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Monday Night Dawg Bites: Don't Drink and Drive . . . Seriously! Cut It Out, Already!

Under the circumstances, you could be forgiven for failing to notice this fact, but, believe it or not, I was out of town on vacation last week. You probably couldn’t tell I was away, what with the news of our then-athletic director’s arrest for driving under the influence breaking on the day before I departed, but the Dawg Sports community was called upon to render yeoman’s service in my (nominal) absence, and the response was tremendous. MaconDawg did his usual fine job of holding down the fort, and I am particularly grateful to the many regular commenters who adjusted on the fly and offered timely analysis in the face of changing circumstances; accordingly, my thanks go out to vineyarddawg for grading Damon Evans’s stupidity on a curve, DavetheDawg for adding a welcome note of humor, Mr. Sanchez for turning our attention to a rising men’s basketball program that deserves our support, NCT for reminding us that there is still much to love and admire about the University of Georgia, podunkdawg for thinking outside the box when compiling a list of potential athletic director candidates, skigator93 for providing a thoughtful look at the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, RedCrake for telling us five good things he believes about the Georgia Bulldogs, blackertai for sharing five doubts he has about the 2010 ‘Dawgs, wwcmrd? for defining what it means to be a fan generally, and AuditDawg for describing why he is a fan specifically. It did not escape my attention, and I hope it did not escape yours, that these postings often played off of one another, and that more than one of these guest postings earned a nod as an SB Nation Atlanta editor’s pick, which attests to the strength of the community here. I am much obliged to everyone for doing a great job.

While the Damon Evans situation simply was too big a story for me to ignore for a week or more, I dialed back my online presence after Wednesday night’s Rays-Red Sox game because Thursday was my family’s and my last day at the beach, after which we left Sarasota in the wee hours of Friday morning, bound for a short stay in Valdosta that included two days at Wild Adventures, with an evening in between spent with my extended family at my first cousin’s 50th birthday party. We arrived home late Saturday evening, and I spent Sunday recuperating before returning to the office this morning. Consequently, I have been incommunicado, albeit not out of touch altogether. This puts me in much the same posture as Inigo Montoya in "The Princess Bride" (e.g., there is time to sum up, but not to explain), so here are a few observations ere we get back to our regular schedule and begin preparing in earnest for football season:

  • I do not bear LeBron James any ill will, but neither do I care where he plays his professional basketball.

  • Judging by the team apparel I saw at the theme park, fans of the Florida Gators outnumbered members of the Georgia faithful at Wild Adventures on Friday, while there were vastly more Bulldog fans than Gator fans there on Saturday. This probably means that Floridians choose Valdosta as a vacation destination and Georgians opt for it as a weekend stopover, but I prefer to believe it means that Red and Black boosters have jobs.

Star-divide

  • While on vacation, I didn’t get as much reading done as I would have liked, but I finally finished Barbara Strauch’s The Secret Life of the Grown-Up Brain: The Surprising Talents of the Middle-Aged Mind. The book did little to assuage my growing concerns about my declining mental sharpness---it did not help that, during our trip, I suffered a pair of glaring memory lapses within a 24-hour period when I could not immediately recall the names either of the plaintiff from the court case that established the rule of proximate cause (Helen Palsgraf) or of the Bulldogs’ starting tailback from the 1980 season opener against Tennessee (Donnie McMickens)---but Strauch’s volume did offer this hopeful passage:

    Along the way, we might as well try to enjoy ourselves, too, because our moods are also surprisingly important to our brains. Boxes of studies have found that people who are less grumpy, less lonely, happily married, or otherwise entwined with their fellow human beings or even their pet beagle have a lower risk of developing heart disease or Alzheimer’s, a better chance at staying mentally alert, and a greater likelihood of a long life. One recent study in England found that people in middle age who simply popped down the street to their neighborhood pub on a regular basis had better cognitive skills than their sit-at-home neighbors.


