A. J. Green suspended for four games
by College Buddy on Sep 8, 2010 3:34 PM EDT
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Per Kyle, NCAA has suspended A. J. Green for four games. First game back will be Colorado on October 2. More to follow when Kyle gets back to his computer. He actually found out about this while in downtown Atlanta pursuing his day job.
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I might throw up.
This better be a sick joke. How does Marcell Dareus get off with a 2 game suspension after receiving more than $2000 in improper benefits but AJ gets 4 games for selling a jersey for less than $1000??? I’m going to try and not destroy my office furniture until I receive confirmation on this.
Brutal
If this is, in fact, true, it’s a brutal consequence. I smell a rat though. Chambers of the Supreme Court? If that’s the case, I don’t think TKK would want you revealing this source.
For what it's worth, . . .
. . . that’s where I was when I received word. I tried calling MaconDawg first, and, when I couldn’t get him, I called College Buddy, who typed it while I was on the phone with him. Any criticisms are applicable to me, not to him.
Go 'Dawgs!
No criticism
I just thought this meant that perhaps Justice Carley pulled you aside between oral arguments. It was actually a funny picture in my head — thus it seemed relatively implausible. Makes more sense that you got the call while at the court.
by WindyCityDawg on Sep 8, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks.
Your question was a fair one; I just wanted to clarify it. Had I had fifteen minutes and access to the internet, the story would have been clearer from the get-go, but I didn’t want other folks taking the fall for my ambiguity (or my subsequent attempt to clear up that ambiguity).
Go 'Dawgs!
No worries here
You beat ESPN and AJC by about 5-10 minutes, and it turned out to be true so I don’t understand why people are up in arms about it..
According to AJC and Mcgarity, they’re appealing the length of the suspension. Any chance that that will be upheld, and timeframe? Are they going to take several weeks to review and rule or is that something that they have a turnaround time on of several days?
My source tells me that the University will appeal the length of the suspension.
The prospects for getting it shortened didn’t sound good to me, based on what my source said, but it’s not impossible.
This is my opinion, and is not based on anything my source said, but I don’t see any way it’s shortened in time for the South Carolina game.
Go 'Dawgs!
As I figured
It doesn’t sound like it would affect his status for SCAR, regardless. It does seem very harsh to mete out a 4 game suspension, maybe UGA’s lawyers can make an effective enough case. This definitely sets a pretty harsh precedent for future suspensions regarding agent contact.
It is definitely time for Durham and Tavarres King to step up Saturday. Need a big game from Ealey and C. King as well to take pressure off Murray and the receivers. Then need the OL to really step up and make those holes for the RB’s and provide good protection for Murray. I would imagine SCAR’s game plan will be to stack the box to stop the run and force Murray to make throws.
Where's that damn goat?
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard
by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 3:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Chambers of the Georgia Supreme Court?
So, he was in the men’s room?
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Sep 8, 2010 4:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Chambers of the Supreme Court now gone from the post. Interesting.
by WindyCityDawg on Sep 8, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like he was doing his day job...
… which might have included being in and around the Supreme Court, and got a text or a call with the news. Remember, he knows Green’s family.
Of course, this also sounds like blind speculation on my part.
That's a fair point, WindCityDawg.
The sequence was this: I was there when I received word, but I couldn’t do anything with it because of where I was. My main point in mentioning it was to demonstrate why I didn’t get the word out sooner, but that didn’t come through because my mind was running a mile a minute and I was dictating on a cell phone.
When I got outside the building, I called MaconDawg, who was out of pocket. I then called College Buddy, to whom I relayed the information. He basically typed what I dictated; he read it to me before posting it, and I approved it. When I later got through to MaconDawg to ask him to promote the post to the front page, MaconDawg wisely suggested that I might not want to include such extraneous information relating to my day job, which only could have confused the issue (which, obviously, it did). At his suggestion, but at my instruction, MaconDawg redacted that information.
Where I was when the source contacted me ultimately wasn’t germane, but my mind was on other things at the time, and my point (e.g., why I didn’t break the story sooner) did not get through as I intended. This was my fault; College Buddy and MaconDawg were helping me out, but the decisions (and, therefore, the mistakes) were mine. I apologize for creating confusion when what I really was trying to do was break news based on a good source.
Go 'Dawgs!
This had better not be true....
AJ gets 4 games for selling a jersey, but Darious is dealing with a FREAKING AGENT and only gets 2 games??? Are you F-ing kidding me NCAA?
A report on georgiascout.com by Dean Legge exclaims that Green will play this Saturday.
Right now, I don’t know who to believe. One says Green will play. The other says that he is suspended 4 games. This whole NCAA conundrum is all about bureaucracy. No wonder nothing got done during the past month. If Green had done something extremely wrong, they would’ve known about it first and declared something right away instead of having this drag on and on and on.
