Five College Football Teams That Won't be as Good as Advertised in 2010
Defense wins championships. That maxim has always been true, and it continues to be so, which is why there are certain teams in which I am disinclined to repose faith as we proceed toward compiling our preseason BlogPoll ballots.
For clarity’s sake, I should point out that I am not saying the following teams all will be bad; some, in fact, should be quite good. None, however, will be as good as the preseason publications are pegging them to be, so, if a team is tabbed at No. 21, it likely will finish outside the top 25, but, if a team is ranked No. 1 in August, if probably will be ranked No. 5 in January.
That caveat having been added, I now present . . . Five Teams That Won’t be as Good as Advertised in 2010:
1. Alabama Crimson Tide: I raised this question before, and, admittedly, I got some good answers, but I don’t care who you are, you can’t just shrug off the loss of nine defensive starters without missing a beat.
2. Arkansas Razorbacks: Everyone rates the Hogs fairly high, and everyone knows deep down that the Hogs are overrated. They’re this year’s Ole Miss. Sure, Arkansas led the SEC in both passing offense and scoring offense . . . but the Razorbacks also finished last in the league in both passing defense and total defense. Even with the nation’s sixth-best turnover margin, the Hogs still surrendered 52 points to Georgia, 35 points to Alabama, 33 points to LSU, 30 points to Ole Miss, and 27 points to Eastern Michigan, for crying out loud.
3. Georgia Bulldogs: The Sporting News knew better than to put the Red and Black in its top 25, but Athlon ranks the ‘Dawgs fifteenth and Lindy’s has the Athenians at No. 21. Look, I think Aaron Murray and Todd Grantham are going to work out in the long term, too, but it’s crazy to think Murray and the 3-4 defense are going to start clicking from the get-go, particularly with a road date looming against the improved and always feisty South Carolina Gamecocks in the second week of the season. We’ll see improvement on the field in 2010, but it won’t translate into a markedly better won-lost record until 2011. If you’re counting on Georgia to do better than 8-4 next fall, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.
4. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets: In two seasons on the Flats, Paul Johnson has proven that his offense can move the ball on ACC teams and Willie Martinez-coached defenses. Even assuming for the sake of argument that those constitute impressive achievements, how, precisely, is the Ramblin’ Wreck going to put together a top 20 season in 2010? The Golden Tornado lost Morgan Burnett and Derrick Morgan off of a defense that ranked seventh in its conference and gave up 24 or more points in five of the Engineers’ last six games. To turn around a unit that finished 54th in the country in total defense, Coach Johnson brought in Al Groh, whose 2010 Virginia Cavaliers finished 52nd in the country in total defense. In 2009, the Jackets went 5-0 in games decided by five or fewer points while posting the ACC’s second-best turnover margin. Surely, at a technical school, they’re familiar with regression to the mean, right?
5. Oklahoma Sooners: Frankly, I’m not getting all the preseason love Bob Stoops’s troops are receiving. I mean, I get it, I guess, but I take OU’s consensus top ten standing a tad personally. After all, the Sooners are getting a mulligan for an 8-5 season in which they lost some close ones and finished strong by winning three of their last four, including their bowl game. It seems to me there’s a certain team in Athens, Ga., that fits that description . . . and, unlike Oklahoma, Georgia (a) didn’t lose four first-round draft choices to the NFL, and (b) doesn’t have Willie Martinez coaching its defensive backs. Surely those two details are worth a couple or three losses, right?
As always, your thoughts upon the foregoing are invited and appreciated. Let me know where I’m on target, and where I’m off base, in the comments below.
Go ‘Dawgs!
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Wow
Hate on Martinez much? The guy’s gone, leave him alone already.
But anyways, a) You’re crazy if you can find 4 losses on Georgia’s schedule this year that doesn’t include Ga. Tech. There’s no way the ball rolls against us that many times again 2 years in a row.. b) A Willie Martinez defense did a pretty decent job against Tech last season. Decent, not great. c) Martinez was coaching defensive backs when all our heavy hitters in the early part of the decade rolled through (You my boy, Blue!), and I don’t remember complaints then.
I'm doing my own season preview...
