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Monday Night Dawg Bites: Who Dat Say Saints Make Him Wanna Puke? Edition

The Monday following Super Bowl Sunday is like an aluminum bat to the face, and trebly so if the team you (nominally) supported the day before lost. Granted, there is no outcome of any NFL game I could find truly fortunate or unfortunate---it’s the NFL; it’s basically just a waste of six or eight otherwise perfectly good years of collegiate eligibility (and, hey, I took forever to get through school, so why can’t they?)---but the Super Bowl marks the surest sign that football season is well and truly done.

Accordingly, in an effort to come to terms with the reality of the offseason, I bring you a brief rundown of goings-on around the blogosphere for your entertainment and, I hope, edification:

The national news media would nominate Drew Brees for Sainthood, but that would be redundant. I’ll admit it . . . I had a much stronger visceral reaction against the Saints than was warranted under the circumstances, partly because of an Atlanta-area native’s ingrained disdain for the longtime Falcons rival but mostly because I have been annoyed for a full decade over the absurdity of Drew Brees being named the MVP of the 2000 Outback Bowl, which his team lost to my team. I repeat: he was named the most valuable player in a game his team lost, even though his team’s defeat would appear to suggest that there were 85 scholarship athletes on the opposite sideline who were more valuable to their team than Brees was to his, since their team, you know, won, or something.

Nevertheless, we now find ourselves in a curious situation wherein Saints fans are praising a player who went to school in Indiana while mocking a Colts quarterback who grew up in the Big Easy. Go figure. In any case, Florida fans were rooting for the Saints, so I know I was right to favor Indianapolis.

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New Orleans head coach Sean Payton is gutless. At least, that’s what Brian Cook and Spencer Hall say, although I think they’re being more complimentary than they sound. Somewhere, there is someone who will play the Donald Kagan to the blogosphere’s George Will, but, in the meantime, the deromanticizing of athletics by mathematicians is undeniably accurate, inevitable, and regrettable. This, alas, makes sports much like a great deal else in life, which is precisely what dorky smart guys like me were trying to avoid in the realm of athletics in the first place before other dorky smart guys like us insisted upon bringing their intelligence and dorkitude to bear.

When raw recruits stop being recruits, shouldn’t they also stop being raw? Since I’ve unofficially assumed the responsibility for viewing as half-empty any glass Senator Blutarsky identifies as half-full, I am obligated to state that this is a testament to the Bulldogs’ gridiron underachievement. If a team lands eight top-ten recruiting classes in a decade and finishes with a top-ten postseason ranking only five times during that span, multiple players are failing to live up to their potential. Granted, the correlation is not one-to-one---we would do better to track the performance of the recruiting class from Year A in the football season of Year A+3---but look what Alabama, Florida, Louisiana State, Oklahoma, and Texas did in the 2000s with fewer top-ten recruiting hauls than the ‘Dawgs.

Paul Johnson would like to remind you that we don’t define them in any way. There’s trying too hard to find fault with a rival, and then there’s this:

Recruiting players you KNOW can't even get into school? Saint Richt goes Outlaw and sends his man to prep school for a year. Don't worry that they can't qualify, just keep that south Georgia pipeline open.....

That is a Georgia Tech fan’s unintentionally hilarious way of spinning what I actually wrote about Lonnie Outlaw:

Although the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Chip Towers reported that Outlaw will not qualify for freshman admission, the 6’7" receiver has earned the requisite ACT score. At the Bulldogs’ request, Coach Ledford faxed Outlaw’s ACT score to Athens before a formal offer was made.

Once the new Georgia signee’s test result was received, an offer sheet bearing the signatures of Mark Richt and Damon Evans was sent and Outlaw became a Bulldog. Because he needs additional credits, he will come to Athens by way of Milledgeville, where he will attend Georgia Military College.

Georgia signed a two-star athlete after confirming the adequacy of his ACT score and sent him to Georgia Military College because he still needed additional credit-hours to complete his coursework. You really have to work at it to characterize that as "[r]ecruiting players you KNOW can’t even get into school," particularly since Mark Richt has an admirable track record of signing recruits who pass muster academically. It’s not like our registrar’s office certified numerous ineligible athletes in multiple sports over a period of at least seven years or anything. . . .

