How Do You Solve a Problem Like the Gators?: Notes on Restoring Balance in the Georgia Bulldogs' Most Important College Football Rivalry (Part IV)
When I began taking a look at the issue of the Georgia Bulldogs’ struggles with the Florida Gators over the last 21 years, I quickly dismissed as untenable the notion of de-emphasizing the game and instead came up with some alternative suggestions. The first of these was to game-plan and condition (both mentally and physically) for four full quarters of football. The brings me to my second recommendation, which is as follows:
2. Move the game. No, I’m not getting on board for taking the game out of Jacksonville; Greg McGarity has shown no desire to bring the contest to campus, and the current contract runs through 2016, so we don’t have time to wait on such a solution. (The notion that such a move represents a solution also assumes that Doug Gillett’s assessment is mistaken, and I, for one, am confident that Doug is correct, but, for now, the more important point is that, if we’re serious about reversing the current trend immediately, relocating from Duval Street is not an option.)
As Lakepoets noted, we need the SEC to share the bye; that is, the open date prior to the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party needs to be distributed equitably between the two teams. Fortunately, this is occurring. Next year, both teams have an open date before the showdown in Jacksonville. In 2012, Georgia has a bye week before the Florida game. Obviously, that helps to level the playing field, as the Gators clearly have benefited from the extra preparation time, but is that enough?
Here is the breakdown of the all-time series results by date (excluding ties):
| Date | Georgia Wins | Florida Wins |
|---|---|---|
| Oct. 14 | 1 | 0 |
| Oct. 15 | 1 | 0 |
| Oct. 25 | 1 | 1 |
| Oct. 26 | 0 | 1 |
| Oct. 27 | 1 | 1 |
| Oct. 28 | 0 | 3 |
| Oct. 29 | 1 | 2 |
| Oct. 30 | 2 | 3 |
| Oct. 31 | 1 | 3 |
| Nov. 1 | 1 | 2 |
| Nov. 2 | 1 | 2 |
| Nov. 3 | 1 | 0 |
| Nov. 4 | 1 | 0 |
| Nov. 5 | 5 | 4 |
| Nov. 6 | 6 | 2 |
| Nov. 7 | 6 | 2 |
| Nov. 8 | 4 | 2 |
| Nov. 9 | 4 | 4 |
| Nov. 10 | 3 | 6 |
| Nov. 11 | 5 | 2 |
| Nov. 13 | 1 | 0 |
The Red and Black used to celebrate the end of the fall campaign with "hate season," the three year-ending tilts against the Bulldogs’ three main rivals in back-to-back-to-back games: Georgia closed out the autumn against Florida, Auburn, and Georgia Tech annually from 1959 to 1995. Before the start of divisional play in the SEC in 1992 moved the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party closer to midseason, the Athenians typically readied themselves for the contest in Jacksonville with a weak non-conference opponent, whereas the Gators faced Auburn seven days before confronting Georgia each season from 1962, the year before Steve Spurrier arrived in Gainesville as a student-athlete, to 1991, the year after Steve Spurrier returned to Gainesville as the head coach.
The effect of this was obvious. During that 30-year stretch, Florida beat both the Bulldogs and the Tigers just six times while losing to each opponent in nine different seasons. The Sunshine State Saurians followed up a victory over the Plainsmen with a loss to the Classic City Canines nine times.
For a variety of reasons, there is nothing Greg McGarity can do to require the Gators to play the Tigers one week before the showdown by the St. John’s River, particularly now that Auburn is a rotating Western Division opponent for Florida. However, there is much McGarity can do about the placement of the Bulldogs’ open date and the scheduling of their lower-tier out-of-conference opponents.
Given the special circumstances surrounding the SEC’s only remaining traditional annual neutral site outing, it is reasonable for McGarity to lobby the league for a break in the conference schedule just prior to the Cocktail Party, so that either team could take a week off or tune up against a patsy. McGarity could point out to the SEC office that it is not in the league’s interests for either combatant to have an unfair advantage over the other, as that lessens interest in a rivalry that CBS, one of the conference’s major television partners, has arranged to air as a 3:30 game for the next several years.