… as a fan post just as soon as I can figure out how to work, watch the World Cup, and do anything else at all. Having looked closely at the schedule, though, I can quite readily agree with Kyle that 8-4 is a distinct possibility. South Carolina and Arkansas could conspire to cause us to limp to a 2-2 start, and Colorado won’t be the pushover you think they will be, either.
So, the Gamecocks and the Hogs are two losses, and the other two could come courtesy of the following (in order of my opinion of likelihood): Auburn, Florida, Kentucky, Tech, Colorado.
It’s quite possible.
by vineyarddawg on Jun 21, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Really?
“and Colorado won’t be the pushover you think they will be, either.”
Unless you mean, “Because they’ll be TWICE the pushover you think they’ll be,” I’m inclined to disagree. That is a W. Also, I think the Dawgs will come out of the gate hot, and I don’t think 8-4 is overly ambitious at all. UGA benefits from right-sized preseason expectations this year, and that is an enormous advantage. Cheer up, Dawgs! Doom ’n gloom looks much better in maroon and white.
by AgAstraPerAspera on Jun 21, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say we wouldn't lose to Georgia Tech.
I said Georgia Tech wouldn’t be as good as advertised. Neither will we, so we certainly could lose to the Yellow Jackets, although I think South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, and Auburn are the more likely culprits.
No one’s talking about the ball rolling against us; I’m talking about fielding a new quarterback who’s never taken a collegiate snap and fielding an entirely new defensive scheme for which the current crop of players wasn’t recruited.
Take a look at the second-half scoring in last year’s game at Grant Field. Mike Bobo deserves considerable credit for that victory. Wilie Martinez? Not so much.
I will grant that the Peter principle may have gotten the better of Willie, and that he may be better as just a position coach . . . but defensive backs remained his area of position responsibility, and the Bulldogs got worse at that position throughout Coach Martinez’s tenure as defensive coordinator. I don’t wish the man ill, but my criticisms are justified.
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That may have been a function of recruiting
Willie could still be a great position coach but a less than stellar recruiter.
Consider me prime for disappointment
I certainly believe our win-loss record will improve. I am not making reservations for New Orleans, but I do expect games like Tennessee and Kentucky to be reversed. I see no loss to Colorado and that means improvement, no matter what happens in Columbia.
I like our chances against West Opelika and Arkansas.
I understand your desire to lower expectations, but high expectations come with the heritage.
Pessimism comes with the heritage, too.
Can we really be true to the legacy of Wally Butts, Vince Dooley, and Larry Munson while being upbeat?
Go 'Dawgs!
thank you
for mentioning Bama. I know, I know, they are stocked with talent, and Nick Saban blah blah blah….the reality is that they lost a ton of talent on defense, and are still quarterbacked by a somewhat mediocre Greg McElroy. The guy showed some chops in the SEC championship, but he also played poorly at times last year. Bama will be tough to beat, don’t get me wrong, but all of the “dynasty” talk makes me want to vomit. If a Florida team that returned the entire defense and backups, struggled at times and couldn’t live up to the hype, what makes everyone think Bama will. It amazes me how quickly the CFB world can shift it’s crush from one team to another.
I think Bama is going to be tough to beat....again
True, they lost a ton of defense, but they still have the best RB in the league….and quite possibly the best 2 RBs in the league. That helps the offense put together long drives that keeps a young defense off the field.
As far as this:
If a Florida team that returned the entire defense and backups, struggled at times and couldn’t live up to the hype, what makes everyone think Bama will.
Bama will be under similar pressure – where anything short of an undefeated national title basically equating to failure. While that is more than a little unfair, If they can avoid half the distractions that we had last season, they have a fighting chance in my opinion,
Bama
While obviously the favorite, I think they have lots of things working against them…
1. There’s NO WAY they have that same turnover ratio. Regression to the mean is bound to occur on such a volitile stat as turnover margin, which Bama dominated last year
2. The competition is better. Arkansas should be improved. Auburn is likely better. So is LSU. State’s better as well, though the gap is still pretty big there. Only Ole Miss is taking a likely step back, and they still have a tough defense.
3. They lost 10 starters on defense. There’s no way that won’t have an effect. The question is whether they take a small or large step back. They could take a small step and still be great.
