The Weekly Recruiting Roundup And Open Comment Thread
You've probably heard by now that reserve redshirt sophomore tailback Dontavious Jackson will be transferring following his arrest on charges of DUI, leaving the scene of an accident, failure to move over, eating a low-fiber breakfast cereal, and a host of other charges.
This story is recruiting-related for a couple of reasons. One, it's yet another reminder that even the most star-studded recruits can flame out due to bad grades, bad injuries, bad decisions, or bad timing. DJax came to Athens as the top tailback in the state out of Heard County, but quickly fell in a depth chart hole due to a broken leg suffered during his senior season. Nagging injuries and the presence of a series of other talented tailbacks then kept him off the field for most of 2009. But while he was not going to start ahead of either Caleb King or Washaun Ealey, it would not have been improbable to see him get some carries this season. We wish him the best.
The other way that this affects recruiting is that it eases some scholaraship pressure. Jackson's exit means that we currently have (as best I can tell using my admittedly limited math skills) 83 scholarship football players headed into 2010. 15 of those are seniors. Therefore, it is a safe bet that Georgia can sign 17 incoming players for the class of 2011. Of course, there are usually a few guys who leave early to turn pro, some more who give up the game because of injuries or lack of playing time, and some who get kicked off the squad because of the old severely sprained cerebellum. We already have 13 players committed for the incoming class, with many of the top players in the state of Georgia keenly interested in the Bulldogs but still uncommitted (at least publicly). In other words, while we hate to lose any young man, we can certainly use his seat at the proverbial training table.
While it might be tempting to think that this helps make our tailback depth chart more attractive, I doubt that's the case case. Washaun Ealey and Caleb King should both be back in 2011 (unless King has an unbelievable season and leaves as a redshirt junior). Carlton Thomas is still in the mix as well. Dontavious Jackson was probably not scaring away the guys we're recruiting at his position, chief among them Carver-Columbus's Isaiah Crowell.
Speaking of Crowell, he's among a boatload of talented players scheduled to be in Athens tomorrow night for the annual Dawg Night elite prospect camp. The list includes almost all of the already committed players for the class of 2011, plus a lot of rising juniors who will much sought after for 2012. Usually this event gives us a good shot of momentum in recruiting, and often results in a commitment or two.
Some guys to keep an eye on include Dallas (St. Mark's) wide receiver Ty Montgomery, Grady wide receiver/cornerback Damian Swann, Jacksonville (Bolles) offensive lineman Nathan Theus (whose brother John also has an offer from Georgia and should be one of the top linemen in the country for 2012), and Tarpon Springs, FL offensive tackle Zach Debell. Swann's attendance is a maybe due to baseball obligations. But I'd put him on the list of guys who could commit at Dawg Night or soon thereafter depending on how things go. Other bigtime prospects scheduled to attend include linebackers Stephone Anthony and Lateek Townsend and defensive tackles Gabe Wright and Chris Mayes, and Tampa (Plant) running back/linebacker James Wilder, Jr.
The Christian LeMay saga is still in process, as LeMay was initially suspended by his school district for 30 days, which sounds like a really long suspension to me unless his particular offense involved firearms, physical violence, academic dishonesty, farm animals or a vuvuzela. If it involved farm animals and a vuvuzela then they should definitely lock him up in Starkville and throw away the key.
LeMay's father says that they are appealing the suspension, but that there is a chance that his son will simply transfer to a private school to play his senior season. Maybe I'm the only one, but I have a bit of a problem with that. To be fair, 30 school days equates to roughly 6-7 weeks of football, which means that LeMay could only come back during the second half of the Butler High Bulldogs' season. And you only get one senior season. But if I were one of his teammates, and that's all it took to get him to hitch up his wagon and walk out on me, I'd think less of him. And while his punishment may or may not be excessive, I don't think LeMay has ever said he didn't break a school rule of some sort. Dumb rules are, nevertheless, rules. It looks like Mr. LeMay is saying that when adversity strikes it is perfectly acceptable to pick up your ball and go to another school. I don't like that precedent.
Feel free to let us all in on your recruiting thoughts and questions in the comments. Until later . . .
Go 'Dawgs!!!
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Only thing we heard was
that LeMay was in some type of sexual activity with another student at the school. It wasnt anything with dope.
That seems to be the general consensus.
Of course there are a lot of degrees of PDA, so that could really mean a lot of different things.
We can go ahead and move that signee number to 18
Because as much as I would love for him to stay, even my mile wide optimism streak knows AJ is going pro.
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard
by RedCrake on Jul 15, 2010 12:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
One of the wild cards in this class . . .
is that there is a larger than usual group of juniors and redshirt sophomores who could leave. A.J. is the obvious example, but Cordy Glenn, Justin Houston, Brandon Boykin, Caleb King, and Deangelo Tyson could all legitimately have the kind of season that convinces them to leave. And as we know, there are a lot of guys who leave when it makes little or no sense to do so.
If I had to guess I would say that this class ends up in the 21-24 range.
I see your point regarding Lemay transferring,
but I’m not sure I entirely agree with it. I have to ask myself what I would do. Thirty days is a long suspension for any sort of thing. The longest I had ever heard of when I was in high school was ten days, and even that was rare. To me, there is more influencing this decision than just football. First, coming back from a thirty day suspension is pretty tough academically. Six weeks out of school is a lot of instruction time to miss. Additionally, I’m sure he’d be missing practice as well, and I don’t think I want our stud recruit coming in after missing half of his football season his senior year. Like I said, I definitely see the cowardice point, but I don’t view it as bailing on his team as much as it is looking out for his own future.
Another view...
