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Obscure AD Candidates List

Just over a week ago, we were celebrating the rollout of SB Nation Atlanta and learning why our own personal pessimist was reversing his position.  Then came the now infamous Red Panty Affair.  We’ve pondered whether or not it was those events qualify as All-Time Stupidest, we’ve considered who could play us in Dawgsports The Movie, we’ve learned a little something about UGA Basketball, and we’ve been encouraged to seek solace in the voice of the institution we hold so dear.  Now that the resignation is official, we’re back in familiar territory with a vacancy in the Athletic Department, which leaves us all wondering who will be chosen to lead Georgia Athletics for the foreseeable future. 

 

A few names seem to pop up on everyone’s list, Suzanne Yoculan, Carla Williams and Greg McGarity.  I’m not suggesting these aren’t perfectly good candidates, and one of them may well be the next chosen one, though I have my doubts about Suzanne’s candidacy.  However, the few recent openings in Georgia Athletics have been filled by candidates we didn’t exactly think of right off.  Todd Grantham and Scott Lakatos weren’t on anyone’s short list in the blogosphere that I recall.  (Does anyone else have a habit of calling Lakatos LaTacos or is it just me?)  I’m not even sure Mark Fox was on anyone’s radar at the time he was hired.  So I decided to look outside the popular candidates and come up with my very own personal AD Candidates list. 

 

All candidates are in fact Bulldogs, which as far as I’m concerned is pretty much a requirement for the position, whether the official opening says so or not.  They may not be names you recognize and you may not even realize they are Bulldogs, but I think any one of them would serve us well and make us proud.  I present to you my personal candidates and a short description of why I think each of them would make the Bulldog Nation proud if they were chosen to be our next AD.  Following the list, you can vote in my poll for your favorite.  Feel free to add to or challenge any of my candidates in the comments section.

 

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Bob McTeer

 

Dr. Robert D. McTeer knows how to run things.  Things like oh, the Texas A&M University system where he was Chancellor from 2004 to 2006.  He understands interesting concepts like economics, which he has both a BBA and PhD from UGA in.  He’s a Distinguished Alumnus from the Terry College of Business.  He’s known for not being afraid of disagreeing with the majority.  During his 36 year career with the Federal Reserve System, he gained the nickname “The Lonesome Dove” for disagreeing with Alan Greenspan.  As President of the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank, his views and support of free-market/free-trade gave the Dallas Fed the nickname “The Free-Enterprise Fed.”  He’s a smart cookie and he knows how to handle money.  On his website he has a list of “McTeer’s Management Maxims” which include all of the following:

            Keep expectations high and overhead low

            It’s no great accomplishment to spend other people’s money

            Read the reports

            Hire people smarter than you

            Don’t expect people to take your advice and ignore your example

Ok, so he may not know sports as well as the other candidates, but I’d say those are fabulous maxims for the Athletic Director of our storied institution to hold.  Think we can get him to leave Texas and that fancy sounding “Distinguished Fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis” job he’s got in Dallas to come home to UGA?

 

 

Jack Rives

 

Lt. Commander Jack L. Rives (USAF Ret.) is currently the Executive Director and COO for the American Bar Association.  He retired from the Air Force just this year after a 33 year long career in the JAG Corps.  Jack grew up in Rockmart, GA and earned both a BA in Political Science and his Juris Doctorate from our beloved institution.  During his 33 year Air Force career he worked his way up from Assistant Staff Judge Advocate to “The Judge Advocate General.”  This final promotion came when his predecessor was relieved of his duties “during an investigation into his relationships with female subordinates.”  In other words, he took over an office during a scandal, so he’s familiar with this kind of situation.  Partly because of the scandal, Rives got the chance to restructure the JAG Corps, and as part of that effort he helped develop the current guiding principles, “Wisdom, Valor and Justice.”  I’ll grant you that Mr. Rives has no sports background, but we don’t need him to play any of the sports, we need him to manage the money and the politics and behave himself. Besides, I believe those same guiding principles will work nicely at the Athletic Association.  Since Lewis taught us all how horrible it is to be forced to live and work in Chicago, (headquarters of the ABA), perhaps it wouldn’t take too much effort to convince the Lt. Commander that he should quickly get back to Georgia and nail his own feet to the ground.

