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How to Taunt a Georgia Fan

Disclosure: I am a UT fan.  1998 was my freshman year at UT.  We played UGA in Athens, but I didn't make it down for the game.  We won that game.  We won all our games that year. 

So, the UT/UGA game in Knoxville in 1999 was my first ever UT/UGA game.  Before I go any further, I should make two points:

1) I am one of the best hecklers I know.  I love talking smack.  I still love talking smack even though I am well beyond the age of it being considered condonable.  So, you can imagine me at age 19. 

2) Rightly or wrongly, I was absolutely and totally confident that UT would win this game.  Georgia hadn't beaten UT since the Reagan administration, and I just considered UGA to be mediocre to UT's elite.  And this actually wasn't unreasonable in 1999.

I talked so much smack before that game to UGA fans.  I don't know why...maybe I was just in the mood.  Of course, I would mention that they hadn't beaten us in their last nine tries.  But I didn't find that to be totally effective in enraging the gentlemen clad in red pants.   

What really really really got under their skin is when I started going into my "Herschel" routine.  I didn't even need to be clever about it.  Just yelling "HERSCHEL" in a particular mocking tone was just as effective as asking a UGA fan "is Herschel coming?"  or sarcastically telling them that the UT defense was really concerned about this Herschel kid. 

The implication in this mean-spirited heckling that I participated in was that the UGA fans were still living in the past and clinging on to memories of Herschel Walker.  It might not work as well today.  But in 1999...good lord I made some UGA fans very very angry.  Some of my best heckling ever.  And, at the time, DEFINITELY the most effective way of taunting a UGA fan.

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That's pretty good . . .

I can imagine that getting a rise out of my brethren. On a related note, wasn’t 1998 the last time Tennessee won an SEC football championship? That was, like, 7 Colquitts ago.

by MaconDawg on Jun 30, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, that is true.

It was also the last time UT won a National Championship. But I’m sure UGA must have done that recently.

by kidbourbon on Jun 30, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Between this FanPost . . .

. . . and this comment thread, I’m really wishing I’d never brought this up in the first damned place.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jun 30, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Getting a rise out of your brethren

Again, full disclosure: I really don’t like Georgia…but I have a reason. I went down to Athens for the 2000 UT/UGA game, which yall won. And I have never ever in my life seen such pure unadulterated viciousness from a fanbase that I saw after that game. I saw female UGA fans spitting on anybody who walked by in Orange. This attitude was not isolated, but, rather, quite ubiquitious. It wasn’t excitement over a win. It was a deep deep hatred for another team that was finally given an opportunity to manifest itself.

I was staying with my best friend from high school, who went to UGA, and I went down to hang-out postgame with him and his cousins who had rode down from West Virginia in their RV. MY BUDDY’S COUSINS STARTED TAUNTING ME. And not in a nice, friendly way. Like, I had to get up and leave. As I walked away from that RV, my opinion of UGA fans was formed for life. So, to the extent you have a saintly vision of UGA fans as cool, calm, collected, and classy in victory and defeat. Wrong. Yall aint any less obnoxious than any other fan base.

One might argue that this experience was a karmic effect from my admittedly mean-spirited taunting in 1999. Except that I don’t believe in Karma, so that can’t be it.

by kidbourbon on Jun 30, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

So, since you were given a hard time for no good reason by people you had not wronged . . .

. . . you think it’s all right to come around here and give a hard time for no good reason to people who have not wronged you?

I freely admit that Georgia fans are the third-most obnoxious in the league, and we’re not far behind No. 2 Florida. (Auburn is No. 1 by a country mile. I hate Auburn.) However, we try to conduct ourselves with a measure of class around here. Nobody at Dawg Sports spit on you or expressed contempt or vindictiveness for you. You say you don’t believe in karma, but you seem to believe that what goes around comes around . . . only we aren’t the ones who sent it around in the first place.

I’m sorry you were mistreated in Athens that day. I really am. I don’t think you have a whole lot of room to criticize, given how nasty you admitted you were being the year before, but that doesn’t justify the behavior to which you were subjected. By the same token, though, it isn’t fair or reasonable for you to lump me in with people who treated you badly just because we cheer for the same team.

I don’t mean to single you out for criticism, kidbourbon, but, frankly, I try to strike a high mark and it ain’t getting me very far. Between Mark Richt’s failure to win a national championship despite competing at the highest level for the last eight years and my apparent inability to raise the tenor of conversation in the blogosphere despite my best efforts, I’m increasingly convinced that the old adage is true: nice guys really do finish last.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jun 30, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr King, Esquire

Do you really intend to leave out LSU fans in your most-obnoxious list? Batteries and beer raining down on visitors at a night game. Such genteel behavior.

