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Week 13 BlogPoll Ballot: Auburn Tigers Cement Hold on No. 1 Ranking; Big 12 Muddle Dominates Nos. 10-14

I was a little pressed for time when compiling this week’s BlogPoll ballot, so I welcome your constructive criticisms in the short span of time separating the publication of this posting from the submission deadline. In particular, if you know of any four-loss teams that are worthy of inclusion (or if you wish to state a case for three-loss Hawaii or Tulsa), by all means, let me know in the comments below. As matters stand, here are the top 25 teams in the land from my perspective:

I will be happy to answer any questions or consider any feedback left in the comments, but, generally speaking, these are my reasons for ranking the teams as I have:

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  • Finally, the official rankings state what I have said all along: Auburn is a more accomplished team than Oregon. The Ducks and the Plainsmen both are 8-0 in conference play, but Auburn has beaten No. 5 Arkansas, No. 7 Louisiana State, No. 15 South Carolina, No. 16 Alabama, and eight-win Mississippi State, whereas Oregon has defeated No. 8 Stanford, seven-win Arizona and Southern California, Division I-AA Portland State, and six Division I-A squads with losing records. I considered ranking Texas Christian ahead of the Pac-10 champions, since the Horned Frogs have bested five teams above .500, but TCU’s best win (over No. 22 Utah) was markedly inferior to the Ducks’ best triumph.
  • While I understand the argument for letting margin of victory break the Big Ten deadlock, I am much less inclined to reward Bret Bielema for being a smirking jackass who runs up scores than I am to recognize the simple reality of head-to-head competition: Michigan State beat Wisconsin, and Wisconsin beat Ohio State, and all three teams finished with identical records, overall and in conference play, while none secured a marquee (or even particularly meaningful) out-of-conference win. (The Spartans’ three Division I-A non-conference opponents have a combined 17-18 record, the Badgers’ three Division I-A non-conference opponents have a combined 8-27 record, and the Buckeyes’ four Division I-A non-conference opponents have a combined 22-26 record.) All other things being equal---and all other things are---what ought to matter most is who beat whom.
  • Six wins over teams with winning records (including No. 6 Wisconsin) earned the Spartans the No. 4 spot ahead of the Hogs, who rode a trio of quality victories (over No. 7 LSU, No. 13 Texas A&M, and No. 15 South Carolina) and a pair of respectable losses (to No. 1 Auburn and No. 16 Alabama) to the No. 5 ranking. The Badgers edged out the Bayou Bengals on the strength of Wisconsin’s win over No. 9 Ohio State, but Louisiana State earned the No. 7 spot with wins over No. 16 Alabama and No. 21 West Virginia, coupled with quality losses in close road contests against a pair of top five teams. For all the sparkle and glitter of the Cardinal’s stellar record, eight of Stanford’s eleven wins came against Division I-AA opposition or teams with losing ledgers, and Jim Harbaugh’s outfit has yet to defeat a team with more than seven wins to its credit. The Buckeyes likewise have beaten only one team with a record better than 7-5, and that team is 8-4 Ohio (Ohio).
  • Then begins a tangled muddle of massed Big 12 teams. The Sooners finished at the head of the pack with the No. 10 ranking by virtue of beating No. 11 Oklahoma State and No. 20 Florida State while dropping road contests to a pair of top fifteen teams. The Cowboys sport the same record as the Sooners, but Oklahoma State lost to Oklahoma at home. Nevertheless, the Pokes finished in front of Mizzou because Mike Gundy’s club lost only to 10-2 division champions, whereas the Tigers lost to seven-win Texas Tech. A better record and a head-to-head win still kept Missouri ahead of the Aggies, but victories over both Nebraska and Oklahoma (along with losses to a trio of 10-2 teams in the top twelve) kept Texas A&M ahead of a Cornhusker unit that lost at home to a Texas outfit with a losing record.
  • The Gamecocks might have edged Nebraska for the No. 14 spot, but the Palmetto State Poultry were embarrassed by Arkansas at home and fell to a .500 Kentucky club on the road. In addition, South Carolina’s best win (over No. 16 Alabama) was not of the same caliber as the Cornhuskers’ (over No. 11 Oklahoma State and No. 12 Missouri). The head-to-head result still kept the ‘Cocks in front of the Crimson Tide, but a quality win over the Razorbacks and a losses to three top fifteen teams kept Alabama ahead of the Wolf Pack, whose second-best victim after Boise State was a Fresno State club sporting a 7-4 ledger. The Broncos dropped behind the Nevada team that just bested BSU, as Boise State’s resume (featuring wins over six teams below .500, including three-win Wyoming, two-win New Mexico State, and one-win San Jose State) lacks the heft to survive a blemish. The Broncos remain in front of their most accomplished victim, a ten-win VPI team with only one win over a team with a record better than 7-5 and a loss to Division I-AA James Madison.
  • The pickings get rather slim thereafter. The Seminoles, whose best win is over eight-win Maryland and whose losses came to three teams with a combined 25-11 record, narrowly beat out the Mountaineers, whose best win is over eight-win Maryland and whose losses came to three teams with a combined 24-11 record. The Utes cling to close wins over Air Force, Pittsburgh, and San Diego State to validate their 10-2 ledger, and the Huskies likewise point to victories over a pair of 8-4 outfits to justify their inclusion. The Midshipmen’s wins over Notre Dame and Southern Methodist barely allowed them to overcome a close loss to three-win Duke, and a dearth of otherwise acceptable options was all that allowed the Knights to sneak into the poll, despite UCF’s failure to beat so much as a single team with a winning record in the course of its 9-3 campaign.

