And Then There Was One?: Logan Gray's Possible Departure Would Mean Aaron Murray Was the Lead Dawg
by T Kyle King on Apr 26, 2010 8:15 PM EDT
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PrintI'll be honest with you . . . I heard Buck and Kincade talking about it during my drive home, and I rolled my eyes at the absurdity of it. It was just another preposterous bit of rumor-mongering to fill air time . . . until we got confirmation that Logan Gray is . . . what, exactly?
The early word would seem to be that Gray is as good as gone, but this may prove to be much ado about not very much; yes, Gray is meeting with Mark Richt to discuss his future, but we've been hearing all spring that he might make the move to receiver, and that such a position switch is up to him.
I'm sure Gray is disappointed at not nailing down the starting job, but all three quarterbacks were given equal first-team reps this spring, so no one can say he didn't get his shot, and the post-spring depth chart is hardly set in stone. Blake Barnes had a good reason to transfer; particularly in the wake of Zach Mettenberger's dismissal, Gray has far less basis for bolting.
In the meantime, as I am typing this, David Hale has little, GeorgiaDogs.com has nothing, and Gray's Facebook page offers no indication that this 'Dawg is anywhere other than under the porch.
After wasting all that time tracking airplanes from Athens to Tuscaloosa during the Kirby Smart flirtation, I'm not putting my trust in speculation. Breathe, Bulldog Nation, breathe.
Go 'Dawgs!
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If the rumor is true, of course . . .
. . . there would be a particular irony to a Gray loss on Confederate Memorial Day.
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by T Kyle King on Apr 26, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
for the win…
"Dum spiro spero"
by Bravely going forward on Apr 26, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Update:
Georgia Tech fans would like to remind everyone that they’re not obsessed with us at all.
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Ha!
If you flip through just a few of my previous updates, you’ll note I also made fun of FSU’s Coach Coley, called Georgia Tech’s own Jonathan Dwyer a system fullback, retweeted some Tebow jokes, mocked the Oakland Raiders and Sam Bradford and Drew Brees and Rasheed Wallace, and made fun of an ACC Championship shirt that said TOUGHEST TEAM, TOUGHEST CONFERENCE.
Take life more seriously, TKK. Take it all personally. Everybody’s out to get you and only you.
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It appears that, after I deleted my previous comment to you . . .
. . . you deleted your subsequent comments to me, taking with them my response. Accordingly, I will summarize my reply:
While searching for information on the Logan Gray rumors, I ran across the two Twitter updates linked to above; because another Georgia Tech fan interrupted a previous unrelated comment thread to raise this issue, I thought it worth noting humorously in passing.
No, everyone is not out to get me, and certainly not only me. I do not take it personally that rival fans dislike my team; I do take it personally when rival fans come to the weblog I co-author and direct comments at me personally, because, after all, that is the way they are intended. I reacted too strongly, for which I have apologized, and I deleted the offending comment.
How seriously I take my life is no part of this conversation, and I neither solicited nor welcome your advice on how I should go about living. I will confess, however, that I increasingly find myself frustrated by the fact that I try to conduct myself with a certain level of class, yet that does not appear to have engendered even the slightest good will among most rival fans or even some fellow SB Nation bloggers. I regret the mounting evidence that, in the blogosphere, nice guys finish last.
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No, I didn't delete them. I don't even have the option of deleting a comment here. Clicking Actions doesn't display any Delete option. Not that I'd do that.
As I just mentioned in our email conversation, I only commented on this topic at all because you called me out. I came here looking for news on the rumor, just as I would for rumors on any team on Tech’s schedule, and saw I’d been personally accused of obsessing over a team that’s just about as important to me as any rival of any team I root for.
The point of my comment was that fans make fun of all teams all the time — doesn’t mean they’re OBSESSED. I showed I make fun of non-UGA teams all the time, including Tech and the ACC within the past weekend! The last part of my comment would’ve been much less incendiary had I just said, “Please try to take a joke,” or something, I guess.
