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Is 2009 going to be like 2005?

In many ways, I was hoping on January 1, 2009, that the coming year would definitely not be like 2005.  In 2005, the following happened:

  • The Atlantic hurricane season was the most active and devastating season the world had seen in 154 years, including hurricanes Katrina and Rita striking the gulf coast.
  • Suicide bombers struck multiple train and bus stations in London, in what is now considered the U.K.'s 9/11. Attacks occured on 7/7/05, and 7/21/05.
  • A 7.6 magnitude earthquake killed over 80,000 in the disputed Kashmir region between India and Pakistan.
  • The very unpleasant Terri Schaivo debacle unfolded, which smattered a Florida family's dirty laundry all over the national news and re-stirred the pot in the national debate over euthanasia and end-of-life issues.
  • North Korea announced that it had, in fact, been able to acquire/manufacture a nuclear weapon.  (For real this time.  And we're not afraid to use it!!!1!!1  We're serious!!1one!!1)
  • Bryan Nichols goes on a rampage in a Fulton County courtroom, murdering a judge, a court reporter, and a policewoman.
  • Two words:  Jack Abramoff
  • Tom Cruise made news by brainwashing Dawson's girlfriend jumping on Oprah's couch and seriously freaking her the heck out. 
  • The world lost the following people:  Johnny Carson, Rosa Parks, Pope John Paul II, Richard Pryor, William H. Rehnquist, Peter Jennings, Hunter Thompson, Shelby Foote, Sandra Dee, Luther Vandross, and Noriyuki "Pat" Morita.

Indeed, 2005 was not generally a "good year."  There were one or two points of light during the year, however.  To wit:

  • Iraq held its first nationwide election that was peaceful and largely included the participation of all ethnic groups in the country, which led to a coalition government that is still in power today.
  • The Georgia Bulldogs won their second SEC Football Championship in 4 seasons.

I'm sure that we would all like to avoid most of the negative aspects of 2005 repeating themselves.  Most of us (at least, the Georgia fans) are, however, hoping that our team's exploits on the field are repeated in 2009, at least in terms of the championship results.

Both I and Kyle have gone on the record as being unabashedly negative in our expectations for the Red and Black in 2009.  Kyle has recently allowed a ray or two of sunlight to penetrate his dreary outlook, however, so I figured I needed to talk any people with hope stirring inside them back out onto the ledge with the following comparison between the 2009 and 2005 editions of the Georgia football team.

I was battling insomnia recently, and decided to watch my "Hunker Down... Atlanta Bound!" DVD review of the 2005 season.  I was struck by the interesting comparisons and contrasts between that team and the one that will take the field in 2009.  How does this 2009 group of Bulldogs compare to the SEC-Champion 2005 squad?  Well, let's just see...

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The Offense

Quarterback:  In 2005, Georgia had a "new" QB starting the season.  D.J. Shockley had 0 previous career starts at UGA, but he had seen a small amount of playing time in previous seasons, and was generally considered a mediocre-at-best quarterback, based on that previous performance.  Starting with the very first game, however, D.J. showed that he was a true dual-threat quarterback, scoring 5 passing TD's and 1 rushing TD.  In fact, Shockley was Georgia's leading rusher in the Boise State game, with 85 yards, and went on to score 2 more rushing TD's for the Red and Black in their second game against South Carolina. Perhaps more importantly, the entire team seemed to gel around the new quarterback, creating a chemistry and unity that had not always been present during the much-hyped (and disappointing) 2004 season.

In 2009, Georgia also has a "new" QB starting who is not actually new. Joe Cox has been Matthew Stafford's backup for 4 years, and seems to have earned the same type of respect D.J. Shockley earned as a long-time backup: someone who was capable of starting for some other teams, but chose to stick it out at Georgia instead.  The team seems to be "gelling" around Cox with a unity and chemistry in much the same way they did with Shockley, as well, though only time will truly tell on that one.