    Of course, I read that to mean that, since I generally have a pretty dour outlook on life, my conviction that everything will go badly probably means that I inadvertently am making matters even worse, but, for those of you inclined to look on the bright side, the foregoing excerpt ought to cause you to feel more upbeat, particularly as it regards the prospects for our upcoming October 2 shindig.

  • This is an aesthetic statement, not a political one, and certainly not a politically correct one, so I’m just going to throw this out there and let you do with it what you will: as evidenced by this photograph, the American flag is the best flag to incorporate into a bikini top (even if the stripes inexplicably are running the wrong way). However, it is equally true that the Confederate battle flag is the best flag to incorporate into a bikini bottom. Again, that’s not a political statement---heck, my co-author is using the word "Reconstruction" favorably---but trust me on this one.

  • It was Senator Blutarsky who called my attention to this piece by Phil Steele, but it warrants amplification that, over the course of the decade from 2000 to 2009, Georgia had the SEC’s third-most conference championships (two, behind Florida’s and LSU’s three apiece) and division championships (tied with Tennessee at three each, behind Florida’s and LSU’s four apiece), second-best winning percentage (tied with LSU at .688), most bowl appearances (tied with Florida and LSU at ten each), most bowl wins (eight), most AP top ten finishes (tied with Florida and LSU at five apiece), and most AP top 25 finishes (nine). We sometimes forget this (largely because the Bulldogs are tied for last in national championships with zero), but Georgia actually has a pretty good football program.

  • All right, so. Dontavius Jackson and Tavarres King. Yeah. King (no relation) will sit out at least the season opener, per University policy, and Jackson will miss half of the Bulldogs’ regular slate, with both players potentially facing more stringent penalties as further facts come to light. How the Damon Evans fiasco wasn’t a metaphorical two-by-four upside the heads of all 85 scholarship football players in the Classic City, I have no idea, but there you have it. I think it’s ridiculous that King is old enough to vote, marry without his parents’ permission, and be compelled under penalty of law to register for the draft, yet he isn’t old enough to have an alcoholic beverage in his possession, but I’m on the same page with Potter Stewart: uncommonly silly laws are still laws. Tavarres knew that, so he should have known better than to do this.

    Much as Michael Lemon wasted all the goodwill arising from his family situation by getting his name in the paper in a bad way later, Jackson has squandered much of his positive reputation as a peacemaker by doing something so stupid at a time when the consequences were so clear. Since I presume that Tavarres’s underdrawers were not in Dontavius’s lap, why didn’t he call a cab?

    This kind of behavior is unbelievably dumb, which is what makes it so maddening . . . particularly when it results in such outsized claims as these: "[S]hould we call it the University of Oregon-Athens? . . . This is really reaching Fulmer or Holtz levels of criminality here. Really, the question at this point seems to be less one of whether they'll win the Fulmer Cup -- though that could change depending on whether Tennessee players really live up to their potential by driving a tank through downtown Knoxville, with players riding on the vehicle firing celebratory gunfire into the air -- and a more an issue of whether they'll lap the field."

    I don’t want to come down too hard on C&F for those characterizations, since he’s been politely deferential to me lately and his "Sprints" roundups unabashedly exaggerate for the sake of humor. Nevertheless, I believe it is fair to say that any such broadsides against the Bulldogs need to be leavened with a good faith attempt to tell the full story. Take it away, Dr. Saturday:

    The margin of error for the seemingly endless stream of alcohol-related offenses at Georgia is even slimmer after the rapid fall of athletic Damon Evans earlier this month, and Dontavius Jackson and Tavarres King are the first to feel the brunt of the crackdown. Jackson, a backup running back, has been suspended for at least six games, one for each charge he obtained (driving under the influence of alcohol, underage possession of alcohol, following too closely, leaving the scene of an accident, violation of the move-over law and violation of learner's permit) during a DUI arrest early Saturday morning. (Why a 20-year-old college junior was driving on a learner's permit is the mystery.) King, 19, will miss at least the season opener against Louisiana-Lafayette for getting dinged with underage possession, per athletic department policy.

