NCAA Issues new Rules
by podunkdawg on Apr 15, 2010 1:23 PM EDT
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1. No Wedge blocks on Kickoff's - NCAA says this is about safety
2. Change to the Celebration/Taunting Penalty - Call this the Georgia Rule
Beginning in 2011, live-ball penalties will be assessed from the spot of the foul and eliminate the score. Examples include players finishing touchdown runs by high-stepping into the end zone or pointing the ball toward an opponent.
Celebration penalties following a score will continue to be assessed on conversion attempts or the ensuing kickoff.
3. No more messages in eye black - This is the Reggie Bush/Tim Tebow Rule
A third change bans the use of eye black containing symbols or messages, a trend that grew in popularity because of the use by Heisman Trophy winners Reggie Bush and Tim Tebow.
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At least one SEC Game this year
and it wont be on opening weekend, nor will it be MSU v anyone except Ole Miss either.
"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain
oops
not this coming year, the following year.
"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain
Different effective dates
Eye black with messages and wedge blocks will be banned from college football this fall, and taunting in the field of play will start costing teams points in 2011.
"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain
So if someone commits and unsportsmanlike penalty after they score...
…It will not erase the touchdown. That’s how i’m reading it. Right?
What about diving into the endzone?
I’m sure Penn Wagers could interpret running really fast away from the defense, and looking back over your shoulder to see if anyone is close behind, as a taunting penalty.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
That's correct
Once you’ve scored, the ball is dead, so an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty incurred in the end zone is treated as a dead ball foul, exactly the way all such fouls currently are treated.
If you commit an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in the field of play, before scoring, while it’s still a live ball, it’s treated as a live ball foul and the penalty is marked off from the spot of the foul. In other words, if I’m reading it right, a defensive back who picks off a pass and runs it back 70 yards for a score who begins high-stepping at the opposing team’s 10 yard line before going into the end zone will be penalized 15 yards from the spot of the foul (the 10 yard line), erasing the touchdown and giving the would-be scoring team possession at the opponent’s 25 yard line.
Yes, this is every bit as dumb a rule as it sounds like it is, and, yes, however large an impact a dead ball foul can have on the outcome of a game will be magnified by this rule, and, yes, in conjunction with the “no expressions of personality on your eyeblack even if you’re just paying homage to your mother, your home town, or your religious faith in a manner absolutely no one considers offensive or objectionable” rule, this rule change is synonymous with the fuddy-duddization of college football.
I’m a suburban middle-aged conservative Methodist white Southern lawyer, and even I think this is uptight and overbearing. I’m sure it will all change when Kevin Bacon moves to town and teaches all the youngsters to dance, though.
Go 'Dawgs!
As a lawyer
How quickly and easily will the eye-black be challenged for infringement of 1st Amendment rights?
Because i find it very hard to believe in a society where people sue for you looking at them the wrong way, that someone with the money for a decent lawyer will take the NCAA to task on this very soon even before the season starts.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Apr 15, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting.
The NCAA isn’t a government entity, so it can restrict speech all day long and several times on Saturday. The University of Georgia, however, is a government entity, as are most NCAA members. Still, although I’m not familiar with any case law on the relationship between freedom of expression and rules of competition, I suspect there’s nothing wrong with incorporating expression restrictions into the rules of a game. Outside the field of play, players can exercise their First Amendment rights* as they please.
What’s the penalty for breaking the eye-black rule?
*As those rights are understood and interpreted by controlling cases.
Penalty for eye-black
That was the other thing i was thinking about. My first thought about how the NCAA would handle it is more or less threatening their ability to play in the game if they refuse to remove the eye-black, or somehow penalize the team for allowing it to take place. I don’t see how they would penalize eye-black use with penalty yards unless they considered it “taunting” of some kind.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Apr 16, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
eye-black message penalty
Perhaps the penalty is having a stern motherly type wearing ref stripes lick her thumb and smear the message off the player’s face.
you forgot
the “and gives the player a talking to” part of that. =)
"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain
And if they want a message out...
they can still write it on shoes, or wrist bands, or on the skin itself like in the picture below. So speech is not restricted as there are other means of getting a message out that are still allowed.
by Mr. Sanchez on Apr 22, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree that there is almost certainly no 1st amendment violation
You give up lots of rights when you step on a football field. Foremost of these is the right not to be absolutely leveled by a massive man running at incredibly high speeds.
by first and thom on Apr 25, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Diving into the endzone
That’s a fine example of (one of the many) problems with this new rule. I suppose if the player leaps from outside the endzone, then it is a live ball foul and the TD is called back and the ball is placed at the 15+ yard line. If the player leaves his feet just after crossing the goal line, then the TD stands and the old penalty kicks in as a dead ball foul. I wonder if officials will review replay to determine if the player broke the plane before or after leaving his feet for the dive…..stay tuned!
I think the NCAA is just covering their butt with the eye black rules.
All it took was some kid trying to get some attention by putting “controvercial” words there. The kid can’t have “Satan” written there but Tebow can have Bible chapters? That’s religious discrmination, lawsuit!
It’s just too risky to give players the opportunity to give personal messages while they play. It’s unfortunate, but I completely understand where they are coming from.
As for the newfound “Georgia rule”, that’s just stupid. Everyone already knows the NCAA, and NFL for that matter, are ruining ANY kind of harmless fun and enjoyment during the games by the kids that play them, so there’s no purpose for a rant.
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