Instantaneous Ill-Informed Roundball Wrapup: Georgia Bulldogs 73, Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 72
by T Kyle King on Dec 7, 2010 9:23 PM EST
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PrintIn a series notable for offering an overwhelming home court advantage, Mark Fox’s Bulldogs went on the road and claimed a 73-72 victory over in-state rival Georgia Tech in Alexander Memorial Coliseum. In many respects, the game was as even as the score indicated.
Both teams shot 44.3 per cent from the field, with each squad sinking 27 of 61 two-point shots. Georgia and Georgia Tech garnered ten fouls apiece, and the Yellow Jacket bench contributed 18 points, just four more than the Bulldog reserves added to the tally.
In other facets, though, the game was a mismatch. The Engineers dominated the boards, pulling down 43 rebounds to the Red and Black’s 30, and the home team hit ten of twelve free throws (83.3%) while the visitors struggled to go seven of 15 from the charity stripe (46.7%).
The Bulldogs benefited from twelve-of-22 shooting from beyond the arc (54.5%) as the Golden Tornado managed to get just eight of their 20 three-point tries to drop (40.0%). Perhaps most significantly, Georgia Tech turned the ball over twice as frequently as Georgia (14-7), and the Red and Black turned those steals into 15 points, more than offsetting the ten ticks put on the scoreboard by the Ramblin’ Wreck off of takeaways.
Despite their slow start, the Hoop Dogs overcame a 35-29 halftime deficit and stormed back to score 44 points in the second half, led by Trey Thompkins’s and Dustin Ware’s respective 21-point performances. Thompkins hit four of five free throws, while Ware went seven of nine both from two-point range and from three-point range.
Ware’s symmetrical shooting performance was a nice touch, as it allowed the fans of the home team to drown their sorrows with mental pictures of Jeri Ryan while the Red and Black faithful did what Bulldog fans do; namely, celebrate yet another victory over Georgia Tech in yet another sport.
Go ‘Dawgs!
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Wow, old school reference there Kyle
Jeri Ryan? Voyager hasn’t been on the air in 10 years. There’s got to be some newer nerd bait out there for you to reference. I mean, most of the current NATS weren’t out of middle school when Ryan was still wearing a silver/grey catsuit.
You could always go with Number Six from Battlestar Galactica
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't." - Lewis Grizzard
Ok, Six was an attention getter, but, still, Jeri was cover model beautiful.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Touche
Allow me to retort
Helfer has graced the covers of Flare, Amica, ELLE, Cosmopolitan, Marie Claire, and Vogue, among others. She also regularly appeared in photo shoots by Maxim magazine, was the magazine’s wall calendar girl for 2005, and was ranked #57 on the Maxim’s Hot 100 Women of 2007.8 She also posed nude for the February 2007 issue of Playboy.
I’m not taking anything away from Jeri…. but Techies are looking for “a certain morally flexible attitude”
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't." - Lewis Grizzard
I am familiar with her body of work. : )
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
by tankertoad on Dec 7, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Woo
Hoo.
"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones
by Jman781 on Dec 7, 2010 9:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Just like in football
GT fans walk away lamenting just one extra point.
Love it.
"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones
by Jman781 on Dec 7, 2010 9:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Dawgs Win! Dawgs Win!
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't." - Lewis Grizzard
by RedCrake on Dec 7, 2010 9:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Beating Tech
Never gets old. And there is a new basketball power in Georgia.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Dec 7, 2010 9:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Aside from what this means about Hewitt
This can’t hurt recruiting. Then again, we already signed the #1 player in the state.
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't." - Lewis Grizzard
It'll help in March...
win at least 10 more once SEC play starts (meaning 10-6 in the SEC, or 9-7 + an win over Xavier) and we should go dancing. We now have two true road wins, @ St Louis and @ Tech, so a road win against a major conference team should look nice on the resume come Selection Sunday in RPI.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
Right there with ya
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't." - Lewis Grizzard
Looking at our schedule,...
that puts the magic number at 21 wins on the year. Get that 21st win, and we should be in.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 7, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is incredibly helpful, Mr. Sanchez.
(And I mean that in a totally-serious way, not in a sarcastic, snarky way. I can imagine that it’s hard to tell sometimes.)
For those of us who are not basketball aficionados, seeing this number helps us to have a target to shoot at. We want at least 9 or 10 SEC wins, and 21 wins overall to expect to make it to the tournament.
Yeah, someone really needs to get to work on making a sarcasm font...
for computer typed sarcasm to be more easily detected.
But that’s what I’m thinking. We’ve got 5 gimmes between now and when SEC play starts. You’ll want to do better than .500 in conference, and 9-7 makes it a little bit borderline. Add a win over Xavier (since that’s in February and they’ll almost certainly be a quality team), or a 10th conference win, and that should get us in, instead of having us sweat Selection Sunday hoping our bubble doesn’t burst. So currently at 6 + 5 on the weak sisters until SEC play +9 + 1 more either SEC or Xavier = 21 and an invitation to go dancing.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
I like your reasoning
It’s good to see someone break it down for the less aquainted. I agree whole heartedly with your summation of the season. A win over Xavier is a little more than your run of the mill quality win too. 9-7 without the win over Xavier and a nice run to the semi-finals or better of the SEC tourney would secure the dancecard as well.
