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Breaking News: Source Says NCAA Has Suspended A.J. Green for Four Games

Earlier this afternoon, I received a contact from a source who reported to me that the University of Georgia has received word from the NCAA that A.J. Green will be suspended for four games.

Last Saturday's season opener against Louisiana-Lafayette reportedly will count as the first game of the suspension, the remaining three games of which will be served during the Georgia Bulldogs' upcoming contests against South Carolina, Arkansas, and Mississippi State. I am informed that Green is scheduled to return for the Bulldogs' game against Colorado on October 2. I am told that the University will appeal, although it is unlikely that the suspension will be reduced, and, obviously, no reduction could come in time for this weekend's game in Columbia.

Unfortunately, the source who contacted me did so while I was in Atlanta, just prior to the beginning of a court proceeding for which I was present in my professional capacity. Naturally, I had to turn my cell phone off before the proceeding began, and I did not have internet access. Accordingly, I made a couple of phone calls once I was back outside. My thanks go out to College Buddy for posting the news I relayed to him, and to MaconDawg for promoting College Buddy's fanpost to the front page until I could get back to my computer.

An announcement should be forthcoming shortly---frankly, I'm surprised I made it home before word got out---but I have confidence that this source is reliable. More will follow once we have confirmation that the news is true. (I'd be happy to be wrong about this, but, again, I trust the person who contacted me; I just wish the timing had been better, but it couldn't be helped.)

Go 'Dawgs!

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I'll be danged:

Missed it by that much; the story broke while I was typing this. It appears Seth Emerson had it first, then the AJC, then David Pollack, and my story hit right after that. Curse you, day job! (Heck, if I hadn’t taken the time to proofread and make sure my bases were covered as far as sourcing is concerned, I might’ve gotten it out first. Remind Buzz Bissinger of that the next time he questions bloggers’ credibility.)

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 8, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course

Pollack, bless him, as is his wont, has the details completely wrong.

by D.N. Nation on Sep 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its ok we still like it

Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.

I Corinthians 9:24

by Southern Dawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

So just to clarify

9 Footballs players at another SEC University can be involved in placing an off duty officer in the ICU, and their punishment is handled ‘internally’?

by DawgShark on Sep 8, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

This

I have no idea why this is such a big deal.

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 8, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The key fact is

the NCAA decided the person who purchased the jersey was a representative of a sports agent.

It sounds like the investigators thought it was an attempt to transfer money from an agent to a future first round draft pick.

by GwinnettGamecock on Sep 8, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does the NCAA wait so long before announcing suspensions?

That’s what screws teams. They don’t give them enough time to prepare with a backup player.

"Call me Snake"

by KSJ49 on Sep 8, 2010 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess UGA

And all other teams should just assume that their players will make stupid mistakes and not be able to play…Awesome.

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 8, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best receiver ever at UGA is missing a third of his games in likley his final year. I want to throw up.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Sep 8, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't forget

the several games he missed last year due to injury, I think those missed games should be applied retroactively.

by DawgShark on Sep 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

Couldn’t he have sold the jersey after the Arky game?

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 8, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what i'm not too happy about

With all his injuries it seems like he’s hardly played

Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.

I Corinthians 9:24

by Southern Dawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i cant decide

throw up or cry?

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Sep 8, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cry

It’s easier to clean up.

by EricBDawg on Sep 8, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Total BS

This is a traveshamockery.

The NCAA doesn’t want anyone making any money off AJ Green except themselves.

Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!

by Poseur on Sep 8, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it will be fundamentally impossible for anyone to convince me how this is consistent with other NCAA punishments.

I also don’t think I can be convinced as to why it took months to resolve an Ebay’d jersey violation.

I can just see the blood draining from our AD’s and Coaches heads when they heard this.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Sep 8, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

When the NCAA is determined to find something, they're going to find something.

Obviously, they had nothing on A.J. regarding the South Beach party, and all the rumors we’ve heard flying around (e.g., insurance policies and suchlike) appear to have been unsubstantiated, as well, but they found one damn jersey sold to one guy who had a connection to an agent.

