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Kyle Gets Contrary: Why the Georgia Bulldogs Should Not Play an Exhibition Game Against the Clemson Tigers

It's so very infrequent that you and TKyle disagree in print! My faith is shaken in the Bulldog nation's glorious blogospheric leaders! Next thing you know, one of you will make a power move and someone'll end up stuffed in an open casket in Butts-Mehre.

Will to Paul Westerdawg

Well, I don’t know that it’s as bad as all that, but I do disagree with Paul when he says: "I see little value in playing Clemson more than one series per decade in football (regular season). Mainly because it benefits them more than us in terms of in state recruiting."

Paul wants to see the Bulldogs play the Tigers annually in basketball, and I agree with him. I’m glad we still play the Country Gentlemen every year in a two-game series in baseball. It makes no sense to me to play a major rival in other sports but not in the biggest sport; what are we, Notre Dame playing is-you-is-or-is-you-ain’t-my-baby with the Big East? We don’t want to stoop to the level of some insignificant quasi-independent small sectarian has-been institution in rural Indiana that couldn’t even keep us from swiping the College Football Hall of Fame right out from under their upturned noses, do we?

Besides, if we’re going to quit playing non-conference opponents whose Peach State recruiting benefits from their games against the Bulldogs, we’re going to quit playing non-conference opponents, starting with Georgia Tech. We can’t take our ball and go home, nor should we want to do so. You don’t hear Florida fans complaining that an annual game in Jacksonville provides Georgia with a Sunshine State recruiting beachhead, although we demonstrably and undeniably benefit from the location of the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party every February.

Clemson is one of our oldest and most heated rivals. We’ve been playing the Tigers seven years longer than we’ve been playing the Gators. In the 20 seasons from 1897 to 1916, the only team the Fort Hill Felines played 20 times was Georgia; in those same 20 seasons, the only team the Classic City Canines played 20 times was Clemson. The Bulldogs faced the Tigers 24 times in 26 seasons between 1962 and 1987, with no out-of-conference rivalry being more consequential in the 1980s than the border war running along I-85. Assuming the two teams do not meet in a bowl at the end of the 2010 campaign, Georgia and Clemson will enter the 2011 season having gone more than seven years without meeting on the gridiron for the first time in either of their histories.

This brings me to Dabo Swinney’s recent remarks regarding a Georgia-Clemson exhibition game, which generated reactions from Team Speed Kills, David Hale, Senator Blutarsky, The Grit Tree, The Leather Helmet Blog, Bill King, and the aforementioned Paul Westerdawg. The consensus in "The Dawgosphere" has been positive, to say the least.

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I take the contrary view. Even assuming that the NCAA would allow such a thing, the risk of injury in a meaningless game would be too great . . . and there literally may be no harder-hitting rivalry the Bulldogs have than their series with the Tigers.

Prior to the 1986 clash between the two clubs, Georgia linebacker John Brantley declared: "This is one to see who the men are. It is the kind of game where women and children need to be sitting in the top level because bones are going to be cracking. It’s going to be really intense." Three years earlier, Vince Dooley had proclaimed that the Bulldogs’ rivalry with Clemson was "a series as heated as we have, a game as intense as we play."

That same year, Red and Black assistant sports editor Edward Thomas wrote that the two teams "have always fought fiercely on the field, but in recent years a bitter hatred has erupted between fans of the two schools, due to the colleges’ proximity, mutual success of both football programs, and the hotly-contested recruitment of Herschel Walker." The passage of two decades did little to change that sentiment, as a 2003 article in the Fort Hill student newspaper, The Tiger, panned ACC expansion by noting that "many Clemson fans, particularly ones who attended Clemson in the 70s and 80s, would rather see the Tigers take on the Bulldogs every year. . . . [R]ivalries like Clemson-Georgia are good for the landscape of sports."