Ware was 7-9 from 3
he didn’t attempt a 2. If he went 7-9 from both, he’d have been 14-18 overall, and had at least 35 points.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
My bad.
Obviously, I just ripped and read, and I didn’t do the math.
In my defense, gametracker listed him as seven of nine from both, and the emphasis here is on “instantaneous,” but you’re right, that should’ve looked odd to me, and I shouldn’t have simply repeated it without thinking.
As long as I got to make my “seven of nine” joke, though, I’m happy.
Go 'Dawgs!
If it was in the name of comedy, by all means...
and considering the “instantaneous” is pretty damn quick, a few minor mistakes are to be expected.
http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/
I see what you did there
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
Also means that Mark Fox
is undefeated vs. Da Nerds. And the Marks (as a collective) are 11-1 v. Tech.
We have a the easier stretch of our season coming up so we should go into SEC play at 11-2. Not too bad of a start.
As long as we don't drop a stupid one (or as I call it "Felton Syndrome") we should be in pretty good shape.
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't." - Lewis Grizzard
Its getting pretty suspicious if you ask me
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Dec 7, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
It's okay. Really
You can be a Georgia fan and still like Star Trek. There’s no rule against that. World of Warcraft? That’s the deal breaker.
I'm thoroughly relieved to read that
because I love Trek. I’m nerdy in many ways that don’t relate to football.
by Cherokee's Grip on Dec 8, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
What Cherokee's Grip wrote applies to me, as well.
I agree with blackertai about the acceptability of “Star Trek” and the unacceptability of World of Warcraft.
I concede that I am a Trekkie. I would add further than I am an old-school Trekkie, so I have no patience for those younger Trekkies who want to be called “Trekkers.”
(I would note, by the way, that my computer put the squiggly red “misspelling” line under “blackertai” and “Warcraft,” but not under “Trekkie” or “Trekker.”)
Go 'Dawgs!
Monster win
That’s two OOC road wins on the year, one against a Big 6, the other against a little-bit-better-than-a-mid-major (the A-10 is always in limbo). Not the greatest victories in the world- neither Tech nor St. Louis are all that good- but still a signal to the NCAA committee that this team is worth something. After the disappointing Orlando trip, we had to sweep UAB and Tech. And we did.
The SEC is all over the place. 10-6 is not out of the question.
Although I should note
WE. HAVE. TO. SHOOT. FREE. THROWS. BETTER.
Un-fixed, this is going to cost us another game. Already lost us the ND game.
Jeri Ryan
Semi-responsible for Barack Obama being the President of the United States.
If you want help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(politician)
I haven't clicked on that link, because I know all I need to know about Jack Ryan . . .
. . . from watching “The Hunt for Red October”!
Go 'Dawgs!
Good win
and I know I am putting myself at risk for geting flamed again, but this team has some maddening and inexplicable habits. Once again, another inferior team-just like Notre Dame and Manhattan—sticks around because the free throw shooting is poor and, this time, the rebounding is awful How this very big team fails to win every rebound matchup is a mystery.
What is coming along, though, is that we are attacking the zone much more effectively. It is encouraging to see not only Brantley and Ware shooting the ball so well against the zone but also see the occasional breakdown by Robinson and occasional pass through the high post to the bigs down low. The last play for Ware’s three to win it was a thing of beauty, a textbook example of inside-out play that created a good shot against the zone.
I don't disagree with your points
But I would say a couple of things.
1) Part of the reason Tech was in this game is that they hit 3’s like mad to start the game. But you’re right that hitting the FT’s could have put it away earlier.
2) Once again, crazily bouncing shots that went way out behind the arc hurt us in the rebound stats. To me, the team seemed to be crashing the boards much more than they had which (counter-intuitively) led to this issue.
Nonetheless, there are still many areas in which we need to improve.
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't." - Lewis Grizzard
by RedCrake on Dec 7, 2010 10:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"Part of the reason Tech was in this game is that they hit 3’s like mad to start the game."
Will look up stats later, but I’m pretty sure we’ve been lousy against perimeter shooting the entire year. Another thing to note.
Agreed
Though to our credit, Fox adjusted and we shut that down except for a few blown coverages when things got hectic toward the end.
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't." - Lewis Grizzard
by RedCrake on Dec 7, 2010 10:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is correct.
Opponents have been averaging an astounding 42.1% from behind the arc before tonight’s game (we werevaveraging only 28.7%). Thats good for 329th in all of division 1 basketball which includes 345 teams. VERY bad.
On the other hand, we are averaging a Block% that is 14th best in the country so our defensive post play has been stout.
Not a problem.