The key difference in these two men, however, is that D.J. Shockley was a significant threat in the air and on the ground.  Cox will, no doubt, be an excellent pocket quarterback with good decision-making skills, but no one will mistake him for D.J. Shockley when he starts scrambling with the ball. Advantage: 2005.

Running Back:  In 2005, Georgia employed the running-back-by-committee approach, which is by now all too familiar to Bulldog fans.  The trio of Thomas Brown, Danny Ware, and Kregg Lumpkin were by no means world beaters, but all of them were good backs, and were able to get the job done for the most part.  Their biggest glaring weakness was in the red zone (and, more specifically, inside the 5 yard line), when none of the backs was the typical "bruiser" who could just plunge into a pile and get your team the 3 or 4 yards you needed to score.  To circumvent this weakness, the Bulldogs frequently relied on the patented Mike Bobo endzone fade pass or the speed of D.J. Shockley to run the ball around the line and into the corner of the endzone.

In 2009, Georgia will again be running the committee approach, with a group including Caleb King, Richard Samuel, Carlton Thomas, and possibly Washaun Ealey.  After the "redshirting Knowshon Moreno" mini-scandal, it's anyone's guess as to whether or not the promising young freshman (Ealey) will actually play.  Unless he shows something he hasn't already, however, he won't be rising to the level of the Knowshon's or the Garrison Hearsts of the world.  So, basically, the Georgia backfield will be virtually identical in 2009 to that in 2005:  very capable, but probably not able to get you 3 yards on 3rd & 3/Goal without some extra help.  Advantage: Push.

Wide Receiver:  In 2005, Georgia had 2 legitimate wide receiver threats:  a talented veteran in Sean Bailey, and a hot freshman in Mohamed Massaquoi.  The rest of the WR corps was generally capable, but not in the elite company of the top 2.

In 2009, Georgia only has 1 proven WR threat:  Sophomore A.J. Green.  Green has incredible talent, but behind him are a group of "capable" players, but no established elite talent.  This is a problem, since you really need at least 2 great receivers to help distract opposing defenses and keep them from double and triple-teaming your #1 guy on every down.  Advantage: 2005.

Offensive Line: This was Georgia's secret weapon in 2005. Max Jean-Gilles was the massive bedrock of the very experienced line, which also included upperclassmen Daniel Inman, Nick Jones, Russ Tanner, and Fernando Velasco.  They had talent, experience, and confidence, which served the team very well (as all experienced, talented lines do).

In 2009, Georgia effectively returns 7 starters on the offensive line, including bedrock left tackle Trinton Sturdivant. Justin Anderson, Clint Boling, Cordy Glenn, Tanner Strickland, Kiante Tripp, and Vince Vance are all a very talented group, and could potentially provide an even better base than the 2005 squad.  Advantage: 2009

Tight End: In 2005, Georgia had Leonard Pope and Martrez Milner lining up at the end of the offensive line, and both turned out to be great receiving threats in addition to being great blockers.  In fact, Leonard Pope led the team in receiving yards for the season, and the Tight Ends as a group had more receiving yards than the receivers in 5 games that year.

In 2009, Georgia returns no tight ends that are perceived as a significant receiving threat. Orson Charles might be the exception to that statement, but he has not yet played a down at the collegiate level, so he doesn't count.  Advantage: 2005 by a landslide.


The Defense

Defensive Line: In 2005, Georgia had Quentin Moses, Charles Johnson, and a newly-minted Marcus Howard at the DE spot.  The D-line was anchored by Kedric Golston, and also included Kade Weston and a breakout freshman named Jeff Owens.

In 2009, Georgia returns a 5th-year Jeff Owens, along with Geno Atkins and Kade Weston, which will be a dominating presence. The defensive end slot doesn't appear to be nearly as stacked, however, with best-hope Justin Houston suspended for the first 2 games of the season. Damarcus Dobbs and Rod Battle are the next best, but this group will have to get significantly better as a whole before the pass rush off the edge will be effective against great offensive lines. Advantage: 2005, because of the massive talent at end.