4. Title hangover. Everyone says it can’t happen and that Saban is too focused to lose a little bit of his edge, but I’d like to remind you that he followed up his first MNC with an 8-5 campaign. He’s not doomed to do the same thing, but it’s no sure thing he doesn’t lose just a little bit of that edge.
5. Because even 11-1 would be viewed as a failure. See Florida’s title defense. Yes, that is grossly unfair.
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that turnover ratio argument...
has popped up a few times recently and i made a point to take a look at it recently over at RBR. the bottom line seems to be that, yes, it is unlikely alabama will have such an amazingly positive TOR next year but, that said, it’s also unlikely that it will fall to any reciprocal depths next season.
the number one reason is that whatever anyone wants to say against greg mcelroy the fact is he rarely turns over the football. and neither does mark ingram or trent richardson.
the number two reason is the crimson tide’s king beast of turnovers on the defense is one of the guys coming back next season. while he might not repeat as the sec interception leader next year he’s still likely to get his fair share.
so is it a data point in the argument alabama will “underachieve” in the manner t. kyle puts it? certainly. but one should be cautious about basing too much of their argument that the crimson tide will fall short of it’s lofty goals on it.
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Reciprocal depths
I don’t think there’s any chance Bama will sink to reciprocal depths either. Turnovers are essentially random and unpredictable. I’m willing to say Bama will regress to the mean (zero, in the case), but not put up a ratio of -18 or whatever. It’s just that no SEC team has put up back to back seasons with a turnover ratio in double digits. Teams have not demonstrated turnover ratio is a repeatable skill. Bama wasn’t just positivie last year, they were extremely positive in that ratio, and their luck is likely to turn. Even a slide to a turnover ratio of, say, +5, is going to have a negative impact relative to the previous year.
And that’s the key to any evaluation: “relative to last year”. What is a disappointment? For Bama, it’s anything less than a MNC. With goals so high, and rightfully high, it’s even more likely Bama will fall short of them. No one is predicting Bama to go 6-6.
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i'm mostly agreeing with you here...
its just interesting to see what happens when you break down the numbers. the big difference in saban and shula squads when it come to this phase of the game is in terms of preventing turnovers – not extraordinary luck in terms of getting dropped balls to roll our way. this is not something affected by regression to the mean.
the thing scaring the crap out of bama fans right now is the paper thin depth at secondary. mark barron might have another yeoman’s effort in 2010 but it’s not likely the rest of the defense is going to chip in like they did last year. the only other guy who had a pick in 2009 in the 2010 lineup is marcel darius, for chrissakes.
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I know, I was just clarifying...
… that I didn’t think Bama was going to post a huge negative turnover ratio or that I think this team is going to be bad. I think Bama is probably going to go 10-2 which, given the hype and the rightfully high expectations, would be a bit of a disappointment. I still think they are the favorite to win the West, and likely will, I just don’t think they are going to have quite as easy of a time of it just because the rest of the division looks to be better.
And, really, losing so many defensive starters is a huge red flag. The defense can’t be as awesome as it was last year, can it? Please say no, please say no…
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part of me says it has to be impossible...
and then i remember that i thought it was going to be impossible in 2008 as well. what is interesting is the scenario where alabama loses one or two, and then gets into the national championship picture by virtue of a win in the SECCG. the outrage is simply glorious to imagine.
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Bama will be tough to beat, don’t get me wrong, but all of the "dynasty" talk makes me want to vomit.
not quite sure where you heard this “talk” but i’ve yet to hear the d-word come out of the mouth of any bama fan i know. the consensus is we are the team to beat and we like our chances against everyone on the upcoming slate. saban’s very clear on this point, the focus isn’t playing to win a championship – that’s a given for everyone – but rather to play at the best of the team’s ability every single game.
skigator and poseur probably hit the nail on the head. given the national championship and the two year regular season run without a loss in the regular season, the expectation level is through the roof. any loss will be seen as a disappointment (although i don’t think we’d classify it as failure – the shula era wasn’t that long ago).
there are a lot of reasons to believe alabama is going to struggle at points this season. that said, none of these are worse than the concerns expressed about the squad going into the 2008 campaign. and now the experience and depth are there to help take up the slack.
so saying this team won’t be good as advertised is a bit of a canard. it’s the top billing that make the case here, not the fact the team won’t be good. or, to put it another way, there’s good reason to believe alabama will win any given game on the schedule but it is also true to say it’s likely at least one team will find a way to beat the odds over the course of the season.