    It could be worse: Like Evans, quarterback Zach Mettenberger and linebacker Montez Robinson were both given their walking papers following alcohol-related offenses in the spring, though in their cases the drankin' rap was exacerbated by charges of sexual assault and domestic violence, respectively.


    Precisely. There undeniably have been problems---multiple problems, several of which were very serious---but there also invariably have been efforts to address those problems. The Georgia athletics program certainly hasn’t underreacted to any of these situations. Mettenberger was suspended immediately and booted from the team as soon as the facts came to light. Robinson’s departure followed a similar course, with a two-game suspension accompanying the first incident and dismissal from the squad following the second. Evans’s indiscretion occurred while Michael Adams was on vacation, and the full details of the arrest were not made known until the Friday of a holiday weekend, yet the former athletic director’s office was cleared out within a week of the incident. As Doug Gillett notes, Mark Richt’s reaction to the situation with Jackson and King suggests that the SEC’s toughest alcohol policy is getting even tougher. There is no comparison between Mark Richt, who can be patriarchal as well as paternal, and Lou Holtz, who was a repugnant coach before he was an avuncular announcer.

    With the arguable exception of Tavarres King (who ought to have known better than to get in a vehicle driven by someone he knew had been drinking), none of this falls under the heading of "boys will be boys." In Evans’s case, it clearly involves misbehavior by a man, and, since everyone involved in these incidents was a legal adult, I would contend that it all involves misbehavior by men. Assault and drunk driving are serious offenses that should not be minimized, cannot be excused, ought not to occur, and must not be tolerated.

    It should be noted, therefore, that such incidents are not being tolerated. People are making bad decisions---horrible decisions; decisions that threaten life, limb, and property; decisions that are illegal and morally wrong---but they are suffering the consequences. What more can be done? What about the situations into which Damon Evans, Dontavius Jackson, Tavarres King, Zach Mettenberger, and Montez Robinson chose to place themselves ought to have prompted a different institutional response from the University? Other than outlawing the consumption of alcohol in Athens (a policy prescription with a dubious track record of success), what preventive or punitive measures can the University adopt to address such incidents which have not already been imposed?

    Once again, I do not wish to oversell the point; C&F summarized the news in a nonpartisan fashion and offered witty observations in his usual manner, so I don’t want to make a federal case out of what were cracks rather than attacks. Even so, though, I feel obliged to point out to the critics that punishments are being levied which are, at the very least, commensurate with the wrongdoers’ actions. Yes, we’re racking up Fulmer Cup points (although, far from lapping the field, we’re tied for fourth with Louisiana-Lafayette) . . . and those points are causing the perpetrators to be sent packing. Those who dishonor the oval "G" are being stripped of their right to wear it as representatives of the University of Georgia, oftentimes permanently. It is fair to criticize those who run afoul of the law for their transgressions, particularly when those misdeeds cause or recklessly risk causing harm to innocent bystanders. It is unfair to charge a program with lawlessness when those in power are laying down the law.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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"bound for a short stay in Valdosta"

Why so short? Were you banned from Valdosta? :)

In all seriousness, welcome back.

by MaconDawg on Jul 12, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Had I been so inclined, I could have gotten myself banned from Valdosta . . .

. . . by pointing out that, if they’re going to allow Ohioans to sing in the country music show at Wild Adventures, they should teach said Ohioans to leave the G’s off the ends of certain words. The rhyme scheme of “Rhinestone Cowboy” is ruined when the singer overenunciates: “There’s been a load of compromising on the road to my horizon.”

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 12, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, Gators:


(What, too soon?)

Also, your contention that the rebel flag excels in its use as a bikini bottom is useless without pictures.

by vineyarddawg on Jul 12, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

And, of course...