Linebackers and Cornerbacks: In 2005, Georgia was loaded at LB, with Jarvis Jackson, Danny Verdun-Wheeler and Tony Taylor spearheading the charge.  At CB were Tim Jennings, DeMario Minter, and Paul Oliver... all fantastic players.

In 2009, all-everything Rennie Curran returns as clearly the best LB, along with Darius Dewberry, Marcus Washington, along with Darryl Gamble and Akeem Dent. At CB, we've got Prince Miller and... who? Vance Cuff?  Probably will need some more help here. Overall, not a bad squad, but the '05 squad dwarfs them.  Advantage: 2005

Secondary: In 2005, all you had to do was utter two words:  Greg Blue.  Just the thought of being on the wrong side of his bone-crunching tackles caused more than one receiver to drop a pass and curl up into the fetal position on the field, sucking their thumb and crying for mommy.  In addition, the presence of the dangerous Tra Battle and Kelin Johnson prevented teams from simply throwing it away from Blue.

Sadly, the Dawgs have no Greg Blue in their defensive backfield in 2009.  Reshad Jones and relocated CB Bryan Evans anchor the backfield, and Bacarri Rambo provides name support in case the opposing QB is reading a media guide instead of defenses, but all of these players will have to show significant improvement to even approach the playing level of their 2005 counterparts.  Advantage: 2005.

 

Special Teams

In 2005, Georgia had Brandon Coutu and Gordon Ely-Kelso at the place kicker and punter spots, respectively.  Coutu was the leading point-scorer in the SEC in 2005, and made field goals of 58 and 56 yards in addition to converting 100% of his PAT attempts.  He also nailed a 51-yarder in the SEC championship game vs. LSU, which set the record for the longest FG in championship game history.  Meanwhile Ely-Kelso regularly landed his punts inside the 20, and frequently inside the 10.

In 2009, Georgia will have either notoriously-inconsistent Blair Walsh or great-distance-but-poor-accuracy Brandon Bogotay at place kicker, and living-in-daddy's-shadow Drew Butler at punter.  Neither of these positions elicits great confidence from me... nor should they from you.  Advantage: 2005, by about 58 yards.

Intangibles & Luck

In 2005, Georgia's team was coming in with lowered expectations after the graduation of two major players, the David's Greene and Pollock. Most media "experts" didn't take into account, however, that there were a lot of talented skill players returning 2005. This relieved a lot of the pressure on the team associated with high expectations, and it could be argued that this allowed them to come out more focused and unified.

Without one unfortunate play in the Arkansas game, Georgia might have been positioning itself to make a highly improbable run to a national championship game.  But, alas, an Arkansas defender rolled up on D.J. Shockley's ankle, and Shockley missed both the rest of that game and the Florida game.  Not only that, but he struggled to shake off some rust in the Auburn game, which Georgia also lost.

The 2009 Bulldog team will similarly be coming off a previous disappointing season, and the departure of some key players that the media seem to think were the only players on the field.  We do have talented players coming back, and expectations are certainly about as low as they've ever been during the Mark Richt era.  Since it's impossible to know how untimely injuries will affect us (or not) during the season, I'll have to say Advantage: Push in this area.

The Results

In case the negative tone of my post was not clearly established in the opening paragraph, let me say it plainly: The 2009 Georgia Bulldogs are not the 2005 Georgia Bulldogs. 

The 2009 offense will have no running threat at QB, and the defense will have neither the oppressive pass rush of great defensive ends nor the crushing monsters in the secondary that the 2005 team had. And one of the biggest strengths of the 2005 team - the special teams - is one of the biggest question marks on the 2009 team.

