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I hope the same can be said for the performance on the field! RT @MrBoykin2: Uga fans, the Saturday video is gonna be the best its ever been

ThinkingBulldog speaks for Bulldog Nation.

I'm glad to hear the scoreboard video is going to be first-rate, but I'm several orders of magnitude more interested in sound fundamentals than I am in inspirational gimmicks.

Go 'Dawgs!

over 1 year ago Beard_47_series_wins_and_42_points_in_2007_tiny T Kyle King 22 comments 0 recs  | 

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Thanks for the clarification.

I have sent a request to be allowed to follow Boykin’s Twitter feed, but I have not yet been approved. My confidence level, which took a nosedive when I read ThinkingBulldog’s message, has been restored to its previous (admittedly already low) level. Much obliged.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 24, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, for what it's worth

I think I started following him before he protected his tweets. And on tweeting in general, I have mixed feelings about following players. Any time one of them mentions going out, it’s all I can do not to respond, “Please be careful; have a designated driver; program cab company numbers in your phone; are you 21? hold your temper; the bratwurst isn’t worth it.” I used to get a little nervous when someone tweeted about being bored in class, but there likely were a few occasions cough-federal income tax-cough when I might have done the same.

by NCT on Jul 24, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey now

don’t even be calling tax class boring!!!! I took 30 extra hours of Tax just to get a fancy schmancy degree!

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 24, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Look, i love Clay and i don’t think he meant any harm, but you need to understand Kyle that last a season many of our athletes on twitter took a lot of rude & downright stupid comments after every bad performance, and not just in lost games. It was embarrassing to say the least. Grown men & women calling out teenagers bc they didn’t play the game the way you liked. As if any of the ones dishing out the criticism were ever good enough to have played D1 ball themselves to know of which they speak…

Everyone has the right to their opinion, fair enough, but you don’t have the right to call out a kid on twitter (of all places) just bc your a fan or even a season ticket holder. Seriously.

And Kyle, there’s a reason why Brandon won’t let you follow him on twitter. Here’s his latest tweet to you & Clay:

“@thinkingbulldog- put my video tweet on his blog? Hah. Ok. Thank you to all the fans who can converse w/ me without criticism.”

Love your blog & your perspective, but please think about what Brandon just said. Think about what you’re doing by encouraging comments that call out players to their faces like this. Last year was last year, let it go. Lets all be mature adults, and respect & encourage players. Get behind them & wish them well. That’s our job. Telling them how to play better & what you expect of them on twitter isn’t. And as Brandon just proved, to them those comments just aren’t welcome. Lets respect that please.

by allyugadawgs on Jul 24, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe I'm confused,

But I don’t recall seeing any regular commenter here encourage anyone to call out players for anything they’ve done. I’ve seen comments lamenting poor decisions by our athletes on and off field, but never anything that could be construed as encouraging others to behave inappropriately. A quick search of “Brandon Boykin” on the blog gives 17 results, and I don’t see negative comments. By and large, I see positive comments. The closest thing to a negative comment is this:

The youth on this team is maddening. Rookie mistakes are killing the ‘Dawgs. Brandon Boykin made a spectacular play on his interception at the goal line, but he caught the ball off-balance and his momentum carried him deeper into the end zone. It was foolish for him to bring the ball out when he should have knelt down, taken the touchback, and given the Red and Black possession at the 20 instead of at the two. Those kinds of youthful blunders are hampering this club on a weekly basis.

This isn’t even really a negative comment, just an observation.
Am I misunderstanding your post?

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 24, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

confused

I think you are confused. Read my statement again. I specifically mentioned twitter, not this blog. Kyle’s post was about a comment made on twitter.

by allyugadawgs on Jul 25, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Confusion

Here is the sentence that confuses me, “Think about what you’re doing by encouraging comments that call out players to their faces like this.” Is there something on twitter that leads you to this statement?

