Why There is No Cause for Concern That the Georgia Bulldogs Are a "Rogue Program" Under Mark Richt
While it goes without saying, it nevertheless ought to be said that David Hale is one of the best college football beat reporters in the business. I mention that because David catches a lot of flak from folks who mistake his observations for advocacy, and he deserves credit for dividing his news reporting from his sports commentary. The former appears in the newspaper beneath his byline; the latter appears on his weblog, in the form of postings like this one.
Hale asks whether (but does not argue that) Mark Richt is running a rogue program. He raises this question because it is being asked by others; when I posted my brief observations on the dismissal of Zach Mettenberger to my Facebook page, I received comments such as these:
[S]ince when is Richt worried about rule breaking? Has he seen his team's penalty yardage?!
UGA can not become UMiami, this is the second guy to get dismissed in what 8 days?
To those comments, I offered the following responses, respectively:
Funny, but unfair. Mark Richt is a strict disciplinarian who has never waited longer than 48 hours after learning of a player arrest before imposing a punishment. Players who incurred penalties in spring scrimmages this year were required to do "rolls," lying down and rolling from one end of the field to the other and back again. He dismissed Jasper Sanks from the team the week before the 2001 Georgia Tech game, he punished Odell Thurman due to his "zero tolerance" policy following an incident in which the police said they wished they could have arrested the other person involved, and he suspended Justin Houston for the Oklahoma State and South Carolina games last year. Mark Richt's record on dealing with rule-breaking compares favorably with that of any coach of a major program.
There's no risk of that whatsoever. The fact that they were dismissed tells us that. There have been significant offseason incidents with just two players since the end of last season, which represents a considerable reduction, and both players were dismissed. The low number of such incidents and the heavy sanction applied in response to them ought to remove any doubts anyone entertained that we were anywhere near heading down that road.
Go look at Hale’s list, which is presented systematically and factually without passion or prejudice. In the slightly more than eleven months since May 8, 2009, there have been nine incidents. Four dealt with arrests or the issuance of arrest warrants for the following offenses: operating a scooter with a suspended license and emerging from an alley (Vance Cuff), failing to pay parking fines and theft by taking for moving a scooter on which the traffic police had placed a boot (Rennie Curran), driving without a license (Vince Vance), and driving a motorcycle without a license (Jonathan Owens).
The commission of those victimless offenses serves as an indictment of many things, including the overzealousness of the parking and traffic police in downtown Athens and on the University of Georgia campus (I write that as someone who incurred many a parking fine in Athens and sat many an hour of Traffic Court as a justice of the Student Judiciary), the inadequacy of parking in Athens, and the general boneheadedness of college students about keeping their licenses current and their fines paid. The hallmark of a rogue program, though, this is not. I agree with tankertoad that Suzanne Yoculan needs to be appointed house mother of the athletic dorm so she can keep our football players from going out without a proper license, but these fall far short of being signs of rampant lawlessness. Arrests or no, these offenses are much closer to jaywalking than to carjacking.
Of the remaining five incidents, two involved Montez Robinson and two involved Zach Mettenberger. The first incident involving Robinson earned him a two-game suspension; the second got him dismissed from the program. The first incident involving Mettenberger got him suspended for a minimum of one game; the second (which really was a continuation or culmination of the first, as there was no new arrest) got him dismissed from the program.
Those cases were specific to individual athletes, both of whom were hit with suspensions of at least one full game, both of whom were out after a second strike. (Yes, Mettenberger’s one-game suspension, had it been only a one-game suspension, would have been for the Louisiana-Lafayette game, but Coach Richt’s two-game suspension of Justin Houston for the 2009 Oklahoma State and South Carolina games last year demonstrates that Coach Richt levies suspensions in the ensuing outings, without regard to the opponent.)