Since all of us are out to get you, your paranoia is just a sign of clear thinking. Sports Illustrated’s Andy Staples---presumably another of those ubiquitous Gator-haters just looking for ways to take every little thing out of context to make Urban Meyer look bad---wrote the following about the "turmoil" (his word) in Gainesville leading up to national signing day:

Meyer resigned, citing health reasons, on Dec. 26. He changed his mind the next day, saying he would take an indefinite leave of absence. He kept on working, and during that time, he had to replace his defensive coordinator, his secondary coach, his running backs coach and his receivers coach/recruiting coordinator.

Despite all that -- and despite Meyer staying off the road much of January -- Meyer and his staff managed to assemble one of the nation's best classes. . . . With so many staff members in flux, the players already on the roster turned out to be some of Florida's best recruiters.

So having a staff in flux presented an obstacle for Florida, and George Edwards left the day after signing day. Nope, nothing to see here, huh?

Maybe the mention of Bo Derek in the Super Bowl open comment thread got me thinking about rating women on a scale on which ten indicates perfection. . . . Last Friday night’s season-high score brought the Gym Dogs’ average up to 195.85, good for ninth in this week’s rankings. Georgia’s losses were to No. 2 Alabama, No. 4 Utah, and No. 14 Auburn.

Mark Fox has his team playing incompetently, which actually represents an improvement. Did Georgia’s 72-58 basketball victory over Vandy produce a final score that truly reflected the course of the contest? Not according to Train Island, it didn’t:

Judging by the numbers, it looks like Vanderbilt was lucky to come out with only a 14 point loss. The only key statistic that the Commodores came out ahead on was turnovers - 11 for VU compared to 21 for UGA. That opens up a whole other can of worms though - how do you force 21 turnovers and lose by 14 points? . . .

The team uncharacteristically fell apart in the second half after playing the first held together by streaky shooting and Bulldog mistakes. The only reason this game was close at any point was because of Georgia's incompetence. As a wise man said in the game thread: "Georgia's primary offense play is[/was] the turnover." Once the Bulldogs played with the composure of a Division I team, it didn't take them long to unravel the 'Dores.

It was a quality win for the Fox Hounds, but, when an opposing fan attempting in good faith to describe the game makes legitimate reference to your team’s "incompetence," you still have a long way to go. Winning two in a row and/or one on the road would be a nice start.

Because I don’t spend enough autumn Saturdays being obnoxious to people wearing orange. Clemson has released its 2010 football schedule and the Country Gentlemen have out-of-conference games against two teams with whom the Tigers share much history: Auburn and Presbyterian.

The first three men to serve as head football coach at Fort Hill all were alumni of the Alabama Polytechnic Institute, and one of them, Clemson football founder Walter Riggs, later hired John Heisman to coach the Orange and Purple after having previously hired him to coach the Plainsmen while serving as the manager at Auburn. The Blue Hose, while never rising to the level of a genuine rival, regularly served as Clemson’s season-opening punching bag before Frank Howard recognized that Presbyterian provided no preparation for the tough slate that followed. The "Death Valley" nickname was first applied to Memorial Stadium by a head coach of the Blue Stockings.

Good for Clemson for reaching back into the Tigers’ past and scheduling teams with whom the Fort Hill Felines share significant history. If the Country Gentlemen have any more such dormant rivalries---and they do---perhaps it’s time to revive them more frequently, as well. I’m just saying.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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Donald Kagan

I have a couple of Kagan’s books. He is a wonderfully talented author and historian. Not sure what – if anything – this has to do with UGA Athletics, but what makes DawgSports.com so great is that Donald Kagan gets mentioned at all.

Kagan wrote a book (On the Origins of War and the Preservation of Peace, Doubleday, New York, 1995) that anyone and everyone interested in the use of violence and war as an instrument of politics should read.

by Blogger who came in from the cold on Feb 8, 2010 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

So long as . . .

