Why I Have Been So Fixated Lately on the College Football Rivalry Between the Georgia Bulldogs and the Clemson Tigers
(Author’s Note: There will be no postgame baseball report this evening. My wife and children are out of school this week on spring break, so I am taking a couple of days off to spend with my family and attend to some responsibilities at home. My son and I will be traveling to Clemson, S.C., to see the Diamond Dogs take on the Country Gentlemen in Doug Kingsmore Stadium this evening, so my postgame write-up will not appear until Thursday. This confluence of circumstances, however, presents a unique opportunity to share a significant announcement with the Dawg Sports community.)
Let’s be honest. There have been times in the last year or so that I’ve been mailing it in here at the weblog. You know it, I know it, and the American people know it. While there is no excuse for this, there is an explanation, which most likely will confirm some of your suspicions.
I take pride in the fact that there are many astute readers of this weblog, both among the Bulldog faithful and from opposing fan bases, so surely some of you have asked the question, and more than a few of you probably have answered it. In fact, I’d bet cash money that at least one reader figured it out, but was too polite to say so. (NCT, I’m looking at you.)
Having majored in political science and been a lifelong (if largely self-taught) student of history, I am quite mindful of the heritage of my alma mater’s athletics programs; John Stegeman’s book upon the subject was particularly influential. However, I have been especially attentive to often obscure minutiae in the history of Georgia football of late; moreover, this focus largely has been in chronological order. In 2009, I wrote about the early 20th century in January, the 1940s in March and in May, the 1950s in April, and the 1960s in May.
Beyond that, my concentration on the Bulldogs’ gridiron history has evidenced a particular preoccupation with Clemson. I have regaled you with tales of Floyd "Breezy" Reid’s 1945 kickoff return against the Orange and Purple, Frank Howard’s change of non-conference scheduling practices in the late 1950s, Vince Dooley’s fretting before the 1967 series meeting between the rivals, Coach Dooley’s decisionmaking in the 1977 and 1983 games against Clemson, Kevin Butler’s historic 1984 field goal to beat the Country Gentlemen, the role of the red road britches in the two teams’ 1985 encounter, Danny Ford’s decisionmaking late in the 1986 affray between the Bulldogs and the Tigers, renewing the rivalry, renewing the rivalry, and renewing the rivalry.
The recurrence of these themes has not been coincidental. This is why:
Over the course of the last two years, I have researched and written a 270,000-word manuscript entitled Fighting Like Cats and Dogs. After the fashion of Bill Cromartie’s Clean Old-Fashioned Hate (Georgia-Georgia Tech) and Cale Conley’s War Between the States (Georgia-Florida), Fighting Like Cats and Dogs provides the definitive game-by-game account of the 62-game history of the rivalry between the Georgia Bulldogs and the Clemson Tigers. Each chapter covers one game in the storied series, which dates back to 1897, and places each contest in the context of the rivalry, the season, and the sport as a whole.
In 1995, I traveled to Clemson, S.C., with two college buddies of mine, Pete Allen and Jeff Rogers, to witness what was then the last scheduled gridiron meeting between the Bulldogs and the Tigers in Memorial Stadium. We thoroughly enjoyed our trip to the shores of Lake Hartwell, and, upon our return to Athens, I penned a column for The Red and Black arguing that the rivalry should not be consigned to history.
Nearly a decade and a half later, Pete and Jeff accompanied me on numerous research trips to the campus libraries at Georgia and Clemson, where we spent hours poring over contemporaneous newspaper accounts and sifting through old photographs. Ere the week is out, I will be sending book proposals to prospective publishers in the hope of finding an avenue for getting Fighting Like Cats and Dogs into the hands of the reading public.
While my purpose partly was to chronicle the rich history of this intense rivalry, I also had an objective that went beyond simply conveying information (although I believe the individual game accounts, series record breakdowns, and series odds and ends contained in the book accomplish this objective in great detail). I do not want a rivalry which was central to my formative years as a fan to fade away, as such once-annual affrays as the rivalry between Penn State and Pitt have.
Fortunately, the advent of the twelve-game regular season, at first temporarily (in 2002 and 2003) and now permanently (since 2006), has made it possible for the Georgia-Clemson series to be renewed. I want to see the rivalry revived regularly, for the reasons I gave just last month:
Prior to the 1986 clash between the two clubs, Georgia linebacker John Brantley declared: "This is one to see who the men are. It is the kind of game where women and children need to be sitting in the top level because bones are going to be cracking. It’s going to be really intense." Three years earlier, Vince Dooley had proclaimed that the Bulldogs’ rivalry with Clemson was "a series as heated as we have, a game as intense as we play."