I believe TKK
Frankly, I don’t remember the last time I read something from Kyle on here (about something as important as this) that ended up being flat out wrong. If he has a source, I think it’s true.
by WindyCityDawg on Sep 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Chambers of Supreme court – fishy
No links or references – weak
Someone I dont know posting on behalf of Kyle – quit odd
I think Kyle got hacked
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Collegebuddy might have gotten hacked.
I’ve seen him posting before, and Kyle has seemed to know him in his replies. So Collegebuddy might have had “promoting to front page” privileges or something and got hacked.
makes some sense
A story this big I would normally think Kyle would post himself, and do so after lots of validation. Him or MD. This seems out of character for the blog in general – but anything is possible. Remember, we just heard abou the jersey and waiting to be cleared. 4 games doesnt make sense on what we know.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
I've talked to Kyle. I promoted it to the front page.
Kyle is simply away from the computer, I’m sure he’ll be here in a bit.
by MaconDawg on Sep 8, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe you're a hacker too!
thanks MD – that actually makes some sense now.
Damnit all to hell.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
And then promoted to the front page?
TKK get back to a computer!
by WindyCityDawg on Sep 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry about all the confusion and delay.
For the record, if y’all will take up a collection and pay me what I make practicing law, I’ll be happy to do this full-time! :)
Seriously, I’m sorry for the way this went down, and for the confusion it created. College Buddy is a longtime friend I know I can trust. If you hear from him that he’s heard from me, it means I can’t get to a computer and my first call (to MaconDawg) didn’t get through (for the record, because MaconDawg also has professional responsibilities, which he was fulfilling).
It was good information, just bad timing. Oh, and bad news, too, of course, but we’ll get to that later.
Go 'Dawgs!
Just read
where Matt Stinchcomb is reporting that AJ will miss the entire season. This is getting out of control.
On twitter.
I don’t believe it for a second. Just interesting how crazy this has gotten.
Someone texted Bill Shanks
that Stonchcomb had said it. You know, whether or not he actually did.
Yay, hurried misspellings.
Get ya every time.
i smell a bumble bee behind all of this. even if not true, lets just blame them anyway.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
You'd think if a nerd were behind it...
… they would do post a story a little more transparent, like
GEORGE P. BURDELL IS TEH R0XXX0RRR!!!!
or something like that.
I have gotten no work done in the last hour.
The again my boss is hunting right now so I don’t feel so bad.
You and me both, man.
Thanks again for everything you did to get the story out this afternoon. It was a wild hour or so there, and I’m obliged to you and College Buddy both.
Go 'Dawgs!
that's classic
i need humor to make me feel better
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Sep 8, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
This is all a big Chik-Fil-A promotion...
If Kyle gets 200 more page views, he gets a free spicy chicken sandwich.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Sep 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
what about us?
do we get coupons?
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Sep 8, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
We need REAL news
Not rumor mongering and speculation! Somebody call the NCAA personally!
I am trying to call Mark (Coach Richt that is), but he is currently in the chambers of the supreme court. I should hear from him shortly.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
I heard
That Aj Green will be transferring to the University of Florida, and will be allowed to take the field immediately.
Not immediately
He’s got a least 3 days of AK-47 firing to get through before he qualifies for a spot on the team.
I mean, they’ve got standards.
Just so we're clear
It actually would’ve been better if AJ went to the party in Miami?
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard
by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 4:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Marc Curles just got a funny feeling
And he doesn’t know why.
MOTHER FRACKIN HELL. SOMEBODY SACRIFICE A GOAT AT THE ARCH OR SOMETHING!
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Ah, the NCAA
Spurious decision making at its finest. It’s like trying to infer logic from the drunkest person you go out with on a Friday night.
Joe Schad's reporting more to the eBay story
…in that the person that Green sold his jersey to was an agent.
(facepalm)
To be more specific...
… The story is that he sold his Independence Bowl jersey to a person who was later found to be associated with an agent.
Bulldogs Blog
Going to the Arch….
http://dawg-extra.blogspot.com/2010/09/green-suspended-four-games.html
good link - GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Well, let the Kris Durham era begin!
Who’s with me?
Guys? Where’d everyone go?
I think most of the Georgia fans here are busy assuming this position.
Hard to type when you’re doing that.
That looks like a story from earlier this morning
that hasn’t been updated. That quote from Richt is from the early morning AP wire story and this morning’s story on awaiting the outcome from the AJC.
N o Time stamp other than the date
That could have been published earlier this morning. Well the Dawg-extra is a more recent post.