The NCAA spent too much time and money to come away with nothing, so they had to come up with something, and this is what they came up with after all this time. This is nonsense.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 8, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like their plan

Drop the hammer hard, so that when you let up and reduce the suspension, you end up looking like the good guy.

Asshats.

by blackertai on Sep 8, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

A.J. has been suspended for 1/3 of the season.

To equate this to other sports, he would have to have been suspended for 54 games in Major League Baseball, or 27 games in the NBA.

And like other people are saying, Green got 4 games for selling a damn Independence Bowl jersey, and a guys who sent a police officer to the hospital got nothing but “internal discipline.”

by vineyarddawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

That is a great point. Nike needs to come up with some orange checkerboard prison uniforms.

by Irishdawg8088 on Sep 8, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So far i haven't read anyone credible who thinks this is a just punishment compared to what others have recieved

Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.

I Corinthians 9:24

by Southern Dawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

This makes no sense!!! Being honest and cooperating with the NCAA gets you a 4 game suspension. Granted selling the jersey was stupid but come on!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Irishdawg8088 on Sep 8, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh...

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 8, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

To quote Larry Munson

“There’s going to be some property destroyed tonight.”

by DawgShark on Sep 8, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

As long as one of thode things is a goat..

I’ll be happy.

This crap just never stops.

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 5:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

*those

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 5:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

BS

Doesn’t seem fair to me at all. Sorry to hear about this, guys. I prefer an even playing field.

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by Gamecock Man on Sep 8, 2010 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks. This reaaallly hurts.

If I’m this pissed, I can’t imaging how the players are feeling. Confidence crusher anyone? Damn Nazis!!!

by VDawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate it, Gamecock Man.

I have to say, you and the other South Carolina fans who have commented here this week, as well as C&F over at Team Speed Kills, have been very evenhanded and reasonable about everything. I greatly appreciate the class the Gamecock faithful have shown. Y’all are good people.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 8, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

We try. We can get a little riled up at times, but we try.

To me, the thing about this ruling is that it’s not consistent with similar cases. I get that A.J. is involved with an agent and that he intentionally profited from his amateur status, but in minor cases like this, they usually seem to allow players to make restitutions and then suit back up. Why not here? Maybe we don’t know everything, but I doubt it. The NCAA marches to its own drummer, and that’s BS.

Garnet and Black Attack: A Blog by and for Gamecocks Fans.

by Gamecock Man on Sep 8, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

If it seems like we’re being levelheaded, don’t forget that we’re going through the same thing. Luckily for us, we haven’t had to deal with punishment like this (yet), but we’re still being dragged along by the balls.

Garnet and Black Attack: A Blog by and for Gamecocks Fans.

by Gamecock Man on Sep 8, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saunders...

Had nearly 100 yards against the Dawgs last season, so maybe, in a weird way, this does level things out…

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 8, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we were in a prevent defense since '05.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are too kind.

I mean, what could we possibly say with our 12 players under investigation to your one?

I echo Gamecock Man’s sentiments about the equity of the punishment. Doesn’t seem to make any sense. Perhaps there is more to the story? Although, what, I do not know.

Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina

by The Feathered Warrior on Sep 8, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

some creepy guy is about to burn his beloved NCAA T Shirt

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Sep 8, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

and don’t forget – video this act & then post it on YouTube for our viewing pleasure.

Where’s the guy that wrote Do the Jorts Fit Better with the Bulldogs Foot in Your Ass to write a song to the NCAA jackasses?

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Sep 8, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm certainly no defender of the NCAA...

…and I agree this is unduly harsh, but the key to the rationale might lie in the report on the NCAA’s own website. There they say the jersey was sold to someone they deemed “an agent,” not just a fan. I guess mayhem that results in a few hospitalized cops just isn’t as bad as the prospect that a student athlete might be making a little money off of his star power. Such are decisions made by those insulated by cubicle walls.

by College Buddy on Sep 8, 2010 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the clarification, College Buddy.