That same year, Red and Black assistant sports editor Edward Thomas wrote that the two teams "have always fought fiercely on the field, but in recent years a bitter hatred has erupted between fans of the two schools, due to the colleges’ proximity, mutual success of both football programs, and the hotly-contested recruitment of Herschel Walker." The passage of two decades did little to change that sentiment, as a 2003 article in the Fort Hill student newspaper, The Tiger, panned ACC expansion by noting that "many Clemson fans, particularly ones who attended Clemson in the 70s and 80s, would rather see the Tigers take on the Bulldogs every year. . . . [R]ivalries like Clemson-Georgia are good for the landscape of sports."
Multiple journalists have noted the peculiar ferocity of the series. Before attaining on-air fame with ESPN, Ivan Maisel observed that "the rivalry has grown big enough here that quarterback Homer Jordan can say, ‘It’s getting bigger than the South Carolina game’ and no one blinks an eye." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Jeff Denberg concurred that "[n]either has played more fiercely against an opponent in recent times." Tony Barnhart called the rivalry "even more intense" than war and the Greenville News-Piedmont’s Dan Foster quoted a University of Georgia athletic official as saying, "I think now the Georgia Tech game is the one we’d hate most to lose, but the Clemson game is the one we most want to win."
Such a series is too deeply woven into the fabric of college football history to be cast aside permanently. As NCT succinctly put it: "I love to hate Climpson. I miss you guys." So that the past will neither be forgotten in the present nor forsaken in the future, someone ought to write a book about it.
Well, now someone has.
Go ‘Dawgs!
(Postscript: I am sending book proposals to several potential publishers, but I am not so arrogant as to assume that I have identified every possible target. If anyone has any suggestions in that respect, please feel free to share your thoughts in the comments below. Thanks.)
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Aha!
I’m in. Cale signed my War Between the States to “a gentleman and a scholar”. I’ll expect something a bit more verbose from you.
Want
I don’t know about potential publishers, but the fact that you have a complete manuscript (as opposed to just a proposal) should draw some attention. I have faith that you’ll find a publisher, but I hope you understand that no matter what happens now, you’re going to have to get that book into our hands somehow, even if you have to bind them yourself and copy all 270,000 words by hand. Good luck!
Leaving insightful football commentary and analysis to other people since 2006.
What about the rest of our Out of Conference schedule?
I am not opposed to playing Clemson every year. I think it is a great idea, in fact. I agree with your reasoning, Kyle, and the rivalry should resume. However, even with the 12 game season, it would greatly constrict our OOC scheduling practices, even sans Dooley.
We would have 8 conference games, Georgia Tech and Clemson. Assuming GT and Clemson are staggered, that is 5 home games and 5 away games. Last year, when we played GT, ASU, and OSU out of conference, Richt said it was more BCS opponents in one season than what we want. The normal model appears to be GT, one solid BCS opponent, one middling MAC/WAC-type opponent, and one lowly Sun Belt or I-AA opponent, with the latter two being home games we buy, not home and home. If we play Clemson every year, that game is not going to bump the Central Michigans and New Mexico States we play; it’s going to bump the Oklahoma States and Oregons.
I’d rather be seen playing a solid out of conference game every year that provides geographical variety. Otherwise we’ll have to adopt Florida’s excuse: We play FSU every year and Miami most years, so why should we play anyone at any other place besides the Swamp? Adopting anything Florida is something of which I’m never in favor.
I’m looking forward to the book’s release. I will save a place for it on my shelf (but not before it is read).
I don't think we have to play Clemson every year OOC marktheshark,
but every other year would be a nice way to keep the rivalry smoldering while retaining some flexibility. That might create some years in which we play both Clemson and Tech on the road, but let’s face it, Bobby Dodd hasn’t exactly been a tough venue for Georgia these past few years anyhow.
Though I like where your head is at regarding staying as far away from Florida’s recent scheduling practices as possible.
If UGA would have played Clemson last year...
… and beat them (which, though far from certain, is more likely than not), then would the Dawgs have been ACC Champions outright?
I’m intrigued.
by first and thom on Apr 7, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice.
Mark me down for a hardback, as well.
The old maxim says that publishing is all about timing… and Georgia renews its football rivalry with the Fort Hill Felines in 2013. I don’t know if that’s soon enough to pique the interest of a publisher, but the fact that they will be playing in the near future certainly can’t hurt.
I assume you’ve got Rutledge Hill and Gridiron Publishers, since they were the publishers of Clean Old Fashioned Hate and War Between The States, respectively. Other publishers I’ve noted on Georgia football-related books are The Scarecrow Press, Whitman Publishing, Triumph Books, Publications International, Thomas Nelson Publishers, Hill Street Press, Savas Beatie (never heard of them), Longstreet Press, and Cumberland House Publishing.