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You seriously haven't seen this?

Sic 'em Dawgs
by ClassicCityDawg on Jun 21, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
and the same magazine...
said ole miss would win the sec west at the start of last season – even though every reasonable observer of the conference knew it was a ludicrous statement. just because the MSM decrees something doesn’t mean folks who follow the given team take it as holy writ.
for a more reasonable barometer of the “dynasty” talk among the alabama fan base, how about looking though the results of this search on RBR.
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yeah
that major national publication with the word “DYNASTY” on the cover, referencing Bama is part of what I meant. I’m not really talking about the Bama faithful, though they are understandably excited about the coming season, and have lofty expectations. It’s the national media as a whole, and how fickle they can be. Last year, Florida was a shoe in to repeat, meanwhile all of us who actually watched the SEC championship, and more importantly those of us who watched every game Percy played, realized how challenging beating Bama again would be, especially without him. I don’t have any kind of a strong dislike for Bama, as they’re not really a traditional Florida rival, but obviously we really want to see a win in Tuscaloosa, and know how hard that will be. It should be a fun season and I look forward to it. Coming off last season, I now understand how the weight of expectation can leave one disappointed…
honestly
we hate this stuff as well. dynasties are things you establish after the fact. the only sec team with any real claim to being a “dynasty” right now is florida. and the 2009 SECCG doesn’t change that a whit.
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The Arkansas love
Seems totally centered on Ryan Mallett, which to a degree I get, but people should remember that 3,500 yards and 30 touchdowns last season still only netted 8 wins. Improvement in the defense and running game are going to be much more important if they’re going to improve that total.
I'm with Kyle on Arky
Part of it is my true belief that they are overrated, and part of it is my feelings for Petrino and my deep rooted hope for his failure.
AND improvement against good teams
The bulk of his stats came against patsies (Easter Michigan, Troy, SW Missouri St) or weaker pass defenses in the country (UGA, TAMU). Though they were road games, he really struggled against Bama, UF, OM and LSU. In fact the only time he didn’t struggle against a decent pass defense was against Auburn and South Carolina.
And that's the thing
It’s going to take more than JUST him improving.
by Billy Gomila on Jun 21, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
...or is the irrational love for Arkansas
just a complete re-build of last year’s media crush on Ole Miss and “Jevean Snead is awesome!”, except replace Snead with Mallett, and viola! New media meme. I don’t get it.
Aaron Murray
I see no reason to think he can’t be effective with all of the returning talent surrounding him. I’m with you on the new defense though. I expect some improvement on that side, but also some moments of confusion. Still, minor improvement could lead to 10 wins and a top 15 final ranking. And last year’s abysmal turnover ratio has to improve some on luck alone.
There's a couple of serious disclaimers to the 'defense wins championships' thing
If your offense sucks, it doesn’t matter how good your defense is (or, why I think Nebraska is overrated this year, and should have made your list).
And if you have a truly amazing offense and a defense that might not be great but allows few big plays, you can go a long way with that (see both 2005 BCS title game participants, RichRod’s WVU teams, Kelly’s Cinci teams).
You can go a long way with a great offense . . .
. . . but very rarely can you go all the way:
Consider some of the great offensive powerhouses in recent college football history. The 1983 Nebraska Cornhuskers. The 1987 Oklahoma Sooners. The 1995 Florida Gators. The 2003 Oklahoma Sooners. The 2005 U.S.C. Trojans. How did those teams fare in the national championship game?
They lost, either because their offenses were stifled by great defenses (Oklahoma was held to 14 points both in the ‘88 Orange Bowl and in the ’04 Sugar Bowl), their weak defenses couldn’t stop quality offenses (Miami scored 31 points in the ’84 Orange Bowl and Texas scored 41 points in the ’06 Rose Bowl), or both (Nebraska outscored Florida by a 62-24 margin in the ’96 Fiesta Bowl).