 

 

Billy Payne

 

William P. Payne is currently the Chairman of The Augusta National Golf Club and has been since 2006.  Y’all probably remember Billy as the former President and CEO for the Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games.  Seems Billy likes sports and knows a little something about managing sporting events.  Like Jack Rives, Billy holds a BA in Political Science and a Juris Doctorate both earned at our great institution.  Now I know there was some criticism of Billy during the 1996 Olympic games, but that’s long past us now.  While he’s been Chairman at Augusta, he’s made a few changes, including a new contract with ESPN.  That might be useful in future tv contract negotiations.  But more importantly, just before the 2010 Masters Tournament, Billy Payne publicly called out Tiger Woods for failing as a role model.  He was the first “important member of the golf community” to criticize Tiger for his behavior.  Further, neither Payne nor his predecessor Hootie Johnson had ever commented on the off-court behavior of a golfer.  The quote from his opening speech - “He forgot in the process to remember that with fame and fortune comes responsibility, not invisibility.”  I’m still sad Damon Evans didn’t remember this, but I’d bet money that Billy Payne does.

 

 

Sonny Shroyer

 

Otis B. “Sonny” Shroyer Jr., first attended Florida State University on a football scholarship, but due to a career ending injury, left football and FSU and came home to earn his business degree at our beloved institution.  So here’s a candidate that actually played football, and has a business degree from UGA, what more could you possibly want?  Now right about this point, y’all are probably scratching your heads trying to figure out who Sonny Shroyer is, and what corner of obscurity I dragged him out of.  That is, unless of course you happen to be a tv/movie trivia buff, in which case you know that I am referring to none other than Deputy Sheriff Enos Strate, or at least the actor who portrayed the Deputy Sheriff (as well as Bear Bryant in Forrest Gump.).  While most of The Dukes of Hazzard characters were based on Jerry Rushing & folks he knew, the character Enos Strate was actually been based on Sonny Shroyer, at least according to the series creator, Gy Waldron.  Now I don’t know about y’all, but I am pretty much dead certain that Deputy Sheriff Enos Strate would never be driving while intoxicated down Roswell Road at nearly midnight on a school night with his mistress in the passenger seat and her red panties in his lap.  Sonny’s still acting, but when he’s neither acting nor making appearances, he lives at home, in Valdosta with his first & only wife Paula.

Poll
Choose your favorite of my Obscure AD Candidates List
Dr. Bob McTeer
14 votes
Lt. Commander Jack Rives
21 votes
Billy Payne
87 votes
Sonny Shroyer
10 votes

132 votes | Poll has closed

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Very interesting list.

I chose William Porter Payne, but all 4 of those people are very intriguing options.

by vineyarddawg on Jul 6, 2010 2:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Well done.

I agree with vineyarddawg that all of these options are intriguing, although I wonder whether Billy Payne would be willing to take the pay cut.

Kudos to you, podunkdawg, for explaining your choices for the uninitiated, but, if anyone actually needed reminding who Sonny Shroyer is, they should be ashamed of themselves. The instant I saw his name, I pictured him saying, “Football?!” to Burt Reynolds before hurling bales of hay from the bed of a truck to the second story of a barn in “The Longest Yard.” (The original, not that crummy Adam Sandler remake.)

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 6, 2010 7:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Brother Rives!

If for no other reason, I’m intrigued by the idea of Jack Rives because we both took an oath of lifelong allegiance to one another as brothers. This is a great list, podunkdawg.

by NCT on Jul 6, 2010 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Fair enough, but if that's a qualification . . .

then I want Dean Smith and Sal Bando as co-directors.

Great work podunkdog. I think the thing that’s most intriguing about this list is that these individuals, while obscure to many fans, are far from obscure in the world of business in general, and sports business in particular. This should stand as further proof that the University of Georgia has turned out some of our nation’s finest.