It is as much in the SEC’s interests to have Georgia and Florida go 5-5 against one another over the next decade as it would be in NASCAR’s interests for Dale Earnhardt, Jr., to win a few races. Because the game garners such publicity, the SEC needs it to be good. Having tipped the scales in Florida’s favor by rearranging the schedule at the end of a two-decade run of Georgia dominance in the series, the SEC would do well to send the pendulum swinging back in the other direction for the same reason.
The above chart speaks for itself: Florida is 18-10-1 against Georgia in games played on or before November 2, whereas the Bulldogs are 37-22-1 against the Gators in outings taking place on or after November 3. The later we can push the game, and the more we can do to make the Saturday before the Cocktail Party an actual or functional bye week, the better off the Bulldogs will be.
(If we could move the Georgia Tech game earlier in the year and move the Auburn game to its traditional place at the end of the Georgia schedule, we could make the Florida game a week later and still have room for a breather between the game against the Gators and the game against the Plainsmen. I’m just saying.)
Go ‘Dawgs!
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While we're at it...
Could we move the South Carolina game to November? It would make me feel much better about our chances.
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't." - Lewis Grizzard
Red and Kyle, sounds like basically what people want is all games moved to November. That’s probably a symptom of our (now) long standing tradition of laying an egg (or two, or three) early and then finally getting our heads our of our asses late.
I think maybe we should fix that problem before we worry about moving schedules around, no?
Although I do agree the Georgia/Florida game should always have both teams either coming off a bye week or neither.
I was thinking more of South Carolina's propensity for losing it in November due primarily to depth issues
But, yeah, getting our crap together would solve the problem too. The question is, which of these two things is likely to happen first.
"I want anything wearing red and black to tear the head off anything that isn't." - Lewis Grizzard
How will this help?
I saw a stat recently that found that the team with the open date wins almost precisely 50% of the time. Is the UF game special for some reason?
That's an average that doesn't take schedule strength or home field advantage into account.
In this specific case, there is a good bit of historical evidence (up to and including last Saturday) that suggests that the open date matters.
To answer your second question, yes, it is special for some reason, because it pits relative equals at a neutral site, thus removing other factors from the equation. Last Saturday’s game pitted two evenly-matched teams. The team that had an extra week to prepare (and made clear adjustments during the bye week) came out ahead.
Look at it this way: Steve Spurrier fought hard to get an open date for the Gators before the Georgia game. While, obviously, many other factors went into Darth Visor’s dominance of the ‘Dawgs, that certainly helped. What’s good for the goose, &c.
Go 'Dawgs!
That sounds somewhat plausible
But what you call special circumstances, I call making the sample size smaller. Particularly when you cite last week, which is a very small sample size indeed :)
And while equally matched teams ought to be able to demonstrate the proposed “bye week advantage”, it should really show up when the team with the bye is outmatched (and will therefore be focusing their energies on extra preparation specifically for that opponent). But TSK asserts that, by their analysis, Bama is 3 times more likely to sweep it’s opponents because those opponents all have preceding bye weeks. I’m just as skeptical of that claim too (also owing to low sample size), but the point is the bye week advantage were real, surely something other than it’s inverse would show up in such analyses, right?
Then again, maybe the game is just so significant that it breaks the rules and UF really does go above and beyond with extra preparation. I certainly have never seen an offense come out so radically different from one game to the next as UF was last week with its 3 QBs.
I do agree with this.
100%. I don’t care if we have a BYE/Idaho State-ish opponent or an SEC team before we play the Gators. I just want Florida’s schedule to mirror ours. Thus, if we have an easy/off week before the game, so should they. If we have LSU the weekend before the game, they should have a similar SEC opponent on their schedule. It’s only fair in a game like this.
