Has Mark Richt Missed His Chance to Win a National Championship at Georgia?
Last evening, skigator93 noted the likelihood that Mark Richt and Urban Meyer will conduct one of the great college football coaching rivalries over the course of the next several seasons. In reply, marktheshark linked to a pair of recent postings elsewhere in the blogosphere, in one of which C&F asked whether it mattered that Coach Richt has never won a national championship. Observed C&F:
Richt's record at Georgia has really been almost awe-inspiring: 82-22 overall (.788), 46-18 in the SEC (.719). He has two conference championships to his name, another pair of division crowns and six 10-win seasons to go along with his nine-win campaign and his inaugural eight-year season.
But he has never hoisted the crystal football. Never even played for it, in fact. . . .
I hope Richt wins a national title -- in part because he deserves it, and in part because it removes the possibility that some fans will always remember his record with an asterisk. We live in a society that measures sporting accomplishments by championships, real or mythical.
For Richt's legacy, like it or not, the crystal football matters.
The other piece cited by marktheshark came from Dr. Saturday, who had this to say about the man he called "the most successful coach today without a BCS title":
Richt has as many conference titles (two) as Meyer and Saban, and more than Miles (one). He's fifth among active head coaches in career winning percentage, behind (in order) Chris Petersen, Pete Carroll, Meyer and Bob Stoops, and well ahead of Spurrier, Saban, Miles, Mack Brown, Jim Tressel, et al.
He's among elite company by every measure except one -- all those coaches (with the exception of Petersen, who got Boise State as close as it will ever come with the undefeated season in 2006) have finished at the top of the polls. . . .
What's the difference between those heroic conquerors and Richt's best team in '02? The external circumstances broke in their favor, and they didn't for Georgia. So we can definitely affirm that he's not the luckiest coach. . . .
Everyone in Richt's peer group this decade has a crystal ball to his name; based on his record, there's no reason (except maybe the presence of rising juggernaut Florida next door) to think Georgia won't join that club eventually. But he shouldn't have to when the record is perfectly capable of speaking for itself.
Matt Hinton’s not inconsequential parenthetical exception notwithstanding, the good Doctor is right. What, then, are we to make of the disturbing facts that (a) Coach Richt is about to begin his ninth season in Athens and (b) Pete Carroll, Urban Meyer, Les Miles, Bob Stoops, and Jim Tressel all won national championships within their first three years at their current schools, while Nick Saban won one in his fourth year at his previous collegiate coaching stop?
Quite simply, there is no significance to the latter fact. It is unfair and inaccurate to tease out a trend that, because recent national champions have been led by head coaches who were early in their tenures, the new paradigm is to win ‘em early rather than late. To some extent, as Dr. Saturday regularly emphasizes, national championship game pairings are random . . . as evidenced by the fact that Larry Coker won a national title in his first year at Miami (and came within an oft-debated pass interference penalty of winning two in a row), yet no one thinks he is half the coach Mark Richt is.
Likewise, that list of 21st-century championship coaches must be leavened by the disconcerting insertion of the name of Mack Brown, whose No. 1 finish in his eighth year at Texas underscored the rule rather than the exception. That rule is this:
Coaches who keep their teams in contention, year in and year out, eventually will catch the breaks that make the difference between 11-2 and winning it all.
That is the lesson of Bobby Bowden, Vince Dooley, Tom Osborne, Joe Paterno, and Steve Spurrier. Although those coaches won a national championship for the first time later in their careers than the men who have claimed most of the titles in the last nine seasons, their experience parallels that of the latter-day Pete Carrolls, Urban Meyers, and Jim Tressels.