While I have sworn allegiance to Brother Shroyer in much the same way NCT has to Major General Rives, I am not certain my fellow’s qualifications will get him an interview with Michael Adams. Like Kyle, I cannot imagine Brother Payne (to whom I have also sworn fraternal allegiance) leaving his current post unless pulled by a strong desire to help his alma mater (and the alma mater of his father and his father before him). But if we want gravitas in the position, Billy Payne would be the acme of it. I have trouble however imagining Michael Adams being comfortable with so formidable an alumnus in the position of Athletic Director. Billy Payne does not need Michael Adams’ patronage, and Adams knows this.

Dr. McTeer’s qualifications are also stellar, especially for a Sigma Chi. Sorry, couldn’t help it. Old habits die hard.

by MaconDawg on Jul 6, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny.

A doctor’s name came up in connection with a case I’ve got. The name sounded familiar. The first things that popped into my head was “Hey, I went to school with him.” The second thing was “He’s a Sigma Nu.” I laughed out loud at myself.

by NCT on Jul 6, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Payne among those spearheading...

the move against Adams during the fall out over Dooley? My memory may be faulty, but I recall him as a Regent or Foundation member and being among the primary people behind the audit, etc. I think that would take him out. Plus the idea of Adams wanting to control the AD, and none of these seem to fit that description.

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 6, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Principled Folks

are rarely controllable and all of these candidates seemed to me to be men of principles.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 6, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I voted McTeer

business/finance experience at a high level, familiar with how a major university operates and dealing with the nature of that beast from alumni to media, etc. But is age a factor (in that Adams would want someone both younger for control and potential longevity)?

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 6, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, there you go, then...

… all of them have exactly zero chance of being hired by Michael Adams. :-)

by vineyarddawg on Jul 6, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

My personal choice of the 4

is Sonny Shroyer. Now I don’t have any fraternal allegiances or sorority allegiances either, but I do have long standing memories of watching The Dukes of Hazzard whilst curled up in my dear dear grandpa’s lap.
Aside from the fact that all my candidates are Bulldogs, they also each have in one form or another made public statements or actions that indicate to me that not one of them would bring embarrassment to the University, it’s traditions, staff or fans.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 6, 2010 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Please remember....

that if you can substitute the phrase “it is” correctly for “it’s”, then you have chosen correctly. If you meant to say….“not one of them would bring embarrassment to the University, it is traditions, staff or fans”…then I apologize. If you meant the traditions, staff or fans belonging to the University, then the correct word is “its”. Now back to your regularly scheduled blog :)

by squillian on Jul 7, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sisters are a real big

pain in the rear, especially when they are also teachers.

Y’all – meet my sister…………

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 7, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least your mother never corrected the grammar...

of the drive thru lady at McDonald’s. Gotta love teachers.

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 7, 2010 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's funny!

Also, nice list. I’m just now catching up on things…and voted Lt. (abbrv. are easier, aren’t they) Rives, FWIW. Of all your candidates, he’s the most anti-Damon on the list in my mind…not a bad thing right now.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jul 7, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Your sibling corrected your post’s grammar on a blog you frequent! Oh, the horror! Trust me: it could be worse.

by NCT on Jul 7, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

And don't forget

she had to go to the trouble of joining the blog to do it!

I’m just thinking it was a good thing I saw her post before anyone else told her to quit being a troll and go away :)

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 7, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding McTeer

I believe the back cover of Behind the Hedges by Rich Whitt has a quote by Bob McTeer on Vince Dooley. I’m paraphrasing, but it says something to the effect of “College athletics are very high profile and a University lucky enough to have someone like Vince Dooley or Mike Krzyzewski at the helm should be grateful”.

I don’t see Dr. Adams hiring someone who speaks so fondly of his arch-nemesis.

by sugar hill dawg on Jul 6, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

The more I think of it the more I think . . .

someone should start a William Porter Payne for Athletic Director facebook page. It won’t happen, but I think it would be nice to at least force Il Duce to address him (or any of these other folks) as candidates and have to come up with a logical reason for dismissing them.

If he addresses serious candidates and they turn down the job or exhibit serious flaws, then so be it. But if Adams is merely going to appoint some stooge who’ll do his bidding, I think it should be crystal clear to all the world that that is precisely what happened.

by MaconDawg on Jul 6, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, I could take these candidates really seriously--except for leaving out Bill Goldberg!