The preseason poll rankings are similar, the expectations are similarly lowered, and the "coming off a disappointing season and losing your best players" is similar.  Unfortunately, however, I believe that's where the similarity ends.

Many fans' hopes of this team becoming the 2009 SEC champions are incredibly farfetched, in my opinion.  As I've written before, my prediction for the season is 8-4, with losses to S. Carolina, Arkansas, Arizona State, and Ga. Tech. I certainly will be the first to be cheering if I'm wrong, however.  Remember, friends... if you always expect the worst, you can only be pleasantly surprised!

Well, that was depressing... so let me end on a positive note.  Even if we do have a poor season (by Georgia's new, incredibly high standards), I'm going to thoroughly enjoy our trip to Stillwater and tailgating with all of our friends before every home game.  Because, really, that's what the experience is primarily all about...  having a great time with your friends and family.

 

Go Dawgs!

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Receivers

I have to take issue with your receiver comparison, as you include Massaquoi in your analysis of 2005 as a proven receiver. Having A.J. Green is an obvious asset, but Michael Moore and Kris Durham also made some noise last season. I am not the closest follower of recruiting, but I seem to recall a few prospects coming in as freshmen, too. I would say 2005 deserves a push at best.

Thanks for bringing back the memories—Bluuuuuueeeeee

by stretchdavis on Aug 21, 2009 7:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Favorite Rece Davis highlight:

Speaking over video of Greg Blue laying a slobberknocker on somebody: “Blue, you’re my boy!”

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Aug 21, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

All the Texas folks seem to think its 2005 again as well.

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by Year2 on Aug 21, 2009 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice Post vineyarddawg

I only have one problem with the idea of comparing 2005 to 2009. You have no 2009 season data to work on, while you’re using knowledge of what happened in 2005 to support that side of the argument.
Case in point – WR. Coming into 2005 you could not account on Massaquoi for anything as he was all hype and no production (yet).
To be fair, you should compare expectations going into 2005 to 2009.. or wait to make this post after the season when players have fleshed out.
Who knows, advantage 2009 may appear more and more as players we don’t think about now, break out over the season. (please dear god let this be the case for the secondary, please)

by knowshon loves legos on Aug 21, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

I second this

I’m not on the “2009 = 2005” bandwagon by any means, but your comparisons here are a bit unfair, as you you’re comparing a 2005 team that played 13 games to a 2009 squad that has played . . . two scrimmages? If they haven’t had a chance to prove themselves, then this analysis is one-sided and not really that illuminating.

2009 will be 2009, and I hope we have plenty of reasons for remembering it fondly. Honestly, I suspect if anything 2009 will be “the new” 2006. (Which is find by me since any mention of the 2006 season immediately reminds me of Tra Battle soaring across the goal line at Auburn. Or the double-you-tee-eff moment as Richt calls the onside kick against VT . . . and we recover.)

Leaving insightful football commentary and analysis to other people since 2006.

by wwcmrd? on Aug 21, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's why it is called a prediction

Vineyard uses solid analysis in his predictions and has the past performance of many players on the ‘09 squad to back up his comparisons. The piece wouldn’t be interesting if he were comparing the ’09 and ’05 teams after the season – everyone would already know which units performed better.

All that being said, I too disagree on the WR – I think Green is better than Bailey and M-squared.

by skigator93 on Aug 21, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not clear to me

Whether Vineyard is making judgments about the 05 squad based on what we knew in the pre-season in 2005 or based on what we now know. As stretchdavis and knowshon loves legos point out, saying the 2005 squad had the edge on the 2009 squad because the 2005 squad had Massaquoi is unfair, because no one knew he was going to be so phenomenal. Even if there were signs in the preseason that he would be successful, why does he get a pass and Charles and Brown don’t?