No matter who publishes it, though… if you can get on the shelf at the UGA Bookstore, you’re golden. :-)
I'll do the postgame report so you don't have to:
Georgia= Marcellus Wallace
Clemson= Zed
Bruce Willis shan’t be coming to the rescue with a samurai sword.
In other news, I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out that you “mailing it in” is still better than 99% of the blogs out there (Georgia themed or otherwise). And I’m only partially saying that to get a signed first edition.
"We have a lot of passionate fans at Georgia and we look forward to giving them something to be positive about."
-Todd Grantham.
by RedCrake on Apr 7, 2010 6:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Did you forget the dire straights Marcellus Wallace found himself in before Bruce Willis showed up?
I think you mean this the other way around. UGA = Marcellus Wallace after Bruce Willis shows up, and Clemson = Zed. Maybe Grantham & Co. can bring some lead pipes and blowtorches and get midevil on their @$$.
The context in which Marcellus Wallace exacted revenge against Zed seems most analogous to 2009 UGA, after the Kentucky game, (or Tennesee for that matter judging by the next week’s outcome). I guess 2009 UGA post-Florida would work as well, but destroying Tennessee Tech is more like punching out the Gimp.
I look forward to purchasing your book, Kyle. Congratulations on completing the manuscript.
by dawgdayafternoon on Apr 7, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
Oh no....
I was specifically referring to the UGA Baseball team this week.
I would say playing Clemson in football in the coming years would be more aptly described using an analogy from Inglourious Basterds:
UGA = Donny Donowitz
Clemson = A Nazi Officer that will never again eat a sauerkraut samich.
"We have a lot of passionate fans at Georgia and we look forward to giving them something to be positive about."
-Todd Grantham.
That is wonderful news.
As a SC Bulldog I can only say it has been a long time coming. My son will start Clemson in the fall. As a lifelong Georgia fan, he is struggling with the transition to Tiger. I am too. I am only sorry it will not be available as a graduation present, but will be excited to have it for presentation well before the begining of the 2013 “festivities.” Keep us posted on your publishing progress.
Damon will not go for it!
UGA has 3 non-coference games per year. GT takes one of those slots every year. Damon wants to “market” the UGA brand nationally to get exposure, he is not going to limit himself to one game per year to “work with” in scheduling. Sorry, fact of life.. I can see us putting them back on some sort of regular rotation. Hey if the SEC becomes a “Super Conference” maybe they would invite Clemson to come play, and we could bring them onto the schedule as a conference foe?
Actually, we have four non-conference games per year . . .
. . . but, otherwise, your point basically is right, and basically describes what Damon Evans is doing. Consequently, Clemson is back on the schedule in 2013 and 2014, and probably will be back on the schedule again a few years after that, following another round of Oregon/Oklahoma State-style games.
I’m realistic; I don’t expect us to play Clemson every year. I’d like to see us play Clemson twice every six years, which ought to be doable while still allowing for two rent-a-wins per year and a healthy rotation of non-rivalry BCS conference home-and-homes.
Go 'Dawgs!
Kyle, do I have some stories for you!
I grew up on the Georgia side of Lake Hartwell, and was a student at Georgia for seven years during the football seasons of 1975-1981. I cannot tell you how much I hated Clemson. Their stadium is the loudest place I have ever visited.
Not only did I have tons of cousins (on my mother’s side) who pulled for the Tigers, I also had to watch THEIR TV stations whenever I was home. The average Clemson fan did not know football like Alabama fans and their history against us up until 1974 was pretty weak, so I felt like they should NEVER beat us.
Please look up info about the 1963 game between UGA and Clemson. The game ended in a 7-7 tie because play was halted, essentally due to a sudden and horrific hail storm. (My parents were at the game and got soaked to the bone).
One other side note – when we played Clemson at their place, a number of my parents’ friends would convoy a small armada of houseboats across Lake Hartwell to the game. Think self contained party! I never got to participate, but it certainly sounded like fun.
And it could all happen again! Good luck with your book.
Thanks, Vinings Dog
The 1963 game was a fascinating one. The storm featured high winds, lightning, hard rain, and half-inch hailstones. Within ten minutes of the start of the storm, the field was white with ice—-in South Carolina in October, mind you—-and Frank Howard claimed his players could not hear him speak for the sound the hail made on the roof above the locker room. Halftime was extended, neither band took the field at intermission, and nearly an inch of precipitation fell in 20 minutes. Over the course of a 45-minute span, the temperature in Clemson feel from 84 degrees to 57 degrees.
It’s just another fascinating chapter in the history of the rivalry. Good stuff.
Go 'Dawgs!
This sounds like a great idea and a great book. We really need to play you guys annually especially with the schools’ close proximity and the history between them.
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