Whatever. I have work to do. Have a good night, guys.
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The first sentence of your second paragraph is exactly the point I was making
I wasn’t calling you out, and I certainly wasn’t personally accusing you of obsessing over Georgia; I was rebutting that charge (which was leveled here by a Georgia Tech fan) by citing two examples to show the absurdity of the charge.
I try, and will continue to try, to take a joke; I would ask you to do likewise.
I don’t know what happened to your comments; I had nothing to do with their disappearance.
You have a good night, too . . . and, by “too,” of course, I mean “instead of us, since we don’t have good nights in Bulldog Nation anymore.”
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by T Kyle King on Apr 26, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Kyle...
Not exactly sure if this is what happened, but if you deleted a comment of yours to which Jason Kirk had responded, you may have inadvertently deleted his comments, as well. That’s to say that if you deleted the comment I’m responding to right now, you would also delete my response.
As far as Gray goes, was he really given any shot at winning the job over Murray? If not, this just hurts (if it happens) depth, right? Not that that’s a thing to be taken lightly, as any ’Bama fan reminds us Gamecocks when we bring up our win over the Tide in 2004.
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by Gamecock Man on Apr 27, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
That's a possibility, Gamecock Man
It appears that I may have deleted a comment of mine while Jason was replying to it, so that his comments didn’t appear on my screen until after the delete and my delete didn’t show up on his screen until after his comments were posted. If that is the case, I regret the inadvertent deletion of comments other than my own, but, inasmuch as Jason and I have cleared the air, I’m prepared to let it lie with a general “my bad.”
Regarding your questions, Logan Gray certainly was given a shot to prove himself this spring. All three quarterbacks got equal numbers of snaps with the first-team offense, so each of them had his opportunity. Although there has been talk all spring of moving Gray to wide receiver, the decision clearly has been his to make, and he hasn’t lost time under center by lining up wide.
The only disadvantages I can see confronting Gray were (a) his ineffectiveness in the few game situations in which he was placed last year, and (b) the fact that scrimmages such as the G-Day game require the quarterbacks to wear non-contact jerseys, thus limiting the utility of Gray’s mobility. I don’t believe the former was held against him, given the glaringly obvious play calls that were used when he went in for one play at a time and the disaster that already was unfolding when he was tossed into the fire against Florida. As for the latter, G-Day was just one scrimmage, and Gray performed better than Aaron Murray on that occasion.
As for your second question, yes, it only hurts depth, but no one wants to be down to two scholarship quarterbacks, particularly since the backup would be a true freshman who isn’t yet on campus. The lack of pressure on Murray to excel and the lack of any experience behind the starter are huge concerns; admittedly, they won’t matter if Murray stays healthy and plays well, but it’ll be a scary season if we spend the entire year one tackle away from disaster.
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Right...
I didn’t so much mean that it didn’t seem that Richt had given him much of a chance, but rather that, based on the chance he had already gotten, that not many people seemed to think he was going to win the starting job over Murray. I seem to recall Richt saying that he had given both quarterbacks fair play and that Murray had clearly outperformed Gray over the course of the spring, or something to that effect. Richt seemed to be suggesting that even if Murray hadn’t excelled in the spring game, he was the QB that seemed to be most consistent and in command of his game.
And yeah, I agree that depth is obviously a big issue. Last year, we were in the boat you’ll be in this year if Gray leaves, as the players behind Garcia were all completely unproven and, for different reasons ranging from experience to sheer talent deficiency, probable liabilities as SEC QBs. Luckily, Garcia never got hurt, but we were playing with fire.
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by Gamecock Man on Apr 27, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
logan gray not at QB is a good thing.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
I was sidelined on a tangent, for which I apologize . . .
. . . just as I apologize for using profanity in a previous comment. I have deleted that comment and I am sorry if anyone was offended by it.
Regarding the matter at hand, David Hale has cited sources within the athletic department saying that Logan Gray is weighing his options. WUOG sports director James Carr is the only source I can find who says Gray is gone; every other outlet that reports this as a done deal cites Carr as the source.