The final incident in the last eleven months not only wasn’t a black eye for the program, it was a point of pride. While the police report indicated that one of the victims claimed his assailants were four Georgia football players, the investigation revealed that no Bulldogs were among the perpetrators, the one player who was there (Dontavius Jackson) attempted to settle the situation peaceably, and Coach Richt could offer constructive criticisms without lashing out at reporters. When the truth came out, everyone involved with ties to the Georgia football program deserved kudos, not criticism.
That’s it. That’s all. Nine incidents in eleven months sounds bad when you phrase it that way, but, like Florida’s infamous (and exaggerated) 24 arrests of a year ago, it didn’t look as bad when you examined it on a case-by-case basis. One of the nine incidents involved a football player behaving well in a bad situation; half of the remaining eight were the handiwork of two players, both of whom were dismissed from the team as a result of their respective second incidents; the remaining four were technical traffic violations regarding parking tickets and driver’s licenses, which did not involve moral culpability, public safety, or actual victims.
David Hale has provided a worthwhile service to Bulldog Nation by breaking down the data to see what the facts show. One player arrest is one player arrest too many, and "boys will be boys" is no excuse, even for the stupid stuff. I managed to spend more years than I would care to count as a student at the University of Georgia, and I never once had a run-in with the law. It is possible to be a teenage dumbass without getting cuffed, booked, and fingerprinted.
Nevertheless, not all crimes, arrests, or off-the-field incidents are created equal. Honest-to-goodness wrongdoers have been booted from the program, guys guilty of poor judgment have paid the price for their bad choices, and Coach Richt’s Christian propensity for second chances has not prevented him from meting out genuine punishments in response to genuine malfeasance. Coach Richt isn’t perfect, and his players ought to behave better than they sometimes do, but I’m not worried about putting my father-of-the-year candidacy in jeopardy by encouraging my children to root for a rogue band of scooter scofflaws. While I feel bad for the young men whose behavioral lapses have cost them dearly, I will have no problem providing my kids with cautionary tales when I am asked what happened to players who have been kicked out of the program.
Player behavior at the tail end of the Jim Donnan era was an embarrassment to me as a Georgia fan. While individual acts of stupidity sometimes make me bang my head in frustration, I’m not concerned that thuggery is being tolerated in the Sanford Stadium locker room. It sounds like the good eggs are getting better and the bad eggs are getting gone, occasional emergences from alleys notwithstanding.
Go ‘Dawgs!
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Well, that was supposed to say:
I never want to have to say “at least we don’t have anymore coke heads” again.
Great piece, Kyle
I couldn’t have said it better. You’re correct; David Hale presented the facts clearly and unbiased. Anyone with any common sense can see that the incidents are not as bad as it looks on paper, and the ones that are truly thugs (Lemon, Robinson) are given fair treatment. When players mess up again or the mess up is real bad, they are dismissed.
Disgruntled fans can be upset at the results of recent seasons, but anyone who says he is running a rouge program either has an agenda or is ignorant.
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If there is anyway for it to happen
I will upon retirement go back to UGA and see if I can work as Mr Disciplinarian for the AD. I dont even need to be paid that much – a fair wage and nice seats. ) And I already know I can do the job. THanks for the reference Kyle.
Onto the piece – I think UGA gets attention because CMR actually takes action. Nothing is swept under the rug and everything is on a high moral road. It’s what you don’t hear about at schools that comes out years later that lands schools on probation.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Something that i think is an intresting developement is the NFL's excalating punishment for off the field incidents
These kids are going to have to learn early in high-school and practice it in College, if they want to be a professional football player with a long and successful carreer, they are going to have to learn to keep thier nose clean and stay away from people and places where trouble can easily find them. Not saying they should never go out and have a good time with the guys or never enjoy an alcoholic beverage. But know when to stop and be above board in everything you do.
The strict nature which college teams, and specifically UGA, handle off the field incidents is starting to be reflected in the NFL. It has greatly affected draft stock in the past and will continue to become a part of the teams criteria looking at players in the future.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
also
When I read the link in Hale’s piece about arrests at other schools (Fla, Tenn, FSU), UGA had the most and as one person (less than gracefully) noted, a lot of the incidents at UGA involved alcohol. However, I noticed that the other schools had more drug (usually marijuana) incidents. Now, I know that alcohol is technically a drug. And I know that there are a group of people that will argue that alcohol is worse than pot, but alcohol is legal for people 21+, pot is not.