Also, thanks for all your help earlier today. I believe Dawg Sports got the word out, however haphazardly, ahead of anyone else, and that was due in no small part to your efforts. I am much obliged, my friend.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 8, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's odd

It seems to me that all the stories are characterizing the person who had the jersey sold to him/her as connected to an agent, or being designated an agent after the fact by the NCAA. In other words, how could AJ have known this was a problem if the person either hid their association or was not clearly an agent until the NCAA looked into this?

Ridiculous.

by blackertai on Sep 8, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reason # 495,039...

that being optimistic (even if it’s a minuscule amount) about the Georgia Bulldogs is a recipe for disaster.

by mdhenshaw on Sep 8, 2010 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

My bad...

I’ll take the blame for this one, fellas. Where’s that goat, again…?

http://hobnailboot.wordpress.com/

by AuditDawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hypocrisy is just insane

According to the NCAA, this aggression by AJ will not stand when it comes to profitting from his own name and not sharing it with UGA. I’m so certain all those #8 jerseys that will sell at the bookstore in two weeks have nothing to do with AJ. We’re all just a bunch of Terrence Edwards fans, right?

/sarcasm rant mode off

http://hobnailboot.wordpress.com/

by AuditDawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

In that case

Why’s Terrence Edwards not getting his cut?

by blackertai on Sep 8, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is very true - and a big part of why I think the players should get some type of small stipend

they can’t work for some “walking around money”, they often come from families without much money, they dont get paid, and the colleges profit from their image and name.

But they are not allowed to sell personal property if it has their school’s logo stamped on it. Even though it is theirs. Even though they can sell all of it after they leave school.

The NCAA has gone to far in the name of fairness and reaks of double standards, hypocrisy and just ripe BS.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Sep 8, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

My son wore a No. 8 jersey to last Saturday’s game. He knows exactly whose jersey he was wearing.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 8, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time to work on my "Free AJ" T-shirt.

Think I’ll wear it to the game Saturday. Wonder if I have enough time to go by a graphic design place to get this made.

by UgaBulldog14 on Sep 8, 2010 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

and yes I'm pissed

to go along with that sick feeling in my stomach

by UgaBulldog14 on Sep 8, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO! No more shirts related to AJ Green. That’s like making a “Go Ogletree” scooter helmet.

by AdamLilly on Sep 8, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ROFL

Or naming an Alley after Vance Cuff

Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.

I Corinthians 9:24

by Southern Dawg on Sep 8, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

One more thing. . .

Everyone should note that the NCAA report also makes clear that, should the school appeal, the player’s disqualification remains effective until the appeal is resolved. That’s a way to go ahead and get their four games from him even if they ultimately decide the penalty should be reduced, I suppose. “Guilty until proven innocent” — that’s the imperial way!

by College Buddy on Sep 8, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Which is stupid...

In baseball, a player plays until the appeal is completed. Thus, we could at least get through South Carolina and Arky before having AJ sit out…

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 8, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a black #8 jersery for sale on this website right now. I guess if AJ was selling a black jersey, it would be understandable.

and a very timely example of the utter BS that a player can give away his property, burn it, trash it, but can’t sell it.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Sep 8, 2010 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn

I’d rather he just went to Miami. Seems that is getting simpler punishment.

by blackertai on Sep 8, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there any chance that

the utter insanity of this whole thing, at least as we know it currently, is a unifying force for this team to go out an do everything they can and play with a little more fire in the belly?

by EricBDawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha. Ha ha ha. HA HA HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHH

No.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Sep 8, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly.

As noted above, South Carolina has had to deal with this, and has had to sit some players, and North Carolina lost much of its defense. The Gamecocks played their best opener under Steve Spurrier last Thursday night, and the Tar Heels barely missed the upset against LSU.

It could happen. With our luck, I wouldn’t bet on it, but it could happen.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 8, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you're saying the flip side

is that we come out flat, give up an easy score to two and can’t find it within our resolve to come back on them?

by EricBDawg on Sep 8, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can complain...

about the unfairness and yadda yadda yadda, but it was a really dumb move by Green. It’s been an off-season of really dumb moves by people who should know better.

by mdhenshaw on Sep 8, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

i see your point

but i also know it is hard for the paid compliance officer at every school to keep up with every NCAA rule – its like a 1000 page book and ever changing. It is completely american and human to think “these are my clothes, i can sell it if i want to.”

