of making data look the way you want too. If anything – your data tells me Fulmer as a whole did much better than we think. Jim Donnan? He’s the guy that lost to all four rivals one year, and lost to 3 several other years.

Now, I am not going to get into it about Herschel or Fran out of respect – but last I checked neither of them were head coaches (or coaches) and Fran is still the master of losing the Superbowl. Opinions are like ……..Right? Since you are pulling data, why not get the guys that say CMR is going to be fine while you are at it? Oh, because those guys don’t get the attention and therefore don’t get published. You need to get a poll of EVERY SINGLE UGA FOOTBALL PRO PLAYER if you want to play that game.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jan 12, 2011 2:33 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Shack!

If you're gonna do it, go ugly early.

by Inteljumper on Jan 12, 2011 4:21 AM EST up reply actions  

sample size ?

Mark Richt has our football program # 23 in won / lost over the last five (5) years.

How many years does it take to figure out that Mark Richt is as Herschel Walker and Fran Tarkenton say ?

Oh, you know more ?

The sample size is fine.

3-9 vs Top 10 final AP Poll teams entire 10 years Mark Richt era

Those 3 wins ? 2001 over # 4 vols but lost 4 games 2001. 2005 over # 6 LSU but lost 3 games 2005. And, 5 years ago over # 9 Auburn but lost 4 games that year.

Quit with the cop-outs – per Fran Tarkenton.

by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 12, 2011 3:22 AM EST reply actions  

5 years is a LONG, LONG, LONG, LONG, LONG TIME - sample size

Mark Richt is 44-21 his last 5 years here.

Jim Donnan’s 40-19 all 5 years here.

.677 Jim Donnan Winning Percentage 5 years here
.676 Mark Richt Winning Percentage his last 5 years here

Both Fran Tarkenton and Herschel Walker say that Mark Richt’s recruits don’t stick. Marcus Dowtin is the latest example. Zach Mettenberger. Michael Lemon. Montez Robinson. Who in this Signing Class ? Who next ?

Jim Donnan’s recruits were better than Mark Richt’s.

All Mark Richt’s recruits do is to get arrested / suspended.

17 SUSPENSIONS 2010 alone.

Your post is an EXCUSE-LADEN cop-out.

Mark Richt has not been doing that well.

And, we are not relevant. If you want a poll of every pro player, those would be the Jim Donnan Recruits.

Hell, Ray Goff lost 21 games his last 5 years here.

Now, Mark Richt has matched that sorry record 21 losses his last 5 years and you want to whine that the sample size FIVE YEARS (5) is NOT LONG ENOUGH.

God Almighty son. How many years of irrelevance does it take ?

5 years is not long enough to compare with others over the SAME FIVE (5) YEARS finding Mark Richt # 23 in won / lost over the last five (5) years ?

You want head coaches who have said this ?

Jim Donnan. Nick Saban. Les Miles. Steve Spurrier. Urban Meyer.

The Majority of the Bulldogs’ fans AND the recruits in-state say Mark Richt is not getting the job done and that 2011 is his last year.

He has no fullback, no tailback, no OL, no DL, no secondary, cannot return kick-offs, cannot get pressure on opposing Quarterbacks, cannot stop the run, cannot stop any pass, gets nothing but sacks, has 12 arrests in last 9 months on criminal charges, has 17 SUSPENSIONS for 2010 alone, and has no one calling offensive plays.

Let me get this straight, you QUOTE Herschel Walker in your SIGNATURE to EVERY post, and then you say what Herschel Walker says is NOT RELEVANT tankertoad.

by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 12, 2011 3:55 AM EST reply actions  

Thomas Brown UGA -you know what one major difference between you and I is:

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jan 12, 2011 4:00 AM EST up reply actions  

TBU, I believe some perspective is in order!

5 years of irrelevance? Is that what I’m to infer from: “How many years of irrelevance does it take?” I will grant you 3 years, but 2007 we were far from irrelevant.

Something happened in 2008, and I said it here before: CMR started going light in practice due to the number of injuries he had going into the 2008 season. It wasn’t until mid-season this year that he started doing full pads on Mon/Tues practices again. This showed in our tackling, blocking, running, stamina, etc etc etc.

I see what your saying, but CMR is a KNOWN product, and he gets one more year, from me, before I’m willing to throw him off the train.

If you're gonna do it, go ugly early.

by Inteljumper on Jan 12, 2011 4:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, another point:

I thought firing Jim Donnan was a bit premature, as well, at the time. And I think a helluva lot more of Richt, now, than I did Donnan, then.

If you're gonna do it, go ugly early.

by Inteljumper on Jan 12, 2011 4:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Thomas Brown UGA, these comments would work better as a fanpost, as . . .

. . . they are not relevant to the posting to which they were attached.

As I hope is clear, MaconDawg and I welcome and encourage the expression of divergent viewpoints, but we expect a degree of civility and intelligibility, and, frankly, your comments often lead me to wonder whether you’re BuLLdaWg with a different screen name.

Mark Richt is going to be the Bulldogs’ head coach in 2011. Next year clearly is a make-or-break year for the program. It will be clear to everyone by the first weekend of December whether Coach Richt has succeeded in turning around the team. If not, we will have a new head coach by this time next year.

In the meantime, since Greg McGarity has made his decision to stick with Coach Richt for another year, how about supporting the team? Folks would find your perspective much more palatable if you weren’t one of those fans who only shows up when things are going badly. If you’re determined to be negative about absolutely everything, please try one of the many message boards that cater to constant whining and complaining.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jan 12, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

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