Richt did the right thing
Mark has done alot for our program. I think the record he has compiled speaks for itself. But as a fan who never misses a game it has always frusrated me to see our teams lack of discipline. I never feel like we dont have the talent to compete with any team in the nation. I feel like we always beat ourselves with stupid mistakes at critical points in the game. The last few years I have felt that uor defensive players were not put in the best positions to make plays we needed to make. I dont feel like our defensive players were not coached to get the best out of their ability. Sure losing Mett and Robinson sucks but this is a breath of fresh air to hear about the players doing rolls in practice for making mistakes or that we are not going to put up with our players not representing the University like they should. Grantham said in one of his first interveiws that he was scouted a great deal of NFL talen that came right from our backyard. I think that Richt made a great off season hire. I love hearing our coaches talk about FUNDAMENTALS and DISCIPLINE. Last season was hard to watch but we still finished 8-5 and CMR made the right decisions this offseason. I trust CMR and am still very optimistic about this season
It may not be different than the rest of 'em
I wonder the same thing that Hale wondered in his original post: how does the three percent of players in serious offenses over the past three years correlate to the general student body? I know that student athletes represent the university more than normal students, but maybe the body of student athletes are in line with the general student body.
As a side note from presentations done about budget cuts in a technical communications class I took a year ago: the only auxiliary services that came out with a profit are UGA Food Services and UGA Parking Services. Go figure :)
UGA parking
i once got a ticket for illegally parking in the dorms in an actual parking spot. It was the last spot in the row so I, like many people, had the car a little over the line to the non used side to give space to the spot on the other side. And i got a ticket for it and nothing I could do about it. If I was an athlete – I guess this would have been cause for great alarm.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
This can't be good.
There is now a Facebook group that has been created to support Zach Mettenberger, and at least one current Georgia player has posted a couple of relatively cryptic comments saying something like, “Y’all don’t know what you’re doing…”
Now, I know a lot of you old farts on this board don’t understand anything about what I just wrote other than “Zach Mettenberger” and “current Georgia team member,” but I think this could signal some division in the locker room. Not good.
Apparently, solidarity has been restored:
I just clicked on the link, and it shows that the messages have been taken down, the administrators have left the group, and only two members remain. Evidently, whatever was brewing settled down and dissipated quickly.
Go 'Dawgs!
Weird . . .
Were there two “Team Mett” pages? I ask that because the one linked to by vineyarddawg above appears different from the one I linked to in the posting I just put up on the main page.
Either way, though, David Hale says it’s being taken down in order to prevent just the sort of division vineyarddawg mentioned. It appears this is much ado about not very much.
Go 'Dawgs!
It does look that way, after all.
I think approximately 30 seconds after I linked to that post, members started disappearing from that group, and the wall messages in question disappeared, too. And shortly thereafter, David Hale tweeted:
Update: Spoke to player listed on the Mett Facebook page who said no disrespect was meant toward the team or coaches.
So, apparently, this was much ado about just trying to support a former teammate. At least, I certainly hope that’s all it was.
by vineyarddawg on Apr 20, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
An arrest is an arrest...as small as the offenses may be...
they are still charges and one would think players would STOP doing these things if others are getting put in jail because of them
Richt got away with these early because he won SEC Titles
Now he isn’t and people are getting more angry
Of course an arrest isn't an arrest, other than in the most literal sense
Plenty of arrests are false arrests. Many don’t lead to formal charges or convictions.
Is an arrest for a suspended license for failing to pay a parking ticket even remotely comparable to an arrest for assault?
Who’s going to jail for non-DUI traffic offenses on scooters? Should anyone?
I don’t get the “Richt got away with these early” argument. Got away with what? Where is there a persistent problem to his discipline?
Go 'Dawgs!

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