Consider these numbers:
- 11, 11, 10, 10, 11, 11, 12, 10, 10, 11
- 9, 9, 9, 11, 11, 10, 11, 13, 10, 10, 12
- 6, 11, 12, 13, 12, 11, 11, 12
- 9, 10, 9, 11, 10, 12, 12, 10, 10
- 7, 13, 11, 12, 12, 12, 8, 11, 11, 12
- 7, 14, 11, 8, 10, 12, 11, 10
- 8, 13, 11, 10, 10, 9, 11, 10
Those are, respectively, the annual win totals for Bobby Bowden at Florida State from 1987 (the year the Seminoles began their run of top five finishes) to 1996, Mack Brown at Texas from 1998 to 2008, Pete Carroll at Southern Cal from 2001 to 2008, Steve Spurrier at Florida from 1990 to 1998, Bob Stoops at Oklahoma from 1999 to 2008, Jim Tressel at Ohio State from 2001 to 2008, and Mark Richt at Georgia from 2001 to 2008. The highlighted numbers represent the years those coaches won national championships. (Yes, I’m counting the 2003 Associated Press national championship for the Trojans; let’s not rehash that debate, shall we?)
The point should be clear, even without the inclusion of Nebraska’s Tom Osborne (who won ten or more games in nine of the eleven seasons between 1979 and 1989 before taking the Cornhuskers to four national championship games in a five-year period between 1993 and 1997) and Penn State’s Joe Paterno (who won ten or more games in ten of the 14 seasons between 1968 and 1981 before taking the Nittany Lions to three national championship games in a five-year period between 1982 and 1986). Elite coaches start out that way (or quickly rise to that level after initial growing pains as rookies) and stay that way.
If you win ten or eleven games a year every year, it’s all going to fall your way every now and again. Please note the comparative rarity of multiple national title winners: Coach Carroll’s first national championship, unaccompanied by a crystal football, has an asterisk next to it in the minds of many; LSU’s two recent titles came under different coaches; even Coach Meyer needed no small degree of lobbying just to get into the national title tilt at the end of the 2006 season.
For every Coach Stoops who wins a national championship early before enduring a (comparative) dry spell afterwards, there’s a Coach Brown who keeps plugging away until he wins one later in his career. The key, though, is the consistency; look at all those tens, elevens, and twelves, and you’d be hard pressed to identify which were the national championship seasons and which weren’t without my having highlighted them. If you fly high enough for long enough, you’ll get your turn to land atop the mountain.
The wait for the first one is longer for some than for others, but that often means less grousing from the faithful later. Consider the (largely preposterous) questions Coach Stoops and Coach Tressel have to offer about whether they’ve "lost it" and can no longer "win the big one."
Mark Richt seems destined to answer the question that followed his mentor, Bobby Bowden, for much of his career: "How does it feel never to have won a national championship?" One day, that question will go away; until then, though, he may take solace in the fact that, while he has never led an SEC team to an undefeated season, neither have Urban Meyer, Les Miles, Nick Saban, or Steve Spurrier.
Come to think of it, the last two guys who led SEC squads to unbeaten campaigns were Phillip Fulmer and Tommy Tuberville. How’d that work out for them? Maybe Mark Richt is better off, for now, having to explain why there is one---count it, one---lid he hasn’t quite knocked off yet, rather than having to answer the question, "What have you done for me lately?"
Go ‘Dawgs!
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two thoughts
1. Unfortunately, the rising juggernaut to the south is a big problem and something Richt will have to get past in order to win a MNC.
2. Other than Peterson, are there any other coaches out there now or who had recent streaks like Richt and the others, but didn’t cash in either. Without crunching the numbers, Beamer is the only one I can think of.
Good point on Beamer...
but he at least appeared in a National Championship game (2000 Sugar Bowl against FSU – for the 1999 season). Obviously it’s not the same thing as winning win, but the opportunity was there.
Beamer’s wins by season follow a close pattern to what Kyle outlines above, with a few additional sub-10 win seasons (which should still not detract from your point fotodog that Beamer does in fact fit in with Richt as the most successful coaches without a national championship).