I watched all or part of Miami (Ohio)-Temple on Tuesday, Texas-Texas A&M on Thursday, and Alabama-Auburn, Arizona-Oregon, and Boise State-Nevada on Friday before viewing much of Kentucky-Tennessee and attending Georgia-Georgia Tech on Saturday.

As always, your questions and constructive criticisms are most welcome in the comments below.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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That a 1-Loss Auburn team, if they lose to the Gamecocks, should still go to the mNC?

I would put TCU in over them; however, when compared to the other 1-loss teams, Auburn’s resume that includes wins over Bama, LSU, Arky, Miss. State, UGA (ha…I had to do it), and what would be the SEC Champs, would be better than any other 1-loss team’s resume.

What say you?

"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones

by Jman781 on Dec 1, 2010 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

Honestly, I haven't looked at it yet, and, since the value of a given win fluctuates . . .

. . . based on what the defeated team does in subsequent weeks, I am not yet in a position to answer that question intelligently, because, even if I assume an Auburn loss on Saturday, I don’t know what the other teams will do.

I sincerely hope I have the opportunity to answer your question next week, however!

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Dec 1, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I, for one, love the traditions of college football ...

….., many of which are going away.

Glad to see Nebraska-Oklahoma playing again – and in a game that means something. Pulling for the ’Huskers due to my homie, #15 Alphonzo Dennard.

It's a gas, gas, gas.

by Keith Richards on Dec 1, 2010 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

Top 25

As I looked over the 25 team that you posted, I doubt that the 23,24,25 ranked teams listed would be able to compete with our dawgs on any given day. I know that wins/losses go a long way in this and thats the very reason collage football needs a playoff system. Padded schedules are such an easy way to compile a winning record. Playing other great football teams are what will determine just how good team really is…

by Ogeechee River Dawg on Dec 1, 2010 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

In principle, I agree with you, Ogeechee River Dawg.

However, as I prove on a weekly basis in “Don’t Bet On It!”, I am bad at forecasting the outcomes of football games, so I rank according to resumes in order to be able to rely on actual on-field achievements rather than my subjective projections.

Nevertheless, you are right that some 8-4 teams undoubtedly have accomplished more than some 9-3 teams. For my postseason poll, I will have time to delve into that in greater depth, and I hope I will be able to avoid the “filler” at the bottom of the top 25.

By the way, we may find out just how well my No. 25 team could compete with Georgia, because, if UCF wins this Saturday, we may be looking at the Bulldogs and the Knights in Memphis!

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Dec 1, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

And the Bammers lose it entirely.

I am astonished by their boards. I had popped over to one just as this information was being released. They had been in complete Bammer conspiracy theory mode. It is truly amazing. They had Pat Dye, Cam Newton, Bobby Lowder and the Yella Fella (no idea who that is) being arrested tonight or tomorrow morning (“just as soon as they can finish gitt’n them indatments typed up”), the FBI shutting down Auburn, Auburn “loosing” (sic) its SACS “accredidation” (sic), Auburn being kicked out of the SEC and the NCAA, the “Yella Fella” having a helicopter on standby in a hidden field in the woods “above Dothan” to take himself, his wife and their “younguns” to the Bahamas to “avoid justiss,” ad nauseam…

And then suddenly:

“Them NCAA bastards hate us and they love them assholes down at the barn! Boo Hoo! Boo Hoo! Boo Hoo Hoo Hoo! Boooooooooooooooooo… HOO!”

Incredible. Though they finally got one thing correct: The NCAA is partial to Auburn and has no use for Alabama. And they only have so much use for Georgia, but don’t tell anyone here that.

by Stephen1980 on Dec 1, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Here We Go, Baby!

Just bring everything we’ve got these next 4 quarters against a tough SC team. Weagle Weagle WAR DAMN EAGLE! And best of luck to the Dawg Family in your bowl game!
-WarDamnCivilEngineer

by WarDamnCE on Dec 1, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks, WarDamnCE.

I would wish y’all luck, as well, but you know I’d be lying. Since our rivalry is institutional rather than personal, though, I will say that I hope you and the rest of the Auburn faithful had a happy Thanksgiving, and I hope all y’all have a merry Christmas and a happy new year.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Dec 1, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

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