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President Myles Adams loves reminding you who's in charge.

Today, the University released new guidelines for tailgating on North Campus for the 2010 football season.  And if you're one of those godawful young-uns who can't seem to figure out that you put trash in a bag instead of on the ground (or that you urinate in a restroom instead of onto - or into - a historic building on North Campus), then this these almost-draconian rules are at least partially your fault.

To place the majority of the blame, however, I look directly towards the office of the President.

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For those who have not yet heard about the tailgating restrictions, they were described as following on the University's official Gameday tailgating website:

- Tailgating on North Campus will be allowed beginning four (4) hours before kickoff.

- The following items will not be allowed on North Campus on gamedays:
- Tents
- Kegs
- Generators
- Televisions
- Amplified music
- Grills or cookers of any type
- Tables larger than 4 ft. long
- Household furniture (folding chairs not included)

 

President Myles Brand Michael Adams loves to forcefully remind us on a regular basis exactly who's in charge here. (And by the way, you'll take these new rules and like them, and you'll still pony up a minimum of $490 per season ticket every year.)  I honestly wonder sometimes if the man has to step on someone's throat every couple of years just to make himself feel strong and still-in-charge.

Now, my crew has tailgated in the same spot on South Campus for 20+ years, so this won't affect me, but having seen the scene on North Campus in the past, I know that many people will be put out by this significant restriction in activity.  For all those of you that like to show up an hour in advance and tailgate without food, shelter, entertainment, or tables on which to place anything, though... knock yourself out.

I mean seriously... can we start, in earnest, a campaign to have this buffoon named President of the NCAA?  That way, at least he can make everyone miserable instead of just Georgia football fans.

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What do you mean "blame Adams"?

I hate the man as much as anybody, but he got this one 100% right. North Campus is the most beautiful spot on campus, and is right up there with any place at any university. If people aren’t willing to take care of it, they shouldn’t be allowed to use it. There are plenty of other areas on campus where careless people with no respect for the university, its history, or its tradition can choose to dump their garbage. What happened last season was an embarrassment. If this is what it takes to prevent something like that from happening again, so be it.

by SG Standard on Mar 18, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

You're half right

The problem here is that all Adams has done is displaced the trash. The same people will now do the same thing to Meyers and other areas. Do you think the people that trashed NC will really learn some kind of valuable lesson from these restrictions? If anything, it may have the opposite effect: spite, more littering, you-cant-tell-me-what-to-do attitudes in other areas of campus.

Teach a man to fish

by knowshon loves legos on Mar 18, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Technically, you are correct...

… but the pictures that have ubiquitously been spread about the internet were taken after one week, and in my experience, do not represent the average post-gameday experience. It certainly didn’t after the huge deal was made about it last year and the University started passing garbage bags around like they were condoms at Ridgemont High.

When I saw those pictures, I was flabbergasted myself. My wife and I regularly drive on Broad St. past North Campus and the Arch on our way to church on Sunday mornings, and never once have I seen North Campus in the condition in which it was photographed. This means that either: a) that week was a very unusual event, or b) UGA has a hell of a clean-up staff. (I suspect that both a and b are true.)

If North Campus were being destroyed on a weekly basis to the point where historical landmarks were being endangered, I would wholeheartedly agree with your comments, SG Standard. I do not believe this is the case, however. I think the University administration saw one week of incredibly poor behavior and is using it as an excuse to clamp down once again to ensure that fans on a football gameday have as little fun as possible.

by vineyarddawg on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

vineyard...

I’ve been tailgating on South Campus for a decade and this absolutely will affect us. The jackasses that screwed up North Campus will bring their styrofoam coolers to us and piss on a new part of campus. Adams will eventually enforce these rules campus wide and then we’re all screwed.

"We have a lot of passionate fans at Georgia and we look forward to giving them something to be positive about."
-Todd Grantham.

by RedCrake on Mar 18, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Why now?

I guess Adams, while examining his “666” beauty scar in his scalp this morning, decided he needed to do something devilish. Why couldn’t he issue a warning prior to the season opener, come up with a plan to remind people what was at stake?

Personally, my plan called for a group of paid vigilantes armed with bats and cattle prongs to patrol North Campus and “correct” those who transgress.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Mar 18, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Why Now?

Because the deadline for donations just passed.

"We have a lot of passionate fans at Georgia and we look forward to giving them something to be positive about."
-Todd Grantham.

by RedCrake on Mar 18, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet - i want on that team

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Mar 20, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

And to your point about your plan...

Which I actually quite like. In order to enforce his new plan, Adams is going to have to increase the police presence on North Campus. So the logical question seems to me, couldn’t those additional officers simply have arrested/fined/kicked off campus anyone littering or defecating? Clarke County government could use the increase in revenue.