I have to give some credit to UGA fans. My wife & I rode one of the courtesy buses to the game in Athens a few years back, and we were the only people wearing orange. People spoke kindly to us and we were gracious in return. You were the picture of Southern hospitality.

[Incidentally, it was a good deal more fun to ride the bus back. We were gracious on the return trip. That was the year the floodgates opened in the second half and UT won by a comfortable margin. (Can anyone help me remember the year and the score?)]

But there’s no way UGA fans belong in the top 3 for obnoxiousness. LSU, Florida and Auburn (when they are good) have you beat by a considerable margin.

by memphispete on Jun 30, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was 51-33 in 2006

Most uncomfortable I’ve ever been with a ten-point halftime lead.

I’ve generally found the L.S.U. faithful to be impassioned without being overly obnoxious. They had a solid uptick of arrogance in the wake of the 2003 national championship, which was quickly silenced by their 45-16 loss between the hedges in 2004 and Nick Saban’s subsequent departure, but, generally, L.S.U. fans are like Alabama and Tennessee fans: they have enough history and tradition not to need to be obnoxious.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jun 30, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you didn't misunderstand my tone

I didn’t come here to give anybody a hard time or to imply that anyone on this board is the type that would spit. I initially posted just because I like the story. Yes, it is at UGA’s expense..but it just reminds me of my buddy and walking to the game — slightly intoxicated — with few cares in the world.

My second post was just a rant in response to a poster’s disbelief that someone got a rise out of a UGA fan. It was not meant to convey that UGA fans are bad people. Just that, as fans, they are just like everybody else.

I like your blog, Kyle, or I wouldn’t even be here.

by kidbourbon on Jun 30, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

And as a result of this comment thread

Both of those stories are now codified. Which is cool. I never would have written that down otherwise. And I feel a little better now.

Though I still have not spoken to the harshest of the taunting-cousins.

by kidbourbon on Jun 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I appreciate that, kidbourbon

Discussions like this one just remind me of the uselessness (at best) and counterproductivity (most often) of romantic naivete in the real world.

It’s nice to think that, if people just sit down with one another and talk to one another as human beings, it will dispel preconceptions and teach them to appreciate one another. That’s a nice notion in international, ideological, racial, religious, political, and tribal conflicts, as well as in the much less important matter of sports loyalties.

The problem is that it seldom works out that way in reality. Typically, the more we get to know the folks we disagree with and dislike, the more aware we become of why we can’t stand each other and how we can attack one another. Our prejudices only rarely give way to the truths that would undermine those preconceived notions; we see only what we want to see.

Familiarity breeds contempt. That is a frustrating fact in any number of arenas, personal and professional, and it is why so much well-intended human interaction is so futile. Sports are, in many respects, a microcosm of the rest of life, and this sort of thing just reminds me how poorly that reflects on sports and on the rest of life.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jun 30, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Taunting is in the eye of the beholder.

A slight good-natured jab by a victor’s fan after a disappointing loss usually has a much more negative effect than was intended. A remark that will be remembered by the taunter (if remembered at all) as a simple, off-the-cuff comment will be stockpiled by the tauntee as evidence of what a-holes those guys are.

Back in 2006, I was hanging out in Athens with a Tech fan and my best friend (a Georgia fan) after the Tech game. That was the year GTU (see what I did there?) was supposed to win. Calvin Johnson and all that. Anyway, the Tech fan said that he was amazed to see Georgia fans cheering just to see a UGA first down. The Georgia fan said, “Yeah, and there were a lot of them.” The Tech fan found that to be egregiously tasteless and out-of-bounds taunting. Honestly, it seemed to me like an even trade of mild jab for mild jab. Losing magnifies everything. Then again, the Trade School produces sore losers and graceless winners.

by NCT on Jun 30, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that's what's amazed me the most . . .

. . . about my recent tiffs with Tennessee fans over Lane Kiffin, taunting, fan interaction, and (may the Lord have mercy on their souls) Uga.

As annual rivals go, Volunteer fans are far and away my favorite opposing fan base with which to interact. I’ve been to Sanford Stadium on a lot of Saturdays to see the Vols whip the ‘Dawgs and I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of unpleasant face-to-face interactions I’ve had with the Tennessee faithful. They have a great tradition; they don’t need to be nasty, and, as a rule, they aren’t.