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Sep 8, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is also true

However, what kind of lesson does the NCAA think it’s teaching someone by being unjust in meteing out punishment?

by EricBDawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

“Don’t sell your stuff on eBay” is a pretty prominent part of UGA’s compliance presentation to student-athletes, particularly given what happened in 2003 with the SEC Championship rings.

Yeah, it was kinda’ dumb – but it doesn’t excuse the fact that the punishment seems way over-wrought compared to other ‘punishments’ that the NCAA doles out.

by CAJason80 on Sep 8, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right, mdhenshaw, . . .

. . . but I agree with CAJason80: A.J. should have known better, but this punishment doesn’t fit the crime, particularly since it appears the contact with an agent was unknowing and at one remove.

When I overreacted to the arrest warrant against Ogletree, the community rightly told me I was going too far in making an example of a kid by suggesting a punishment that was disproportionate to his wrongdoing. Four games for this is wildly out of whack.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 8, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dr. Rich Plinko, Director, NCAA Punishment Division

"Dorsey Hill thinks when you die you go to Vince Dooley's house. He can't wait." --The Incomparable Lewis Grizzard

by Law Dawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

TKK - Sitting on the side of I-85...

with the GSP blue-light special behind me always gives me the same crappy feeling (and I’ve been there more than once). I hope against hope, maybe this trooper (read NCAA bureaucrat) won’t be a d-bag THIS time. And yet, here we are, with that sinking feeling in your gut. Green pushed the limit (85 in a 65 in Jackson Co.) and lost.

by Volthead on Sep 8, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

As a former Gwinnett and Clarke County resident...

Let me just say that moving to Jackson was quite the adjustment in terms of traffic enforcement.

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a former employee of a Jackson County corporation

let me guess that traffic enforcement wasn’t the ONLY adjustment you had to make.

by EricBDawg on Sep 8, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't had this feeling

since I was sitting on the deck, drankin’ a few beers and not studying at T.K. Harty’s Saloon on a fine spring day in ’83 when a buzz started going through the crowd that Herschel had signed with the USFL. By the time I (pre-24 hour news cycle) turned on the national news that night, all was confirmed: Herschel was a New Jersey General.

This really sucks.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Sep 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Just thinking about the list of bowl game gifts players were given last year (since keeping the jersey was part of the bowl game package)

http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/64318

Its interesting that players are allowed to accept monetary gifts as long as they are in gift card/shopping spree form (some up to $420).

Of course in this case, they’re provided by Bowl Committees and Corporate Sponsors that help the NCAA profit… so it’s ok.

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

this is the kind of stuff I am saying. It's ok as long as _I_ profit. You profit - violation.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Sep 8, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we can buy legit apparel and memorabilia from the players, how will the licensing companies ever profit from selling us replicas?

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

These pretzels are making me thirsty...

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 8, 2010 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...

And 4 games is only 25% of an NFL season (not including playoffs)…Thus, Green received a harsher penalty than Big Ben! Stupid.

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 8, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Selling a jersey gets a player suspended 4 games?

What about the incident in 2003 when dozens of players sold their SEC championship rings? Did the NCAA suspend the players? There is something fishy going on here. A.J. Green admits to selling a jersey, but there’s no doubt that there are players who have done similar things or worse things that the NCAA didn’t find.

There are South Carolina players who are still waiting to be cleared, and I’m not surprised that they will play this Saturday. Of course, it takes a team (not a player) to win a game, but if A.J.’s absence has an impact on UGA losing games this season when A.J. has not done anything criminal and the fact it took this long just to make a conclusion, the NCAA boneheads have pretty much shot itself in the foot.

by thefirstgenesis on Sep 8, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn’t Marcell Dareus get two games and have to repay $1800? Why does Green have to repay less and sit longer?

by OrangeBritches on Sep 8, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we are a rogue program...

What with out emerging from alleys, suspended licenses, and end zone celebrations.