Kyle doesn’t post an image of the cover of Kagan’s The Fall of the Athenian Empire following a GymDog loss, I am also OK with a Kagan mention.

And I second the above recommendation, if for no other reason than the nod to Thucydides, who may well have been the Lou Holtz of the ancient world, a soldier on the field of battle who laid down his sword only to chronicle the battle in less than accurate fashion.

by MaconDawg on Feb 9, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

While that's a fine analogy . . .

. . . I wouldn’t want to be standing in front of Lou Holtz while he tried to say “Thucydides.” I might drown.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Feb 9, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I loathe the offseason

Monday was definitely a slap in the face with an aluminum baseball bat, but in my case, said bat was left out in the frozen cold first. It’s winter, there was $n0w here today, it’s cold and there’s no more football. What a horrible, horrible day. It’s going to be a very long 208 days until the first game of the 2010 season.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Feb 8, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

Auburn vs. Clemson

For whom do you cheer?

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Feb 9, 2010 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

Is globothermal nuclear war an option?

"We have a lot of passionate fans at Georgia and we look forward to giving them something to be positive about."
-Todd Grantham.

by RedCrake on Feb 9, 2010 12:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Shall we play a game?

And, ummm, Clemson. There’s no way, ever, ever get drunk enough to cheer for Auburn.

"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"

by Stuck in the Plains on Feb 9, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That truly is a tough one...

I was raised in a household of mostly Auburn fans until about 5th grade, when my older brother defected and went to Georgia. My grandfather went to Auburn, my uncle…my father was accepted there and even had his dorm assignment, but the family moved across the state, making Auburn a six hour drive rather than a two hour drive and thus ending any possibility of attending Auburn in 1969. That being said, I have several friends who attended Clemson and they’ve always been my favorite team in the ACC. Ultimately, I think I’ll have to pull for Auburn because of the jaded SEC homerism law, but I won’t say that I’ll be hugely disappointed if the outcome is otherwise.

by hailtogeorgia on Feb 9, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Thinking back on the Peach Bowl a few years ago...

I found myself not cheering for Auburn. Don’t get me wrong…I don’t like Clemson and when I was at UGA this was a fierce, natural rivalry that became a casualty of Conference expansion.

No, Auburn can never be cheered for. Not on a train, not on a plain. Not in a house, not with a mouse. We pretty much hate Auburn around these parts. Annual meetings. Spoiler of seasons. Recruiting nemesis, Arch rival. Too much history, too much hate. Auburn delenda est.

Oh, and as if I needed another reason to never pull for Auburn: I recall screaming at the television the last time these two institutions got together over this guy: Ryan Pugh, #50 on your roster, #5 on Doug Gillett’s 50 “Most Loathsome People in College Football.” How this guy is still allowed to play football is beyond me. He’ll be a senior this season. He should’ve never made past his freshman season. I guess Pugh’s definition of a “down lineman” is a lineman who is down because he is writing in pain from a blown-out knee.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Feb 9, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

100 cocktails for the Dr. Seuss reference

While I believe The Cat in the Hat is a subversive Freudian tract best read as a “Seinfeld” episode (with Kramer as the cat, Jerry as the fish, and George as the boy), Green Eggs and Ham is particularly appropriate, because it contains a question you should never ask an Auburn fan: “Would you, could you, with a goat?” His answer may make you quote Lewis Grizzard: “Damn, brother, I don’t believe I’d’ve told that!”

It’s been a good week for quotable comments at Dawg Sports. We may have to take a poll for comment of the week.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Feb 9, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Clemson.

I hate Auburn.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Feb 9, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

i am too tired and drained to read a 5 page post about the superbowl. )

"I look forward to developing an aggressive, physical, attacking style defense that offenses will not look forward to playing against." - Coach Grantham

by tankertoad on Feb 9, 2010 12:26 AM EST reply actions  

In my defense, it wasn't just about the Super Bowl

I even provided pithy paragraph headings and everything.