… I echo MaconDawg in welcoming you back. Glad to hear you had a good vacation.

by vineyarddawg on Jul 12, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

In my defense, I was riding an inner tube around a circular “river” with my wife, my seven-year-old, and my two-year-old when I spotted said bikini bottoms. I wasn’t exactly in a position to snap a picture, even had I been in possession of a camera, which I was not.

I have faith in you, though, vineyarddawg. You’ve seen the Confederate battle flag. You’ve seen an adult woman in a bikini. You can extrapolate.

I’m telling you, an opportunity was missed in the “Dukes of Hazzard” movie.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 12, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here ya go......

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 12, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was viewing this

Via my iPhone and expanded the pic to get a bit more “clarity.”. My wife just karate chopped me in the side of the neck.

Next time please just post a plate of brownies. Ow.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jul 12, 2010 11:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i was looking at this (again) thinking similar thoughts - like, dont do that again

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

dear lord

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

For those whose imaginations aren't as vivid as mine...

… i believe this is the example to which the Mayor was referring:

by vineyarddawg on Jul 13, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I may have steered the conversation in a most inappropriate direction.

Dave, when you expand the picture vineyarddawg just posted, be sure to let me know whether the “tramp stamp” on the gal on the left is the Lynyrd Skynyrd logo.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry if I made the thread NSFDTD (Not Safe For DavetheDawg).

by vineyarddawg on Jul 13, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

After careful photographic analysis

Using my newly acquired state-of-the-art photo imagery tools which I will no doubt utilize once filming begins on “Dawgsports: The Movie”, I have determined this to be nothing more than an inocuous butterfly. More specificially, it’s a monarchus medneckicus

Gotta go…the wife’s home.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jul 13, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

shoot...

that should read monarchus redneckicus. I swear, I’d screw up a 1 bulb Christmas tree.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jul 13, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

she likes butterflies

Cause she’s into nature …. and stuff. Also, I’m sure there’s a pollination joke in there somewhere.

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Jul 13, 2010 8:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You're overthinking this one, RedCrake.

The only allowable caption is: “The South will rise again!”

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

And this may be hard to believe, but I actually have the capacity to refrain from typing everything that pops into my head.

by NCT on Jul 14, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle's fashion sense is spot on. . .

. . . but by my count that’s at least three, maybe four battle flags, podunkdawg. :)

by College Buddy on Jul 12, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

It's the fourth one, incidentally . . .

. . . that elicited my rave review.

In any event, though, thanks, podunkdawg.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 12, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you

Schedule next year’s vacation in June, or August? I brought this up over at RockyTopTalk, but I seriously think we need to get some sort of petition going to totally eliminate July from the calendar.

Welcome back!

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Jul 12, 2010 11:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm all for expunging July, and August, too.

Dadgum self-aggrandizing Roman emperors and their darned calendar fiddling.

Turning September into the ninth month, October into the tenth month, November into the eleventh month, and December into the twelfth month? Hello?!?! What, did these folks learn to count at a Big Ten institution or something?

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle, I am feel stupid

i never realized or heard that. lol. thats actually funny.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto

Leaving insightful football commentary and analysis to other people since 2006.

by wwcmrd? on Jul 13, 2010 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

The calendar used to make sense . . .

. . . until the emperors Julius Caesar and Augustus added extraneous months and named them after themselves.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, there's making sense, and then there's making sense.

The clock used to make sense, too, when there always were exactly 12 hours of night and 12 hours of day, but the length of hours varied according to the time of year. And actually, I think July and August had been Quintilis and Sextilis before being renamed. It was the tacking on of January and February several hundred years earlier that threw the numbering out of whack.

by NCT on Jul 13, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

My bad.

I knew I was oversimplifying. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

On Jackson and King

Besides the alcohol, we have yet another situation where a player doesn’t have a full up drivers license. I am simply astounded that somebody somewhere can’t ask the players for the license and insurance and create a database. And I think you could do it legally by saying if you drive/park on campus you are required to show it.