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 25, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you on twitter podunk? If you were last season you’d know to which i was referring. If you weren’t and still are not then i understand your confusion. But as i stated many times (at least 8 in my original post) and then again to you specifically above, this concerns the conversations that take place on twitter, not this blog. Remember, Kyle’s post is about a tweet he saw on twitter. With all due respect, i don’t know how to be more clearer than that. Even my opening statement in the comment read as follows:

“but you need to understand Kyle that last a season many of our athletes on twitter took a lot of rude & downright stupid comments after every bad performance, and not just in lost games. It was embarrassing to say the least. Grown men & women calling out teenagers bc they didn’t play the game the way you liked. As if any of the ones dishing out the criticism were ever good enough to have played D1 ball themselves to know of which they speak… "

by allyugadawgs on Jul 25, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have twitter

I don’t think I’ve ever actually posted on it. The confusion I have is that your statement seems to indicate that Kyle has said something somewhere “to encourage comments that call out players.”
Since I’ve never seen him say anything like that on here, it seems reasonable that he doesn’t do so on twitter. Since we know he wasn’t using twitter last season for anything other than linking to posts here, on what are you basing your statement? Or does your statement refer to twitter posts made by someone other than Kyle, in which case, I’d suggest rewording it to reflect that.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 25, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

This x 100000

Based on Boykin’s tweet, I can only assume he means that the icklebacknay is being replaced with the version of Saturday Night’s Alright that was recorded by The Who.

by SG Standard on Jul 25, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

YES PLEASE.

PRETTY PLEASE.

by get swoll yunel on Jul 25, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly, truly do not understand Brandon Boykin's or allyugadawgs's reaction to my fanshot.

I agreed with ThinkingBulldog that I’m more interested in the quality of the play on the field than I am in the quality of the scoreboard montage. That’s it. That’s all.

I really, truly, genuinely cannot comprehend how anyone thinks I was calling out Brandon Boykin or criticizing any player.

For the record, allyugadawgs, I told you I wasn’t a Twitter guy, but I became more engaged in that medium at your urging.

Some days, writing for a sports weblog looks like the worst damned decision I ever made.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 25, 2010 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm laughing...

Because it’s so funny how anyone can take a simple observation and just get it so bass-ackwards. It’s just an observation, and a valid one at that.

I saw Kiss once. Great production, theatrics, amplification, lighting, and wow factor. My pal thought they were awesome. I thought they were just a bar band in makeup. I think I’m right.

This is the point of this entire dust up. Our team can look great on a well-edited montage. That won’t win you any games (or Grammys). We’ve got to produce on the field. Jeeeeez-Lou-eeeeeeez!

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jul 25, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's why I'm confused

I don’t see how anyone could think you have ever called out Brandon Boykin, and I searched the blog for his name! I even went to your twitter thingy and didn’t see anything there either.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 25, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I personally think

Everyone is just a little jumpy because of an insanely long, hot summer which was bad for Georgia fans in so many ways that I can’t even count them all.

Boykin probably just saw the video, thought it was cool, and tweeted it…. I’m guessing his response was just not knowing why the other stuff was coming up. Conveying tone and intent is not the internet’s strong suit.

And Kyle – (what may) the worst damned decision you’ve ever made is often the best part of my day. Sad for me, I know… but that tells me you have pretty impressive decision making ability.

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Jul 25, 2010 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Unless and until Mr. Boykin says so himself

I have no reason to think he took any offense to your posting anything on your blog, Kyle. I could be mistaken, but it looked obvious to me that his response to ThinkingBulldog (need not to be tweeted) was a good natured agreement with the sentiment (as in, “that goes without saying”). The players know the over-all defensive performance needs to improve. I, for one, elect not to appoint myself spokesman for the team or any individual player. Statements are subject to interpretation, of course, and context always is important. Ally’s comments carry reasonable concerns, though: any of us who has dipped our toes in the waters of certain message boards understand very well that there are crazies among our fans who wouldn’t think twice about “yelling” (via Twitter or any other medium they can get their hands on) unnecessarily hurtful things at our players. Even if no tweet or blog post cited in this discussion is an example of such or an invitation to others to do it (and I think none is), we should be mindful that all of these instantaneous electronic media carry inherent flaws when it comes to expressing intent. But I will reiterate that I found no indication that Mr. Boykin felt attacked. And if someone out there saw this post on your blog or Thinking’s RTed comment and acted inappropriately on it, I didn’t see it, and they did so unreasonably — that’s on them and not on you.

by NCT on Jul 25, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, all of you. It's been a long and lousy weekend, which likely has affected my mood.