Hey, I’m the guy who read “2-pt.: 7-9,” “3-pt.: 7-9,” and “21 pts.,” and didn’t see anything wrong with that! :)
Go 'Dawgs!
I watched the second half only
and I saw very few long rebound shots, though Rice did have 11 rebounds. Daniel Miller had nine in 28 minutes; our high rebounder was six.
Another thing that happened on occasion was poor rotations on defense…they got to the rim pretty easily more times than they should have, just with dribble drives, and no one rotated over quickly enough to challenge the shot.
I really think this is a bad GT team that will finish near the bottom of the ACC. A win is a win, I guess, and I see improvement, but it looks like a two-steps-forward-one-step-back kind of progress. It’s about time to blow the doors off somebody with a complete performance.
As I said...
I agree with everything you’re saying. But there were enough long rebounds going Tech’s way for the announcers to comment on it several times… though many may have come in the first half (I don’t recall).
Regardless, the concerns you raise are more than valid.
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't." - Lewis Grizzard
by RedCrake on Dec 7, 2010 11:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's some valid analysis there, rbubp.
I wasn’t aware you’d been flamed before, though I confess I may have missed it. I regret it if that happened.
Go 'Dawgs!
I suggested that they looked poorly-coached after the ND game
which was not taken so well in all corners. Sometimes I could certainly select more effective words, admittedly; I intended for it to be clear that “looked” is not that same as “is.” But, as non-sarcastically as vineyarddawg was above, it is easy to muddy that point with poor phrasing, and I’m oft times guilty.
I still think they look poorly-coached for a team that has so many veteran players. Some of the things I mean by that are lack of consistent attention to basics: free throws, blocking out, defensive rotations on not juswt cutters—that’s hard enough—but dribble-drive penetration (as stopping the ball is job 1, 2, and 3 in BB defense). However, I recognize that they looked less poorly-coached last night than they did against ND, especially in the second half, and I really hope the progress can continue. I am worried, though, that without amped-up progress we may not be able to take 10 games in the SEC (which is an accurate assessment, I think, to make the NCAAs) if we don’t get a fair piece tighter on the details.
I agree with you too rbubp
Free throw shooting is a problem. Defending a dribble drive is all about getting help and recovering, but as you note, I didn’t see a great job of that last night. Rebounding might be a problem, at least as you are relating to rebounding. I’ll explain, don’t want to appear to be a flame thrower. I know several coaches who have a different approach to rebounding than I have. I am a traditionalist in that area of the game, i.e. plant your butt squarely on the thigh of your man and prevent him from getting to the basketball; if all 5 of our guys do their job well, there’s no way the other team can get a rebound. Others have the approach of “hitting” your man then tracking down the rebound. In theory, I see why they think this will work, but so far I haven’t been convinced it’s the most effective method of rebounding. Their thoughts are that once you slow down and redirect the other team’s players you need to go get the ball.
I don’t know what Coach Fox’s philosophy on rebounding is, but whatever it is could be the reason we don’t appear to be rebounding as effectively as you and I think the Dogs should. Maybe the guys just aren’t acclamated to that philosophy yet, even in year 2.
One last thought before I push off
OOC sked gets easy quick for a while. If we don’t have any meltdowns, we’ll be 11-2 going into SEC play.
Personally
I was astounded at the ticky-tacky nature of the foul calls. Leslie’s first was out of nowhere from what i could see on ESPN3. I’m not sure how in this game Tech is if the ref isn’t calling fouls on Leslie all night.
pretty amazing.
"Now, I'm gonna go get off my horse by getting onto a smaller horse, and then onto a large dog, until I'm near enough to the ground to roll off."
by Bravely going forward on Dec 8, 2010 12:11 AM EST reply actions
Some balance has returned to my off-kilter sports universe
DAWGS WIN AGAIN!!!
I am very pleased that for yet another entire year
the North Avenue Trade School can whine about
LOSING TWICE TO THE DAWGS!!!
How sweet it is!!!
"...maybe a couple bottle rockets/light the fuse/point it out the window and watch it/ okay, maybe not, nevermind/ let's be responsible/where's the moonshine?
They did beat us at Women's Bball
Although, truthfully, I’m always surprised to learn they have enough girls for a full team.
we fired our VBall coach thereafter )
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
sorry, was meaning Volley Ball coach - mis read your post.
Although Coach Landers probably is on the hot seat very seriously.
"One thing I will never do as long as I’m at Georgia is lose to Florida." - Herschel Walker
If anyone has any doubt about whether Coach Mark Fox has established his "Dawg Credentials"...
… check out the following quote, which he said on the radio in the postgame interview with Scott Howard. Scott asked him if playing Georgia Tech was kind of like playing family, and CMF whipped out this little gem:
I will never consider them family.
Now that’s the answer of a DGD.
by vineyarddawg on Dec 8, 2010 7:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
That right there
warms my heart on this cold, cold morning.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
Since when is your little brother not part of the family?
It’s an awesome quotation, though, and definitely shows that he has the right attitude.
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