And Kyle I agree with you, although we are looking horrible, the people involved are handled without media fanfare, very quickly, and with harsh punishment. There isn’t much more Adams or Richt can do. EXCEPT:

It seems it would be possible for the players to get extensive briefs on the laws and the penalities. Maybe even monthly. Continually reminded of their positions as student athletes and they have to live up to it. It seems in some of these cases the players (or Evans for sure) think they are above it all.

I brought up the idea of the Czar of Discipline a while ago and we have all talked about it in its various forms, but I sincerely believe there are some basic things that could be done to at least stem some of the blood flow. It seems someone could work with the police to stop some of the profiling that results in “exiting an alley” and it seems someone could build a data base of the players drivers records, insurance, etc. It seems their is not enough in your face reality that you are a student athlete, you are on a scholarship as a privilidge, not a right.

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2010 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Those are fair points . . .

. . . but I’m pretty sure Mark Richt requires mandatory character education classes, at least for incoming freshmen. That’s not to say that more couldn’t be done, but something like what you are proposing is being done.

What’s so baffling to me is the update that said Branden Smith was in the vehicle but wasn’t arrested because he was determined not to have been drinking. If he was sober, why wasn’t he driving?

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I understand it,

it was a class D license. This is considered a learner’s license, even though it isn’t a learner’s license in the capacity that we often think of it. When Georgia changed several of the driving rules a few years ago, one of them was that after completing 365 days with a traditional learner’s license, a teenager receives a full class D license. This license allows the driver to operate a vehicle without adult supervision, albeit without any passengers who are minors for the first 90 days, as well as not during the hours of midnight to six in the morning until they are 18 (these hours may have changed, but I’m pretty sure that’s still the law). Upon turning 18, the driver is then qualified to receive a full class C license (with all the freedoms it entails). However, the driver must actually go to the DMV and get their license switched to a Class C license in the computer system; they are still technically driving a “learner’s” class D license until they do this. This is why you run into a lot of issues with this (not just with football players). People think that it switches automatically upon turning 18, regardless of what your license says, when it actually does not.

As far as the Branden Smith thing is concerned, I am pleased that he wasn’t drinking, as he’s underage. However, Kyle, we can actually be glad that he wasn’t driving. He was served with a notice of license suspension at the traffic stop by the arresting officer, meaning that he already had a suspended license (something he probably knew). Had he been driving, he would’ve likely been arrested for driving on a suspended license. Is it worse than a DUI for Jackson? No, but it would’ve been another name arrested. However, they might’ve never been pulled over to begin with, had Smith been driving. Who knows?

by hailtogeorgia on Jul 13, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

this just supports my argument even more than some sort of tracking mechanism needs to be in place

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Jul 13, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I hate to say it

I think the guys on College Football Live had it right. The fact is, this isn’t a football problem or even an athletics problem. It’s a problem in our society. It’s a problem that famous (for lack of a better term) athletes are treated in a manner inconsistent with that of the average joe just as it’s a problem that politicians are treated in a similar manner. It’s a problem that alcohol is given such a glorified position in society, associated with success both financial and athletic. It’s not that I am totally against the partaking of alcoholic beverages, but the position it holds in the make believe society of movies and tv, which kids try to emulate, leads to excesses.

by EricBDawg on Jul 13, 2010 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I have been told

a world without beer is a world filled with ugly women but I can’t verify ……………

by JRL on Jul 13, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Being that I'm not a beer guy,

I can tell you that there are some not as lovely women out there, but the advantage is I remember all the spectacular women out there!

by EricBDawg on Jul 13, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it really that it holds a glorified position in society?

To me, it seems much more like the fact that it is held as taboo for young people, rather than being introduced as something that is okay to use, but to respect at the same time. The drinking age in the U.S. is higher than almost (if not all) any other country that allows alcohol consumption.