I want to be very clear: I am in no way critical of Brandon Boykin. His Twitter feed is protected, and, although I sent a request to be allowed to read his Twitter feed, I have not received the approval to do so. (I read nothing into that fact; it simply is a statement of where matters stand.)

In retrospect, I probably shouldn’t have posted what ThinkingBulldog re-Twittered. (I refuse to use “tweet” as a verb when not referring to conversations involving birds.) To the extent that I thought about it at all (which wasn’t much), I guess I figured that, if it had been re-Twittered, it was public domain and fair game; looking back on it, I probably shouldn’t have repeated a protected Twitter update in a public forum. That was my mistake, which I regret.

I didn’t misunderstand Boykin to be emphasizing video montages at the expense of pregame preparations, and I don’t think I’ve been critical of Boykin as a player. I was simply agreeing with what I took to be ThinkingBulldog’s point. I have not seen the Twitter update allyugadawgs quoted (“@thinkingbulldog- put my video tweet on his blog? Hah. Ok. Thank you to all the fans who can converse w/ me without criticism”), but, if she has quoted it accurately (and I have no reason to doubt that she has), I find it hard to believe that it was not directed at me, which I find troubling, because I believe it means he misunderstood my point.

All of this is to say, NCT, you are right that electronic media are especially susceptible to misinterpretation. I try to be responsive to reasonable constructive criticisms, and allyugadawgs’s earlier comment (which I linked to above) caused me to re-examine my relationship with Twitter. Since then, I have tried to be more active on Twitter: I post comments there that are not directly related to postings here at the weblog; I follow several other people’s Twitter feeds; I sometimes select nuggets of interest from Twitter and post them here as fanshots.

This is, however, the second time this summer that I have linked to and responded to what someone has written on Twitter, only to have it become a much larger deal than I ever imagined when it offended several people I did not intend to offend. I am inclined to believe that my initial inclination regarding Twitter (viz., that it is not a medium conducive to my manner of communicating) was correct. I need to re-evaluate whether I need to be as “engaged” on Twitter as I am, and whether it is beneficial for me to quote here anything I read there.

There was a posting I wrote late last week, which I intended to put up this afternoon. In light of recent events, I doubt whether that posting would be well received, so I will hold off until tomorrow. Please feel free to carry on in the meantime. Thanks again.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 25, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The internet

As most of you know, I raised two boys who are now very young adults (18 -20.) Time and time and time again I said the same things with regard to the internet – if you don’t want the whole world to know about it, don’t put it on the internet. My eldest child in particular felt like I should not read or be aware of or acknowledge in anyway his posts on myspace, facebook and the like. To which I repeatedly responded the same thing – if it’s on the internet, ANYONE can find it. (He also felt like information I learned in that manner should not lead to appropriate punishment because i shouldn’t have been reading his “private internet posts.” I, on the other hand, subscribed to the you are my kid and I will use any means at my disposal to keep you safe regardless of how much you don’t like it theory of parenting.)

I think a whole lot is being read into Brandon’s comment. Just taking the statement on it’s face, it is unclear to whom he directs the “thank you” portion. Since anyone can search this blog for his name (and I have), it would be just as likely that he intended to include this blog and Kyle specifically in the count of fans he can converse with without criticism. The fact is – there is not a single statement on this blog that is really and truly critical of the young man. There is one statement that there was a better way to handle a single play, but even that can not be construed to be any kind of an attack on him.

In nearly every fan base there is an element of crazy people of people who behave inappropriately (some fan bases have more than others), but this blog and its administrators in particular have not done so, and have not encouraged others to do so. They have gone out of their way to be polite even to those who have been impolite, and to consider constructive criticism when offered. Thus, the criticism directed towards the blog & administrators, is in my opinion, unwarranted.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 25, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I'd take the liberty of responding in a separate fan post.

http://www.dawgsports.com/2010/7/25/1587428/aint-we-all-a-pullin-this-tug-o

"We are inclined to believe that if we have watched a football game or a baseball game, we have taken part in it." --John F. Kennedy

by Thinking Bulldog on Jul 25, 2010 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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