Exiting an alley
Riding a scotter the wrong way
Problems with middle names
Hitting a parked car
Stealing a scotter helmet
And ……selling a jersey
This is both embarrasing and the worst “thugs” ever. I mean, go hold up a store with a BB gun or something – lets try and get this right. CMR must be slamming his head in the wall. Seriously – there is only so much you can do.
Good News – chances of AJ staying for his senior year just went up.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Or
He’s fed up with ridiculous rules that do nothing but punish him unjustly. I know I’d take the money rather than deal with this frustration for no reason.
might affect his draft pick though - maybe. just trying to find something positive
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
No way
Bryant was a total douche and still went 1st round. AJ is a top 10 pick at worst, if not a top 5.
No wonder UGA's got lawyers on this
This is a travesty! What are they thinking?
Last year, they punished Dez Bryant for being untruthful and generally a scum-bag-like character in his dealings with the NCAA during questioning. This year, they’ve got a rash of players in contact with agents (allegedly), and they’ve already cost some of the players involved a game if they were innocent. Now, we find out after over a month of speculation that AJ Green’s indiscretion was to sell a game-worn jersey to a fan. That fan turned out to be connected to an agent (possibly), which seems to have been unknown to AJ at the time. AJ has already repaid the money to charity (according to reports), and has been completely truthful with the NCAA the entire time (again, according to reports).
How, then, does the NCAA justify sitting him 4 games when they only fined Darius at Alabama 2 games for what most people are calling deliberate agent contact. Green didn’t know he was selling to a runner, AFAIK, and he’s been truthful the entire time. Why punish him so severely? This makes no sense. I feel like I’m reading the first reports about Mettenberger being kicked off the team all over again. There has to be SOMETHING more to this story to justify 4 games. The NCAA can’t be this malicious in it’s prosecution.
There is no double standard
At least lil’ Jeffy Schultz says so.
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard
by RedCrake on Sep 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Comments at Bulldogs Blog are telling
Tennessee players put a cop in ICU, and get internal suspension.
AJ sells a jersey (which he’s already repaid the value of) and is out 4 games.
Unbelievable.
by blackertai on Sep 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
THIS
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Sep 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
If AJ had robbed someone and also gotten busted for pot
He apparently would be allowed to play for anyone in America to start the season.
But selling a jersey gets you four games. Makes total sense.
Yeah
Florida is lucky that Percy Harvey never sold a jersey, just got high all the time. Where would they have been in 08 without his insanely high ass running option routes?
is there
any word if he may have lied to NCAA at some point? That would be suitable of 4 games. Also it appeared he was still being questioned about the Miami incident yesterday, maybe something came out about that???
Either way this sucks. I wanted him to play,
Every indication is that he has been truthful the whole time.
Mark Schlabach’s report emphasized that Green had been fully forthcoming with the NCAA. His initial unqualified statement that he not only didn’t go to the party, but had never even been to Miami, has never been refuted. He’s never gotten into any legal trouble, and I’ve seen nothing to indicate that he’s ever been untruthful. We know from Mark Richt’s punishment of Zach Mettenberger that he treats it as a very big deal when a player lies to him, so Coach Richt’s demeanor on the whole thing suggests that he believes A.J. Nothing seems to indicate any dishonesty on A.J.’s part; even the sale of the jersey to someone connected with an agent appears to have been innocuous (the connection with the agent, I mean; the sale, obviously, was deliberate).
Go 'Dawgs!
Seems to me, but I'm no NCAA insider, attorney, or anything like that
but there has to be something more. I can’t imagine the NCAA handing down such a harsh punishment for simply selling a uni especially when the comments were about how forthcoming AJ was and how he was working with the investigators and how he had already repaid the money. It doesn’t make sense, not even by NCAA standards.
I don't know if it was considered. . .
But remember that the groundbreaking case on this issue was the sale, en masse, of 2003 SEC Championship rings by several Georgia players (Kedric Golston and Fred Gibson spring to mind). I could see the NCAA saying “Your compliance staff assured us that they now educate you guys about that. So we know that you knew it was wrong.”
But surely
other compliance staffs assured the NCAA that they would educate players regarding taking trips paid for by agents to clients of said agents homes and partying with client and agent.
And surely, other compliance staffs have assured the NCAA that they have spoken with their players about how stealing is wrong, using illegal drugs is wrong, putting anyone in the hospital by using your fists on them is wrong, etc. etc. etc….
If he had lied, he would have been suspended for the entire year (see: Bryant, Dez).
not drunk, just overserved
by Gen. Stoopnagle on Sep 8, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This feels like the LSU game
all over again. :(
Right or wrong I
suspect the NCAA is sending a very clear and loud message – don’t sell your shit and don’t deal with agents.
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