Think about it: pretty much any other potentially dangerous behavior that is prohibited until a certain age in our society is gradually introduced under the supervision of adults/parents/guardians. To get a driver’s license, one must first have a learner’s license/driver’s ed. To hunt as a child, one must first obtain a hunter’s safety card upon completion of a hunter’s safety course. Why, then, would we take alcohol and say don’t use it until you’re 21 because it’s bad, without teaching any proper, responsible means of consumption? Teaching a child that it’s okay to have a glass of wine or a beer with dinner takes away much of the novelty of alcohol, which in turn inhibits the urge to overindulge.

Having spent a substantial amount of time in another country, I can tell you this: young people around the world are going to overindulge. It’s part of being young. However, the frequency with which you see young people overindulging is much much less. Are there a few who are going to take it too far? Of course, but it’s definitely not going to look like Bourbon St. (in Athens) on a thursday night during power hour.

by hailtogeorgia on Jul 13, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

society is bombarded with a constant stream of nonsense indicating that if it’s fun it’s even more fun if you drink.

Hailtoga you are correct – we have some very misguided rules and regulations most of which make little sense.

by JRL on Jul 13, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with the taboo argument as well.

Being that it’s taboo here is also a problem. I think the two (taboo and glorification) go hand in hand to create the issues we have.

by EricBDawg on Jul 13, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

As an aside...

I think it’s ridiculous that there is now this EA Sports Wallpaper for NCAA 11 showing Tim Tebow on both sides of the website. This is a Georgia blog…come on!

by hailtogeorgia on Jul 13, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I never see ads on here (unless i'm on my iphone)

I use Firefox as a browser and ad-block plus =)

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 13, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bought the game last night

And promptly won the MNC with UGA. But before I did so, I first defaced the cover and disc with a Sharpie (let’s just say there were tears and foreskins involved).

Great game though… despite the coverboy

"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't."
- Lewis Grizzard

by RedCrake on Jul 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It is a test of our faith.

MaconDawg and I are thinking of changing the site name to “Job Sports” (pronounced like the first name of Will Arnett’s “Arrested Development” character, not like the thing from which I am on my lunch break).

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it.

That’s exactly what we’ve become in Bulldog Nation… a collective Job suffering countless trials that take away all we hold dear and cause incredible personal pain and suffering.

That’s a great idea.

by vineyarddawg on Jul 13, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would imply

that we (and by we I mean Kyle & Macondawg) have some level of control over the ads that appear here, which if I understand correctly, they don’t really. They have two options – be part of SBNation & accept whatever ads appear or don’t. But they certainly don’t have veto power over the ads appearing here.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 13, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if this is better or worse...

… than all the ads for women’s thong underwear branded with a Georgia “G” that used to always appear on the site.

I say worse… but then again, I hate Florida more than the average man, and I have no kids to ask, “Hey Daddy, what’s a thong? Can I get one of those?”

by vineyarddawg on Jul 13, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally . . .

. . . I’d rather have the Valentine’s Day K-Y ad back than cartoon Tebow over there on the left-hand side of the page exhorting the Gators like a figure from Norse mythology in a “Mighty Thor” comic book.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jul 13, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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—ronbrown13 (ron brown)

by geor on Jul 13, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahhh, The Tebow, it burns....

Seriously, this is just wrong on so many levels. I know it’s not you, Kyle – but those SB Nation folks – anything to make a buck, right?

by CAJason80 on Jul 13, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

lest we forget

Scholarships that are wasted by
behavior that is considered to be
irresponsible are just that-wasted.
Our athletes need to keep the following
in mind: there are family members
and relatives who have to answer
probing and cruel questions by others
when athletes perform these embarrassing
and often dangerous acts. In these days
of “social networks” and internet outfits
designed to humiliate those in the wrong,
it’s not “what were you thinking”? It’s now,
“Think…durn your hide!” I guess I’m thinking
about all those high school kids I worked
with over the years who got their grades,
kept their noses clean, played sports the
right way, and still…THEY get stuck with the
questions from others too. Let’s quit blaming
society, or environment, or what ever this week’s
problem is. It’s time for everyone who runs the
program at Butts-Mehre to take a really hard look
as to who we have become. Just another factory
where a scholarship gets you no degree and no
appreciation for opportunity? Or can we be THE
University Of Georgia? The flagship land-grant
institution that I was proud to graduate from?
There’s no guarantee that the institution, much
less the athletic program, can continue to survive
utter, rampant obliviousness on anyone’s part.
Make it tougher on stupidity…make it hurt. If you’re
gonna play, you gotta pay. I did what I was
supposed to…and my life is better for it. How about it, you guys?
I’m too old and too tired to believe that we can’t make it the
toughest and best-run program in all of sports. Time for
CMR to step up without fear and do this.

