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Evidently, he sold a jersey and has to pay back the money.

Yeah, I can totally see why that would take six weeks to address. (Do you smell that, boys and girls? That's sarcasm!)

Go 'Dawgs!

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Oh i thought that smell...

…was the mountain of BS the NCAA laid on uga’s front lawn for the past 2 months.

At least it looks like it might be finally resolved. But the NCAA could have a bowel movement between now and saturday and who knows what will happen then.

Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.

I Corinthians 9:24

by Southern Dawg on Sep 7, 2010 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I just saw this, too.

Ok, yeah, it’s stupid to sell a jersey on e-bay when A.J. should know you can’t do that. (Granted, he wasn’t around for the ring-selling scandal after 2002, but the compliance people educate the athletes that they can’t sell their stuff on e-bay. And for the record, selling a game jersey is a lot different than selling one of Georgia’s first SEC championship rings in 20 years. I hope it was a blackout jersey.)

But it takes the goram NCAA so long to investigate this relatively simple matter that A.J. misses a game by default?

(expletive rant deleted)

Ok, so he was going to be suspended for a game anyway. Wouldn’t it have been nice to know that before the season started than to figure it out after his week suspension has been served by default.

(grumble grumble grumble) stupid NCAA (grumble grumble)

by vineyarddawg on Sep 7, 2010 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Still

No power in the verse, can stop Aj Green.

by DawgShark on Sep 7, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fully understand the NCAA's dilemma. The facts will show that...

…A.J. was riding a moped in the wrong direction down a one-way street while carrying the jersey in question and wearing a stolen helmet someone lent him to ride on ‘said moped’ and crashed into a car in a parking deck that was occupied by a Sports Agent who was backing out on his way to a party in Miami.

It’s complicated. A.J. should be kicked off the team.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Sep 7, 2010 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

but did he know his middle name?

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Sep 7, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

+100 brownies

just for making me actually laugh out loud.
Thanks.

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by podunkdawg on Sep 8, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just glad it was a jersey.

If he’d sold a pair of red panties, it would have proven a lack of institutional control, and we’d probably be looking at the death penalty.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 7, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

ROFL

Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.

I Corinthians 9:24

by Southern Dawg on Sep 7, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2.5 point Vegas line on game jumps in three....two....one.....

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Sep 7, 2010 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Jason comes up with some good stuff.

You have to give the guy credit . . . I wouldn’t be nearly as evenhanded about Georgia Tech as he is about Georgia.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 7, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yo, NCAA

"Frankie Edgar... beat the fuck out of Snooki, that's why she looks like Dio after Sabbath." --Joey Diaz

MMA For Real

by Anthony Pace on Sep 7, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Stupid but forgiveable

This is an incredibly stupid thing to do, but forgiveable. Here’s how I see this going down.

NCAA comes to town to interview AJ. Lawyers meet with AJ and, as good lawyers always do, state as follows: “Is there anything we need to know?” AJ has no dealing with agents, no parties, nothing of that nature. He did, however, sell a jersey to a friend or family member (the report said it wasn’t an ebay issue). He confesses to the lawyers, they tell him to be honest with the NCAA, and the NCAA spends 40 days tracking down every AJ Green item sold on eBay in the last three years. They come up with nothing, he pays the money back (or to a charity, as I think is custom) and takes the one game.

Am I right or am I right? I hope I’m right. This is only part rumor mongering, since we now have a trusted “report” to go by.

by WindyCityDawg on Sep 7, 2010 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I just think it's interesting that AJ Green is an Ebayer.

Wouldn’t have pegged him as one going into the season. Oh, the things you learn.

by UgaBulldog14 on Sep 7, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not going to get to excited about this...

until I see it from an actual credible news source. Sorry Chuck “the self proclaimed King of College Football” Oliver doesn’t cut it for me.

Needless to say I hope he is right.

by RocketDawg on Sep 7, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Dean Legge is reporting he will play

I consider him a reputable and credible source….hopefully he isn’t using Chuch Oliver as his basis for reporting.

by RocketDawg on Sep 7, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good news if he's cleared to play

But here’s a thing I’ve been wondering. There’s been talk about players allegedly getting (or actually getting) improper benefits, reimbursing the money or the cost of the benefit, and moving right along. I don’t know about y’all, but I didn’t have $1,000 or Miami airfare lying around the house when I was in school. Was I that poor kid?

by NCT on Sep 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

If this is true, I am super pissed...