"We have a lot of passionate fans at Georgia and we look forward to giving them something to be positive about."
-Todd Grantham.

by RedCrake on Mar 18, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

You see this Mike Adams?

This kind of crap is what happens when you get me all worked up. The grammatical acrobatics in the above comment ended like a Mike Adams Sugar Bowl bender…. face down and bloodied on the concrete.

"We have a lot of passionate fans at Georgia and we look forward to giving them something to be positive about."
-Todd Grantham.

by RedCrake on Mar 18, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems to me the underlying issue is the tradition of rule/law-bending that’s always been associated with game day here in Athens. Ticket scalpers do business openly on every street corner, while 18 year-old Freshmen walk right past cops, carrying a beer in each hand and one in their pocket.
I’m embarassed to admit on the night of the Auburn game here several years ago, I drank way too much and passed in the grass along Lumpkin Street. I woke up surrounded by cops, and of course, since I was underage, panicked. Luckily, they simply watched as I staggered off into the night.
So is it any surprise that people shrug and say, “whatever” when the trash cans start to overflow? Let’s not kid ourselves, this isn’t a matter of intentional disrespect for the University as much as it is a result of creating a unique atmosphere in which rule-bending/breaking is allowed, which seems to have worked fine ’til now.

"Dum spiro spero"

by Bravely going forward on Mar 18, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

You're lucky that you're not an athlete...

… or your butt would have been in prison before you woke up, courtesy of ACC’s finest.

by vineyarddawg on Mar 18, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

no kidding.

"Dum spiro spero"

by Bravely going forward on Mar 18, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

he didnt exit an alley - so it may have been ok

"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker

by tankertoad on Mar 20, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I support protecting campus, but I'm not sure these rules are quite right.

It should go without saying that you take away with you what you brought, including empties. This whole idea that it’s the University’s responsibility to clean up after us or even provide extra waste receptacles is ridiculous to me. If you can drag a cooler full of beer cans onto campus, you can drag a cooler full of empty cans away from campus. It’s that simple.

These days, I park downtown and “tailgate” at bars. And vineyarddawg, that wasn’t just a one-game problem. The campus looked disgraceful after each and every home game. It might have been more disgraceful some weeks than others, but there was never a week where I saw what any reasonable person would call an acceptable level of trash. It was “wall-to-wall” every week, and it enraged and embarrassed me every week. And maybe clean-up crews did a great job getting things cleaned up quickly, but to me, that’s not the point. It should never, ever look like that.

If you ask me, the problem is partly that the litterers didn’t have good home training and partly that whatever home training they may have had was compromised by that whole “group mentality” thing — people will do bad things as a member of a group that they would never, ever do as an individual (hazing’s like that, too), because the sense of personal responsibility is diluted by numbers. Still, no excuse.

by NCT on Mar 18, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

you’re exactly right. it’s the “group mentality,” but i’d argue it’s coupled with a special sense of entitlement associated with game day saturdays.

"Dum spiro spero"

by Bravely going forward on Mar 18, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

re game day entitlement

Perhaps. I have always felt a sense of entitlement to the campus. And by “always”, I mean my entire life — at least from the moment of consciousness. I felt entitled to play in the coliseum as a wee thing when tailgating with my folks. When I was in school, I felt entitled to climb up on the roof of the coliseum. I felt entitled to use the Garden Club of Georgia’s Founders’ Garden grounds and all of North Campus as my personal playground for late-night, chemically-enhanced experiences. I felt “entitled” to do a lot of things that I knew were against the rules, but it never crossed my mind to be physically abusive to that campus (my mind and body, maybe, but not the University).

by NCT on Mar 18, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need a pop-up banner for this site that flashes, “Your father may see this”.

by NCT on Mar 19, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or someone work related.

by CraigT on Mar 19, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

or my brother. dang.

by NCT on Mar 19, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm shocked!

Because your brother never climbed to the top of the Tit or into the lights of Grant Field.

by CraigT on Mar 19, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I defer to your first-hand experience, NCT...

… when you say that it’s an every-game situation. As I mentioned, I’m safely tucked away on South Campus with my crowd, so I clearly can’t credibly say that I know the trash situation was ever confined to a small set of gamedays.

Even so, this solution solves no problems.

by vineyarddawg on Mar 18, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly...

It does solve Mike Adams’ problem of “how do I justify chipping away at tailgating/how do I eventually find a way to make money on tailgating campus-wide”.
Not saying fans didn’t give him the ammo, but he was all too happy to unload on all of us.