The quarterback comparison is essentially the same. It comes down to Shockley being a dual-threat quarterback, and thus getting the edge over Cox. If you want to say that every dual-threat is always going to be better than a pocket passer, fine. But (and I’m not saying this will happen, I’m just saying we don’t know) Cox could have a fantastic season as a Greene-type quarterback, with high accuracy, few turnovers, and smart game management. He could score plenty of touchdowns without ever running one in. Shockley seems to get the edge in this analysis because he is a known quantity, and Cox is not.

The only fair comparison between the two teams, as knowshown loves legos points out, would be 2005 preseason knowledge vs. 2009 preseason knowledge. If he wants to compare a team that is a known quantity with a team that hasn’t played a single game, that’s fine, it just strikes me as unfair, as he seems to take the 2005 team’s play over the course of the season into account, but the 09 team hasn’t had a chance to even play a game.

Leaving insightful football commentary and analysis to other people since 2006.

by wwcmrd? on Aug 21, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair points...

… but, in the 2005 preseason, Massaquoi was coming in as a mega-heralded recruit, which could be legitimately translated into expectations of performance on the field, IMO. He was ranked the #4 WR in the country coming out of Independence High School, and had been both Chris Leak’s and Joe Cox’s primary receiver during his years there. Not to mention that he was selected All-America, and basically all-everything after his senior year. Much like people expect Orson Charles and Marlon Brown to make immediate impact, I think it’s reasonable to count the high expectations for Massaquoi in the 2005 preseason as reasonable expectations of performance.

And, in that vein, I will admit that I forgot about Marlon Brown when I was typing this post. Had I remembered that Brown was coming in as the #5-ranked receiver in the country, I might have upgraded that comparison to a push.

by vineyarddawg on Aug 21, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I echo some of the statements the comment above. I agree that 2009 is not 2005, and the absolute best season we could possible hope for this year is to equal 2005. That being said, I think some of your comparisons are colored by hindsight. Take Coutu for instance. He had only kicked 3 fgs (making 2) in 2004. Going into 2005, PK was still a huge question mark (Andy Bailey was still seen as the potential starter). Now we know that Coutu turned out awesome, but at this point in 2005 we didn’t know what to expect from him. Greg Blue is another example. Remember in 2005 we were expecting him to step up and replace Thomas Davis. He had a bit of a reputation pre-2005 of just going for the big hit Reshad Jones-style and not playing solid safety. Again, he proved us wrong. UGA’s 2009 safeties have way more natural talent than 2005 (Jones > Blue, and both Tra Battle and Kelin were just 2 star recruits) but they haven’t proven it on the field.

People were also questioning Shock’s decision making skills. Again, I think the 2005 team had tons more talent and experience. But let’s not condemn 2009 yet.

by ghost of tom thobe on Aug 21, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

No condemnation

I certainly don’t want to condemn the 2009 team… in fact, I will be the first person to be cheering if we go 13-0 and book a date in the National Championship Game.

In fact, I also firmly believe that it’s not that much of a stretch to think that, if all the pieces fall into place, Georgia could end up competing for a SEC and national title. I, like Kyle, have chosen to subscribe to the theory that, “If you set your expectations as low as possible, then you can only be pleasantly surprised by the results.”

Games in the SEC are decided by razor-thin margins, and all it takes is a couple of unfortunate bounces of the ball and poor referee decisions to go from trailing 14-7 to losing 49-10. One could legitimately predict that Georgia could go anywhere from 7-5 to 11-1 and not be going out on a limb at all.

I’m hoping for the best, but unfortunately expecting the worst.

by vineyarddawg on Aug 21, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel bad

I didn’t mean to dismantle the post. I enjoyed to concept and the read. And I understand it would not be an interesting topic at the end of this season. It’s just a bit of ‘hindsight is 20/20’.

I’m trying to stick up for 2009 in hopes that it will be a ‘successful’ season. And if I have to get all ugly on 2005 to do so, I will.

by knowshon loves legos on Aug 21, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

No worries, KLL.