by please before I die, Falcons on Jul 13, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Well I didn't exactly do what I was supposed to

and one of the consequences was that Georgia wasn’t an option for me – too far away and no housing option for a brand new mother & her baby. One of the other consequences was later in life getting a college education while working full time and raising 2 kids all by yourself, btw this is pretty much the definition of suckitude.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Jul 14, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

however...

You got it done…and whether or not
you could be on campus…you are a
Bulldog, tried and true. Proud of you
for doing what needed to be done!
You made a difference by not lying
down and quitting…your kids know it.
I guarantee it. Always remember that
we’re a family! Where’s Munson to make
a stirring speech when ya need him?
Grins as I finish…

by please before I die, Falcons on Jul 14, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you in principle

but I will take exception with the assertion that blaming things on societal pressures is incorrect. I’m not saying it’s OK, just that kids often think that what they see in commercials, movies, and TV is taken as reality for them. They believe they are supposed to do these things because they want to be popular, successful, and accepted into a better life situation, which is exactly what is portrayed in those commercials, movies and TV.

Now to your assertion that being tough is the way to go. In principle, I agree. HOWEVER, there are many people who give lots of money to the University to make sure the athletic program is amongst the best in the nation and quite honestly, don’t really care about the character of the kids being recruited, but they DO care about the projected athletic prowess. Until that changes, which I think is what you are advocating, then college athletics seems to be mired in the same cycle.

Again, I ain’t hatin’ on your post, just wanted to clarify my position.

by EricBDawg on Jul 14, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in agreement

I think you said it quite well, Eric.
Pressures from many different sources
can really influence people, no matter
what age they may be. I guess my irritation
was showing about “society” being used
as a default fallback position when individuals
refuse to take responsibility for their actions.
There were those I worked with in the past
 who pointed to others instead of stepping up,
and they were escorted to the out door.

As for the good old boys with deep pockets…
you’re absolutely right. You are right about the
change on the outside, but also change must
come from within. Whether anyone else in
college athletics makes changes…that’s not
our problem. If we’ll blaze that trail, and make
our oufit smart, aware, and as clean as we can,
we’ll become a part of the solution.
From one Bulldog to another…dang good job!

HIT SOMEBODY!
Dawg Up!

by please before I die, Falcons on Jul 14, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, it appears we are in agreement.

I agree that society is used as a default fallback when some people refuse to take responsibility for their own actions. At some point, people (athletes and non-athletes alike) must realize that you are responsible for you. It’s not someone else’s fault when you make a bad decision.

I’m all for blazing that trail. To be what college athletics are idealized as being, well that’s the ultimate goal of athletics; winning while being real students who graduate and have the degree to propel themselves into being productive members of society in some field they have studied to be the best the possibly can be. If the NFL, NBA, MLB, MLS, or any other sports league happens to come calling for that athlete’s services, then great, but if not, they are still ready to take on the world and make a difference. Tremendous. (Or as they say on those zany beer commercials: BRILLIANT!!!)

by EricBDawg on Jul 14, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Agreement Society

Again, brother, you make cogent and
clear statements. My hat is off to you
once again. Now, how can we clean
out 47 assistant whatevers in Butts-
Mehre (and save money)? Hmmm…
this I must ponder in the Cave Of
Agreement.
BRILLIANT back to you!

HIT SOMEBODY!
Dawg Up!

by please before I die, Falcons on Jul 17, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

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