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

My thinking....

Dareus went to the Alabama staff and told them about the airplane ride to Miami, to which they turned him in to the NCAA.

Georgia didn’t do that with Green.

Fumbles. It was always Fumbles

by DocFumbles on Sep 8, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know, but I don't think that to be true.

The NCAA ruling mentions “The university declared the student-athlete ineligible for violations of NCAA agent benefits rules. According to the facts of the case submitted by Georgia” which leads me to believe that UGA did, in fact, turn AJ in. I’m no attorney, so I’ll defer to those who are to verify or discredit my belief.

(Looks for Kyle)

by EricBDawg on Sep 8, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is...

He would probably be better off if he had done something criminal.

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That little incident

caused the NCAA to re-write the rules on players selling stuff.

by JRL on Sep 8, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best revenge this season maybe to beat florida 60-3.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Sep 8, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today is a good day to die

Or with some good Gagh, Hab Sosli Quch!

by blackertai on Sep 8, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

taH pagh taHbe'.

That is the question.

And now, to go to a Bible study. Perhaps this was a good day for this to break after all.

by vineyarddawg on Sep 8, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reminder

After the suffering as we have had in the defensive coordinator category over the past several years, I would like to allude to a budding Erk-esque defense.

If Grantham’s defense plays the way he hopes and serves up a shutout, we only need to get Blair Walsh inside the 40 yard line ONCE to win the game this weekend (or every game for the rest of the season!).

And now, for some Karma…

“So we’ll try to kick one a hundred thousand miles. We’re holding it on our own 49-and-a-half … gonna try to kick it sixty yards plus a foot-and-a-half … and Butler kicked a long one … a long one … Oh my God! Oh my God! … The stadium is worse than bonkers! I can’t believe what he did! This is ungodly!” – Larry calling Kevin Butler’s field goal in the final seconds to win over Clemson in 1984.

by Volthead on Sep 8, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Condolences.

That sucks. AJ is a great player, and I would have liked to see him in action against SC. The “deemed to fall under the definition of an agent” part seems pretty sketchy on the NCAA’s behalf. That’s the NCAA for you though.

As far as any comparisons between AJG and Marcel Dareus, their offenses both earned the default 4 game suspension, but Dareus had his reduced to to “mitigating circumstances”. It’s hard to say what those were exactly, but Dareus did turn himself in. While Green likely did not lie about his discretion, the NCAA might have discovered it on its own. Also, it’s pretty clear that Green deliberately broke the rules. According to reports, Dareus had no clue that there were going to be agents around in Miami. Of course, when his suspension came out we found out that there were two trips, which was a bit of a surprise. We don’t really know anything about the first trip.

"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted

by Zoltar on Sep 8, 2010 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

At the same time

you have to recognize that Dareus made that second trip, and it wasn’t like he didn’t know what was going on after the first trip. Hopefully AJ’s suspension is reduced, especially in light of the reports that he was fully cooperative and had already paid the money to a charity.

by EricBDawg on Sep 8, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

How, pray tell

Does one accept $2000 without realizing that that might constitute improper benefits. Especially considering you’re a player on a team just coming off a national title game? At least Green was selling something he thought he owned (big surprise, the NCAA doesn’t think that’s the case).

by blackertai on Sep 8, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

AJ broke a rule, he should be punished

Everyone knows you can lose your amateur status by taking cash, so I can’t agree with the notion of “he was just trying to make a buck of his own talents”. All the NCAA players have to play by those same rules, plus that’s an argument for another day. Simply, he broke a rule, he should be punished.

1 game… 2 max. 4 games is absofuckingloutly regoddamndiculous

by knowshon loves legos on Sep 8, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

The 4 games suspension comes at a very inopportune time...

when we have to face 3 strong teams to start the season. They could have picked any number of games, but 4 games suspension? Like many have said, the punishment quite possibly might not fit the crime, and I’m not sure if the NCAA is setting us up for something that could potential kick us in the rear. We better hope Grantham’s D hold up, and we can put up some points the next 3 weeks

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by jfdsiao jifods on Sep 8, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Look Hello Kitty...