I took a quick look through the list of Div. 1A teams and not one stuck out at me as having a coach with a sustained pattern of success without a championship, so I thing you picked the only one.
by marktheshark on Jul 15, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Numbers don't lie
I think Kyle hit the nail on the head in this post – consistent winning eventually leads to a national title. It almost always takes some degree of fortune to win (or even play for) a national title. Florida needed so many things to happen to win our first national title in ’96 that it was almost ridiculous. Yet, somehow, all the pieces fell into place and we won the lottery by getting a rematch against our bitterest rival to win a national title – after losing to them just over a month earlier.
UGA continues to stockpile blue chip recruits and win 10+ games every year. Eventually it will happen. The loose ball will bounce your way, you’ll get the key call, you’ll watch the necessary 3rd party upset, and you’ll find yourself playing for all the marbles. The important thing is – once you get there, you’ve got to win the game. The worst thing that can happed to Richt is to ake it to the BCS title game and lose. That’s when all the naysayers will really come out with the “can’t win the big one” claim.
Exactly
This has been my sentiment for a long time. There is no difference between the achievement and quality of the 2002 Georgia team versus the 2003 LSU, 2006 Florida, 2008 Florida teams other than the latter caught the breaks necessary to play in the BCS title game. Same goes for 2007 Georgia versus 2007 LSU. As long as Mark Richt keeps putting his team in a position to win 10+ games every year (just like Urban Meyer and Les Miles), Richt will one year get the bounces to go his way.
You mention the 1996 Gators as getting a ridiculous amount of breaks, what about the 1998 Vols? Clint Stoerner, anyone?
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2007 Georgia
The 2007 Georgia team is a good example of the team that could have used that 3rd party upset. Had Kentucky beat Tennessee at the end of the season (and MAN, that was a close one! was it triple overtime?), Georgia would have gone to the SEC title game. That doesn’t guarantee us a win and subsequent spot in the national championship game, but it would have been a lot better than the “we were next in line and those teams lost” argument we tried to pitch (I go on record as being against UGA’s arguments for an appearance in that national championship game). If we were able to play LSU and win, maybe we would have been the first 2 loss team to appear and possibly win the BCS title.
by marktheshark on Jul 15, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Tennessee scraped by three times down the stretch
Kentucky, South Carolina, and Vanderbilt all failed to convert what would have been game-winning field goals against the Volunteers that year, any one of which (if made) would have sent a red-hot Georgia team to face LSU in the SEC championship game in a de facto national championship semifinal. Meanwhile, if Ryan Succop had connected on just one of several failed kicks against Florida in 2006, Urban Meyer would have started out 0-2 against Steve Spurrier and been on the hot seat after fielding a porous defense in 2007 rather than playing for his second national title in 2008. Such are the narrow margins between success and failure.
That said, if the ‘Dawgs hadn’t laid an egg in Knoxville in 2007, or even if they had laid an egg in Knoxville but had managed to score just five more points against South Carolina, it never would have been an issue. Oftentimes, you need third-party help, but there’s an easy solution to avoid that conundrum: win ’em all.
Well, all right, it’s not exactly easy, but it is simple.
Go 'Dawgs!
In succop's defense
he only really missed one kick – the others were blocked. Meyer (like Beamer) is a special teams guru – and that’ll usually net you an extra victory every couple of years.
I remember Vandy losing in horrible ways against UT several years in a row before finally beating them.
LSU 2003 and UGA 2002
were so similar. LSU had strong defense, and found ways to win games, blew out a team in the SECCG and its only blemish was a 7 point loss to Florida.
UGA had a strong defense, found ways to win, blew out a team in the SECCG and its only blemish was a 7 point loss to Florida.
What about us in 2005 and LSU in 2007? Our only losses in the regular season that year were a 4 point loss to Florida and a 1 point loss to Auburn-both ranked teams. Take the loss in the bowl game, we lost 3 games by 8 total points that year.
LSU/Florida 2003
I was at that game and it was very similar to our loss to Ole Miss last year. It was the JP game with a very early kickoff (I believe 11:30 central) as we all had mad hangovers from partying NOLA style the night before. LSU tried to sleepwalk through the game and we caught them napping. It was a rare shining moment in Zook’s career at UF. I remember the LSU fans were so shocked that they were inviting us to grab a beer at their tailgates postgame. Not at all like th sterotype I have heard.