Multiple journalists have noted the peculiar ferocity of the series. Before attaining on-air fame with ESPN, Ivan Maisel observed that "the rivalry has grown big enough here that quarterback Homer Jordan can say, ‘It’s getting bigger than the South Carolina game’ and no one blinks an eye." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Jeff Denberg concurred that "[n]either has played more fiercely against an opponent in recent times." Tony Barnhart called the rivalry "even more intense" than war and the Greenville News-Piedmont’s Dan Foster quoted a University of Georgia athletic official as saying, "I think now the Georgia Tech game is the one we’d hate most to lose, but the Clemson game is the one we most want to win."

Those sentiments were expressed about a rivalry that is not suited to a simulation reminiscent of a Gettysburg re-enactment; you don’t challenge your old enemy to a duel if you don’t intend to use live ammo. To paraphrase Chris Rock from his distinctly NSFW video of more than a decade ago:

No matter what a blogger tells you, there is no football in the spring game. Oh, there’s non-contact scrimmage in the spring game, but you don’t want non-contact scrimmage; you want football . . . and there is no football in the spring game.

I’m all for renewing hostilities with the Country Gentlemen, but there’s no use pussyfooting around with the Fort Hill Felines. Take off the green jerseys, break out the orange pants and the red britches, and play some football in the fall. The Arena League, the NFL, and whatever that European thing is that involves those metric four-point field goals provide me all the meaningless exhibitions I can stand. This is a competition that counts, not a ballet recital, for crying out loud.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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For the record

as much as we hate UGa at STS, I do not see the advantages of playing in spring outweighing the possible disadvantages.

Sure, it could bring us money, and would almost assuredly be a sellout game.

Would either fanbase be content losing this game, even if its exhibition? No. We’d take it as seriously as we normally take football games. It may mean nothing nationally, but it would to us, and coaches would be evaluated and possibly fired for poor showings in Spring combined with an average season, e.g., if a coach was on the hotseat in January, and lost the spring game, they’d try to can him. it would eventually set such a bad precedent.

After that, it would spiral into such importance that it would rival any regular-season match. Coaches would have incentives in their contracts, players would take it seriously and be injured, etc. etc.

Spring is meant to teach technique and fundamentals, you put game prep into it and you lose that.

by DrB on Mar 11, 2010 10:06 PM EST reply actions  

“You don’t hear Florida fans complaining that an annual game in Jacksonville provides Georgia with a Sunshine State recruiting beachhead, although we demonstrably and undeniably benefit from the location of the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party every February.”

You’re reaching.

by UgaMatt on Mar 12, 2010 6:14 AM EST reply actions  

Really?

Do you think Mark Richt is wrong that Nick Saban gains a recruiting toehold in Atlanta by playing neutral site season openers at the Georgia Dome? Do you think native Floridians Geno Atkins, Shaun Chapas, Bryan Evans, Jeremy Longo, Michael Moore, Aaron Murray, Jeff Owens, Carlton Thomas, and Blair Walsh thought it was irrelevant in an era in which the increased number of late afternoon and evening kickoffs made it increasingly difficult for fans outside the Atlanta area to make it to Sanford Stadium to games?

If you still favor moving the game, fine. That’s a reasonable position. Honestly, though, I’ve literally never heard anyone suggest that playing the game in Jacksonville wasn’t a huge boost in recruiting. If you believe it isn’t, though, that merely underscores the point I was trying to make. If you believe any potential recruiting benefit to Georgia isn’t enough to justify playing Florida in Jacksonville, then surely it follows that any potential recruiting benefit to Clemson isn’t enough to justify our refusing to play the Tigers in Athens.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Mar 12, 2010 7:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Lessons learned

There’s no such thing as sparring between rivals. When the gloves are strapped on, everyone is going for blood and victory. Keep it sanctioned and on the record. There is no point in going to war unless it counts.

by renegator on Mar 14, 2010 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Precisely

Well said.

Congrats on the Gators getting into the Big Dance, by the way.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Mar 14, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks T. Kyle.

The Gator roundballers got in by the slimmest of margins and by all reasonable accounts stand very little chance of advancement. However, this is springtime and hope does spring eternal. Go Gators! By the way, I just read “Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil” last week and I was fascinated with the reference to Mr. Seilor.

Good luck and God bless all good Dawgs.

by renegator on Mar 14, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

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