I’m not in the mood for your merchandise pimping. Now shut your yap lest you join your friend the goat.

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I aim to please

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Mobile Rec!

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Sep 8, 2010 10:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hello Kitty you are hereby suspended for 4 games!!!!

and that’s just annoying the heck out of me

Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.

I Corinthians 9:24

by Southern Dawg on Sep 8, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's one hot

kitty.

LOL #2 for you on the night.

by EricBDawg on Sep 8, 2010 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

i have nothing additional to add

that hasn’t already been said – I’m just as pissed off as everyone else. Ditto UT beating cop into ICU = “internal punishment”, Dareus gets 1800 in partying = 2 game suspension, AJ sells jersey for <1k = 4 game suspension being insanely ridiculous.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Sep 8, 2010 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

The real question is...

Do you have delicious baked goods to add to the Oct. 2nd meetup… Perhaps some “Welcome Back, AJ” brownies?

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

You are sorely missed during the open comment threads.

Are you going to be able to watch us fry up the chickens?

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be here for the chicken game

and there is cherry dump cake in the oven right this minute. My dear sweet grandfather (and favorite grandparent) who I loved more than I can say passed away early Saturday morning. The funeral was this afternoon. So that’s where I’ve been all week. I slept through most of the game last week because I’d been up all night.

I’ll be bringing something yummy to the Goat Roast, perhaps a few somethings.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Sep 8, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa did you change avatars on us mid-comment thread

messin’ with my head podunkdawg

Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.

I Corinthians 9:24

by Southern Dawg on Sep 8, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did

it’s a picture I found during the gathering of old photos of my grandfather. That’s actually ME as a young child – notice I’ve got a football in my hands?? When I saw that I thought it was hysterical. I think maybe I’m 5 or 6 in that photo.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Sep 8, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome

A great tribute and a great way to remember him throughout the year. I’ll certainly remember it.

Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.

I Corinthians 9:24

by Southern Dawg on Sep 8, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad you'll be with us

And glad you were able to be with your family at this difficult time. We’ll continue to pray for you.

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks everyone

it’s been a tough week. My grandfather absolutely LOVED ballgames. Last year he was terribly ill, in ICU etc etc etc, and I had tickets to the fayetteville game. I was debating what to do – do I go or do I stay? I talked it over with my family and we concluded (no joke here) if he had tickets to a ball game and I was laying in the ICU – he would go to the game. As you know I went to the game. It’s what he would want. So I’ll be here to watch the ballgames all season long, and enjoy it because it’s what my Grandaddy would want.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Sep 8, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

very cool.

I know from experience with losing my Dad when I was 15 that watching ball games is a great way to re-live memories of spending fun, quality time with loved ones. God Bless!!!

by EricBDawg on Sep 8, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry for your loss

and glad to hear that you are still taking joy in the games.

When my uncle passed away at an early age, my father couldn’t watch or even talk about Carolina games for an entire season. I think what brought him back was when I told my mother it felt like I had lost both of them from something that had been (and now is again) a huge part of our lives.

by GwinnettGamecock on Sep 9, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

My Grandaddy was not at all particular about any particular team or for that matter any particular sport. He was known in our small town for going to every single ball game of any sport ever played in town. So much in fact that when my boys played rec league basketball & baseball, I might have to pay to get into the tournament, but my Grandaddy never did. He never saw a ballgame he didn’t like. But one time he got rather upset with yours truly and some other mama’s for our behavior at a game. No amount of “but Daddy they were cheating!” could change his mind. He fussed anyway that we ought to be ashamed. In his defense we were trying to make sure we had enough bail money cuz we figured someone was going to jail, so he might’ve been right, we might’ve been just a touch over the top :)

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Sep 9, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

unfreakinbelievable

"Sometimes I think it is a great mistake to have matter that can think and feel. It complains so. By the same token, though, I suppose that boulders and mountains and moons could be accused of being a little too phlegmatic."
-Kurt Vonnegut, "The Sirens of Titan"

by Bravely going forward on Sep 8, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

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