AJC Poll
by UgaBulldog14 on Jun 8, 2009 8:05 AM EDT
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PrintNot sure how long this has been up on AJC, but I just saw it this morning.
They have a poll going of who the best UGA QB is in the last 10 years, between Shockley, Greene, and Stafford. I had to choose Greene myself. Most success = best. But who knows The Shocker could've done in 4 years.
But the percentages got me.
David Greene - 70.14% | 1997 votes
DJ Shockley - 16.93% | 482 votes
Matthew Stafford - 12.93% | 368 votes
Maybe it's just me, but I expected Stafford to be closer to 50% than 10%. I don't know, thought it was interesting.
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He didn't win a championship and he didn't stay.
I think most rational fans like Stafford for what he accomplished for us and wish him the best, but in the end, he didn’t even sniff an SEC championship, and he didn’t care enough to stick around to try one more time. (And no, I don’t blame the guy. I probably wouldn’t have stayed either.)
I’d probably go with Shockley, both for what he accomplished (SEC championship in his only year as a starter), and for what he could have accomplished (he doesn’t get injured vs. Arkansas, the sky’s the limit).
I hate to play the "what-if" game, but...
As much as I love David Greene, it scares me what DJ Shockley could have accomplished if he’d had four full years to start. I don’t belive the injury against Arkansas prevented something special though. Had he not been injured and somehow Georgia ran the table, 2005 Georgia would have been 2004 Auburn in repeat. Texas and USC started 1/2 and although they switched positions during the season, neither dropped below #2 in any ranking.
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I gotta agree about Shockley
I mean nobody did more with less so to speak. I loved Greene but he probably had one of the one or three best defenses in UGA history backing him up. He never had to win games in a shot out. And while Stafford was a better athlete than Greene and obviously has more potential than Shockley did he also had a few more weapons than Shockley had (Knowshon, A.J. Green, and a well experienced Mo Mass). Man if he had not been hurt in that Arkansas game, he very well might have gotten us to the BCS championship game that year. Regardless, he was amazing leader in 05.
by charlottedawg on Jun 9, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
AuditDawg is right
An undefeated S.E.C. champion Georgia squad would have been shut out of the title game in 2005 the same way an undefeated S.E.C. champion Auburn squad was the year before . . . and the Red and Black still would have been Sugar Bowl-bound to face the same West Virginia team that beat them under the same circumstances under which that Mountaineer victory occurred. (Heck, if anything, Georgia probably would have been even more inattentive in the first 16 minutes if the ’Dawgs had felt like they were snubbed by the B.C.S. on top of everything else.)
Even so, though, it would have been sweet. The undefeated 1946 S.E.C. championship Georgia team and the 1968 S.E.C. championship Georgia team that went undefeated through the regular season and lost in the Sugar Bowl both are squads that hold respected places in Bulldog lore. 2005 was a great season, and it would have been wonderful to have added wins over Florida and Auburn to the mix, irrespective of whether the Red and Black did not receive a B.C.S. championship game berth or finish with a Sugar Bowl win.
Go 'Dawgs!
The thing is
that just as an individual talent, I think Stafford was individually better than Greene and The Shockmaster.
I think I PREFER Shockley over Greene and Stafford, but records show Greene as the QB of the best team, but NFL scouts show Stafford as the better overall.
There’s no denying what Greene did, and he’ll go down with Buck Belue as two of the QB’s on better teams.
It’s just a jumbled argument for me. You can make cases for all of ‘em depending on what you’re looking at. Give Shockley four years and who knows what we would’ve done. But that’s almost a slight to David Greene, who managed to set the record for most career wins as a QB in NCAA football history. But would Stafford had led us to the NC next year if he came back (unlikely)? And Stafford’s defenses weren’t very good compared to Greene’s defenses? I mean…Van Gorder Vs. Martinez says it all, right?
I just didn’t expect any of the guys to run away with the poll. I was thinking around 25-35% for each of them.
This just popped in my head, funny that we say Stafford didn’t win anything, which is true, but it just shows how little we as a fanbase value that mudstomping of Hawaii.
These three men show how far our expectations have risen in terms of QB play, and that is major props to CMR and Bobo.
Agreed with the Stafford comments
I’ll come out and admit he’s been one of my favorite players under the Mark Richt era. Most fans will never fully embrace him because he didn’t live up to the hype bestowed upon his QB class (the one with the Jesus Child and the third stringer at USC). My comments earlier weren’t meant as a slight to David Greene, but I honestly believe that Shockley would have provided a Tebow-like impact to the offense that David Greene couldn’t.
Stafford is always going to be judged by UGA fans for not getting to an SEC title game and that he left early without accomplishing this. These same UGA fans will look at Knowshon (who also never won anything of major importance in his career) in a completely different light than Stafford, which is unfair if you ask me. Those two are forever linked in their careers at UGA, but while Knowshon will go down as one of the most celebrated players, Stafford will go down as the “yeah, he had a cannon arm, but what did we do?” types. Like you mentioned earlier, it’s hard to fairly judge Stafford’s and Knowshon’s careers versus those of Greene and Shockley considering the fact that while Greene and Shockley played under the best defenses in the Richt era, Knowshon and Stafford played under the worst.
Although Stafford wasn’t a member of any championship teams, he was a part of some of the most memorable games I’ve ever attended. His freshman year was my final year in college so I got to experience the ignominy of losing to Vanderbilt at home, but I also got to experience the thrill of blowing out a highly ranked Auburn team on the road as well as the amazing final drive against Georgia Tech. In 2007, I got to go on the road to experience the Alabama game which after he threw the touchdown pass in OT was the quietest road crowd I’d experienced since Auburn in 2002. Frankly, 2007 Georgia football was the most exciting season for me since that breakout year of 2002, which was my freshman year on campus. Stafford beat Florida, beat Auburn three times, beat Alabama, beat South Carolina twice, beat Tennessee, and beat Georgia Tech twice. Not too shabby for a guy that “didn’t win anything”.
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I agree I mean let's be honest post-2006 Stafford never lost us a game . . .
I mean he put insane numbers last year and we still lost three games. Is it Stafford’s fault the D gave up 31 first half points against Bama or that they and the refs gave up about 41 against Florida and 45 to Tech? What else was he suppose to do. Heck I know its coulda, shoulda, woulda but one extra Tennessee loss in 07 or UGA win and we’re BCS game bound in my opinion. That’s no disrespect to LSU, but nobody was hotter than UGA at the end of the season. And although it would be no means have been a blow out, I think we would have beaten them. I’ll be the first to admit fellow dawgfans, I see certain things that Stafford could improve upon (i.e., reduction of the bone headed throw every now and then). But at the same time, I don’t think Stafford’s critics would be nearly as harsh on him had Tebow not won two NCs in the past three years.
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