This may not be nothing, but, with all due respect to Carr, it is far from certain. Stay tuned.
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Am I the only one who really isn't concerned?
The way I see it, if Gray were to get significant snaps at QB this season, we were in deep trouble already. Whether it was Gray or Mason taking over, its bad news either way. So we have to find someone new to fair catch in the red zone. Big deal.
see my above post
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Wow
I mean, I realize he’s not everyone’s #1, but are we really this callous? Seriously, this kid is our #2 QB (from the SPRING), and we’re all ready to write him off based off of a bad showing in the spring and basically no playing time last year in any meaningful situation?
I remember when the sky was falling because DJ Shockley was going to start for us, based off how horrible he played in relief of Greene versus Georgia Tech in 2004. That whole summer all everybody said was “we’ll suck next year, DJ’s not a QB” blah blah blah. Let’s remember this kid was a high recruit at QB, and is still better than throwing Mason out there (regardless of his Parade All-Americanship).
You dont think
That Gray was being considered heavily as an option throughout 2009? Look, the coaches aren’t dumb, the saw what was happening with Cox… not to mention they knew the whole season that Cox had a bummed shoulder.
If Gray was a better QB, or a better option to win, he’d have been in there. Unfortunately, he wasn’t. That, coupled with the fact that he still couldn’t beat out 2 RSF in spring, is why fans are a bit nonplussed about the idea of him taking the reigns.
by knowshon loves legos on Apr 28, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
my sentiment exactly
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
it's not one bad showing...
I doubt most of us “writing him off” are basing it off of just one spring scrimmage. Speaking for myself personally, I know what Gray is. I’ve seen him in 3 spring scrimmages, and some real game time. Never once have I thought about him, “he could start one day.”
I hope Quincy Redux has a better ending than the first time I saw this...
anyone else see the eerie similarity between what appeared a solid batch of underclassman QBs (Hybl, Cobb, Usry, Carter) and slowly became Carter and a walk-on to the current situation. I’ll say again, I hope the sequel has a better ending.
You're not the only one who thought of that analogy
Of course, if there’s any coach in the country who has proven he can smooth over a quarterback controversy, it’s Mark Richt . . . and nothing in our head coach’s public comments suggests that Aaron Murray’s ascension is as etched in stone as Quincy Carter’s anointment was.
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And while I've not seen Aaron Murray out around downtown
Athens, I’m reasonably certain from what I have heard from our coaches and players that his downtime is spent in a significantly different manner than Quincy’s was.
I don't know...
… Quincy’s standard was pretty high.
by vineyarddawg on Apr 27, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if this will
alter any plans to have Murray involved in any run/pass options. Memo to Aaron: The sideline is your friend. So are: Toss sweeps, counters, draws, screens, delays, Caleb, Washaun, Carlton, Shaun, Fred, DJ, and anyone else who wants to tote the rock.
Good thing we have an experienced O-Line or I’d be worried.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
i can tell you how many times Cox threw it in the stands last year
zero.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
I CANNOT believe
I missed out on Kyle cussing. Consarnit.
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I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.
It was like Haley's comet, but better.
Like Eric Berry and Knowshon Moreno riding tandem on Haley’s comet then jumping off right before it crashed into Tony Kornheiser’s old man putterin’ shed. A truly once in a lifetime opportunity.
If it's any consolation, Holly . . .
. . . you indirectly were partly responsible for my profanity-laden political attack ad against my second-round opponent in the Hot Blogger Bracket on EDSBS Live a while back.
Also, I had been planning on a relaxing evening at home last night until I saw you had started the Logan Gray story stream at SBNation.com and I had to address the topic post haste, so, if it makes you feel better, there were a few moments when I was muttering obscenities about you like Yosemite Sam cursing Bugs Bunny!
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It is LOTS of consolation.
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I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.
by Holly Anderson on Apr 27, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
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