"You can't print what I said, but they have to catch us." - Chipper Jones
Yeah, that 2013 schedule is a piece of crap.
I hope McGarity raises some serious… uh, objections… in an attempt to that that pre-Florida date at Death Valley changed.
I think McGarity is going to be adopting this line of thinking
I really do. He knows how important the game is, but he’s trying some different tacts, at least publicly regarding the rivalry. I think some changes are going to happen this offseason, and it’ll probably have scheduling right up there. Our scheduling needs to be strategically done to position us to win this game. As this game goes, so goes our season, typically.
I am psyched
about next year’s bye week, and woefully optimistic that we will LEARN from the corch and use it wisely….
The obvious solution (to me) would be to give every team a bye the same week – I understand this would require some rejiggering of scheduled rivalries, but if you set it in stone that, say, four weeks into the conference sched, EVERYONE’s off, FOREVER, it would aid long-term scheduling, I suspect.
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I think what matters is that we play fundamentally sound football.
Which we have yet to do any week that we were playing anyone worth a dog gone. We may have beaten Kentucky, but we didn’t play well. That should have been the heads up for what was waiting for us in Jax.
Get a better team.
Seriously, All the schedule manipulation in the world doesn’t make up for the fact that FL has been a MUCH better team for most of the last 20 years…..schedules don’t get you 18 and 3 over 21 games. I’ll give you equally matched this year but come on….
For the most part, you're right.
However, Georgia had the better team in 1992, 2002, 2003, 2005, and 2010, yet lost all of those games.
Moreover, the teams have been much more evenly matched in the 2000s (when the two teams’ numbers of SEC Championship Game appearances and SEC championships have been comparable) than in the 1990s (when the Gators consistently won the East and the Bulldogs never made it to the title game). The facts that most of the games in the ’90s were blowouts and most of the games in the ’00s have been close contests attests to this.
We have a better team. That seems to matter against every opponent but Florida.
Go 'Dawgs!
Not likely
like i said, i’ll give you this year, and maybe a couple in the ron zook era….but seriously, last year and 2008 were blowouts and its not like the last 20 years are 12 and 8. I think its just the reality that FL couldn’t recruit in a great and fertile state for the better part of 50 years until the head ball coach and Jeremy Foley showed up. FL was the great underachiever otherwise the all time record would be lopsided for FL. I think you just have to face the reality that FL is going to be better 2 out of 3 years until major administration changes occur in one or both schools. We felt the same way about FSU for all of the 90s but the reality was that FSU was just better.
I'm not sure what you think is unlikely, but every statement I made in my reply (above) . . .
. . . rather clearly is accurate.
Yes, the 2008 and 2009 games were blowouts, just as the 1992 and 1993 games were nailbiters, but those aberrational results don’t change the facts that the majority of the games in the 1990s were lopsided and the majority of the games in the 2000s have been close.
There has been a major administration change in Athens with the hiring of Greg McGarity, who was Jeremy Foley’s right-hand man for 18 years. We shall see if that has the desired effect, but I trust you will not mind if we don’t take our 3-18 record over the last 21 years as fate any more than the Gators took their 4-15 record over the 19 years prior to that as destiny. As you say, Florida State was just better than Florida for many years, but the worm eventually turned, as it has in this series before, and as it will again.
Go 'Dawgs!
Oh no my friend,
Oh no. We have taken certain actions, put certain plans into place…
“Mr. Foley, getting off the sofa with ponderous reluctance, opened the door leading into the kitchen to get more air, and thus disclosed the innocent Urban, seated very good and quiet at a deal table, drawing circles, circles; innumerable circles, concentric, eccentric; a coruscating whirl of circles that by their tangled multitude of repeated curves, uniformity of form and confusion of intersecting lines suggested a rendering of cosmic chaos, the symbolism of a mad art attempting the inconceivable.”
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