Have the Georgia Bulldogs Begun Their 2011 Fulmer Cup Defense?

by T Kyle King on Sep 3, 2010 2:15 PM EDT in News

An interesting legal question has been raised by the Blogger Who Came In From the Cold. A warrant for Alec Ogletree's arrest was issued on Thursday, presumably before the close of the business day at 5:00 p.m. College football season began last night with the kickoff of the Wake Forest-Presbyterian game at 6:30 p.m. Accordingly, when the warrant was issued, it was still technically the offseason. Moreover, the incident giving rise to the warrant occurred on June 15, but arrangements were being made for Ogletree to turn himself in today, according to Seth Emerson.

Which date controls, the date of the incident, the date the warrant was issued, or the date the player turned himself in to the authorities? In other words, have the Georgia Bulldogs just scored the first points in their 2011 Fulmer Cup defense, or are they running up the score on their 2010 Fulmer Cup victory?

I have e-mailed Orson Swindle to ask for an official ruling, but, until he gets back to me with an authoritative pronouncement, let me know what you think.

(Yes, this an attempt to lighten the mood after a particularly tense morning, not least of all for me.)

Go 'Dawgs!

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Should the warrant issued for Alec Ogletree count toward the 2010 Fulmer Cup standings or toward the 2011 Fulmer Cup standings?

It should count toward the 2010 Fulmer Cup standings.

65 votes

It should count toward the 2011 Fulmer Cup standings.

50 votes

School officials should be able to choose the year toward which it will count, like in recruiting.

11 votes

It shouldn't count at all, for the slick legal reason I have provided in the comments.

13 votes

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This really makes me wonder ....

…. if we don’t have some serious issues regarding discipline. < Understatement of the year.

It's a gas, gas, gas.

by Keith Richards on Sep 3, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions

I think it's pretty clear that this one belongs in 2010.

Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina

by The Feathered Warrior on Sep 3, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions

If I understand correctly (a hazardous assumption for sure), the FC is a strictly offseason phenomenon.

If that’s the case, then Ogletree’s transgression is, for Fulmer Cup purposes, neither a 2010 fish nor a 2011 fowl.

by MaconDawg on Sep 3, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions

Right on.

not drunk, just overserved

by Gen. Stoopnagle on Sep 3, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I concur with my learned colleague at the bar.

(You know, the one down there drinking some scary mixture of liqueur, schnapps, and hot sauce.)

The case of the (allegedly) Purloined Helmet counts neither to the 2010 nor the 2011 standings because it occurred during the football season and, therefore, out of Fulmer Cup season. An argument could be made that it is the time of the alleged criminal offense and not the time of the arrest that should count when determining eligibility, but I believe there is precedent that indicates otherwise. If the need arises and for a discounted hourly rate (with payment of a reasonable retainer, of course), I’d be happy to brief the matter if it comes to that.

by NCT on Sep 3, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Has to be 2010 or nothing

Given the two month plus “investigation”, if it allowed to stand in 2011 it might open up future manipulations by PDs everywhere to impact the outcomes. (“We’ll drag this one out a little longer since State U might need it next year”). I’d hate for the Classic City authorities to have that power.

by TerryDawg on Sep 3, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Re: liqueur, schnapps and hot sauce

24 hours ago everyone thought I was just weird. Now they know that I’m psychic. I was preloading for a day like today.

by MaconDawg on Sep 3, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions

I believe points are only accumulated

From the moment the MNC game ends until 11:59 of the night preceding the first kickoff of the new season. So anything during the season wouldn’t count for 11. If anything, this would be added to 10 but do we even really need to?

by knowshon loves legos on Sep 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions

I think it counts as 2010

And Alec was just playing to the whistle. He didn’t want to let anything get by him.

We are already seeing an improvement in the defense under Coaches Lakatos and Grantham.

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by Corbindawg on Sep 3, 2010 3:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

EDSBS says counting ended Sept 1 ar 1:34 pm

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/9/1/1663448/the-fulmer-cup-season-closes-and

To use the parlance of the insurance industry, it DOES matter if Fulmer Cup is a “claims made” or an “occurances” contest – unless it is ONLY an offseason contest.

BUT then as explained by Kyle – this was offseason… just not clear which one.

by Blogger who came in from the cold on Sep 3, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions