Kyle Gets Contrary: Despite the Name of the Building, the Georgia Bulldogs Do Not Belong in the Georgia Dome
We recently debuted a new segment here at Dawg Sports called "Kyle Gets Contrary," and, without being overly contentious, I have to say that there is more than adequate grist for future postings in this series, starting with this one.
It is possible, however unlikely, that the Bulldogs will play a game in the Georgia Dome next year against the U.C.L.A. team that was jilted by Auburn on its first attempt to line up a neutral site date in Atlanta. For this to happen, Colorado would have to let Georgia out of its scheduled 2010 trip to Boulder.
While I am, in principle, in favor of playing the Bruins, I am against this move, for two main reasons:
1. I don’t want the 2010 Colorado game to be moved or cancelled. I’m proud of the way Damon Evans has restored Georgia’s tradition of national scheduling. I’m proud of the game the ‘Dawgs played at Arizona State and I’m looking forward to the games they’ll be playing at Oklahoma State, at Colorado, at Oregon, and at Louisville (well, O.K., maybe not so much at Louisville anymore, but still . . .) in the near future. I don’t want to tinker with that. It smacks of a return to the days when we would only play non-conference teams between the hedges. It also feels too much like what Tulane did to us in 2002. We scheduled the game; we should play the game.
2. We have nothing to gain from playing a regular-season game at the Georgia Dome. We already play one neutral site game every year. Scheduling another one makes no sense. That is trebly true of arranging a game in Atlanta. We reap recruiting benefits from going to Jacksonville to face Florida. We don’t need any more of a toehold in Atlanta than we already have and any benefit to be derived from teeing it up in the Dome may be gotten from S.E.C. championship games and Chick-fil-A Bowl appearances. Finally, I’m no math whiz, but it doesn’t seem to make much sense to give up having our fans get all but around 10,000 tickets in our 92,746-seat facility in exchange for having our fans get 50 per cent of the tickets in a 71,250-seat facility. Besides, who wants to go to downtown Atlanta for a regular-season college football game? Let the Tech fans do that.
You may put me resolutely in the "no" column on this one. I’d be more than happy to see the Bulldogs and the Bruins play once in the Rose Bowl and once in Sanford Stadium, but I see no point to meeting them in Atlanta for any purpose other than picking them up at the airport as a show of Southern hospitality before hosting them between the hedges.
Go ‘Dawgs!
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I agree on both counts
I can think of two additional reasons to still make the trip to Boulder:
1) We agreed to do it, and one should always be as good as his word (never mind the contract we have)
2) If the Denver Broncos were to have a home game that weekend, too, you might end up being able to watch the Dawgs on Saturday and Knowshon Rockwell Moreno on Sunday. (Not to mention the fact that Denver is famous for its raucous home crowds, and the new Mile High Stadium is pretty cool, too.)
by vineyarddawg on Apr 29, 2009 7:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A couple of observations...
1. I agree that a neutral site game in ATL makes no sense. I would imagine that any team interested in playing us would realize the logical folly of playing us at a “neutral site” 75 miles from our campus (who would ever do something that stupid….oh yeah…). That probably much rather schedule a home and home so that one of those years they have a decided home-field advantage.
2. That being said, I am glad that Richt realizes ATL is under siege. TN has always tried to raid ATL, but what Saban is attempting to do now is ridiculous. The 90’s proved UGA cannot win at the level we want if we cannot lock up Atlanta—period. If Richt thinks that playing a game in the Dome each year will be a means to that end, I would say that we ARE going to see it within the next 5 years or so.
3. A parallel can be drawn here between what Alabama is doing and what we do in Jax. Alabama is playing a game in ATL every year to enhance its recruiting presence….but, they are not playing a game there that will have ANY impact whatsoever on their chances of winning the SEC, which is the biggest recruiting accelerator a program can have. UGA was freakishly lucky to win the SEC twice when losing to FL. FL has never won the SEC after losing to UGA. UGA will NOT win the SEC again losing to UF. Consider this: if Saban were our coach, how long do you think HE would go along with playing UF in Jax every year? To win big, coaches have to do what’s in the best interest of the program, regardless if other fanbases(or even your own) think you’re a jerk; I think that after 8 years, Richt is starting to realize that.
by UgaMatt on Apr 29, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me, too.
For me, the walk to the North Avenue MARTA station is much easier than the drive to Athens, but a comparison of the destinations is laughable. From a national perspective, I seriously doubt it would be viewed as a neutral site game. It would be like playing Bama in Birmingham: merely an alternative home venue.
by NCT on Apr 29, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stop. Just stop. . .
You had me at “Besides, who wants to go to downtown Atlanta for a regular-season college football game? Let the Tech fans do that.”