I enjoy constructive criticism… and much of what you and others have had to say is certainly fair criticism.

by vineyarddawg on Aug 21, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting post

I enjoyed reading this because, if nothing else, it does give a bit of a benchmark, although I do agree with several other comments that it’s a bit of a double standard using pre-season 2009 info vs. post-season 2005 info.

With that said, I think my biggest quibble would come in the running back area, where you acknowledge the lack of red-zone presence for the 2005 team. Correct me if I’m wrong, but shouldn’t our pre-season 2009 situation at fullback take the comparison from a push to advantage: 2009? We may have lost Sutherland, but Chapas has played some excellent football, and we have a solid backup in Munzenmaier. I took a look at the depth chart for 2005 (I was still undergrad then and pretty drunk for most of the games), and Sutherland was just a freshman. I think you could also make the case that this brings some help to the offensive line as far as blocking.

Finally, I’m thinking 9-3 are where my expectations are, with a llikely 10th win in a bowl game somewhere in Florida. I highly doubt losing to South Carolina. Those games are always close and almost always hinge on the team that controls the line of scrimmage. The ’cocks are dangerously thin at defensive tackle, with 1 starter out for the season and the other hobbled and projected to play 15-20 snaps per game. I think at worst our defensive line vs their offensive line is a push, while our offensive line will dominate and allow our offense to eat up clock and pound the ball down their throats. I would switch the Arkansas loss for a Florida loss (ie we beat Arkansas, but lose to Florida), despite the 19 year swing (each team loses a few in that 19 year span, this might just be ours). I think we take at worst 1 out of the following 3: @OK State, LSU @ home, and @ Ga Tech.

Finally, I’ll be at Stillwater for the game, but staying in Oklahoma City. Anyone else gonna be partying in OKC Friday/tailgating early Saturday morning?

Go Dawgs!

by NOLADawg on Aug 21, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, at least I succeeded in "stirring the puddin."

I can’t deny that I used postseason knowledge from the 2005 season to compare against preseason guesses about the 2009 team, but in my defense, that’s really all I have to go on regarding the 2009 team.

Plus, the only “impact freshman” we relied heavily on in 2005 was Mohamed Massaquoi. One might argue that Marlon Brown could legitimately become this year’s Massaquoi, but I don’t buy the argument that Orson Charles could become Leonard Pope. Pope was like William Wallace… 10 feet tall, kills blocks men by the hundreds, and consumes the English Gators with fire from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse.

Ok, so Pope Leonard was only 6’8", but he had already proven himself to be an NFL guy just waiting for his 3 years of waiting time to be up. It can be argued that others have had more successful NFL careers (Ben Watson, Randy McMichael), but Leonard Pope is definitely one of the best tight ends Georgia has had in recent memory. While Orson Charles might be good… I can say with quite some level of comfort that he will be no Leonard Pope… at least in 2009.

by vineyarddawg on Aug 21, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Paul Westerdawg is right:

Leonard Pope was the real-life Bill Brassky.

I still maintain that we should have arranged for the scoreboard to release a puff of white smoke every time he scored a touchdown.

Pope was part of the “Holy Trinity” of 21st-century Georgia football, together with (Quentin) Moses and Mohammed (Massaquoi).

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Aug 21, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if..

…this was written ‘tongue in cheek’ but,

 “Remember, friends… if you always expect the worst, you can only be pleasantly surprised!”

…I think if you said that to Pete Carroll, he’d tell you those are the desperate words of a loser. And to clarify, I don’t mean Vineyarddawg is a loser. I mean that as a culture I know so many Dawg fans that think that way. At this point, I’m realisitic, but I always expect to win because I know we have the talent to pull it off. I’d rather expect to win and if we lose admit that we got beat. But I will never walk around expecting that we cannot win. I’ve got too much Red and Black pride for that. I may be wrong, but that’s how I feel.
Go Dawgs!!!