"We have a lot of passionate fans at Georgia and we look forward to giving them something to be positive about."
-Todd Grantham.

by RedCrake on Mar 18, 2010 6:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oops... I got a bit afield of my original topic

I’m not so sure that the elaborate tailgaters with tents, generators, and grills were the worst offenders. I get the sense that those people, more often than not, straightened up after themselves. I think the worst of it were the “transient” fan/tailgaters who would wander through to visit with a more established tailgate or just be there. But maybe those people won’t show up in such numbers if the general atmosphere that attracted them is gone.

And it’s fine with me. When I get my pre-game buzz on downtown, it will suit me just fine to wander through North Campus on the way to the stadium and then back again and soak up the beauty that is my University (which I often describe as part arboretum and part museum of 200 years of architectural history). A huge chunk of my game day experience is nostalgia, anyway. I don’t need drunks and trash to f—- that up for me. Well, the drunks are ok, as long as they’re reasonably well-behaved.

by NCT on Mar 18, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

RE: The Grove

The Grove banned grills and generators long ago.
And those people certainly did not leave the place looking like North Campus

by JDav on Mar 18, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good for Adams

The way our fans have treated the campus the last few years has been an absolute joke.

We blame the bums, We blame the wind, We blame others

It is our fault

When I walk to our games, I laugh at how pathetic it is seeing trash EVERYWHERE

by Alious on Mar 18, 2010 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Michael Adams = One of the best University Presidents in our country.

Yet another great decision by the president we are lucky to have: Michael Adams.

He’s responsible for Richt, Fox, and a whole host of other decisions that have been a huge boon to our sports teams.

And this is a brilliant move to stamp out a total disgrace.

Thank you, President Adams.

by Muckbeast on Mar 19, 2010 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

And Jim Harrick and keeping Jim Donnan around another three years with a secret deal . . .

. . . and using Foundation money to pay for his son’s graduation party. Don’t forget about those! (Also, he made the trains run on time.)

David Hale is right. This is a one-size-fits-all/when-all-you-have-is-a-hammer-everything-looks-like-a-nail solution. Rather than enforce the laws already on the books against the people actually causing the problem, Il Duce handed down this latest bit of draconian overkill. Evidently, he doesn’t like outdoor cocktail parties unless they’re being thrown by him and paid for by someone else.

Yes, it’s our fault for not policing ourselves. Yes, something had to be done. No, this was not the solution.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Mar 19, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

"he made the trains run on time"

Well, I guess if you’re going to make that most extreme of comparisons, you might as well have a little subtlety about you.

by NCT on Mar 19, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

The Il Duce moniker has always seemed fitting to me (figuratively, not literally, obviously), and I have World War II on the brain because of this.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Mar 19, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

You seem as nerdy as me...

Thus, if you’re in the mood for 700 pages of the most thorough explanation of the Reich’s rise to power, then I recommend what I’m currently reading: a lot of new facts, more old ones, but without the moralism or psychic autopsies so prevalent in most WWII histories…

http://www.amazon.com/Coming-Third-Reich-Richard-Evans/dp/1594200041

..and that’s just part one of three.

"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"

by Stuck in the Plains on Mar 19, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quality.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Mar 19, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't sound right, logically...

1. By displacing kegs, aren’t more bottles/cans, etc going to be present?
2. By displacing grills/cookers/etc…aren’t more disposable food containers going to be present?
3. By eliminating any cooking/prep/storage table over 4’ long, isn’t Adams ecouraging more crap to be on the ground, instead of on, IDK, banquet tables….

That’s just asinine.

"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"

by Stuck in the Plains on Mar 19, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Your assumptions are wrong...

For many years I assumed that, because I was a very loyal Bulldog alumnus, there was a common bond between me and the University. However, as a long time season ticket holder, I have seen the fans kicked in the teeth time and time again. Folks, it’s all about the money. The University cares nothing about you and your game day experience. They want you to drive quietly into town, pay to park your car, walk quickly to the game and leave immediately after the game, unless you have been invited to a fund raising cocktail party/dinner. Last year, when I called early in the year to reserve a room at Continuing Ed for a night game, a young student, new on the reservations desk, said " I don’t think we have any rooms left. Are you somebody?" Game day is a work day for the university. If you aren’t a major contributor, don’t waste your time complaining. It is not about you or your love for UGA or the fun you have with friends on campus. Could the trashing on North Campus be stopped without closing it down? Certainly, but that is not what the university wants. That’s what you want and you are just a ticket holding fan. Again, unlike almost all other SEC schools, UGA cares not about your game day enjoyment. Go to the game and move on. Or send money and stay home. UGA would love that. Athens merchants wouldn’t, but UGA would. That lack of caring for you starts with thr prez and works it’s way down the chain. You don’t like him and he doesn’t like you. Live with it.

by Hill Dawg on Mar 27, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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