Bob McTeer? Jack Rivers?? Sonny Shroyer??? Billy Payne, well, yeah, that’s more of a fit. I cannot imagine, though, that they will hire someone with no familiarity with the NCAA or college athletics.

How about a real darkhorse candidate, like, say Jack Bauerle?

by rbubp on Jul 6, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

No chance

I mean that as literally as possible. There is no chance of Jack Bauerle being the next AD. Even if offered, Coach Bauerle would turn it down. I know you listed that as a “real darkhorse”, but I just wanted to make sure everybody is clear. This will not be happening.

by SG Standard on Jul 6, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm not someone even remotely in the know

—but you’ve piqued my curiosity about why your statement is so emphatic.

by rbubp on Jul 6, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because the nature of an AD is such that...

active coaches can’t really wear both hats. It’s as likely as Richt becoming AD.

by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 6, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

The athletic directorship is no longer a perk offered to the head coach of a school’s most important sport; it is a separate and important post to be filled by a trained professional. As podunkdawg has demonstrated, that trained professional may come from a field other than athletic administration, but this is a job unto itself, not a sideline to a coach’s livelihood. The world has turned multiple times since Vince Dooley became athletic director in 1979.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 7, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's nothing scandalous

It’s just that I know Coach Bauerle’s least favorite part of coaching is dealing with administrative stuff. He is a swim coach, through and through. That is all he wants to do.

by SG Standard on Jul 6, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bauerle's on the SC

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5358276

So yes, that pretty much eliminates him, just as you predicted, SG.

by rbubp on Jul 6, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the link, rbubp.

It’s interesting that Carla Williams was asked to serve on the search committee, and that she accepted the offer.

While I’m sure Frank Crumley will do a fine job as the interim athletic director, I hope he doesn’t get the post full-time. Much as NCT’s support for Damon Evans waned in the wake of his “now I have to lay in it” remark, my ability to back Crumley is hampered by his use of “normalcy.” Employing Warren G. Harding’s incoherent bastardization of “normality” is no way to begin your tenure in a position of responsibility, Frank.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 7, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

The corporate types ...

They speak a different language, Kyle — the kind of language that inspires a blank stare accompanied by a deliberate blink.

Here’s some info on “normalcy”: http://web.archive.org/web/20060618085340/http://randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19990625

by NCT on Jul 7, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's hoping the SC can incentivize the candidate to come on board.

Gawd, I hate the way those cretins invent words when perfectly good ones exist.

by rbubp on Jul 7, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hate to split hairs...

…but as a vet, these are the things that grab my attention. One cannot be a Leiutenant Commander and be, or have been in the Air Force, Army, or Marine Corps. A person can be a Leiutenant Commander and be, or have been in the Navy or Coast Guard. Sorry for the OCD.

by BorisTheBulletDodger on Jul 6, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Completely my error

and my USN background – 14 yrs dependent. His rank is Lt General (I went and double checked.)

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 6, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah ha

That makes sense. Again, my apologies for taking away from the discussion for which the thread was intended.

by BorisTheBulletDodger on Jul 6, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should know better

considering both the background & the fact that I work for a government contractor with a host of retired military folks – army, air force & marines!

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 6, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lieutentant.

(as we’re splitting hairs and all) :)

by rbubp on Jul 6, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoops!

l-i-e-u-t-e-n-a-n-t.

There. That feels better.

by rbubp on Jul 6, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lieutenant

Literally, it means place-holding or placeholder (from French – as in “in lieu of” and “untenable” or “tenacious”). Why the English felt compelled to throw an “f” sound in there (leftenant) is beyond me, unless it’s another purposefully gross mispronunciation of a French word, which is how the English roll. Anyway, a lieutenant is someone who can hold the place of a captain if necessary. At least, that’s how the rank got its name initially.

“Tangere” is latin for “touch”, as in “tangible” or, ahem, “tangent”.

by NCT on Jul 6, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

the french origin

explains why it’s so dad gum difficult to spell! Why must the french be so difficult?

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 6, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Chris Welton

It might be a long shot for us to get him, but we should at least find out if he is interested.

http://www.heliospartners.com/people/welton.asp

by cantonfroggy on Jul 7, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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