Touchdown Georgia!!!!!

by BiggityBen on Aug 21, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I see your point . . .

. . . but I’m reminded of the end of last year’s Cotton Bowl, when an Ole Miss player (in response to the “America’s Vote” internet poll conducted by ESPN) wrote on the dry erase board: “94% said we couldn’t. We did.”

He was wrong. I didn’t vote in that poll, but, if I had, I would have picked Texas Tech. The 94 per cent who agreed with me didn’t say Ole Miss couldn’t win; they said Ole Miss wouldn’t win. There’s a difference.

Neither vineyarddawg nor I is guilty of “walk[ing] around expecting that we cannot win.” I think we’re both confident we can, but will we? That is the question. No one doubts that Georgia is capable of beating every team it plays, but that is not the same thing as believing Georgia will beat every team it plays.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Aug 21, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No disrespect Vineyarddawg but I'm not buying your level pessimism . . .

While I admire you for making the arguments, I think an average, neutral fan would probably agree that:

1) Our receivers are clearly better this year than they were in 2005: Basically we had Mo Mass and Sean Bailey in 05. This year’s starters AJ and Michael Moore are a better starting combo than those two. Moreover, from what the reports are saying about Marlon Brown and Orson Charles in camp, we there’s a shot UGA could have an outstanding receiving core this year.

Second, our QB situation is much better this year than it was in 05: All we really had in 05 was DJ and as great he was, his injury against Arkansas cost us the Florida game. This year, if Joe Cox doesn’t work out, Logan Gray showed in spring that he is capable of running the O. Moreover, he’s as dangerous with his legs as Shockley was. [When did they ever line Shockley up in punt return coverage?]. And that doesn’t include the two nasty freshmen we brought in either.

Our linebackers are better this year than they were in 05 if for no other reason than because we have Rennie Curran and Darryl Gamble in 09. Those two could have played regularly on the Van Gorder’s stacked D. Save for Tony Taylor, our 05 linebackers are largely forgetable.

Finally, we’re probably better at DT this year than we where in 05. The major player at DT in 05 was the freshmen version of Jeff Owens. The 09 squad as the senior version as Geno Atkins who is every bit as good as Jeff is.

Finally, while the secondary is younger than the 05 squad, they have much bigger big play potential than the 05 squad did: Reshad Jones Tech game excluded has ball hawk skills Greg Blue never did. Boykin, Prince Miller and Branden Washington are also much better athletes than DeMario Minter, Tim Jennings and Paul Oliver where. Given that none of them has demonstrated ability to make intercepts (from the standpoint of pre-05 versus pre-09), that gives a slight nod to this year’s CBs.

by charlottedawg on Aug 21, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Shhhhh.... don't let the people know I'm not really this pessimistic. It ruins my credibility.

Seriously, though, I would like to not be as dour as I am concerning the upcoming season. On the positive side of the coin, we seem to have just as much team unity and focus as we had in the preseason in 2005. The SEC is such a murderers row of high-quality coaches and teams, though, that I fear any potential weakness is inevitably going to be fully exploited by at least one team that we play… and once exploited, everyone then has the combination to the safe.

I truly do have hopes that we will have a better than 8-4 record… but I can’t in good conscience say that I think it’s likely at this point. I think that’s the case if for no other reason than the fact that our schedule is actually harder and has much worse timing in the first few weeks than last year.

Joe Cox does have composure and the ability to make accurate throws, but D.J. did, also. And while there’s no question that he has talent, Logan Gray doesn’t have the ability Shockley had. (If he did, I would argue that he’d be starting ahead of Joe Cox.) And even if Gray did have the same talent as Shockley, he wouldn’t have the same composure or experience, because he’s never played a meaningful snap at QB in a regular-season game.

I suppose time will really tell about all of the spots we’ve been talking about… QB, WR, and defense. I do hope that I’m proven wrong!

by vineyarddawg on Aug 21, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

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