Not coincidentally, those programs’ fortunes were improved when the emphasis was on playing top-drawer D. The mighty 1983 Cornhuskers gave up 21 or more points in three of their last four regular season games, giving hints of the troubles that awaited them against Miami in the Orange Bowl. When the Big Red Machine upgraded its speed on defense, though, Nebraska held each of its last seven regular season opponents to 17 or fewer points in 1994 . . . then claimed the national championship with a 24-17 win over the Hurricanes in the Orange Bowl.
The same held true for Florida in 1996, the year after the Gators’ Fiesta Bowl debacle against the aforementioned Cornhuskers. Throughout the Steve Spurrier era in Gainesville, the gunslinger mentality caught up to the Ol’ Ball Coach year in and year out, as his quick-strike offenses produced overworked defenses who came up short in a big way at least once a season.
Florida won nine or more games in each of the Evil Genius’s first six seasons in The Swamp, but his losses were due to defensive lapses almost invariably. The Gators surrendered 45 points apiece to Tennessee and Florida State in 1990, surrendered 38 to Syracuse and 39 to Notre Dame in 1991, surrendered 31 to Tennessee, 30 to Mississippi State, 45 to Florida State, and 28 to Alabama in 1992, surrendered 38 to Auburn and 33 to Florida State in 1993, surrendered 36 to Auburn in 1994, and surrendered 62 to Nebraska in 1995. Along came Bob Stoops, who upgraded the Gator D . . . and, lo and behold, Florida won a national crown.
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2005 USC is a bad example though
… because they lost to an equally offense-centric 2005 Texas team, in a game where both teams scored over 40 points. It’s not like Texas’ D stopped USC.
No, the man that stopped USC's offense in 2005
…was Lane Kiffin.
Georgia Tech's Turnover Margin
In the five games GT won by 5 points or less, they had 8 turnovers and 7 take-aways. Most of the turnover margin was built up on games against UNC ( +3 ), Mississippi St ( +4 ), and Vandy ( +2 ), all teams that GT beat by double digits.
That's a good point . . .
. . . but I was listing two separate advantages, not suggesting that one caused the other. (In fairness, though, I can see how that sentence could be read that way.)
My point was that the percentages disproportionately broke the Yellow Jackets’ way in two key categories, which is unlikely to be repeated. Once again, though, you make a reasonable point, and I appreciate the clarification.
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Hell, fellas...
The fact that we’re not going to be doing any of that directional kicking crap this season has to at least count for 2 wins, IMO.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
So...
… that brings us to 2-10, ensuring that we’ll beat Louisiana-Lafayette and Idaho State. Where are the other 6 wins coming from?
by vineyarddawg on Jun 21, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea...
…but I’m pretty sure we beat Tennessee this year at least another one. Only because they might forfeit. Or not.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
Should say...
‘we will beat Tennessee this year for at least another win.’
I’m obviously still typing impaired ever since I started drinking MaconDawg’s Iced-Tea concoction from a week ago Friday.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
It isn't crazy to think Aaron Murray OR the defense will click
And we only need one of them to in order to improve on 7-5. Do you really think our defense will regress next year? There may not be significant improvement, but will it actually get worse? If they do improve but Murray falters, the talent surrounding him is going to be enough to score enough points to win games.
If the defense does not improve or even regresses, but if our offense clicks like we can reasonably expect it to, they will keep us in every game we play this year.
We don’t need both. We only need one. And “regression to the mean” applies to us, too, so I’d say a non-catastrophic turnover margin is good for at least one more win (8).
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Agreed
All Aaron Murray has to do is avoid being the red-headed interception machine that Cox was, and I honestly don’t see how the defense could do anything but improve. You also have to consider the fact that having a turnover margin is one heck of an anomaly. We should, at the very least, be able to cut that in half just based on the law of averages. I could see the Dawgs going 8-4 this year, but that’s probably on the lowest possible end of expectations. I say 9-3 or (gasp!) 10 to 11 win season if the chips fall right.
Sic 'em Dawgs
by ClassicCityDawg on Jun 21, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed comments on the
stellar officiating of late by the SEC employed ref’s. They’ve won (and lost) games for various teams in the last couple years if my memory serves, and our beloved Bulldogs have never been on the positive side of that equation.
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