That’s why the vehemence of the venom directed at us by Tennessee fans in recent weeks has been so stunning. I didn’t hate them when they had a nine-game winning streak on us; why the devil do they hate us so much?

They’re ripping on our dog over there, for crying out loud. Dude, that’s just low.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jun 30, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of Tennessee fans

Maybe the change is a matter of its not having taken very long for the style of the newly hired leadership up there to trickle down, eroding the solid tradition that always kept them on higher ground. That disturbance in Knoxville National Cemetery might be a certain General turning over in his grave.

by NCT on Jun 30, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is cyclical

Obviously, as fans of an SEC school, we like or dislike other SEC schools more than others. And we talk amongst each about these things. I will say this: If you talk with a guy five to ten years older than me, he will probably have no problem with the dawgs at all. But I definitely feel like the people my age and thereabouts left UT with a bit of a hatred for UGA. Yall had our number. And then there was that whole unnecessary hobnail boot thing.

Plus, we went to school, at least in part, during the Ron Zook era, when Florida was a team you felt sorry for. Things have changed. Florida enjoys beating Tennessee by about 90 every year and Urban Meyer is so smug they actually devoted an entire South Park episode to him. At time T == now, I hate Florida worse than UGA. But during college, and for the couple years after when the bitter taste of bad experiences lingered, I put UGA at the top of the list.

NCT: When the guy is continually requesting that you go take out his trash. And he does it over and over to the point where you can no longer laugh it off, it is not in the eye of the beholder. It is an invitation to either punch me in the face (and then fight all your best friend’s cousins) or walk away from my RV. I walked away from the RV.

Kyle: Unrelated, but I have to give credit where credit is due. Your prose flows.

by kidbourbon on Jun 30, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would disagree.....

about UT fans. I lived up there in that God forsaken state for 7 years before I escaped and let me tell you that the UT fans are just as obnoxious and arrogant as Florida fans are. I hate Tennessee like you hate Auburn Kyle!!

by RocketDawg on Jun 30, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Tennessee

Obnoxious in an idiotic way. Easily the worst, not obnoxious, display of fans acting comes from the tennesse vs airforce game a few years back where many stupid redneck vol fans were literally going up to air force peoples faces and yelling “F*** AIRFORCE!!”, “F—- you airforce!” Yes, I’m not making that up. Personally attacking family members of service men and those who fight for our country. Made me sick. I think that even surpasses LSU fans pouring urine onto Miss St people. Embarassing for tennessee fans to say the least. As much as I hate Florida fans, I think vols fans are the only ones that would go that route.

by hotdawgin on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Individual experiences form perceptions

Every school in the SEC (probably even Vandy) has some obnoxious fans. It is luck of the draw as to whether or not you personally come into contact with these individuals. If you do, then you think that the entire fan base is obnoxious which just isn’t the case.

Most SEC fans are generally hospitable to their opponents and I hope that all of us remember that when an opponent’s fans come to cheer on their team at road games, they should be treated as guests (off the field only of course). We are all ambassadors for our alma mater or school we have elected to support and should act as such. Even when your team loses – as tough as it is to swallow a home loss – you need to remember to show sportsmanship in defeat as well as victory.

I’ve had some great road trips to 8 of the 12 SEC schools (UK will join that list this coming fall) and have positive memories from each of them. I recall Ole Miss fans in the Grove inviting us to a pre-game toast and bite at their tailgate, same at Auburn in the Amphitheatre, Athens in the apartments across from the place formerly known as O’Mally’s, Knox-vegas at Calhoun’s on the River, Columbia at the Fairgrounds and in a Cock-a-boose, etc. LSU fans even tossed us a few congratulatory beers after a Zook- led team inexplicably upset them in Baton Rouge for their only loss in a national championship year.

There will always be a few jackasses dressed in your school colors on gameday – and if you see a fellow fan unnecessarily giving an opposing fan a hard time, feel free to step in and represent your team with class. There’s nothing in the world like SEC football – and it’s the passion of the fans that make it so.

by skigator93 on Jul 1, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

A decent heckler I wouldn’t call you a pro though!
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by wsmithe on Jul 6, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

A decent heckler!

A decent heckler I wouldn’t call you a pro though!
Come find Notre Dame Football Rentals at www.GamedayHousing.com!

by wsmithe on Jul 6, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

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