And I have to say, after our trip out to play Arizona State was such a rousing success in terms of attendance and atmosphere, I’d think Damon Evans and company would be more likely to take the show on the road, not less.
I agree that we need to continue to schedule nationally, but as you note, that rings hollow if we refuse to also travel nationally. And I want us to keep our commitments. Not because I think anyone outside of Colorado would notice or care, but because I just think that’s the right thing to do, and what comes around goes around.
by MaconDawg on Apr 29, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tech "fans"
Judging by the attendance at the average Tech game, they don’t want to go to downtown Atlanta for a regular-season college football game either. Zing!!
by UgaMatt on Apr 29, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Downtown Atlanta
OMG…so awful. I’m afraid! Someone save me! I couldn’t watch a football game in the middle of a big city!
by rbubp on Apr 29, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should keep our word...
….and there’s something just a little sleazy about taking our home game in a series first, then trying to back out of the return engagement. Our AD is better than that, I can’t see our team vacating the trip to Boulder. As for playing in the Dome, there are obviously financial considerations, but I would not mind seeing us do it every 4-5 years or so. Maybe that could replace the quadrennial pain-in-the-neck thing with the dirty birds from Statesboro (we’d be keeping the money in the State, folks!!). But CMR said that although prospects for this in2010 were dim at best, he also said that UGA “has an opponent in mind that we think people would be excited about.” I don’t think UCLA quite meets that criterion. If he means Southern Cal, Texas, or Oklahoma, then Yes.
by Vindexdawg on Apr 29, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree
While I don’t even like playing lower division schools, I think playing Ga Southern in the Dome is a pretty good idea. The only problem is that sometimes those are the games that UGA sets up special promotional events such as 4-H day, HS band day or things like that.
by fotodog on Apr 30, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he means USC, UT, or OU
I would to play a team like this in the regular season. For naysayers that think it would destroy our season: if we can’t beat them within the first 4 games, we don’t deserve to play at that level in our final game.
by knowshon loves legos on May 1, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Downtown Atlanta
I agree that Athens is a much better place to tailgate than around the Georgia Dome, but as a resident, I can do without the Atlanta hate. I actually like Grant Field’s setting.
by NCT on Apr 29, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just to be clear on Atlanta, rbubp and NCT:
It’s not the venue, it’s the getting there. Athens game day traffic and parking are perfectly manageable if you plan ahead and know what you’re doing. Getting to the Dome is a pain under the best of circumstances, and I have seldom been downtown under the best of circumstances.
It’s the same thing with going to a Braves game. Once you’re in your seats, it’s a great experience. Getting from Point A to Point B, though, is a massive hassle, and, unlike making the trip to Athens, you don’t get the happy fringe benefit of getting to go to Athens.
It’s worth it for an S.E.C. championship game. Otherwise, it’s not.
I 100 per cent agree with everyone who’s said we made a commitment, and, for that reason alone, we should keep it. As Maurice Minnifield said to Dr. Joel Fleischmann in the pilot episode of “Northern Exposure”: “You signed a contract, but, much more important than that, you gave your word.” I tried to convey that point, but I didn’t do so as well as several commenters did. Thank you for making an important point better than I made it.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Apr 29, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Access to Atlanta
We need better passenger rail service in this country. When I lived in Columbus, I’d have loved to ride the train to Atlanta for a Braves game. Hell, I’d love to ride the train to Athens for a Georgia game.
by NCT on Apr 29, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're worknig on this
They’ve already built the Train Station in Athens. It went up while I was in school and now I believe it is complete, fully functional, and not being used whatsoever. The definitely want it to go into ATL, which would be HUGE for ATL residents. Imagine… $10 bucks to go from ATL to Athens, you can get as blotto as you like because someone else is doing the driving, and you get to enjoy Blind Pig (okay, maybe thats just me)
by knowshon loves legos on May 1, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that’s the “brain train” that would go from Athens, by Emory, to Tech, then on south to Morehouse/Spellman. I hope it gets going.
by NCT on May 1, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about playing in the Dome once...
… as a favor to the Panthers of Georgia State? Once they get their program going, throw them a bone and play the game in the Dome in 2011 or 2012. Yeah, they’re a 1-AA team, but if they’re going to be playing their home games in the Dome, they’re going to get 9,000 – 10,000 a game at best. Help them out, play a game at the Dome (UGA could be the away team and everything), which would easily sell out. Maybe even work out a deal where we share the receipts from the gate. Even 50% of the gate from that game would be more for GSU than the entire gate from a normal home game.
There, problem solved. Right?
by vineyarddawg on Apr 29, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have no desire whatsoever to do the Georgia State Panthers any favors
It’s not that I have anything against Georgia State generally, either as an educational institution or as an overall athletics program; I bear neither any ill will.