Ya’ll were supposed to wait for us to get together before you sacrificed the goat.

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Sep 7, 2010 8:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

We may not be in the clear yet.

While I was typing and posting tonight’s Dawg bites, Seth Emerson posted this.

That goat ain’t breathing easy yet.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 7, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he made $1000 profit,

he might be facing more than a one game suspension. If it is only one game, you should be appreciative that the NCAA was lenient in the case.

by GwinnettGamecock on Sep 7, 2010 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, come on, now.

Marcel Dareus accepted approximately $2,000 in impermissible benefits on two trips to Miami in matters concerning an agent. Even if we accept for the sake of argument that there are comparable degrees of culpability between accepting benefits in two incidents related to agents on the one hand and selling a jersey on the other (and no reasonable person would suggest with a straight face that they are in any way comparable), Dareus’s two-game suspension suggests that the going rate is $1,000 a game. If A.J. Green made a $1,000 profit, that’s a one-game suspension, even if all other things are equal, and all other things are not equal.

The NCAA hasn’t been lenient, they’ve been incompetent. If the reports we’re hearing are accurate, I’m appreciative of getting A.J. Green back on the field, but my feeling about the rest of the situation is aggravation, not appreciation.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 7, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hadn't followed the Bama situation too closely

Though we play them, I don’t think there is any one player significant enough to them to appreciably alter the likely outcome.

I was comparing it to our Saunders situation, and we have basically been told by our insiders that if he ever steps on the field again, it will be a surprise. I thought there had been other instances of kids selling tickets or football items that had merited heftier suspensions, but I can’t cite anything. Regardless, I am more concerned about getting the NCAA to stop dragging their heels on King (LT) and Culliver (CB) than Green. If we get those two, I will feel as close to comfortable as is possible for any game with Georgia. I don’t feel confident with Georgia any more unless the clock says 00.

by GwinnettGamecock on Sep 7, 2010 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Not a problem.

I hope I didn’t respond too harshly before; I just don’t think the A.J. Green situation is similar in character to the situations we’ve heard about at Alabama or North Carolina. While selling a jersey is a violation, and he should have to pay the money back if he derived an improper benefit from selling it, it was simply a matter of a fan or collector being willing to pay to get an A.J. Green jersey. It’s not anything that undermines his amateur status or smacks of a Reggie Bush-type situation. He engaged in a financial transaction that he shouldn’t have, but he wasn’t being paid under the table by boosters or otherwise getting special treatment because he was an athlete. A guy just wanted an A.J. Green jersey too badly, and a player was a willing seller in an arms-length exchange in which he sold it for what a willing buyer was willing to pay.

I hadn’t heard that the Weslye Saunders situation was so serious, and I agree with you about the South Carolina players whose fates are up in the air. It ought to be pretty easy to determine what a player was paying to stay at a hotel, and to mete out the same punishment as in the Dareus and (ostensibly) Green situations: make them pay it back, suspend them for a consistent number of games, and let them go on about their business.

I hope both teams are at full strength on Saturday. It ought to be as great a game as usual, and it ought to carry more consequences than most. While I have a vested interest in the outcome, I want the eventual winner to come by it honestly rather than because the NCAA moved too slowly to let one team or the other field a full complement of players.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 7, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all off the record, whisper type things

but Saunders apparently made things worse by using the NCAA investigation as an excuse to miss a team meeting (told coaches he was talking to compliance, but wasn’t), he had fallen much further behind on his rent at the Whitney that any other player (more than the next two put together), and he has the agent party hanging over his head. He will not be on the field Saturday, and has been asked to stay away from the team until further notice.

King’s issue is related to the Whitney, but I don’t know why – the others were all cleared last Thursday. He is likely to play.

Culliver never stayed at the Whitney, but the NCAA is investigating the insurance policy he purchased to protect his pro career. I think he will be cleared, but his is the situation I have heard the least about.

by GwinnettGamecock on Sep 8, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

And in new breaking news...

… the lawyers involved in the A.J. Green NCAA mess totally think that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

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