Window Shut
I have to second the first point made by Fotodog. We were clearly the most solid program in the SEC for Richt’s first few years. We failed to take advantage of the Zook era and our 4 year run over UT, and I fear that the 2002 loss to Florida could end up being the defining game of the Richt era. A few other times the ball didn’t bounce our way (Shockley injury 05, UT winning ridiculous games 07, even 02 I guess you could argue that OSU should’ve lost 5 games) but 2002 was OUR proverbial Year 2, and we absolutely blew it against a putrid gator squad. I truly believe that Richt will get us there eventually for all the reasons cited above, but as we have seen, it is very rare to have the breaks go your way. And when they do, you absolutely have to take advantage.
I don't feel too bad about 2002
We never would have leap frogged OSU to play Miami so it’s a moot point anyways. 2002 Georgia would have been 2004 Auburn had we run the table.
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We were ahead
of OSU in the BCS and the AP (they had the Coaches) when we lost, and they continually won games against bad teams by the skin of their teeth, whereas we shellacked Tech and Arkansas to close the season. It is certainly debatable, but we at the very least would’ve had a much stronger case than Auburn 04, as our OOC including Climpson and Tech was stronger than OSU’s that year (and Auburn 04, as well, by a lot), and Auburn 04 was aginst 2 juggernaut-type teams in USC and OK, whereas OSU 02 was and is widely acknowledged as one of the all-time lucky teams.
What a difference a year makes
Last year Richt was on everyone’s list of the best coaches in the country and a master motivator. Now everyone’s writing about whether he missed the NC boat or not and leaving him off top coach lists in favor of Nick “Someday I’ll have two consecutive 10-win seasons” Saban. Funny ol’ world, ain’t it?
Bottom line, we’ve got a great coach we’re damn lucky to have. NC or not, I hope he hangs around until he retires.
Nick Saban’s career win % is ~68% (73% in the SEC), 2 SECC, 1 MNC
Mark Richt’s career win % is ~79%, 2 SECC
Even if you to look at Saban’s career at LSU and Bama and take Michigan State out of the equation, his winning percentage is not as high as Richt’s.
As mentioned in my earlier post, the 2002 UGA campaign and 2003 LSU campaign were very similar.
For all intents and purposes, they almost have identical coaching resumes. However, Richt’s reputation isn’t nearly as heralded as Saban’s. Then look at the way they conduct themselves. I would rather have Richt as my head coach-a friendly, amicable, media savvy coach over a hot head, jerk.
Due to Richt’s calm consistent winning, I would rather have Mark Richt as my head coach over Nick Saban.
I want it all...
Sorry, I’m the spoiled little kid – I want the NC. I appreciate that we run a clean program and compete at high levels and loved every minute of the 02 and 05 SECC games. But I fall into that camp that thinks while CMR is a fine coach and a good man, I worry that he doesn’t have the killer instinct to win it all. It’s fine to believe that if we just play the games, eventually all will fall into place. Sure, over the course of the next 25 years, he’ll continue to average 10 wins, win an SEC every couple of years and we’ll be a perinnial top 10 program. Would I fire him if that’s all that happens over the next 25 years? Nope. And I do hope that that consistency will be met with all the right things falling into place one year (or many). But at this point, would I trade him for Carroll, Stoops, Tressel or Meyer? Yes. I don’t want to “hope”, I want the Evil Richt of late 2007 that went out and stepped on people’s throats. I want him to make our luck rather than wait for it to fall our way.
Comparing Richt’s and Saban’s win % is all the proof you need – Richt isn’t talked about in near the same light despite a better %. Why? Because Saban won a NC.
No matter how long he’s here, until UGA wins a NC (fair or not), the national perception will be nice guy, good coach of a top 10 program that coughs up the inexplicable loss and can’t win the big one.
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