However, the head coach of the Georgia State Panthers football team is Bill Curry, that condescending sanctimonious prisspot who was the worst head football coach I ever saw coach in person (and I saw Ray Goff coach in person), whose hatred of Georgia remained so intense that he refused to wear a red tie on ESPN telecasts, who famously threatened to “bring the cheathers to their knees!” while remaining curiously silent when his alma mater was punished by the N.C.A.A. for fielding multiple academically ineligible athletes in several sports over a period of at least seven years, and who still genuflects at the altar of Bobby Dodd even more than Furman Bisher, if such a thing is possible.
Bill Curry can go rot and no citizen of Bulldog Nation should do anything to help him in any way, shape, form, or fashion.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Apr 29, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AMEN, Kyle....
If GA Southern has been our cross to bear this decade, let GSU and their jackass HC be the Gnats’.
by Vindexdawg on Apr 29, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Precisely, Vindexdawg
I’d like nothing better than for Georgia State to be the Division I-AA albatross around Georgia Tech’s neck.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Apr 29, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curry
All Tech fans who have expressed an opinion on Curry in my presence hate him, too. Both “sides” have plenty of reason to revile him. I reckon Auburn fans have fond memories of him, though.
by NCT on Apr 29, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Survey says
You can add Bama fans to that list also.
by fotodog on Apr 30, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah . . .
. . . I think the brick through the window was a pretty good indication of that.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Apr 30, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expected pretty much this reply...
… I just wanted to stir the puddin’ a little. :-)
By the way, Kyle, I think you have a misspelling in your reply. “Prisspot” has entirely too many r’s if you’re trying to describe Bill Curry (if you catch my drift).
I’m eagerly awaiting the day when Georgia State upsets the Golden Tornado in the Dome, which I feel confident will happen at some point. (There’s a great weather reference in there, what with the Tornado in the Dome and all, but I can’t seem to come up with it right now. Oh well, we have a couple of years to figure it out.)
by vineyarddawg on Apr 29, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Louisville has kind of dropped off the map in a major way
By the time we play them they will have a new coach and even less talent.
BUT i live here in L’viile now and i know i can walk up there on Gameday and grab a decent ticket for cheap, so i’m SO happy they are coming here! It will be awesome! By that time i think Murray or Z.Mett will be QB Marlon Brown will be teh awesome.
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
by Southern Dawg on Apr 29, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is absolutely NOTHING to gain by going to
Atlanta for a game that could be in Sanford
Also, playing a West Coast team there would just make them want us to at their own house on the West Coast
Why would we do a away and neutral series?
by AppleCub on Apr 29, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just sayin'...
Those who are saying there’s nothing to gain, are you considering the play in Atlanta to get them recruits strategy of one Nick Satan? Wouldn’t we do well to do the same to stave off the starving armpits of the Apocalyptic One?
by rbubp on Apr 30, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We play a home game in Atlanta every other year
At least, judging by the aerial shots of Grant Field during a Georgia-Georgia Tech game, we do.
In all seriousness, though, I’m sure the reason you have articulated explains why Mark Richt would consider this. If nothing else, Georgia playing an opener in the Dome would prevent any other team in the league from doing so that year.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Apr 30, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please come to Boulder
You have some payback waiting for you. Need I remind you of the lucky win in 2006, over the worst Buffs team ever assembled? CU is going to be an absolute beast in 2010. Bring UGA the dog, too, we’ll supply the icepack.

by BuffsFan99 on May 1, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In spite of the negative publicity this received...
… I think it was one of the coolest things ever done by a visiting team. It was tasteful (unlike most “special” things done by visiting teams), exciting, and allowed us to share in another school’s tradition for a day.
I actually got to the stadium extra early just to take tons of pictures of Ralphie, and had a great time watching all of the setup, runout, and breakdown. (I also noted with amusement the attention the cowboys were getting from the women in the band’s auxiliaries. I’m not sure they were even aware of the cowboys’ charge that was sitting inches away on the field.)
by vineyarddawg on May 1, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...with bells on
…be careful for what you wish, as we’ll all be there.
I’m only hoping your AD isn’t a * like Oklahoma State’s.
I’ve already made reservations at St. Julien and RMNP. I’m making a week of it.
HBTD
by Gen. Stoopnagle on May 5, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On transnational venues
Not sure if you wanted to use the Rose Bowl as a neutral site or just didn’t know, but USC’s home games are in the Coliseum. While not as widely commented on outside of SoCal, the stadium is actually much much nicer (despite being in a scarier neighborhood), mostly because it is a lot newer and used to house the Raiders. Take it from someone who has been there.
I definitely agree we should honor the commitment to play Colorado, it’ll give the SEC one more victory over the Big XII in the ever present conference wars debate.
Austin is awesome.
I think playing at Michigan would be a great game also
by Nola Dawg on May 1, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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