…is that, barring something crazy, LeMay is not starting next year in Athens. I bet he redshirts, meaning he has both his senior and redshirt years to prepare. If I were giving the young man advice (and I’m not), I would seriously consider whether an early collision with consequences (even unjust ones) might do better for him than 30 days of football practice. For further reading, see Mettenberger, Zach.
Moreover, if he does play next year, it will alsmot certainly be because something bad has happened to Murray. I think having a QB who has experience with taking over a team mid-season may be a good thing.
Again, I am not saying that he either deserves or does not deserve the suspension. I have no idea. My point is that he has been given a chance to learn the price of loyalty. LeMay will have lots of chances to be good at football, but he may not have this kind of character challenge again.
by first and thom on Jul 15, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're of the opinion that he should just grin and bear it?
Unjust consequences are unjust consequences. This has to do with more than just football. There are academics at stake as well. I’m not sure what his grades currently are, but if a thirty suspension (and loss of classroom time) caused him to be behind on his studies and not make the proper grades to get into Georgia, would you still feel the same way?
by hailtogeorgia on Jul 15, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He will not get behind in his school work...
if he does not transfer. He will be sent to alternative school that is set up for suspended and trouble students. He won’t have to catch up with school work, but he won’t be with his normal teachers until after the suspension and that could be a problem. So I would agree that he “grin and bear it.” If he’s concerned about not practicing his dad can hire a personal coach to work with him. It would probably be cheaper than private school anyway.
wouldnt this be an EXCELLENT OPPURTUNITY
before he is at UGA, to get this young man some counseling and mentoring? He needs to get a clear understanding of what leadership means. This would go much further than a private school. Half a season down time to get his head straight. And he can work out like hell too.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Does he really need counseling and mentoring?
I think all he needs is a simple statement of, “Son, the next time you decide to fool around with a girl, do it in the privacy of your own home instead of at a high school.”
by hailtogeorgia on Jul 15, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Easy now
I didn’t say he should just grin and bear unjust consequences. Of course he shouldn’t. But are the consequences here really unjust? Is there any evidence of it?
I haven’t seen anybody – including LeMay – suggesting that he didn’t do whatever it is he is being punished for doing. The only discussion is whether the punishment is too harsh. And most of the reasons cited for the punishment being too harsh have to do with football, not some new-found concern about scholarship.
If you can show me that he’s innocent or that he’s being unfairly singled out, I’d be happy to change my mind.
And I’ve got no problem with him failing to make the grades as a result of a suspension. His life is about to get turned upside down if he comes to play QB at UGA. A 30-day suspension would be a vacation compared to the stresses that will be placed on his academics when he’s playing college ball.
Besides, as you suggest, you don’t know what his grades are. He should have plenty of time to study if his appeal fails and he has to serve the suspension.
If we treat him differently because he happens to be really good at throwing a football, we’re setting him up for failure.
by first and thom on Jul 15, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not advocating treating him differently because of football.
Thirty days of suspension is apparently the norm for this offense in his county, so no, he’s not being singled out. Personally, I think that the punishment being doled out is unjust (as do the Lemay’s, apparently). I’m not suggesting that he go to a private school, I’m just saying that I can see why he would consider it. Six weeks for getting caught in a compromising position with a girl on school premises is a bit much, in my opinion.
by hailtogeorgia on Jul 15, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I am amazed at how well what he actually did has been kept under wraps. How have the local papers up there not been able to get any more detailed information than they have on this situation. Surely he is the highest profile player in the state this year. How can they not find someone who will divulge what the actual infraction was?
Not claiming we have a right to know by any means. I am just surprised how the “story” has progressed with so little information.
I think it's the nature of the crime.
Everything we’ve heard is that the transgression was something of a sexual nature. Given the fact that it involves a high school girl, I would imagine that the fact that it’s being covered up has as much to do with protecting her reputation as a minor as it does with anything else.
by hailtogeorgia on Jul 15, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Breaking News
CNN is reporting that Tim Tebow just plugged the oil well in the Gulf. From Denver.
And I wouldn’t worry too much about scholarship numbers just yet. It’s only July 15th. That gives us 2½ weekends to pair down those numbers due to drankin’, bad scootering skills, inappropriate or missing middle names, scowling, natural attrition.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
Christian LeMay
Even though I agree with you, that LeMay should stay at his respective school, where do you get off even suggesting that he may have had anything to do with farm animals. I found this irresponsible and repulsive means to have people to post on your blog. However, it is working.
You should be barred for 60 days, your blog pulled as well. Or was it your sister they are referring to? What kind of animal is she?
In MaconDawg's defense . . .
. . . he used the words “if” and “unless,” and, more to the point, he rather clearly was joking.
Having said which, it’s late, so you may have been joking, as well, and I may have missed it. If so, my bad, but I wanted to be sure.
Have a good evening, all.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Jul 15, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
See, this is the reason Kyle is the Mayor.
Instead of a meaured response, I would have just hit the “delete” button, followed by this button:
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I tip my hat to you, sir… you’re far more tolerant than me. Or, maybe I just completely missed the original joke, too.
by vineyarddawg on Jul 16, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
As a side note,
until your comment few, if any of the other comments came from people who don’t regularly post to this blog, so I guess it only worked on you.
And yeah, it was pretty obviously a joke, your comments, not so clear.
"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain
Swann & Wright
I would love to have both of these guys commit this weekend or very soon. Crowell is going to wait until the end because it is pretty evident he wants the attention. Getting Swann and Wright would help keep the Dream Team momentum going while getting some great in-state guys. Especially since, as the AJC like to let us know, we aren’t going to get Tuitt from Tech.
Of course another thing is
That he might automatically fail this semester. I dont know how it works in carolina, but every school system ive been in(and ive been in a few) you take a zero for every assignment you miss during a suspension, tests, or otherwise. I dont think you can pass a class with a zero for every assignment for 6 weeks

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