Speaking of pithy paragraph headings, Sprints says the George Edwards thing was no big deal because . . . one of the Gators’ signees says so. Yeah, there’s an impartial source for you!

Also, we now know how many baseball games are scheduled to be televised for each SEC team. C&F says LSU is overexposed, but I think the bigger injustice is Florida getting on TV so much. There are lots of good reasons for highlighting the Bayou Bengals, but what did the Gators do to deserve so much love? In an even-numbered year, the Diamond Dogs deserve at least as much screen time as the Orange and Blue.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Feb 9, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

it was a good tid bit article now that I read it )

"I look forward to developing an aggressive, physical, attacking style defense that offenses will not look forward to playing against." - Coach Grantham

by tankertoad on Feb 9, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

People can say what they wish about our "incompetence" with the roundball...

But when teams repeatedly underperform against you (7 of 8 SEC games), at some point one must realize that the only common thread in those games is the Georgia Bulldogs.

There’s a reason teams consistently shoot significantly below their season average against Georgia week in and week out. That reason is Mark Fox.

"We have a lot of passionate fans at Georgia and we look forward to giving them something to be positive about."
-Todd Grantham.

by RedCrake on Feb 9, 2010 12:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Rambo seems ready for some football...

I was surfing through the interwebs and saw this….

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/155870-vols-recruit-uga-safety-fight-war-of-words

I knew that he had posted something but wasn’t sure what but it appears that they are still at it. Does anyone know what is being said or is CNN just making a mountain out of a Vol hill?

Freedom is not free!

by McSlugger on Feb 9, 2010 7:15 AM EST reply actions  

I haven't heard anything more since Rambo's original Facebook statement . . .

. . . and, although it was clear to whom he was referring, he didn’t name names.

If this is ongoing, they both need to cool it. The kid decided to go elsewhere; that’s all there was to it. This is about Georgia and Tennessee, not about Da’Rick Rogers and Bacarri Rambo. They should let it drop and let their play on the field speak for itself.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Feb 9, 2010 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

FYI:

There’s more here.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Feb 9, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

most excellent! an FB war!

"I look forward to developing an aggressive, physical, attacking style defense that offenses will not look forward to playing against." - Coach Grantham

by tankertoad on Feb 9, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't seem to be much of a war...

From Rambo’s FB:
Feb 2 – Thinks is messed up how all of UGA high school commitments back out on us but I’m telling you now when I catch you on the field I’m going to knock fire from you.
Feb 4 – I don’t want to run over no toes on the road so y’all just back up and let me come thru.
That’s it, no status updates between, or since.

"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain

by podunkdawg on Feb 9, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Paul Johnson's

window of opportunity has closed. Now he must resort to inaccurate digs at his biggest rival over a player that he obviously coveted.

Tech may have lost more key players to the NFL that were critical to what the do offensively than any one else in the nation. All they have left is a gargoyle quarterback with no one to throw to and a gimmicky offense that has been figured out.

"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell

by DavetheDawg on Feb 9, 2010 7:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Agreed.

What we’re hearing from PJ is the shrill shrieks of a desperate individual. He’s desperate to convince his team and his fans that a conference title is all the matters, and they should just “shrug off” their setbacks to their in-state rival and let it go.

He doesn’t want to lose the first-season momentum that he generated among his fan base. The fact that he’s in danger of doing just that after a conference championship season is all the evidence you need to be convinced that the Georgia Tech fans define themselves primarily by whether or not they can beat Georgia.

by vineyarddawg on Feb 9, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

On this...
but look what Alabama, Florida, Louisiana State, Oklahoma, and Texas did in the 2000s with fewer top-ten recruiting hauls than the ‘Dawgs.

We had three losing seasons, three 10+ seasons, and four with seven wins. Plus, during most of the Aughts, the power was in the East…Anyone getting out of there with 1 loss was ecstatic, 2 was more the norm and/or expected. I don’t think it’s a player development issue so much as the competition during most of the 00’s.

"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"

by Stuck in the Plains on Feb 9, 2010 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

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